Belgium GP Updated brits on tour

[super__dan]

I know a few of the NE lads aren't going anymore so was just wondering who is actually going from the UK?

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris

[rcracer]

Neil Driffill.......:thumbsup:
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford

[Lee]

Who isn`t going, if i had of known i would of tried to take their places:confused:

[KevLee]

I know a few of the NE lads aren't going anymore so was just wondering who is actually going from the UK?

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris

and

Kev Lee
Jon Spencer

[bigred5765]

give us some details on it then, when is it were is it wats it cost hotels etc, pm me if you please

[burgie]

I know a few of the NE lads aren't going anymore so was just wondering who is actually going from the UK?

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris

Neil Driffill.......:thumbsup:
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford

and

Kev Lee
Jon Spencer

and

Chris Burgess
Tom Burgess
Barry Weldon
Simon Larkin
Chris Evison

:thumbsup: :p :thumbsup:

[MattW]

Matt White
Si Reeves

[rcracer]

give us some details on it then, when is it were is it wats it cost hotels etc, pm me if you please

carl i think there was a reserve list, it booked up within hours.

[OldTimer]

and me :thumbsup: so there will be full factory support for anybody driving atomic-carbon cars.

[super__dan]

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris
Neil Driffill
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford
Kev Lee
Jon Spencer
Chris Burgess
Tom Burgess
Barry Weldon
Simon Larkin
Chris Evison
Matt White
Si Reeves

Sounds good (except Kev ;) )

Carl - If you're not booked in now you won't get in, it was fully booked within a couple of hours and the waiting list pretty long. It's next month though, in Belgium ;)

[Wraggy]

and me :thumbsup: so there will be full factory support for anybody driving atomic-carbon cars.
how about for the Euro's ?? :(

[OldTimer]

Try and sort you out at Eden Park with some parts to take across.

[Body Paint]

Woohoo, only 4 weeks now :thumbsup:

[rcracer]

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris
Neil Driffill
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford
Kev Lee
Jon Spencer
Chris Burgess
Tom Burgess
Barry Weldon
Simon Larkin
Chris Evison
Matt White
Si Reeves



how many are taking the north sea ferries route ? Hull to Zeebrugge

[super__dan]

Chris and I are, on the wed night, though we are coming back from Rotterdam due to the later leaving time on the Sunday. Might not make it though, will have to leave ASAP after finals.

[rcracer]

yeah we leaving wednesday and coming back from rotterdam, ive nether drove abroad so a little nervous :(

[AmiSMB]

I am coming from down south:-

Grant Fribbens

This will be my first abroad meeting and bigger than the MK GP Meetings I have been to so far. Probably bigger than the Lex Aid event that I did back in 1988 :lol: Also Darryl Firth from Lesro will be coming.

[Lee]

I think i will be doing the hull - holland route when i hop across for the euros, it means its shorter and i get to play on the autobahns :thumbsup:

[jimmy]

I really didn't know much about this event until it was the day for booking in, and by the time I'd woken up it was full! otherwise I might have come along.

[Lee]

Same here jimmy, the first thing i heard was that it was full

[rcracer]

Jimmy you have a PM :)

[super__dan]

Neil, just follow us on the other side and you'll be fine. At least there are 5 of us on the ferry to have a few beers with :)

Jim, I can't say enough good things about this event, the track and the organisers are ace. I hope it doesn't rain though as I'll be screwed for tyres :(

What about our European friends going, Raphael, Olivier???

[Gayo]

Thanks Dan, we'll be here for sure! I'll be running the Mid44 and the X-6.

I will be here from thursday:woot:, fingers crossed for the weather:)

[Garry Driffill]

Dan whats the score on tyres if it rains?

[super__dan]

We get off the overnight ferry at 8am on Thursday so hope to be on track for 10.30am at the latest ;)

Garry, last year when it was a bit wet on the Thursday we ran green BB pins which were good, however I don't have any so hope there is a shop with stock just incase.

[rcracer]

Neil, just follow us on the other side and you'll be fine. At least there are 5 of us on the ferry to have a few beers with :)



cheers Dan ;)

[OldTimer]

Anybody got a idea what 4wd fronts to use ? i am thinking 2wd minipins.

[nitrokillah]

Yep front 2wd mini pins are what most people use.
Or cut 4wd.
The surface and Layout Has been redone. so there is plenty of grip.

[super__dan]

Jonathan,

I'd take something a bit more tame too, last year Ellis, Matt Benfield, Chris Long and I all made the A with stagger ribs on the front. They are a great qualifying tyre though ultimatly didn't have the pace in the finals to defend a line so we went back to pins with varying results.

I'm taking staggers, minis and pins this year just in case. Tyre wear is very low so you don't need loads of tyres.

[janus_77]

Jonathan,

I'd take something a bit more tame too, last year Ellis, Matt Benfield, Chris Long and I all made the A with stagger ribs on the front. They are a great qualifying tyre though ultimatly didn't have the pace in the finals to defend a line so we went back to pins with varying results.

I'm taking staggers, minis and pins this year just in case. Tyre wear is very low so you don't need loads of tyres.

a dremel is your friend.........;)

[stefke]

remember : cut and shut tyres are no longer allowed.

The safest bet is to use staggered ribs at the front.

