Setups

[jimmy]

Sticky Thread for posting your SETUPS only.

please use the other thread for setup discussion! :)

Thank you!

[Arn0]

Team Associated RC10 B4.1 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B4.1.html)
Team Associated RC10 B4 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B4.html)
Team Associated RC10B44.1 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B44.1.html)
Team Associated RC10B44 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B44.html)
Team Associated RC10T4.1 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10T4.1.htm)
Team Associated RC10T4 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10T4.htm)

Team Associated SC10 (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedSC10.html)

If someone interested by 1:12th: Team Associated RC12R5 (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/asso/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC12R5.html)
Team Associated RC12L4 (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/asso/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC12L4.htm)

Hope that is a raisonable starting point! :confused:

[Col]

I realise that this is not a set-up as such, but this website (http://users.pandora.be/elvo/) has some incredibly usefull information for all makes of car (not just AE) and explains things quite clearly if you use the "buggy set-up guide" on the left of the page :)

[PaulRotheram]

two set ups of mine.. mi site will have all my setups as i race.

http://paulrotheram.doughtyuk.net/setups/10-10-06.jpg
http://paulrotheram.doughtyuk.net/setups/15-10-06.jpg

[Chris Doughty]

'my first setup' lol

CML Raceway in the wet/damp
http://www.doughtyuk.net/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=37290

[FifteenthNeo]

Well last night was my local indoor club racing night where I run my B4. Its a small twisty carpet track that has one straight usually of 40-50ft. Its usally good racing and my buggy goes ok. But last night it just didnt want to turn in at all under power,early mid corner. To the point where I was have to try and hook the break and skid it round the tight corners.

Does anyone have any setups/tips/ideas infact anything :eh?: for a small, tight indoor track on carpet. Jump wise there are only two small ramps which are no problem.

Thanks:(

[Richard Lowe]

How much antisquat and what wheelbase are you running? In those situations I'd either increase the antisquat or make the wheelbase longer.

[PaulRotheram]

few suggestions-

increase wheelbase
25 degree caster blocks
harder rear spring - this makes a huge difference, take it easy as the rear end will want to pivot more.
higher antisquat

[FifteenthNeo]

Richard, Paul, Jimmy thanks for the reply.
My setup is pretty much as follows to my knowledge:o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/neo010969/Setup.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/neo010969/Setup.jpg)

[Richard Lowe]

The stagger ribs wont be helping unless you're on really, really high grip carpet.

[FifteenthNeo]

I did use some new mini pins front and rear last week and found the car to be really aggressive in the handling. Oh, is such a pain when you aint got a bl:wtf::wtf:dy clue lol.

[tc2k]

Thought Id post mine. May aswell

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/thecrow2k/teesside.jpg

[mattym0310]

what setup did people use at the york indoor finals as i wna set mine up for york and have lost my setup sheet, cheers

[Thomas P]

My First ever run with this car, was2 days ago, and finaly i have found my place..

Setup Green-Hill

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/AE%20b4%20setup/setupb4greenhill.png

[Richard Lowe]

Brown springs on the rear :confused:

[Lee]

Just built my B4;)

I am hoping to give it a run around bury on sunday, does anyone have a good starting setup where i can work from.

Cheers

Lee

[Lee]

How do you achieve the super short wheelbase on the b4?

I have seen it mentioned but dont know how to get it

Thankyou

B4 Virgin:D

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Come and see me tomorrow and I will show you.:)

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Can someone post a good starting setup for this weekend at stotfold thankyou:) (B4)

[ashleyb4]

Here is my grass setup for b4 spent a while changing a few things and finally ended up with this.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9770/dialledb4setupst6.gif (http://imageshack.us)


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[Southwell]

Stick to a standard type of setup, Ash's one is nowhere near to what most people run, it's probably going to be more twichy and difficult to drive than the normal one.

[ashleyb4]

How dare you its not twitchy at all i hate twitchy cars i like a smooth car.

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[Southwell]

25 deg blocks make it twichy, along with short wheelbase, etc etc. Plus isn't Bury astro not grass?
Im not trying to be harsh but if it was that good of a setup everyone would have something like it? I just said to keep the setup more standard than trying something completely different.

[ashleyb4]

because i move front shocks in it know where near what everyone else runs.

A

[Southwell]

Axel height, rear hub links, shock tower ball stud height, limiter in front shocks, caster blocks, rear antisquat, although i tried 0 and liked it.

[ashleyb4]

I started with yardys setup that he gave me then all ive done is changed the front shock oil to 35 from 30 and changed front shock possition as i was suffering from understeer.

[Thomas P]

My B4 setup for our track

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e328/lasseludvig/DSC00867.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/AE%20b4%20setup/setupb4greenhillnya.png

[ashleyb4]

Stick to a standard type of setup, Ash's one is nowhere near to what most people run, it's probably going to be more twichy and difficult to drive than the normal one.

I see what you mean now god i was being dumb i wasnt replying to te bury setup question i was just being random and posting up my grass setup.

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[Lowie]

hey guys, wouldn't it be a good idea to also mention what kind of track these setups are for.
I mean, often the name of the track is mentioned buht since I am from Belgium, it is very difficult for me to discover what kind of track it is about: mud, sand, grass ...
It's not always mentioned on the bottom of the setup-sheet.

Or maybe if possible, just posting a resume of the different tracks, with some pics and track-description? That would be awsome!

[Arn0]

hey guys, wouldn't it be a good idea to also mention what kind of track these setups are for.
I mean, often the name of the track is mentioned buht since I am from Belgium, it is very difficult for me to discover what kind of track it is about: mud, sand, grass ...
It's not always mentioned on the bottom of the setup-sheet.

Or maybe if possible, just posting a resume of the different tracks, with some pics and track-description? That would be awsome!
Check this post, B4 link is pretty detailed!
Hope that help.

[Lowie]

Check this post, B4 link is pretty detailed!
Hope that help.

I'm sorry. Maybe it is my lack of English but I do not understand in "B4 link is pretty detailed" what you mean by "B4 link".

Besides, most of the setup-sheet-links do not function anymore. I have tried them all, searching for a grass-setup sheet for wet and dry conditions. I could only find a dry condition-setup.
Did I overlook something in this thread?

