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Lee
04-06-2008, 07:48 AM
What is it and why?

I am really split between the two, but i will go for 4wd, i think the added grip and the extra speed of the cars makes them more rewarding to drive for me :)

V-Rossi
04-06-2008, 07:50 AM
Yup 4wd for me as well. Now with the 501X, but in the future with the Aero hopefully. 2wd is nice, but I'm missing something there, a 4wd looks better too (imo).
In onroad it is 12th scale for sure.

Chris Doughty
04-06-2008, 08:15 AM
I love 4WD, probably because I am not so good at 2WD.

I prefer racing both classes when running on dirt with 'american' style tires like Proline and Losi

trekkerkk
04-06-2008, 08:29 AM
ive always preferred 2wd as my dodgy driving style seems to lend itself to 2wd:thumbsup:

trekkker

Lee Martin
04-06-2008, 08:33 AM
Im currently swaying the way of 4wd im afraid, having always been a 2wd geezer...but now i jus love my B44.....

Even better on dirt!

DCM
04-06-2008, 08:34 AM
I have always wanted to do 4wd, and now with LiPo and brushless it makes it sooooo affordable to be fast!

telboy
04-06-2008, 08:36 AM
Prefering 2wd as I seem to get better results with that class that 4wd.

I think you get a better satisfaction when you get it right too.

jobo_ph
04-06-2008, 09:22 AM
I prefer 2WD buggy class, too, so far... Visually, I like how a 2WD buggy runs on the track and I seem to find it easier to understand/get-in-tune with my B4's track behavior and drive it better/faster.

Not closing my door on 4WD, though, which I also like. I just need to learn to improve my reflexes vis-a-vis TX inputs and get used to a 4WD's faster behavior on the track and try to get more win results.

David Church
04-06-2008, 09:40 AM
I voted for 4wd because I like the grip, but 2wd is also very fun, unless it's very slippery...

Scouser
04-06-2008, 10:09 AM
I voted 4wd because for me, 2wd loses all of its fun factor when it starts to rain and it simply becomes a PITA. The 4wd class in Southport is also a great laugh and has some great races. Wierdly, I also prefer to work on a 4wd and prefer the way they look too!:confused:

josh_smaxx
04-06-2008, 10:15 AM
I prefer 2wd, dont know why, maybe its just the way they drive and how much more competative the racing seems to me, i always seem to have better racing and closer racing in 2wd to 4wd.

Lew
04-06-2008, 10:15 AM
4wds alot easier and is good fun... :)

Mike Hudson
04-06-2008, 10:27 AM
I like 2wd as it's more challenging and find it more rewarding when you get it right, found most 2wd races are cleaner than 4wd also, prefer the looks of 2wd too

Nick Goodall
04-06-2008, 10:30 AM
2wd for me has always been the better class, on dirt 4wd is awesome but i always thought on high grip it was a bit flat out / on the edge and generally just not as smooth and flowing as 2wd........

I just love the way 2wd cars jump and as someone else said i think it's easier to get the set-up dialled as you seem to get more feedback from a 2wd car, and subtle changes like links etc make more difference then 4wd....

ben
04-06-2008, 10:30 AM
I voted 4WD. But i do enjoy 2wd. Lee there should of been a both option lol. 4wd just seems to be so much quicker to me.

ben

ashleyb4
04-06-2008, 10:46 AM
2wd for me ive always preffered 2wd just seems so much more rewarding and natural.

A

RogerM
04-06-2008, 01:11 PM
A few years back I'd have said 2wd but the B4 changed that ... to the point I stopped racing 1/10th off road all together!!

4wd from that point on really. I always loved the Preds and the ZX5-SP is just sublime!!!

That said, now I've got it sorted out, there isn't much wrong with the RB5 so am finding myself heading back in the 2wd direction of preference!!

b4rs
04-06-2008, 01:40 PM
2wd for the simple fact ive never raced 4wd, would mind having a go sometime though

millzy
04-06-2008, 01:49 PM
A few years back I'd have said 2wd but the B4 changed that ... to the point I stopped racing 1/10th off road all together!!

4wd from that point on really. I always loved the Preds and the ZX5-SP is just sublime!!!

That said, now I've got it sorted out, there isn't much wrong with the RB5 so am finding myself heading back in the 2wd direction of preference!!

what crap!!

sorry but when the b4 was due out you where the first to go on and on about how you had worked out the camber angles and C.O.G rates and how it was going to be the best car ever . you where allways on b4.com the same as me wating and waiting for Dom to get one and then in April 02 you me and Butch paid a bit extra to get ours the wednesday befor any one else and ran them at the RRC1 at kiddy

ive seen you race for over 7years and you change and blame cars more than any one I know, do you ever blame your slef or the fact you fiddle with set ups to get around your driving issues and not learn to drive better?

to read you dribble is ok but to read you blame a TOY PLASTIC CAR for you almost giving up racing is more Bull than Gordan borwns 10p tax scrap

burgie
04-06-2008, 01:52 PM
dude - you take a seat on that fence there!

:woot:

Lee
04-06-2008, 01:52 PM
I believe you have just been told roger :lol:

Wraggy
04-06-2008, 01:53 PM
ha ha Millzy, thats quality :thumbsup::thumbsup:, never laughed so much in a long time ..:woot:

ashleyb4
04-06-2008, 01:54 PM
Good old millzy.

A

ben
04-06-2008, 01:57 PM
Hehe. :thumbsup:

Kopite
04-06-2008, 02:00 PM
you're my hero Millzy:thumbsup:

Kopite
04-06-2008, 02:06 PM
oh yeah, forgot to say...

i prefer 2wd cos it's easier and cheaper to maintain (tight-ass), but i'm more consistent with 4wd, probably cos it's easier to drive when conditions worsen.