I also used 2wd slim minipins on a wide 4wd rim. this gives more front end grip compared to the staggered but is less agressive then full 4wd front minipins. also always cut the outer rows of pins

[Chrislong]

Is it too soon to look for a weather forecast?

[stefke]

Is it too soon to look for a weather forecast?

:confused::confused::lol::lol:

[Reevsey]

you are a nutter Chris:o:o:o

They can't even get this weekends weather forecast right let alone one for a months time............

Any way i am really looking forward to the GP, i think this meeting is the main reason why i still race electric.......:thumbsup: Must be all the practice i get in out there.......:thumbsup:

[super__dan]

Si, You must be about an inch shorter after the 4 days with the amount of time you spend standing on that rostrum ;)

[Chrislong]

Did you practice much last year? :confused: :lol::confused::confused:

Soooooo, do I bring funky shorts?

[rcracer]

Soooooo, do I bring funky shorts?

yeah take the funky shorts chris i taking me trusty camera :thumbsup:

[elvo]

:confused: :lol::confused::confused:

Soooooo, do I bring funky shorts?


I think everyone'd be disappointed if you didn't.

[OldTimer]

Elvo, can you give the low down on what you think are good tyre options as your a local to the track :p i think i have a good idea now from the posts above :thumbsup:

[Reevsey]

can't remember how many laps i did last year but i guess it was 1/2 a years worth of racing in 4 days.......:lol:

It is by far my most favorite track and i am really looking forward to see the wall of death in action.

Chances are i will be doing a good bit of practice this year with 2wd/truck and potentialy a new 4wd to work on...... but no lipo otherwise you would have to drag me off the rostrum!!!

Chris i would put the shorts in mate you would be gutted if you did not have them and the sun comes out......

[elvo]

Elvo, can you give the low down on what you think are good tyre options as your a local to the track :p i think i have a good idea now from the posts above :thumbsup:


Rear: Yellow minipins for sure. I think these are insensitive to changes in insert.
2WD front: yellow stagger ribs. No inserts. (Although Janus uses them)
4WD front: staggers is safe. Too safe for me. 2WD slim minipins is probably your best bet, with plenty of rows of pins nipped off. Slim minispikes is also an option, but I think it's a slow one.
Wet: BB minipins, pink. Losi inserts are good, BB and Snee blue are better.
in-between-wet-and-dry: BB green pins.

[janus_77]

2WD front: yellow stagger ribs. No inserts. (Although Janus uses them)


the stock foam from touringcar tires work well, PitShimizu fit nice when stretched. Grip is the same, but the car reacts a bit quicker.

Stopped using them though, stopped running touringcar ( duh.... ), so ran out of inserts.

[Chrislong]

I got some new shorts to bring :thumbsup:

Is anyone runnning 4wd front tyres on the rear? :confused:

Si, I got Lipo! Will see if someone can bring food and water up to the rostrum, will be on the track for some time I think :thumbsup:

[super__dan]

Elvo, have you done much running with not cut and shut tyres now they are banned for the GP, does this change things much? I saw one of the UK lads on worn non cut and shuts and his car seemed to want to grip roll a lot (4wd).

Do you think staggers are faster than minis on a 4wd front?

[Reevsey]

well i guess as you can only run hard case and LRP don't do any hardcase i am a bit stuck on the lipo front..... will just have to have 3 chargers on the go to make sure i get enough practice in!!!:)

[super__dan]

I've got 5 packs of last years cells I plan to use for practice. Realistically they could only be used 3 times a day as at like 15 minutes a run thats nearly 4 hours continuous track time. Frankly my eyes won't take that, especially not with Chris' shorts.

PS I've bought some new jazzy shorts, they're ACE!

[janus_77]

Elvo, have you done much running with not cut and shut tyres now they are banned for the GP, does this change things much? I saw one of the UK lads on worn non cut and shuts and his car seemed to want to grip roll a lot (4wd).

Do you think staggers are faster than minis on a 4wd front?

The way to get around the Cut and Shut rule in 4wd (isn't really needed in 2wd) is to use 4wd front tires in the rear and 2wd fronts in the front. If there streched over normal wheels they become much lower than normal tires.

I sometimes use them in the rear of my 2wd aswell to get some more steering. (the white X-6 )

http://www.2wdrc.com/Gallery-2007BelgianGP/5440/slides/100b5440.jpg

[Chrislong]

The way to get around the Cut and Shut rule in 4wd (isn't really needed in 2wd) is to use 4wd front tires in the rear and 2wd fronts in the front. If there streched over normal wheels they become much lower than normal tires.

I sometimes use them in the rear of my 2wd aswell to get some more steering. (the white X-6 )

http://www.2wdrc.com/Gallery-2007BelgianGP/5440/slides/100b5440.jpg

Cool! :thumbsup: good picture too!

[elvo]

Elvo, have you done much running with not cut and shut tyres now they are banned for the GP, does this change things much? I saw one of the UK lads on worn non cut and shuts and his car seemed to want to grip roll a lot (4wd).

Do you think staggers are faster than minis on a 4wd front?