[ashleyb4]

Most of the time we change very little if anything on the b4 in the wet just the tyres we change from schumacher yellow mini spikes to Ballisitic green spikes on wet grass.

A

[Arn0]

I'm sorry. Maybe it is my lack of English but I do not understand in "B4 link is pretty detailed" what you mean by "B4 link".

Besides, most of the setup-sheet-links do not function anymore. I have tried them all, searching for a grass-setup sheet for wet and dry conditions. I could only find a dry condition-setup.
Did I overlook something in this thread?
I means that RC10B4 (http://www.petitrc.com/view_news.php?id=4533)

I did try to download several setups in the above link and being successful with each!

[delanobe]

Hi Low_E,

Preparing for the BNK in VLijmen?? ;)

Ciao

[KyoshoK]

can someone post me a universal starting setup for loose dusty track?

is there something like a tebo setup?

thanks

[AndyM]

what is the magic setn up??

im runing at York, indoors, so some of you may have it as the Indoor finals set up early this year.

thanks guys:D

[ben]

Andy have a go with my car on saturday night at york and see what you think. I think my setup is pretty much DIALED.

[Mike Hudson]

You should try out the B4 im using on saturday ben its so much more dialed! ;)

[AndyM]

still doesn't answer my question guys,

can someone please post the set up on here.
thanks,

(i'll take you up on that offer ben, thanks)

[ben]

its ok dude.

To gove you an idea its

front:

40wt
#2 piston
Blue spring

Middle hole at top
inside at bottom

Rear :

30wt
#1 piston
silver spring
middle hole at top
inside at bottom

1degree of antisquat

Errr thats all i can remember

hope this helps

lil ben

[ashleyb4]

why the hell are you runnign 40wt oil ben.

I run the same as ben but with 30wt in the front. well i used to before i moved to this dialled beast.

A

[PaulRotheram]

to stiffen up the front end ashley.. and to make it easier to drive.. or give it less roll.. or make it less reponsive, or even more responsive on some occasions, multiple answers!

[ben]

Errr ashley cos it works . simple really hehe. I should of said that is wot i run indoors. Outdoors i go to 35 in the front. And if im strugglin for some front end grip i just go down to silver springs on the front. Spose everyone is different.

[ashleyb4]

Yea i run 35 outdoors but 40 indoors that seems bit stiff to me personally i dont like 35 indoors. But in my cr i run 35 indoors and i really like it its personal prefferance though. Give 30wt a go though it is good.

A

[ben]

naahhhh "if it aint broke dont fix it"

[ian20thatsme]

hi anyone got any setups for bj4 we could u pm me plz:)?

[Arn0]

hi anyone got any setups for bj4 we could u pm me plz:)?
No need of PM, check this topic (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555), the second post give a link with a wide range of setups.

[Kecky]

Anybody got a good B4 FT base setup for The Supercup this Sunday :)

[Lee]

Ill get Lil bens, his has been ace over the winter;)

[Lee]

Kecky, see page 2 from ben, ill find out what wheelbase and camber links he is running etc

[Kecky]

Your a decent lad, no matter what everybody else says :thumbsup:

[Kecky]

That must be on the page i'm not aloud to look at from the office due to the use of a naughty word.....:o......see below.....


(The page you requested has been blocked because it contains a banned word.) :woot:

I'll have to have a look when iget home tonight :thumbsup:

[Lee]

Can you see this one now?


Cock:lol:

[Kecky]

Farm yard animals must be acceptable :woot:

[Lee]

outside hole on the U plate middle hole on hub, short wheelbase, 0 antisquat

There you go, :thumbsup:

[Kecky]

Cheers cheeky chops :thumbsup:

[Arn0]

I added a link for B44 setups on post #2 of this thread (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11094&postcount=2)

Hope that can help, there is some setups for Blue Groove, Clay, Soft Dirt and Carpet but that limited. Maybe the BJ4WE setups (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5491&postcount=2) can be useful!!

Let submit setup to increase the knowledge if different from the BJ4WE.

[Kecky]

Anybody got a B4FT Set-up for Southports outdoor track please.

[Lee]

Here you go ryan, its from a while ago but looks about right.

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/dave_bailey_southport_03_07_2003.jpg

[c0sie]

Any of the top 2WD lads able to post up their B4 setups from the Indoor Finals please?

[jimmy]

I have those setups I believe, so I will scan them at work and post them as part of my little nif report

[Lee]

I think jimmy got some setups, im sure they will be posted at some point:thumbsup:


Edit: se jimmys post

[c0sie]

Top stuff.

Cheers chaps :)

[c0sie]

Anyone got a copy of Neil Craggs setup from one of the recent indoor meets he did with the blue proto Reedy Lipo at all?

Thanks

[Zedman]

Andy have a go with my car on saturday night at york and see what you think. I think my setup is pretty much DIALED.


Will let u set my B44 up on Saturday night after your recent sucess )

[mattym0310]

He runs an s4, not a b44 and will therefore not have a clue bout the b44. :lol:

Mike Hudson races his b44 frequently at York so will have a good setup for his... if not try Rich Lowe

[Mike Hudson]

He runs an s4, not a b44 and will therefore not have a clue bout the b44. :lol:

Mike Hudson races his b44 frequently at York so will have a good setup for his... if not try Rich Lowe

I can help you with a good indoor setup for the b44 zedman :) still tinkering with outdoor setups though :p come see me on saturday if your there, im more than willing to help
Mike.

[Arn0]

Check links in second post ot this thread, a b44 indoor might be available http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11094&postcount=2

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb44/B44_Wonderflupke_CarpetSetup2008JanFeb.pdf

[V-Rossi]

Does anyone have a document or a word about the more advanced elements of a set-up? Such as the effect of a change of position of the inner ball stud or ball stud on the hub. I know the effect of the length of the camber link more or less, but I'm searching for a document that explains really everything there is to set-up a car.
I tried the Hudy set-up book but it doesn't come close to the total amount of possible adjustments.

[stegger]

All you need to know fella:woot::woot:
http://users.pandora.be/elvo/

[V-Rossi]

Thanks, problem was solved already:lol:

[Arn0]

Following the 2008 EC, I got two questions:

The track was the same in layout but the surface seems to be not as smooth -as far as I can remember) as in 2005, do B4 drivers use the same set-up? What did they change?

