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Extreme
21-04-2008, 08:22 AM
Just about to order my X5 and was wondering what spur gear to use as i run a checkpoint 10x2, having read various posts it seems people are using the larger spurs for getting better gearing?:confused:

any advice greatly appreciated :thumbsup:

thanks

Paul_Sinclair
21-04-2008, 09:17 AM
The larger spur gears were really introduced for brushless motors, which just run better with really low ratios (11:1, 12:1 kind of ratios). The stock spur in the kit is the 104, and that should be a great starting point with a 10 turn motor. Here in the US I'd recommend a 17 tooth pinion with a 10 turn, but due to the different tires and surfaces (assuming you're in the UK) I'd really recommend whatever the other guys say.

bigred5765
21-04-2008, 09:59 AM
hi there
on a std spur and a 10 wind brushed i would say around 16-18 depending on track and conditions

Big E
21-04-2008, 10:35 AM
Think I only ever ran brushed once in the car but I reckon the 18 tooth for the 10.

E.

Extreme
21-04-2008, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the advice guys:thumbsup:

have ordered 106/108 spur gears as well for the car what pinion/ spur gear is going to be the best combination on the 10x2?:confused:


will be running the car at Eden Park this sunday

cheers

bigred5765
21-04-2008, 11:05 AM
around the same as mentioned may be up one 19 not much more

Big E
21-04-2008, 11:29 AM
Start with 18/104.

I should be there SUnday if you have any problems just ask!!

Extreme
21-04-2008, 11:43 AM
obviously i have the kit spur, and have ordered a 106 and 108 spur as well,
which one would be best to use with the 10x2 at eden park Ellis?

Also what oil/ pistons?

thanks:thumbsup:

Big E
21-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Try the kit 104 to start with, really not to sure with brushed to be honest.

Shock wise, front: 40wt orange piston green spring

Rear: 30wt blue piston white spring or pink if you can't make a rear roll bar.

Chrislong
21-04-2008, 02:29 PM
I used to use 18/104 on a Checkpoint 10x2.

What I suggest you do is try 18/106 as a starting point, and if you want more punch go to the 108, if you want more top-end, go to a 104. Be aware that changing 2 teeth on the spur is going to effect the ratio by less than 2% so you might not notice much effect, whereas changing by 1 tooth on the pinion will effect the ratio by over 5%.

dancoog
21-04-2008, 02:59 PM
I was running 18 or 19 -104 with a brussed 10 turn Reedy motor at Eden Park.

Just check the heat on the motor after your run. to be honest I didn't notice much of a difference from one tooth.

I'm making the jump to a 10.5 brushless this weekend though just to slow myself down.:thumbsup:

My plan for the regional is to keep it on 4 weels and learn to drive again.;)

Extreme
21-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Cheers for all the advice:thumbsup:
cant wait to get the kit and start building it now!!!

Extreme
22-04-2008, 06:38 AM
Ok any ideas where i get the white rear springs from as Ellis suggested????

dancoog
22-04-2008, 06:58 AM
Got mine fron DC racing on Thursday, very quick turn around..:thumbsup:

Keep in mind that his suggestion was to use white springs if you can make up a swaybar.

If not you may want to go to a slightly harder spring like pink.

Extreme
22-04-2008, 09:10 AM
Cheers,
in the process of making up a sway bar, do you know what strength? have various ones in different thicknessess,if not will make a new one up:thumbsup:
ive already made one for the x6 but havent really had cause to try it yet!

thanks

dancoog
22-04-2008, 10:33 AM
Ellis is your best info on this.. but while you're at it will you make one up for me as well??
:blush:

bigred5765
22-04-2008, 11:14 AM
i have 3 which we change to suit track conditions
a 0.8mm
1mm
1.2mm

Big E
22-04-2008, 11:28 AM
I run either a 1.2mm or 1.6mm bar.

Either will do though to start with. And even without it the car is not terrible with a white rear spring but it is better with it.

E.

B&H Racing
23-04-2008, 09:25 PM
Just bought a Sway Bar Kit for my X5 (TLA-4257 for a XXX4)

The sway bars themselves do not fit the X5.

Does anyone know where I can get the wire to make my own ?

Cheers

B&H Racing
24-04-2008, 06:56 AM
I guess the Trinity Sway Bar set for the XX4 is the one everybody uses ?

I guess it would be a direct fit.

bigred5765
24-04-2008, 10:18 AM
i dont think any of the sway bars are wide enough you need piano wire available from any good model shop or hobby store

Paul_Sinclair
24-04-2008, 02:33 PM
The XXX4 sway bar kit has everything you need in the way of mounts and hardware, but yeah the bars won't fit at all. For the X - 5, a XX4 swaybar kit would work (I know they used to have one, don't know if its available any more) but most of us just make our own out of piano wire. Start with a .055 inch (1.4mm) wire, and just bend it as shown in the manual in the assembly of the rear suspension: pdf file found here: http://www.4wdrc.com/pdfs/Manual-Page35.pdf

B&H Racing
24-04-2008, 05:18 PM
Just got some piano wire.
I admit it was touch and go if I could afford it, it was a whole 35p :woot:

Thanks guys