With 2WD slim minipins stretched over a wide and large enough rim, and enough rows nipped off, it should be OK. I don't know if anyone has ever tested blue front slim minipins? Might be the ticket for racers with griprollophobia.
I haven't driven 4WD much, but I'm not a fan of staggers in 4WD. The diameter is too small, the front wheels don't have enough pull out of the corners. Might as well be driving a 2WD :-D


About 4Wd front minipins on wide rims at rear: I'm not a huge fan. unlike Janus, I approach corners like a real panzy, braking beforehand, etc... I found that with the sidewalls all straight and messed up, sideways compliance is basically gone. I wasn't happy with on-power powering-out-of-turns behaviour either. (along the hedge etc)
But they do give more rotation. Bit abrupt though.

[janus_77]

About 4Wd front minipins on wide rims at rear: I'm not a huge fan. unlike Janus, I approach corners like a real panzy, braking beforehand, etc... I found that with the sidewalls all straight and messed up, sideways compliance is basically gone. I wasn't happy with on-power powering-out-of-turns behaviour either. (along the hedge etc)
But they do give more rotation. Bit abrupt though.

In 4wd is probably a better option, But you'd need to remember your putting on lower tires, so you can't just swap them and expect it to work, You'd need to at least compensate on driving height and maybe take 2 or 3 packs to adapt your setup if your used to run normal unmodified tires.

In 2wd I have to admit this is not the thing to do for everyone. Again you'd need a few packs to perfect your setup (for me is rear ride height, and go -5wt in the rear shocks). But even then it's for the people who don't like to use breaks and/or like a bit more ...errrmmm... hostile car. So for the people who are contemplating minipin or spikes in the front.......

[Fiddybux]

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris
Neil Driffill
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford
Kev Lee
Jon Spencer
Chris Burgess
Tom Burgess
Barry Weldon
Simon Larkin
Chris Evison
Matt White
Si Reeves

Sounds good (except Kev ;) )

Carl - If you're not booked in now you won't get in, it was fully booked within a couple of hours and the waiting list pretty long. It's next month though, in Belgium ;)

And me....

Russell Dyson

Although I'm just going along for the beer mainly as I'm way way down on the reserves list.

It's gonna be sweet though. :drool:

[paulc]

hi guys how many sets of tyres are you taking over to belguim how many sets do you expect to use while your there over the 4 days because if there lasting only 3-4 runs going to need a fair few sets

i take it there will be a model shop or two there with plenty of stock

cheers paul:)

[janus_77]

i take it there will be a model shop or two there with plenty of stock

cheers paul:)

MCM should be on site from fridays to supply tires and parts.

the 3 to 4 runs estimate is for full-on racing. In practise you can use sets a lot longer.

[rcracer]

what about pitting, do people take gazebos / tents ?

[Chrislong]

Yeh, take Gazebo or tent. The track is kinda in the woods, so pitting is within the tree's, its really cool though.

As for tyres Paul, take all your part worns and thrash them through practice, then perhaps start to try new by the end of Friday just to make sure the car doesn't bite you when it matters. Won't need many new ones.

And don't forget, everyone gets 4 rouns of qualifying and 3 leg finals.

[Garry Driffill]

I cant wait to get there now and have a look, the videos looks ace. Pitting in the woods sounds cool too :woot:..

Im glad LIPO is allowed too :D

[burgie]

[quote=Chrislong;131484]Yeh, take Gazebo or tent. The track is kinda in the woods, so pitting is within the tree's, its really cool though.
quote]

LOL - did you get that idea from your hotel room Chris? :p

[rcracer]

Yeh, take Gazebo or tent. The track is kinda in the woods, so pitting is within the tree's, its really cool though.

And don't forget, everyone gets 4 rouns of qualifying and 3 leg finals.

cheers chris ;), been in touch with willy he's going to sort me out with the results rounds/finals for a race report for jimmy :)

[rowley]

With Lipo allowed have they now got a bigger rostrum? Sooooo many people always want to practice at the same time and there is never ebough space on the rostrum!!!

[Garry Driffill]

we going down for thursday and friday practice, plenty of track time :thumbsup:

[elvo]

With Lipo allowed have they now got a bigger rostrum? Sooooo many people always want to practice at the same time and there is never ebough space on the rostrum!!!


Usually, the number of people on the rostrum is more or less equal to the number of cars on the track. Increasing rostrum width alone is not a solution.

[rowley]

Heh heh, only kidding.......

I miss the GP, I think I have lost count to the times I have been but with other commitments it can't all be done. Good luck to all that are going, definately a great track and you will all love it!!!!!!!

[flipside]

With lipo it's becoming a problem... Each pack takes too long, so there will be long rows of people like last year!

for example practise from 8 to 20H, so 12 hours in total. Average 10 minutes per pack (probably a lot more...). 720 minutes / 10 = 72 packs. 10 people simultaneously so that is 720 packs. 80 people in 2WD, 60 4WD and 10 trucks, so +-100 people wanting to practise. 720packs/100=7,2 packs per person over a time span of 12 hours :-) People want to drive at least 1 time per hour, usually a lot more, so the waiting line should be huge :-)

[Tris]

Does anyone know if practice is allowed before friday? I recieved that info email and it only states free practice on friday.

Thanx
tris

[flipside]

yeah officially it's friday... Last year some freaks were there all week long!

[super__dan]

I beleive it's usual practice to go at any time, I certainly plan on being there from Thursday! Last year most people arrived on Thursday so Friday practice was the one that was really busy

[Tris]

Cool. Thanks! Think I might be there for thursday too...