Here is a picture of the track surface:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4136/cimg1833gr8.jpg

The other one is in regard of Hupo Honigl B4 equipped with Tamiya Shocks, as mentionned by Jimmy. What does that change, is there any influence on the car handling? Is there any influence on the global car setup?

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2008/day1/OOP_9925.jpg

[Adyb]

Hello,

Does anyone have a B4 setup for Eden Park Raceway from the last national, that they would not mind sharing?

Thanks:)

[Chris Doughty]

Arn0 - Hupo is factory Tamiya, it makes sense for him to put as many Tamiya parts on it as possible.

I think Bradders and Neil proved that it was not essential to do that

[V-Rossi]

Hayato Matsuzaki did it as well during the Worlds 2007, using Hot Bodies shocks on his B4 and anodising some parts to give it the purple 'Hot Bodies' look.

[jcb]

Hello,

Does anyone have a B4 setup for Eden Park Raceway from the last national, that they would not mind sharing?

Thanks:)


I used the following courtessy of Andy Carter, which made the car feel great, shame my driving wasn't :(

Front:
Blue Front Spring
35wt oil
Number 2 piston

Rear:
Silver rear spring
30wt oil
Number 1 piston
Middle on Tower
Inner on Wishbone

1 deg Anti-squat
Med wheelbase
cells in forward position
10g weight on the servo can help
Middle on Tower
Inner on Wishbone

Camber links as per kit


Make sure you have weight in all the normal places (under the rear bulkhead / rear pods etc)

[Adyb]

Thanks JCB,

I am new to off-road and the B4, where should I be putting the weight and how much?

Thanks

[jcb]

Thanks JCB,

I am new to off-road and the B4, where should I be putting the weight and how much?

Thanks


The weight goes in the rear between the gear case and the rear block where the anti squat spacer goes - it works out at four of the associated weights which is around 28 grams I think. The other weight goes in the rear triangles on the main chassis, ten grams in each seems to be most common. Some people also put ten grams in the small space in the front bulkhead bit. Hope that makes sense.

[eere]

Anybody got a B4 FT setup for bumpy track?

[dan r]

hi has any one got a setup for a b4 at eastrax :thumbsup:

cheers
dan

[dan r]

sorted now :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[spud31]

has anyone got a worksop setup i can have please ? ;-)

[Mike Hudson]

B4
22/78 6.5 sintered lrp/nosram
schumacher hard insert, cut down.. although most run medium
1-2 neg camber
wishbones level
silver spring f an r front 35 #2 rear 30 #1
lead under lipo
big wing
front shocks - middle top, inside bottom
rear middle top, insode bottom

[spud31]

Cheers mike how much did u ballast car due to lipo

[bretts]

I always forget which stock piston is larger or smaller, i'm posting this image.

http://rc4less.com/images/6465%20Shock%20Piston%20Set.jpg

1 Largest
2 Medium
3 Smallest

[Medders]

A quick query on wheels:

I have always used the wider type of front wheels on the B4, indoor with pins and out doors with mini spikes.

Does anyone use the narrower wheels and what difference does it make to the handling ??

[Mike Hudson]

Cheers mike how much did u ballast car due to lipo

depends how much the lipo weighs, you put enough weight under the lipo in so that the lipo is brought back to the same weight as 6 nimh cells

[Mike Hudson]

A quick query on wheels:

I have always used the wider type of front wheels on the B4, indoor with pins and out doors with mini spikes.

Does anyone use the narrower wheels and what difference does it make to the handling ??

the wider wheels should make the car a little more stable than the narrow wheels but i guess the narrow wheels will give a little more bite

[enfieldbanana]

HEy there people,

Was wondering if anybody out there has a setup for the B44 for Stotfold.

Many thanks in advance.

Andy

[mikeyscott]

Just changing to Losi shocks and wondered what the best set-up is for a bumpy ish astro turf se-up.

35w in front with which springs (green)?
30w in the rear with which springs (yellow/pink)?

Otherwise I'm running a similar set-up to stofold

[gazhillAE]

Just changing to Losi shocks and wondered what the best set-up is for a bumpy ish astro turf se-up.

35w in front with which springs (green)?
30w in the rear with which springs (yellow/pink)?

Otherwise I'm running a similar set-up to stofold

One word....why?? On the B4 I'm guessing?

Depends what pistons you have really.

Most xfactory drivers are running red all round 35/30 or 32.5/27.5 losi oils

Reason why I say "why" is because ive trialled Losi pistons Orange-Front and Blue-Rear in my B4 outdoors this year and struggled!

Local outdoor track to me is Southport which if you've been is very bumpy.

The standard no 2/no 1 pistons didn't seem to react quick enough when needed so I tried these.

Problem I found that you couldn't get a good setting easily, either too much grip or not enough. Most people run 35/30 with the AE pistons and I tried the same as a trial and it was awful. Did a test at home the other night and to get kind of near the same feel you have to go up 10weight heavier with the losi pistons.

Stook the AE ones back in as I know they work at the end of the day a trial is a trial I didn't like them!

In the B44 they work great though!!! Hummmmmm

[millzy]

Runnig Blue losi pistons in the rear will give you less pack than a ae 1 - and there for you should go up 5w in oil (35)

same for the front a losi orange = ae 1 again you should go up 5w (40 ) to get the same dampining as a ae 2 on 35

[Ben Turner]

Anyone got a setup from the ae guys at the Talywein national this year? Or any new setups for running a B4 Lipos on astro? Could do with a few pointers for this weekend.

Cheers,
Ben

[ex-sco77morgan]

You need a bumpy set-up :D

Weighty and softy I reckon (green on back 25/30wt and silver/blue 35wt up front depending on car weight)

Preparing myself to be shot down haha :D

[millzy]

Anyone got a setup from the ae guys at the Talywein national this year? Or any new setups for running a B4 Lipos on astro? Could do with a few pointers for this weekend.

Cheers,
Ben


I know the AE boys ran green rear silver front and drilled a 4th hole on the rear shock tower pick up

pistons 2 all round and down 5 weight in the rear

[ex-sco77morgan]

Milzy I must be learning buddy !!

