Pred X11 updates

[franki]

Hi, just woundering how people are geting on with the x11 any updates or new models on the way ??

[footey]

would love a new pred to come out but think xtreme are busy with the vega so might be awhile yet

[migsy]

would love a new pred to come out but think xtreme are busy with the vega so might be awhile yet


i wouldnt hold your breath. from what i heard in the grape vine, the pred will be a full time shelf queen before long.:o

[Ron Burgundy]

talk, talk, talk and nothing............

No website update still and no feedback to customers... I am not suprised and all that has been said in the previous thread, is correct.

All the TX people and its associates, flaming me and others who dare to want a company that supports its customers, have been fed line after line.

enough is enough, its a shelf queen mate, they dont care, why should we?

[wynneb]

We do care Ron thats why we are on this forum , and who's in the grape vine , Team Xtreme please clarify are you still going to produce the Predator , I am only getting back to RC racing and I wanted to race a pred , but the cost of the X11 is out of my range have been waiting patiently for updates on the RS ?? I have an old Pred international I was going to bring back out and get the cobwebs off and run for a couple of races .
Dont let this car die , and tell us officially is there a future for the Predator now ?

I'm not very vocal but just as am getting back to racing it is gone?

Please reply Team Xtreme . I just want to race this car !!

Brian

[Ron Burgundy]

Oh i cared too mate, a lot. Sorry if i sounded sarcastic. Please read my thoughts in the other thread, i made it clear how much i cared and want to race this car. I did even point out and underline, i wanted to give them money as do all pred owners, but they are not interested in the car anymore. Simple as that. We tried and failed. Unfortunately but oh well :)

[MHeadling]

The Pred is still alive and kicking! Dont worry chaps plenty of kits and spares going out of the door when I was getting some parts the other week from Team Xtreme.

Some of the team drivers tried the stand up rear shock prototype and also some different rear hubs (longer link) but the std car was faster and more consistent I was told.

The RS is near completion from what I saw and will be a nice intro into the Pred

Btw I'm no team driver, just telling you what I saw!

[wynneb]

What I meant to say was , it basically proves what you had been saying all along !!! I'll go for a Durango!!!!!!:) role on next season!!!

[wynneb]

If thats the case then , I will be racing a pred next season and after 17 years out its to me still the car to beat!!!!!

[Ron Burgundy]

Me too, if that was the case :)

[restimax]

Some of the team drivers tried the stand up rear shock prototype and also some different rear hubs (longer link) but the std car was faster and more consistent I was told.





sounds good, any image?:)

[Ron Burgundy]

look up Kev Lee's car in this or in the other website and you will see photos, he is using losi shocks/springs on the rear...

http://www.the-pred.co.uk/coppermine/cpg15x/displayimage.php?album=5&pid=296#top_display_media

Maybe BB's (kyosho or ae) could have been advantageous?

This was brought up previously in the other thread also, but as MHeadling said, it didnt work... and the car was apparently better standard.

[burgie]

i cant believe this mod didn't work - the few preds I saw with it done looked a LOT better. The back end wasn't bouncing as much and the car seemed to have lost most, if not all, of the tendancy for the back end to step out when coming out of a corner and putting the power down.

maybe more setup time with shocks, springs, pils etc., was needed....

[Rebelrc]

The Pred it seems was designed well and any major deviation from the original doesn't seem to work better
The rear end on Kev's , Wills etc cars was Ok but no advantage over the stock rear end amazingly
So TX didn't see the point in making a conversion that offered little difference if any!
The cars geometry was still the same bar some Ali rear hub carriers that had a lower outer camber link position but alas the same inner position was not achievable so did odd things
So standard hub carriers worked better
Hope this helps
The pred just likes to be a pred lol

[Team No Idea]