[Chrislong]

I can see what you are saying about Lipo, but I can't see it. As last year with cells, I was getting 10+ minutes practice at a time (til dumped) and some times I had Chazz waiting with another car so I was on for 20+ minutes or perhaps 30mins at a time!! mental.

This year I have Lipo, but I don't want to run these flat as it damages them, so I will time each run to be exactly 10 minutes, so I won't be running til dumped. And I won't be staying on for two runs, as having 1 Lipo pack per car mean I won't have a lot of cells charged at once to keep going up like last year - got to keep going back to charge them.

Proof is in the pudding, we'll only find out on Friday how busy practice will be. :lol: I'll try and cain it Thursday so I can be sensible on Friday an not hog a spot on the rostrum.

[flipside]

Yeah true.

maybe we should all be a bit fair and practise 5 - 8 mins or something. After all, by then you prob know if your setup change is good or bad. Of course getting to know the track takes some time too...

[Chrislong]

Realistically, practicing for more than 5-8 minutes and the car suffers with heat, tyres worn and your brain has probably stopped pumping out the moves on the thumbs as well as it should :lol:

[rcracer]

your brain has probably stopped pumping out the moves on the thumbs as well as it should :lol:

mine does that before the 5 mins chris :lol:

[CharlieF]

Guys.
A word of caution! I have seen some very good drivers practice themselves out on Thursday/Friday in Belgium so that when it mattered on Saturday and Sunday their heads were elsewhere???
Yes get to know the track and how to get round quick but keep something for the competition proper, the oposition will be following the quick cars round in practice so they will know where you are fast!!

[flipside]

Here's a small onboard video from the track :-)

I've put it at half speed to make it a bit more viewable...

http://www.rc-offroad.be/pictures/2008_06_08_practise_mbv/onboard.htm

[Garry Driffill]

I think it would be very good if we had heat practice at least on the firday but extended to 8 - 10 mins max per heat all day, this way things stay controlled to some sence and everyone has a fair chance and a very similer amount of track time. I know that there will be 6 heats in 4wd that will be a very long time meaning 10 mins of every hour youll be on the track but isnt that enough?

Thursday will be great and hopfully not too busy for us lads who havnt been yet to learn the track curface and find a set-up with the right tyres for us as there seems to be varied opinions on them. Plus we wont be throwing away practice heats with a bad choice on set-up having to wait for each heat to run :lol:

[Chrislong]

Garry, no offense bud - don't make suggestions for something you have not yet been to please. The system works well, Willy & Liliane have a good idea of how to make it so good. Its a chilled out meeting-come-holiday while enjoying RC cars, and it works.. you'll love it.:thumbsup:

[MattW]

Charlie, can't think of anyone that would do that :lol:

[Garry Driffill]

Garry, no offense bud - don't make suggestions for something you have not yet been to please. The system works well, Willy & Liliane have a good idea of how to make it so good. Its a chilled out meeting-come-holiday while enjoying RC cars, and it works.. you'll love it.:thumbsup:

Nah no offence taken at all Chris it just started to sound like it was going to be very busy indeed. Ive heard how well Willy and Liliane run this meeting so ive no doubt it will run very well and be very organised :)

[Chrislong]

Too right Garry, you'll love it. Thats why it sold out quicker than Spicegirls. :)

[Reevsey]

Guys.
A word of caution! I have seen some very good drivers practice themselves out on Thursday/Friday in Belgium so that when it mattered on Saturday and Sunday their heads were elsewhere???
Yes get to know the track and how to get round quick but keep something for the competition proper, the oposition will be following the quick cars round in practice so they will know where you are fast!!

can't be me as i only fit in the OK drivers not the very good category......:thumbsup:

[mw02veg]

lol reevesy im suprised u havent bought a light to go on the front of ur car for a bit of nite time practice or infared googles lol :thumbsup:.

to be honest its a shame that ppl are commenting about practice times and changng the set-up of the meeting its kinda out of place (not to offend anyone) wait till u get there and see how the the open practice runs. u got think 2 whole days of open practice theres plenty of time and its not as if u will empty each pack out. we found the best way was to give it a couple of minutes round the track pull it of and change the car try something different. its a unique opportunity to try and test different options u would not normally do.

plus u will love the whole experience everyone came a way with a smile on there face if a little tired lol. im gutted im missing it but sure i will be bk next year and see if i can make the top 3 wasn't far off at all last year :)

[super__dan]

If it were controlled practice it would detract from the feel of the meeting. If it ain't broke .........................

[Garry Driffill]

As i said to Chris it just come across like it was going to be busy..

[elvo]

lol reevesy im suprised u havent bought a light to go on the front of ur car for a bit of nite time practice


Wouldn't be the first....

[elvo]

Dan Greenwood
Chris Long
Craig Harris
Neil Driffill
Garry Driffill
Paul Crawford
Kev Lee
Jon Spencer
Chris Burgess
Tom Burgess
Barry Weldon
Simon Larkin
Chris Evison
Matt White
Si Reeves




Is Glyn W coming along? He needs to bring a metric tonne of blue inserts!

[MattW]

I don't think he is, but not 100% sure.

[janus_77]

Is Glyn W coming along? He needs to bring a metric tonne of blue inserts!

2nd that....... inserts and lots of them :thumbsup:

[matdodd]

Glyn isnt going this year but if people want inserts, im sure I can get a load of glyn to bring with us :)

[Chrislong]

If someone can let him know of the need, then he may be able to send them with someone?