Not far off this time hey :D

[Dreadstar]

This set-up request might be a little taxing,but I'm looking for an astro set-up to run on an 1/8th off-road track with large jumps.Here are some pics.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/dave6642/DSC01353-1.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/dave6642/DSC01354-1.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/dave6642/DSC01355-1.jpg

[chokoboy]

Jimmy do u have any euro setups for B4 that u can post?

[IceMike]

This set-up request might be a little taxing,but I'm looking for an astro set-up to run on an 1/8th off-road track with large jumps.Here are some pics.






for what car?? and that track looks awesome :P i want a go!!!

[MHeadling]

I am after a bit of set up help on the B4, I am going to be running it on polished wood at Faversham on Schu yell full spikes, it has the generic B4 set up on it but I need more steering?

Any ideas on springs? Oils? I am thinking camber link location could be critical in generating some grip.

[jcb]

I am after a bit of set up help on the B4, I am going to be running it on polished wood at Faversham on Schu yell full spikes, it has the generic B4 set up on it but I need more steering?

Any ideas on springs? Oils? I am thinking camber link location could be critical in generating some grip.

It's been a while since I last raced on polished floor, but from memory something along the lines of

Front:
30wt
number 2 piston
brown spring

Rear
25wt
number 1 piston
green spring

I am pretty sure the camber links were as per kit, maybe lowering the rear inner ball stud to get some more side bite, and using the extra short wheel base modification to get some more forwards drive and initial turn in. Depends a bit on where you want your steering, seem to remember moving the rear camber link to the inner hole on the hub carrier to, although I can't remember how that affected the handling.

[MHeadling]

Thanks for the set up JCB I will give it a go!

[Arn0]

Hi Gentlemen,

Just to ket you know some change about what I do as their is some change to do on your bookmarks. Please refer to this message (http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11094&postcount=2)

Hope that help!

[alexb4]

Hi has anyone got a setup for worksop for my b44 first time driving there and racing my b44 thanks Alex

[MHeadling]

Thanks for the set up JCB, tried it out last night and it was really good ! Just want to try short front link and raising inner ball stud to get some more steering but the set up above is a great starting point for others to try.

[DaveG28]

What springs/oil ar people using up at Worksop on the B4?

[x313]

Has anyone got a decent B4 set-up for Bicester/Proline arena?

Car is 6.5L Novak Brushless with Lipo if it helps...

[PTRU]

Rough set up for Pro-line dirt arena B4
Front
shocks No1 piston 30wt
w/b inside hole
tower mid hole
brown spring
rest is std set up

Rear
shocks No2 piston 30wt
w/b inside hole
tower inside hole
silver spring
mid wheel base.

rest std

would suggest softer motor if you have one 7.5 25/81 gearing or 8.5 26/81 gearing

hope this helps

[x313]

Cheers for that, will give it a try.

What tyres do most use?

[mikeyscott]

Any EPR set-ups for the B4?

[x313]

Does anyone have a B4 starting set up for RHR?

Cheers!

[antnee]

Does anyone have a B4 starting set up for RHR?

Cheers!

Same here, I need some base set-ups too :o

[jas1]

Does anyone have a good grass set up, not run 2wd for alot of years, thought I'd throw myself in at the deep end and try the regional at broxetowe

cheers

[MHeadling]

Are the team guys using Ghea Pistons on the B44?? if so are you running them all round or just Ghea in rear??

I take it No2 in the front, No1 in the rear??

[Grundy]

can anyone suggest a gearing ratio for the b4.1 brushless rtr? it came with 21/81, moved it up to 26/81, then 28/81... and the motor (reedy 3300kv) is still cold after running??

[area52]

Guys,

I am in need for an astroturf set-up for my B4FT. The track is very bumpy but without any larger jumps.

Also: I use slightly heavier Team Orion Molecular packs and I am not able to get hold of brass front bulkheads or similar stuff. Core RC lead weight is at hand so I can use this to balance/up-weight the buggy.

I looked at the set-up sections here on oOple as well as PetitRC but I didn't found suitable information.

Thanks in advance

52

[Jamie.T]

Anybody got a rough set-up guide for a B4 on an old school grass track please. Relatively smooth and open and is all grass.

Thanks in advance guys,

Jamie....

[Jamie.T]

Surely someone has a grass set-up they can share with me. Please :cry:

Jamie.......

[MHeadling]

Dude the best place to look is CML website, they have all the team driver set ups, take a look at a grass set up on there, to be honest the B4 set up doesnt change alot, most of the time you just swap from Blue to Silver springs on the front.

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/team_setup.php

[Jamie.T]

Cheers Mark, had no idea there was setups on their site.

Jamie.....

[MHeadling]

No probs! Print a few off and you can tell from comparing the set ups they don't change a massive amount, the latest set up from Paul Bradby from Robin Hood Raceway will be good for grass set up as these are both high grip surfaces.

I would invest in a set of stagger rib tyres for the front too

[Jamie.T]

I run stagger ribs indoor on carpet and they're awesome, didn't realise they were good for grass too.

Jamie...

[AndyG]

just about to build the dampers in my new B4.1, ready for the indoor season.

Is this going to be OK as a starting point ?

Front :
Silver springs
AE#1
32.5wt Losi

Rear :
Silver springs
AE#2
30wt Losi

what about any internal droop limiters?

Ta

[markwilliamson2001]

Yeah looks okay.

You might want thicker front oil with new tyres though, as it will be a bit twitchy.

Hth
Mark

[tony6187]

just about to build the dampers in my new B4.1, ready for the indoor season.

Is this going to be OK as a starting point ?

Front :
Silver springs
AE#1
32.5wt Losi

Rear :
Silver springs
AE#2
30wt Losi

what about any internal droop limiters?

Ta
id maybe try it with no 2 pistons up front and no1 in back.help calm the front down a bit.try your setup first though and see what it does

[AndyG]

Yeah looks okay.

You might want thicker front oil with new tyres though, as it will be a bit twitchy.

Hth
Mark

Not got any 35wt. Got some 40wt - too much?

[knighthawk]

Hi, Can you help !

Just bought a B4.1 and want to run it indoors on Carpet on a tight high grip surface with jumps, woops and a table top

I'm looking for a good starting setup, ie

shock setup/placement
camber links
Ride Height
Droop
Antisquat

basically a complete setup please if possible !

The control tyre is Shumy Yellow Minipins on the rears with either Minipin or Stagger Ribs in Yellow on the front both with medium inserts !