However, last year, when i had a b4, i almost quit racing because of that car.

Then i got a Losi.....all of a sudden, life got better. I started getting way more attention from women, work gave me a pay rise, and my penis grew an extra metre in length. :woot::woot:

RLGfx
04-06-2008, 02:22 PM
so it actually sticks out now?

Lee
04-06-2008, 02:39 PM
I nearly quit life because of my B4, the humiliation of running it and the constant piss taking from other racers nearly tipped me over the edge.

Then i got a vision one night and i put the motor in front of the rear tower, did a little math and layed the cells out randomly and the x6 was born.

I would like to thank X factory for saving my life :lol:

RogerM
04-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Chris is right I was really looking forward to getting the B4 and I still think that the geometry should make a very responsive and agressive car, which is what I like.
It wasn't until I actualy started trying to work with it and finding I just couldn't get the weight distribution how I wanted it, I just can't deal with a random car (I admit I'm not good enough) and found the B4 to be unpredictable. Now I see that most people run a lot of extra weight in the B4 which would achieve most of what I was looking for but just wasn't the done thing back then, especially if you ran mainly stock or mild winds as I did.
It's a personal preference thing but I still don't like that car at all, and yes I have tried several other peoples (mostly running the current "standard" setups) before and after my break running rallycross.

It was responsible for me nearly giving up as I could not justify the expense of racing nationals for just one day so if I wasn't going to run 2wd I could not justify it and as I'd got to the point where nationals were making up 50% of my racing weekends a year it was the que to think about giving up.


As for chopping cars I'm not sure where you get that from. Preds from late 94 till about 2002 and Losi XX until the original XXX (for about 3 months) then AE B3 from that point on. I have tried the both the Losi 4wd cars in the past when Pred support fell away and only changed to the Yokomo when it looked like no Pred spares would be available, I actually quite liked my XXX4 but as soon as Pred spares became available I went back to what I knew best.
Before 94 I ran Kyosho 4wds and AE 2wd when racing properly and whatever I could afford in the couple of years after my father passed away.
I don't think 4 brands of car in both 2wd and 4wd over a 20+ year period is crazy!


Anyway that is totally off topic ....back to the guys poll.

Nick Goodall
04-06-2008, 04:22 PM
what crap!!

sorry but when the b4 was due out you where the first to go on and on about how you had worked out the camber angles and C.O.G rates and how it was going to be the best car ever . you where allways on b4.com the same as me wating and waiting for Dom to get one and then in April 02 you me and Butch paid a bit extra to get ours the wednesday befor any one else and ran them at the RRC1 at kiddy

ive seen you race for over 7years and you change and blame cars more than any one I know, do you ever blame your slef or the fact you fiddle with set ups to get around your driving issues and not learn to drive better?

to read you dribble is ok but to read you blame a TOY PLASTIC CAR for you almost giving up racing is more Bull than Gordan borwns 10p tax scrap

I'm sorry but Millz, you have made some seriously good points :lol:

How can Roger actually have found the B4 to be THAT bad? The simple fact is "most" people still run one and from what i can tell have done so for a number of years, i can see how you might not like it as much as another car, or maybe find it has too much steering with the wrong set-up but the simple fact is it CANNOT in ANY circumstance be as bad as you're making out - and i don't honestly believe it's down to personal preference, the car may not have suited you perfect, but i'm sorry i just don't believe you could have possibly found it as bad as you make out. It's like all the people that don't like the Losi XXX - Any normal racer would still get it round and find it ok, some prefer it and some prefer their B4, X6 etc - However i don't believe they'd be more then 1 maybe 2 sec a lap slower if the car was set-up reasonably well......

It certainly isn't a car that's "sooo bad" you would need to think about giving up, there is only small differences between most of the cars at the end of the day so i have to agree with Millz here.....

Kopite
04-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Anyway that is totally off topic ....back to the guys poll.

the WHAT?

er... Brad Pitt? Jason Donavan?

budgio
04-06-2008, 04:36 PM
I prefer 4wd as there seems so many different buggies winning different races these days...just makes it more interesting.

Ive tried 2wd with the b4 but didnt enjoy it as much.

markwilliamson2001
04-06-2008, 07:47 PM
I used to love 4wd, but since the B4, I have now loved 2wd, its easier to maintain, cheaper and nice and easy to drive at 90% and still get results. However, now I have tried a Cat 2000/98 that is one awesome car! However I still think the B4 is very competitive in higher grip situations. I had a XX, XXX and B4, and I think the B4 just pips the XX (which when I got setup correctly was pretty damn good). I found the XXX okay in the dry, but was a pig in the wet, just didn't seem to produce any grip or steering. I admit I didn't understand as much about changing things on the car then and I do change small things on the B4 just to dial it in and its great! Maybe with more time and understanding, the XXX would have been good (it was in Millzy's hands with Craig's help at Swansea in the rain! LOL)

B4 for me then!
Mark

tony12795
05-06-2008, 08:09 AM
Stan, your my hero !!!! :woot:

EGGS !!!

the WHAT?

er... Brad Pitt? Jason Donavan?

millzy
05-06-2008, 11:02 AM
2wd is my fav class, allways has been.

4wd is good fun but i just cant drive the cars fast enough.

JohnM
05-06-2008, 12:19 PM
4wd for me, suits my style more, although after my first taste of the X-6 on Sunday, that might all be about to change:)