If not, then may I suggest Edit foams? The purple ones are bang on.

[elvo]

Glyn isnt going this year but if people want inserts, im sure I can get a load of glyn to bring with us :)


10 pairs of rears please.

[Gayo]

Are those inserts so good? If so, I want some too, lets say 5 rears and 3 4wd fronts.

[matdodd]

If people want them ill give glyn a ring & bring some extras with me I need to pick some up for myself anyway!

[janus_77]

Glyn isnt going this year but if people want inserts, im sure I can get a load of glyn to bring with us :)

10 front, 15 rear or something like that would be great

[Garry Driffill]

Not long to go now lads ! :thumbsup:

What sort of set-up do people run on there cars there just to get a general idea ?

[janus_77]

Not long to go now lads ! :thumbsup:

What sort of set-up do people run on there cars there just to get a general idea ?

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=131521&postcount=77

Can be made a bit more agressive, for those who want / need to.

[freud]

Glyn isnt going this year but if people want inserts, im sure I can get a load of glyn to bring with us :)

20 Paires Of Rear Please Mattdodd ;)

[Chrislong]

Gaz, just start with your current setup. it it works now, it'll work then, and if you need to adjust it you have a bucket load of time to practice>change>practice>change

Chris

[super__dan]

Are all the brits that are hotelling it staying in the ETAP?

Who is staying for Sunday night too? We weren't but realised we wouldn't make the Sunday night ferry home so are staying now, who's for a session in the bar? ;)

[rcracer]

yeah we in the ETAP, did you you rebook your return journey Dan ? we still going from rotterdam as it was £35 cheaper than zeebruge.

[super__dan]

Ball, Neil I meant to reply to your PM. We're now coming back from Zebrugge on the Monday night so up for a few beers Sunday night. :)

[matdodd]

Me & Tony are in the Etap :thumbsup:

[Body Paint]

We're in the Etap till Monday :thumbsup:

[rcracer]

Wow the brits are out in force :thumbsup:

Grand Prix Kampenhout 4 - 5 - 6 July 2008

We have received entries from:
Belgium: 19 in 2wd, 9 in 4wd, 4 in truck,
Denmark: 7 in 2wd, 5 in 4wd, 1 in truck,
France: 9 in 2wd, 11 in 4wd, 1 in truck,
Germany: 11 in 2wd, 8 in 4wd, 1 in truck,
The Netherlands: 6 in 2wd,
Scotland: 1 in 2wd, 1 in 4wd,
Spain: 1 in 2wd, 1 in 4wd,
United Kingdom: 26 in 2wd, 25 in 4wd, 3 in truck.

[Chrislong]

Its getting closer!!! Whats the forecast?

[Body Paint]

How come Scotland get a mention but not Wales.... shakes head :lol:

[bigred5765]

alot of drunkin brits, lmao only kidding good luck boys bring home the gold and the silver and the bronze lol

[Garry Driffill]

:D its gone be ace! carl ill bring home the Tin ;)

[matdodd]

How many are coming from Wales then mate?

[flipside]

Very dry here, stays dry as far as the forecast goes :-)

http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-15day.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&locCode=EUR|BE|BE002|KAMPENHOUT&metric=1

Imagine that forecast would be correct, sounds great! No rain until monday after the GP, start looking for some steering as it will be very very dusty if that's true :-)

[matdodd]

When are people geting there?

[Garry Driffill]

Me, My dad, Paul Crawford, Chris Long, Dan Greenwood and anouther dude are going on the tuesday night ferry from Hull.

[Body Paint]

How many are coming from Wales then mate?

same amount as are coming from Scotland :p

I'll be there about 11am Monday 30th and coming back the following Monday at 11am :)

[matdodd]

:o Thats some serious track time your getin mate!

[flipside]

why don't you come on sunday and participate in our national? :-)

[matdodd]

Coz he will be at are National sunday :D

[rcracer]

Me, My dad, Paul Crawford, Chris Long, Dan Greenwood and anouther dude are going on the tuesday night ferry from Hull.

you can go tuesday night garry i'm booked on the wednesday night one :lol:

[flipside]

I see :-)

[Body Paint]

:o Thats some serious track time your getin mate!

Need to do some sight seeing aswell, keep the wifey happy :D, and not to forget a little trip to Amsterdam :drool:

[Reevsey]

Me, My dad, Paul Crawford, Chris Long, Dan Greenwood and anouther dude are going on the tuesday night ferry from Hull.

Chris you should be able to compete with me this year on the practice stakes as you will be out there on the track from wednesday i guess??

Myself and Matt get a ferry Thursday am so should be at the track for 12 to 1 on the thursday, should be good this year looking forward to the changed track especially the wall of death!!:p

[super__dan]

We get to Zebrugge about 8am Thursday morning so I hope to have my first sighter lap by 11am at the LATEST ;)

[Chrislong]

We get to Zebrugge about 8am Thursday morning so I hope to have my first sighter lap by 11am at the LATEST ;)

All my Lipo's will be charged: Priority will be > Arrive > Practice 2wd > Practice Truck > Practice 4wd > go and unload the car > charge (x3) > practice some more > put the shorts on.

[GRIFF55]

Make sure you load ya van with lots of booze while your there Craig!!