As said the car has just been built to kit instructions, will be running Lipo and a brushless system

Any help is much appreciated !

Dez

[markwilliamson2001]

Try this:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4_RichardLowe_PRC20090117.pdf

Its what I started with....

[knighthawk]

Try this:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4_RichardLowe_PRC20090117.pdf

Its what I started with....


mark,

thanks for the help !

dez

[AndyG]

Not got any 35wt. Got some 40wt - too much?

OK, so I'm still running 40wt in the front (purely because I didn't have any 35wt available) and I found the back end very unstable indoors (polished floor @ York).

Could the 'stiffer' front end contribute to this, or should I be looking elsewhere ?

'Twas a frustrating drive .... also thought I've maybe got too much torque in there. Running a Speed Passion 7.5 23/81, got the throttle exp trimmed down on the radio, and moved the esc profile down to something less aggressive.

[Richard Lowe]

Here's the setup I was running on the B4 at R1 of the Batley indoor series :)

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=3527

Or a larger version if thats a bit hard to read...

>>>Click<<< (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4972/b4chadderton.jpg)

Also Arn0 has done a PDF on the PetitRC site too...

>>>Click<<< (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031/index.html)


A couple of things to note, If you're using the older B4 rear tower you should be in the middle hole as the tower is a bit wider. Also having the weight in similar places is important for the setup to work, basically 40g right at the front and 30g or so around the antisquat block. A few people have tried my setups but with loads of extra weight and wondered why it wasn't much good - keep it light ;)

[panch]

Rich

Would this setup be the way you would run @ Ardent indoors on mainly carpet ? First run with the B4 on the 19th so looking for a good starting point, anything you would change ??

Cheers

Lee



Here's the setup I was running on the B4 at R1 of the Batley indoor series :)

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=3527

Or a larger version if thats a bit hard to read...

>>>Click<<< (http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4972/b4chadderton.jpg)

Also Arn0 has done a PDF on the PetitRC site too...

>>>Click<<< (http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031/index.html)


A couple of things to note, If you're using the older B4 rear tower you should be in the middle hole as the tower is a bit wider. Also having the weight in similar places is important for the setup to work, basically 40g right at the front and 30g or so around the antisquat block. A few people have tried my setups but with loads of extra weight and wondered why it wasn't much good - keep it light ;)

[Richard Lowe]

Rich

Would this setup be the way you would run @ Ardent indoors on mainly carpet ? First run with the B4 on the 19th so looking for a good starting point, anything you would change ??

Cheers

Lee
Hi Lee,

Pretty much, if the carpet's super grippy I'd lower the front and take some rows off the front tyres - other than that I'm going to start the Petit as per that setup :)

Rich

[MHeadling]

Cheers for posting the set up Rich, very handy for my B4! :thumbsup:

One quick question, raising the inner ball stud on the front tower, does this take a bit of steering away on high grip?? What does this set up do to the car?

[Jamesy]

Hi Rich,

I have a few questions about your set up for Chadderton.

Do you use Associated shock oils?

What rear toe do you run? You are running the kit hubs, what about the inboard toe?

I'll be giving this a go at Ardent this weekend.

Cheers,
James

[Richard Lowe]

Mark - More washers under the front camberlink ballstud will dull initial turn-in slightly and give slightly more on-power steering.

Jamesy - Yep I always use AE oil, as for toe I run 3 degrees inboard and 0 degrees on the hubs. If you are running the kit 0.5 degree hubs just leave the inboard on 3 degrees and it'll be a little safer on power :)

[AntH]

Thanks for posting this setup, I'm glad I can start ripping your setups off again now you are back in the land of B4. Not sure its my laptop, but in the words of some Cannonball Runners driving into a pool, 'I can't see sheet, can you?!'..

Any chance you could somehow re-post please with things bigger please? That would be top.

[Richard Lowe]

Any chance you could somehow re-post please with things bigger please? That would be top.
The easiest to read is the PDF Arn0 did for the Petit website, direct link...
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031.pdf :)

[lynx75]

The easiest to read is the PDF Arn0 did for the Petit website, direct link...
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031.pdf :)


Hi Richard,
thanks for your setup.

I would like ask you to post, if possible, the setup for the B4.1 on a astroturf.
The indoor track where I'll have races is created on a tennis area and the astroturf is slightly filled with some sands/gravel.

Do you have one to share with us, please?

During the last club racing some people was using the oil density very high, around 40wt/42.5wt. Why so high, please?
When I have a look on your setups the oil density is always around the range 25wt to 35wt.

I look forward to hearing news from you. :)

Thank you,
Marco.

[Bradders]

In case anyone wants it, here's my final setup from the weekend.....

[lynx75]

In case anyone wants it, here's my final setup from the weekend.....

Thank you.

[lynx75]

Anyone could post some B4.1 FT setups for the astroturf please. Or some suggestions.

thank you all:):)

[Richard Lowe]

Hi Richard,
thanks for your setup.

I would like ask you to post, if possible, the setup for the B4.1 on a astroturf.
The indoor track where I'll have races is created on a tennis area and the astroturf is slightly filled with some sands/gravel.

Do you have one to share with us, please?

During the last club racing some people was using the oil density very high, around 40wt/42.5wt. Why so high, please?
When I have a look on your setups the oil density is always around the range 25wt to 35wt.

I look forward to hearing news from you. :)

Thank you,
Marco.

Hi Marco :)

I normally run pretty much the same setup on my cars on most tracks, my starting astro setup is just like the Chadderton setup I posted above but with 2 washers under the front inner camberlink ballstud and the rear shocks in the middle on the tower - other than those little tweaks it's the same.

It's only on unusual tracks (like the Petit) I make any major changes - in the case of the Petit track my car was exactly as the setup Paul's just posted :)

[lynx75]

Hi Richard,

thank you for your useful information.

I'll keep you update on my progression:).

regards,
Marco.

[MiCk B.]

The easiest to read is the PDF Arn0 did for the Petit website, direct link...
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associated/setupb4/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031/B4.1_RichardLowe_Chadderton20101031.pdf :)


Richard,

Just a quick question on your set-up for the B4.1

Your running no limiters in the shocks front and rear, are you also running the stock 4.1 front shock shafts, the 0.80 length ones?