Just to throw my 2 peneth in here. TX very kindly sorted me out a team drive for this year even though I have had huge home commitments with a new little family etc. They have been very understanding with my situation and let me carry on at my own pace for which I thank them very much!
I have only been able to race the X11 on maybe 7 or 8 occasions and to be honest I would love to have done more just to get more feel for it. It can be over 5 weeks between drives for me at the moment so I feel that every time I use the X11 its like starting out all over again.
But when I do get out there and I get a feel for the car (usually at the end of the day) I bloomin love it! I only started racing in 2008 but I have owned RC cars since the mid 1990's and to me, the whole point of owning the X11 is to be different to all the other buggies out there. In the right hands (as many top drivers have shown in the last few years, Ellis Stafford and Kev Lee spring to mind) the car is perfectly capable in its kit form of going really well. It all comes down to how much you want to stick with the car, learn it and enjoy it for what it is. Once you start standing shocks up etc, to me, it is no longer a Pred!? its then becoming a clone of all the other buggies out there. Now I'd love to stick with TX for next year but if they decide I am not the man for the job, then that is perfectly understandable, but i'll still be racing the X11 next season......and loving every minute!:woot:

[Ron Burgundy]

Noone has ever said its a bad car, we all love it... You dont need to justify why you think it is a good car, we all think the same mate :)

[restimax]

look up Kev Lee's car in this or in the other website and you will see photos, he is using losi shocks/springs on the rear...

http://www.the-pred.co.uk/coppermine/cpg15x/displayimage.php?album=5&pid=296#top_display_media

Maybe BB's (kyosho or ae) could have been advantageous?

This was brought up previously in the other thread also, but as MHeadling said, it didnt work... and the car was apparently better standard.

the upright is old, and i think works better on Italy's surfaces....in uk the cars will be developing only in astro surface....

[Ron Burgundy]

the upright is old, and i think works better on Italy's surfaces....in uk the cars will be developing only in astro surface....


yes possibly, should also mention his car is heavily modified, not only the rear inboard shock mount, but also the mount on the rear arm, and the rest of the list of mods done to it.. Im sure its all floating around somewhere.

Ps they are Losi fronts, didnt mention that either :)

But the regulars already know that :)

[pieterke]

Maybe it's a good idea to put a report of every little tweak/ modification you did yourself in a certain situation.

Did it work? or Didn't it?
If it worked we all have something to try and TX would get feedback of things to try in the future...

I live in Belgium and in our Belgian/ Dutch championship we drive on astro, dirt, clay and an indoor multisurface track. I've experienced some different behaviour of the car according to the surface but after some tweaking with the setup and the behaviour of my throtle finger I achieved a good driving car in all the situations with a nearly standard '08 pred (short pushrod, changing droop in the back and the front,standup servo, etc. were the mods I used) .

BTW on the pred.co.uk there are a lot of practical tips and tricks but I guess you guys knew that allready :)

So in my opinion the pred doesn't need the wheel to be reinvented, but a few little updates are allways a welcome guest.

[restimax]

because in all the 2012 race reports of this site i don't see any pred???:mad:

[Ron Burgundy]

Noone is driving them at National Level anymore. Well maybe the odd sprinkling and at some regionals but noone at "A Level".

Jimmy mentioned the car and its forum would be more suited to the Vintage Section these days, in a previous post.

All is dead quiet on the Predator these days.

In fact, if someone wants to buy 2 X10's, they are more than welcome to them. One is brand new assembled, not a scratch or mark on it. the other used for 1 race meeting and has bits taken, used as a spare care.

I have no idea what I even want for them, £100 sound fair?

[manic]

I give you £100 for the pair. pm me your details

[/tobys]

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115504

[franki]

I hope that isn't the end !!! Note to teame Xtreme I would be more than happy yo take distribution of the pred on !

[MHeadling]

The Pred's still going strong, popped into Xtreme hq today and 3 new kits going out the door.

The new car will run alongside it I imagine as 2 different beasts

[franki]

thats good news

[pieterke]

Yes I'm also hoping that.
I don't need big updates on the pred but just a continued availability of spares in the future.

[restimax]

pred is pred design, pred project... no other...the first pred at euro's 96 in austria drived from kevin moore (4th at final A and 3 pred in that final)is very similar to my x11...this car is a piece of story...:wub

[zoomzoombang]

The Pred's still going strong, popped into Xtreme hq today and 3 new kits going out the door.

The new car will run alongside it I imagine as 2 different beasts

just hope the town is really big enough...