[Reevsey]

All my Lipo's will be charged: Priority will be > Arrive > Practice 2wd > Practice Truck > Practice 4wd > go and unload the car > charge (x3) > practice some more > put the shorts on.

well hopfully with the weather forecast you will need the shorts:lol:

[rcracer]

All my Lipo's will be charged: Priority will be > Arrive > Practice 2wd > Practice Truck > Practice 4wd > go and unload the car > charge (x3) > practice some more > put the shorts on.

whats after put shorts on chris > find were beer tent will be pitched :lol:

[burgie]

I can't believe you are all staying away from the park in a hotel.....what a bunch of lightweights :lol: :p

[Chrislong]

well hopfully with the weather forecast you will need the shorts:lol:

Im really hoping so, it'll feel like a holiday then. :lol:

[rcracer]

I can't believe you are all staying away from the park in a hotel.....what a bunch of lightweights :lol: :p

we want to sleep :p

[burgie]

we want to sleep :p

Well, there is that I suppose......I slept soundly there last year, all the way from about 3am until just after 1pm on the Sunday :blush:

[super__dan]

I know it's not in the spirit to stay in a hotel but I'm completely no sleep intolerant, and with loads of us staying in the ETAP and the French guys we know there too, it should be well good! :)

[Chrislong]

Well, there is that I suppose......I slept soundly there last year, all the way from about 3am until just after 1pm on the Sunday :blush:

Your not selling this camping/sleeping mallarky very well Chris, sounds like a good enough reason to get a hotel.... like we have... :p

[Lee]

Is Chazz coming over this year my X factory brothers :)

[tony12795]

I was thinking of bringing a gazebo for me and Doddy, Will there be power sockets for us to charge or do we bring car batts with us:thumbdown:, whats do us brits do normally around the pitting?

[mw02veg]

last year pitting was catered for with 2 large army style tents and powered by 2 massive generators!! was a nice touch. wasnt expecting it though so we took our genny and gazibo thus meaning taking less booze home!! i must recommend the chips and mayo they served up during the day was top notch grub :drool:

[burgie]

Your not selling this camping/sleeping mallarky very well Chris, sounds like a good enough reason to get a hotel.... like we have... :p

the camping/sleeping thing wasn't the problem. it was the drink induced sleep that was the problem...

[rcracer]

last year thye pitting was catered for with 2 large army style tents and powered by 2 massive generators!! was a nice touch. wasnt expecting it though so we took our genny and gazibo thus meaning taking less booze home!! i must recommend the chips and mayo they served up during the day was top notch grub :drool:

i gather theres no guarantee of getting under the pit area and getting power :confused:

[paulc]

just the power point would do neil cos i've got a 50m extention cable:thumbsup:

[rcracer]

darnt risk not taking the genny mate.

[OldTimer]

For people running a S2 at the GP, there is now a base setup for the track on the AC website http://www.atomic-carbon.co.uk/su.html
(http://atomic-carbon.gforceimages.net/su.html)

[Reevsey]

Entry list has been updated, Mark you still going as your name is still on the list?

[matdodd]

Sorry guys Glyn hasnt had his latest order of inserts :(
So doesnt look like ill have any to bring!

[Reevsey]

what we are have to look forward to this weekend

http://www.rc-offroad.be/pictures/2008_06_08_practise_mbv/onboard.htm:p

[Garry Driffill]

Its gonna be ace :D

[stefke]

We had our nationals yesterday at the Kampenhout track.

Compared to last year, the track has become a bit more technical but it's great fun !
The new tripple-double combination is the one where you win or loose the race.

[flipside]

If anyone has extra rear b44 hubs + bearings to put on a B4, please take them with you to the GP, I wanna buy them :-)

(name is wouter wynen, if you ask any of the locals you will find me)

[paulc]

hows the weather been over there nice and sunny i hope

paul

[flipside]

yeah nice but not a clear sky :-)

wednesday and especially thursday they predict a lot of rain. Friday should be dry and saturday a small chance for some rain, altough I think it's way too early to trust that :-)

Thursday will be correct as they're saying that already from last week.

http://www.bdb.be/nl/rubriek/weerbericht/meteo/


http://www.meteoonline.be/cgi-bin/citybild?SID=06423c50be3562e185ed52512a5ca6829a8a6&PROVIDER=anwendung&WMO=06423&LANG=nl

[OldTimer]

If anyone has extra rear b44 hubs + bearings to put on a B4, please take them with you to the GP, I wanna buy them :-)

(name is wouter wynen, if you ask any of the locals you will find me)

Got hubs and bearings, do you have the b44 spacer for between the bearings, i am sure it is different than the b4 spacer ?.

[flipside]

No I don't, looking for a complete conversion, didn't realize that would be different. If anything else is different I would need that too then :-)

Thanks already!

wouter

[OldTimer]

B44 crush tube is p/n 7933 B4 is 7377, not got any B44 ones :(

[flipside]

Probably it's only different width since the mip cardan is the same, so adding some washers should do the trick, or if it's narrower then the dremel will prove its use again :-)

[Teddy truman]

http://www.rc-offroad.be/pictures/2008_06_08_practise_mbv/onboard.htm

[elvo]

http://www.rc-offroad.be/pictures/2008_06_08_practise_mbv/onboard.htm


It's a good idea to show that vid to your car, so it can memorize the track a bit :D

[Chrislong]

Does anyone who is going (or the shop) have any T4 spares? I broke a wishbone on my X-60 on Saturday, and am in need.