Does this not give a lot of droop on the front of the car?

MiCk B. :-)

[lynx75]

Richard,

Just a quick question on your set-up for the B4.1

Your running no limiters in the shocks front and rear, are you also running the stock 4.1 front shock shafts, the 0.80 length ones?

Does this not give a lot of droop on the front of the car?

MiCk B. :-)

+1 :D . Usually for the indoor track limiters are used in the shocks.

[MHeadling]

Just a quick gearing question really:

B4, 78t spur, 26t pinion on a 10.5 motor, does this sound ok?

[markwilliamson2001]

Yep, you might want to gear up a bit for outside, thats all.

Cheers
Mark

[MHeadling]

Thanks Mark, glad im about right on the gearing, Im indoors this weekend at Maritime so should be ok as it is.

[Ckapp]

Hi hope some one can help. 1st time racing the B44 this sunday at cov. just like a easy/stable set-up

Many Thanks :thumbsup:

[lynx75]

Hi Marco :)

I normally run pretty much the same setup on my cars on most tracks, my starting astro setup is just like the Chadderton setup I posted above but with 2 washers under the front inner camberlink ballstud and the rear shocks in the middle on the tower - other than those little tweaks it's the same.

It's only on unusual tracks (like the Petit) I make any major changes - in the case of the Petit track my car was exactly as the setup Paul's just posted :)

Hi Richard,

I hope you are well.

Thanks a lot for you advice for the set-up and the set-up itself. On the AstroTurf track I had a race and I went well. The 2nd place in qualification.
The car and me :-) went very well. I'm very happy.

I didn't use the inline steering but the standard one. The only changed was made to the rear spring, from the silver to the red one (blue is also a good choice). I tried silver in the rear but the car didn't enter well into the corners.

Now I'll have another important race on the same surface (the track will be created wide compared to the previous one).

Now I slightly changed the set-up, I moved from the trailing steering to the inline steering to test if the inline it will be better. I'll keep the same set-up with only this modification.

Why when I changed the rear spring the car entered in the corners betters? Is the inline a good choice? Any other suggestion please?

Thanks,
Marco.

[Richard Lowe]

Hi Marco, sorry for the slight delay replying...

The in-line's are a little more consistent in general and make the car feel much more positive and agile.

I my experience the trailing steering blocks feel very numb turning in, have lots of mid corner steering and medium/high exit steering. The mid corner steering is a very good thing but I find the point they grip to be a bit vague and inconsistent.

The in-line blocks give more positive turn in, are less snatchy mid corner but have low/medium exit steering. In general the car feels more connected to the ground, where the trailing blocks feel a bit 'floaty'.

They are very much a love/hate thing for most people, you will be able to tell after the first couple of minutes running if you are going to get on with them or not. When changing to them don't forget to space the caster blocks to the back and move the ballstud on the steering rack to the back also ;)


Can you expand a bit about corner entry with the silver rear springs, what was it doing you didn't like, are you on a very high grip track?

[lynx75]

Hi Richard,

thank you for your replied, you're helping me/us a lot.

I'll try the in-line steering next weekend for the Italian indoor championship.

The indoor track where I raced and I'll race next weekend is AstroTurf track within which there's sand. The grip is not comparable to the moquette, it is a medium grip track.
When I used the silver rear spring the car was slow and had less turning in, so I didn't have the opportunity to bite the corner entry, also the low corner steering.

When I changed to the red rear spring I felt the car more aggressive to enter and exit corners. I would like to send me set-up and if you would have a look should be better :-)

I'm sending you to your oople's e-mail my set-up right now. :thumbsup:

I look to hearing news from you.

Thank you a lot.
Marco.

[colmo]

I'm running a B4 on astroturf - it's a bit unusual in that it's indoors on a hard concrete floor (most unforgiving in crashes!).

I have a fairly standard setup on it - everything is more or less in the middle setting. Silver springs all round, 35wt front, 30wt rear. Outer 2 rows of minispikes removed from the rears, stagger rib yellow fronts. There are sheets of lead under the lipos and on top of the servo.

My two main issues are grip roll (high-speed corners) and on-power understeer (hairpins/low speed corners).

For the grip roll, short of balding my tyres or switching to green minispikes from yellow, I'm thinking of either shortening the rear camberlinks to reduce sidebite mid-corner (where it tends to roll), or else putting a washer or 2 under the rear camberlink ballstud?
Would more weight at the back of the battery dock help?

For the on-power understeer, I know I need more weight up front (no brass bits for me, just chunks of roofing lead), but what else could I do? I went to staggers to reduce grip roll, perhaps go back to minispikes? Richard Lowe commented somewhere that washers under the front camberlink ballstuds would give a little on-power steering, but I presume also take away off-power steering? Would lengthening the front camberlink help?

The car isn't far off, it's just a bit too on edge.

[lynx75]

Hi Richard,

where are you ? :blush:

I look forward to hearing news from you....

thank you a lot,
Marco.

[Richard Lowe]

I'm never too far away... :p

What tyres are you running on Marco? Stagger ribs on the front by the sounds of it...? You're best leaving staggers as a last resort on very high grip tracks, on anything lower grip they just arn't fast on a B4 in my experience.

I've been playing with heavier oils a bit recently, I've found with the same oil/pistons in them the V2 shocks end up feeling softer than V1's. Running the usual 30/35w the car feels too soft and flops around all over on higher grip and it is hard work on fast/slight direction changes like a chicane that's not quite a straight line through. Currently I'm on 45w/2/Blue on the front and 35w/1/Silver at the rear which is working pretty well, although I've not been outdoors with it just yet so I couldn't say if it would be too stiff for proper bumps.

Colmo - Try moving any weight you can to the front of the car, including moving to long wheelbase unless you are already there. Also how much antisquat are you running? Any less than 2 and the B4 pushes loads on-power. Get some limiters in those front shocks too, that'll stop all the weight going to the back when you step on the gas. How much toe in are you running on the back? If you are on the 4.1 kit standard 3.5 degrees drop it back down to 3, this makes a bigger difference than you'd think...

What happens to the car right before it grip rolls on you? Does the back collapse lifting the inside front wheel, or does the front grab and throw it sideways?