I have borrowed a wishbone off Richard Lowes truck (thank you Richard), but these do seem to be a fragile part and I am not confident that I will make it all day without needing another 1 atleast, and if that happens it'll be my retirement from that class. :(

Thanks
Chris

[Cooper]

today, first Brit....

and only 3 cars were present :p

Thursday--> RAIN

[sly]

Does anyone who is going (or the shop) have any T4 spares? I broke a wishbone on my X-60 on Saturday, and am in need.

I have borrowed a wishbone off Richard Lowes truck (thank you Richard), but these do seem to be a fragile part and I am not confident that I will make it all day without needing another 1 atleast, and if that happens it'll be my retirement from that class. :(

Thanks
Chris
Hanz or burgers may have some if in need on the day, as there are both booked in for trucks.
Sly

[Body Paint]

today, first Brit....

and only 3 cars were present :p

Thursday--> RAIN

Whoop whoop.... that was me :thumbsup:

Put 2 packs through each car and the track feels great, needs a little setup work but looking forward to the race. Triple gives a good overtaking opurtunity thats for sure and the new wall of death will surely end the life of a few cars, I'm mainly thinking of XX4 towers, Reeves cough Long cough Greenwood :LOL

DAN / CHRIS tables are sorted ;)

[Chrislong]

Hanz or burgers may have some if in need on the day, as there are both booked in for trucks.
Sly


LOL, kk, nobody else will have any idea who you mean, but I do. Thanks mate. :lol::lol:

[super__dan]

Space for or actual tables? White tent?

[Body Paint]

2 tables reserved in the white tent;)

[OldTimer]

What about me :o :)

Good to hear you got there safe and sound, how long from the tunnel to the track in the pimp wagon ?.

[Chrislong]

2 tables reserved in the white tent;)

Woohoo! Thanks Craig, mucho appreciated.

Hope you've discovered the wonders of Kriek, Belle Vue and any other funky beers which are gorgeous?

[elvo]

What about me :o :)

.

Sorted.

[Garry Driffill]

How many shops are normally track side and do they stock the wet tyre?

[burgie]

only one shop trackside usually, and last year the tyres they sold were all dry when you bought them.

why would they keep tyres wet?

:p:p

[Garry Driffill]

LOL ! Bugger off :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:.... Ballistics pink mini pins?

[rcracer]

today, first Brit....

and only 3 cars were present :p

Thursday--> RAIN

just watched the weather it does look like it going to be rather wet thursday :thumbdown:

[ben]

just watched the weather it does look like it going to be rather wet thursday :thumbdown:


awww cheer up neil

[rcracer]

i happy Ben :D

[OldTimer]

The forecast i saw seemed like it was going to dry up during thursday ;)

[rcracer]

fingers crossed then jonathan :thumbsup:

[OldTimer]

Well i have some BB Pink pins being delivered tomorrow just in case, you can never trust the weather men ;)

[flipside]

Some pics and a race report you will not be able to read from last sundays national at kampenhout.

http://www.rc-offroad.be/verslagen.htm

enjoy!

[matdodd]

DAN / CHRIS tables are sorted ;)

Any room in there for 2 more? :) or do we need to bring tables etc?

[Body Paint]

Any room in there for 2 more? :) or do we need to bring tables etc?

I'll see what I can sort out.

[matdodd]

Thanks mate,
Have you been down the track again today? hows the weather?

[Body Paint]

Been at the track all afternoon, it's been absolutely scorching, 28-29 degrees in the shade and if you stepped into the sunlight it was like a blow torch pointing at you. Willy marshalled a car and came back to the pits and said "the tyres on that car were actually hot:eh?:"

Absolutely no grip at all today, track was mega dusty and too hot to give any traction. I was running pins on the front of the 2wd at one point today:o

Weather is looking like turning for the worse wednesday and thursday and clear friday with showers forecast for saturday, apparently the track is gripiest after it has been cleaned by the rain, it is amazing how much dust was coming off the track today, my car, and me were filthy after practice today.

[Chrislong]

28-29 degrees in the shade

You want to stay out the shade then, ouch! [BOOM BOOM]

[elvo]

. Willy marshalled a car and came back to the pits and said "the tyres on that car were actually hot:eh?:"

Absolutely no grip at all today, track was mega dusty and too hot to give any traction.


We need reverse tyre warmers!

I wonder if the old yellow compound tyres might work better when it's blowtochingly hot...

[matdodd]

Been at the track all afternoon, it's been absolutely scorching, 28-29 degrees in the shade and if you stepped into the sunlight it was like a blow torch pointing at you. Willy marshalled a car and came back to the pits and said "the tyres on that car were actually hot:eh?:"

Absolutely no grip at all today, track was mega dusty and too hot to give any traction. I was running pins on the front of the 2wd at one point today:o

Weather is looking like turning for the worse wednesday and thursday and clear friday with showers forecast for saturday, apparently the track is gripiest after it has been cleaned by the rain, it is amazing how much dust was coming off the track today, my car, and me were filthy after practice today.

Great it should be raining by the time we arrive tomorrow then :thumbsup: just like at home!

[matdodd]

have you ever tryed losi tyres Elvo?