One more thing I tried last weekend that the US guys are doing that I really liked was the carbon rear wishbones. The new plastic is quite a bit softer than the old stuff, grab hold of the rear hub and try and twist it forwards and backwards... With the shock mounted as it is right at the front of the arm this flex will be contributing to the suspension quite a bit and not in a good way! I tried the new plastic and carbon back to back and the carbon felt much better. The rear felt much more planted and stable - it also felt to have much more grip yet the car didn't lose any steering :confused:

[colmo]

Thanks Richard - I have some homework to do, as some of those things I haven't touched since I got the car 2nd hand. It's a vanilla B4 FT, carbon chassis and all (I've seen you posting how you preferred the carbon chassis over the plastic).

When it rolls in the fast corner after the straight, it's when the grip is coming up a bit (seems to be related to temperature) - coming out of the corner, the inside wheel might dance a little then it flips and spins in a barrell roll. Too much braking is also likely to cause a roll. (Now, I really just lift off, let the drag brake kick in, change direction, then hit the gas again.)

It does sometimes roll going into the straight - if I attack the corner with too much steering lock.

I'll be running the car on a polished wood surface tomorrow (complete opposite), so will investigate during prep.

[lynx75]

Hi Richard,

thank you for your kind support, much appreciate.

You're right. I'm running on Stagger ribs on the front, I never tried any other front tyres on the Astroturf indoor tracks.
This weekend the tyres are under controlled, we could using on the rear the MiniPin Yellow and on the front we could using Stagger ribs yellow or MiniPin yellow.

Right now I'm writing on a paper the changes I'll do this Saturday, to be ready for Sunday:

- Learn the track
- Starting from the set-up I sent you on your e-mail address with Stagger ribs front/MiniPin rear (1 set)
- Starting from the set-up I sent you on your e-mail address with MiniPin front /MiniPin rear (2 set)
- Changing on 45w/2/Blue on the front and 35w/1/Silver at the rear with tyre (1 set)
- Changing on 45w/2/Blue on the front and 35w/1/Silver at the rear with tyre (2 set)

Do I droop the rear degrees back to 3, please? Or I keep it as it is.

Are the carbon rear wishbones already available?

Thank you in advance.
Marco.

P.s. Out of this topic: Will you go to the European off road champion in France this year?

[technokit]

Could anyone post carpet/polished wood setup for T4 team. Please as much details as possible.

[Richard Lowe]

Could anyone post carpet/polished wood setup for T4 team. Please as much details as possible.
Cavalieri's Trackside hobbies setup always works well for me...
http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/cars_and_trucks/RC10T4.1/setup_sheets/t4_cavalieri_trackside_2007.pdf

You need a little bit of weight around the rear toe/antisquat block behind the lipo, I use a Trishbits brass block. No other weight needed, whatever you do don't add any to the front (brass bulkhead ect) as it makes it really unbalanced.

Rich :)

[technokit]

THX Richard

[Richard Lowe]

>>> B4.1 2011 National Round 2 - RHR (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3889/b4rhr.jpg) <<<

>>> SC10FT 2011 SC National Round 1 - Silverstone (http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5986/sc10r1.jpg) <<<

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[jampat2004]

>>> B4.1 2011 National Round 2 - RHR (http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3889/b4rhr.jpg) <<<

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hiya richard
the set up you have posted for your b4.1 for rhr would this be a good set up for dry bumpy grass?
also which hole do i mount the ball stud on the rear hubs as its not clear on the set up sheet,as for the limiters in your shocks 5 in the front 2 in the rear are these spacers in mm,s.
thanks jamie

[smokes]

Hey I am planning on running b4 with lipo and a 7.5 turn brushless
I am a little confused about what tyre to use outdoors at batley. do i run stagger at the front on 4wd fronts or use narrow rims?and what inserts will suit? I am assuming the rear will be yellow min spikes..

[_sleigh_]

There really only two different tyres used by most B4 drivers (in the dry).

We normally opt for a 2wd minispike in yellow or the new cut stagger rib. In either instance we'd use the standard front wheel (not narrow).

The difference between the two is primarily the amount of turn in you will get. If you choose the minispike option and then have two much turn-in, then you could always cut the outside row off.

HTH

[smokes]

the stagger ribs do you mount them the whole width of the rim or to the inner rib?

[jampat2004]

the stagger ribs do you mount them the whole width of the rim or to the inner rib?
to be honest pal i always use the slim front wheels,cougar sv slim wheels are perfect this is what im using with the new cut staggers on my b4.
i race at batley and these are sorted for that track.:thumbsup:

[tony6187]

the stagger ribs do you mount them the whole width of the rim or to the inner rib?
stagger ribs to the inside bead or CUTstaggers full width wheels

[smokes]

i got mini spikes. For the front I will be racing there tommorrow though i will probably run out of battery charge before the end of the meeting...

[smokes]

does anyone know where bradders b4 grass astro setup is posted? Also will gluing the servo saver make steering a little more consistant over the bumpy stuff?

[BeachBuggyPhil]

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Hi
I copied your bottom SC10 setup exactly except for the tyres and I only had 40w oil to rebuild my shocks due to a shortage at the shop.
I'm loving it, very happy. I will get some new tyres soon but as the car is only for bashing I think there will be very little I will change about it.
I also didn't have the weights you've used so made some and added a little to the left of the car to balance it left to right and then screwed 40g to the front shock tower until I can get some sticky weights or something a little more FT!
Thank you for sharing it and allowing me to copy it as I bought it 2nd hand and have never owned a SCT and had no idea were to start.

Happy days.
Looking forward to getting it down the local track.

Oh and one other thing I will experiment with is the gearing. I have an 82 spur and 18 pinion on a 5.5t (5.5t is all I had) and it seems ok for now but I also have an 87spur and a 19 and 20 pinion.
Any combo of them you would suggest?

Thanks
Phil
:thumbsup:

[way_to_hell]

Hey,

I'm looking for a basic astroturf setup for the T4 - can't find anyone at petit.
So does anyone has one?

[ejw]

Can anyone explain what the limiters detailed on the set up sheets are and what the number signifies I.e mm etc. B4.1 shocks.

[gazhillAE]

Can anyone explain what the limiters detailed on the set up sheets are and what the number signifies I.e mm etc. B4.1 shocks.

00.30 limiters
They are the same size as you will be using for your ball studs although in plastic not metal.
Each 00.30 is 1mm from memory
Part number is As4187
Hope that helps.
Reasons for fitting them to limit down travel, stop driveshafts popping out and also you normally run them as a tuning aid on smooth tracks
Quick explanation to be honest in b4 most tracks its 00.90 in front so x3 spacers and 00.30 in rears so one spacer each side obviously :thumbsup:
Stick with what most others run you won't go wrong unless your using other parts not as factory fit.

[MHeadling]

Any idea when the MK set ups will be around for C4.1 and B44.1??

[gazhillAE]

Any idea when the MK set ups will be around for C4.1 and B44.1??

Carpet setups do you mean?
Who attended? Any AE drivers?
I'm sure that the carpet setups won't change much to the outdoor ones other than 5-10w heavier oil all round
Outside on all arms I'm guessing
Rear inner camber link lifted higher
And maybe a row or two of the tyres all round

Best carpet setup I know of which is very rarely changed by me is bradders petite 2011 setup for b44.1
Try it it's good!

Keep an eye on the petite site for setups

:)

[tony12795]

Tom Yard was there.

Maybe PM him ?

Any idea when the MK set ups will be around for C4.1 and B44.1??

[gazhillAE]

Tom Yard was there.

Maybe PM him ?

Il mail wez and get him onto it to get them off yardy!
:)

[corsa148]

Anyone got a good set up for ribblevalley for my b4.1 goin to have a play while it's closed over Christmas :thumbsup:

[TommyG]

Are there any recent set ups for the C4.1?

[gazhillAE]

Are there any recent set ups for the C4.1?

Neil cragg Worksop only I believe

[Arn0]

Are there any recent set ups for the C4.1?
http://www.petitrc.com/index.php?page=setup_sheet

[PaulJCentro]

Hello guys, has anyone run the c4.1 on dirt much and can share results/setups.

I know the factory guys revert to the b4.1 (based on rear motor weight of course) but is this really necessary and is the c4.1 competitive on dirt?

[Richard Lowe]

Tom Yardy is probably the best person to talk to as he's run the car on dirt before (at the euro's I think).

You really are better running the B4.1 on dirt, as a few people found out at the oOple race mid motor is a real handful!

[andy110m]

I was one of the idiots that tried a C4.1 at the oople, I was pitting with Rich and he spent the whole time laughing at my efforts trying to get that car round the track. It was great fun but in no way was it fast.

To say it was a handful is an understatement! Stick with the B4.1 for dirt - I will be!

[jaysllim]

I enjoyed using my c4 at the oople nd thought that is was fun and really easy to drive.i would even say that it was easy to drive.but wether it was the fastest (i was in the g lol) i dont no but i enjoyed dribing,it at the oople.

[PaulJCentro]

nice cheers guys, was curious but now I definitely know! :thumbsup:

[PaulJCentro]

ok, so do the good guys here have a pretty base setup for the c4.1 for astroturf?

Also a b4.1 setup for dirt?

Im after BASE setups that you guys use as a strating point at most tracks..

Thanks very much in advance for the assistance!:thumbsup:

I should clarify, as it sounds as though I am being lazy and not going through setups. I have been through and there are a lot, I am really after what you guys would consider to be a "BASE" starting setup for both cars. I have changed brands so would like a good base to begin with.

The b4.1 is mainly on a track that is quite open but loose and bumpy.

I think I should be ok with a C4.1 setup for astro from Bradders/Cragg/Yardy?

Cheers guys and really hope it doesnt make me sound lazy, as I really appreciate the assistance.

[paulc]

B44.1 set up for Kiddermister please something that's up to date had a look about most set ups are from years ago !!

Cheers

[Toyman]

Is B4.1 oople dirt setup available somewhere?

[valiroche]

hello guys

where could I find sc 10 set up for carpet?

thanks

[Arn0]

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11094&postcount=2

[Dwales1]

Just a quick questions gents.

Having stripped my spur gear yesterday want to make sure I'm getting the most out of my gearing, before I rebuild, but not really sure how the gearing ratios work.

I'm running a 8.5 sensored in a C4.1, on all astro high grip track.
What are the best gearing options?

Thanks in advance.

Darren

[KRob]

Neil Cragg's set-ups from his wins at Southport now available on the CML site:

Centro C4.1 (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/C0001/setups/C4%201%202013_Southport_Cragg.pdf)

Associated B44.2 (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/AS9062/setups/B44.2-Southport-Cragg-2013.pdf)

[markwilliamson2001]

Hi Krob.

Just a minor query basically! Whenever I try and read the PDF's on an iPad/iPhone the annotations never come across, which basically render the PDF useless, I can however look at it normally on the PC or mac running adobe reader or preview respectively...

I havent tried the Adobe App yet, but it might be something worth looking into, as I really liked having the PDFs on my phone/tablet when trackside, rather than carrying a big folder around in my hauler :-)

Obviously a simple solution is to 'print them off' but I HATE doing this!
just my 2 cents...

:lol:

[gazhillAE]

You need to download adobe reader else it won't work
Simples

[Burty248]

Hi Krob.

Just a minor query basically! Whenever I try and read the PDF's on an iPad/iPhone the annotations never come across, which basically render the PDF useless, I can however look at it normally on the PC or mac running adobe reader or preview respectively...

I havent tried the Adobe App yet, but it might be something worth looking into, as I really liked having the PDFs on my phone/tablet when trackside, rather than carrying a big folder around in my hauler :-)

Obviously a simple solution is to 'print them off' but I HATE doing this!
just my 2 cents...

:lol:


If you get the adobe app you can then save the pdfs to the app and the anotaions will appear.

[Pitman Ed]

Darren,

Gearing C4.1 - it depends on the make of motor and how you set your ESC, but on a typical Bury track try 81 spur with 25 pinion. That should be fast enough on the straight without being jumpy on the infield.

Eddie

[ianjoyner]

Neil Cragg's set-ups from his wins at Southport now available on the CML site:

Centro C4.1 (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/C0001/setups/C4%201%202013_Southport_Cragg.pdf)

Associated B44.2 (http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/AS9062/setups/B44.2-Southport-Cragg-2013.pdf)

BB tyres in 2WD, was it wet?

[Toyman]

I had exactly the same question, but setup-wise it was dry