[Body Paint]

Apparently pink pins work in the wet and greens in the damp, just like Kiddy so I bet losi's would be spot on a roasty hot track

[Chris Doughty]

silver block head fronts and silver sprint rears!

[matdodd]

maybe there is a use for all them tyres in the loft after all :thumbsup:

[dan_kitty]

craig, andy says fill your van with beer..

hope you have a good one out there;)

[OldTimer]

BB pins arrived this morning :thumbsup:

[Body Paint]

I'm going to drink all the beer, there wont be any left for andy :p

JC, took me nearly 3 hours from chunnel to hotel, but I was a bit nervous at first and followed the lorries most of the way. And we stopped twice on aswell. Tip of the day, if you stop for a pee either take some change to the bogs as they charge you to use them in some places, or, do what the lorry drivers do and piss up the wheel of your car.

[elvo]

have you ever tryed losi tyres Elvo?

Yes. No!

Are sprints still in production BTW?

[Body Paint]

PS. Diesel is 1.30 euros a litre so you might want to plan it so you fill up while your here in you run the Derv, petrol is more expensive and not much cheaper than uk, about 1.45 euro I think.

[Body Paint]

Yes. No!

Are sprints still in production BTW?

It has to absoloutly boiling before they work on astro, the heat did get the dust up today so that may not help the losi tyres

[elvo]

, but I was a bit nervous at first and followed the lorries most of the way. ,.

That is NOT the way to drive!


or, do what the lorry drivers do and piss up the wheel of your car.

You've got alloy rims, right? Should be allright then. Might even increase traction.

When they charge, I usually piss up the side of the building...

[matdodd]

ye i think they still maked sprints im sure ive got some to

[MattW]

Maybe rears, but don't think we could get any fronts when we did last Euros in Italy.

[MattW]

Just had a look on their site, and no signs of any sprints. In fact they don't make Ifmar Pin fronts any more either - only block head, taper pin and stud 4wd fronts these days.

[matdodd]

......

[janus_77]

Sorted.

Your not giving away my and Q's table are you :eh?:

Absolutely no grip at all today, track was mega dusty and too hot to give any traction. I was running pins on the front of the 2wd at one point today:o

Somebody bring a hoover ?

[Gayo]

I wonder if the old yellow compound tyres might work better when it's blowtochingly hot...

What do you mean? Yellow compound changed over the years?

[elvo]

What do you mean? Yellow compound changed over the years?

Yes. It got softer.

[rcracer]

just popping to say track and venue is ace :thumbsup:

[freud]

ATOMIC CARBON ON FORCE @ THE GP :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

ATOMIZED , S4 ,S2 everywhere incredible :woot::thumbsup: :wub

[GRIFF55]

How are the brits getting on???????????

[rcracer]

How are the brits getting on???????????

well we have all got a towels if that counts

[Dadandson]

Hello,
The live on the GP of Belgium it's http://www.automodelisme.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=371142#371142

[strobe]

6 UK drivers and 1 from Wales in the 4wd A Final.:thumbsup:

[James]

Good work boys and girls, keeping the British end up :)

[ben]

yep. :thumbsup: Well done to all the english crew.

[YoungChazz]

And truck too! The X - 60 rocks...

[Dadandson]

Hello

The picture to the GP of Belgium, 4X2 (http://picasaweb.google.be/JPDadandson/GPKampenhout20084X2)and 4X4 and Truck (http://picasaweb.google.be/JPDadandson/GPKampenhout20084X4)
@+ JP

[flipside]

6 UK drivers and 1 from Wales in the 4wd A Final.:thumbsup:

but don't mention the 2WD hehe :-)

[stefke]

but don't mention the 2WD hehe :-)

I was thinking exactly the same.

So you have internet acces in Italy then ?

Well, I was happy with my 4wd B-final

[flipside]

yes campanille rules!

[stefke]

double post. sorry.

[Reevsey]

We will be back and i am sure in we can do better than 2 in the 2wd A!! we will probably get more than 2 in the 2wd A at the euros than at the GP:thumbsup:

[OldTimer]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
http://www.gforceimages.net/report24_2.jpg

And i like Mr Dodds new sponsor "Slone's nard snafts" lol.

[stefke]

We will be back and i am sure in we can do better than 2 in the 2wd A!!


Then let's hope this wasn't the last edition given Lilliane's retirement. :(

[matdodd]

but don't mention the 2WD hehe :-)

We will be back, an Im sure we can do better next time! :)

[RLGfx]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
http://www.gforceimages.net/report24_2.jpg

And i like Mr Dodds new sponsor "Slone's nard snafts" lol.

I reckon someone else will approve too.... assuming that it should say hardshafts that is.... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[matdodd]

Its actually, Schlongs hard shafts! There the way forward :thumbsup:

[Body Paint]

LMFAO!!!

I can't beleive it's over already and I'm back to work in the morning :(

Was so good, a bit gutted I made such a mess of 2wd but the whole experience was superb and well done to everyone from MBV, THANKS!!

[rcracer]

Been in about a hour had a great time, thanks to willie and lilliane and all the others for holding such a great meeting, had some good laughs too :thumbsup:...BTW mr schlong you was on the wrong ferry we had a hottie on for the live act and was forced to drink leffe :p

[tony12795]

SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHlongs hard shafts !!!!!!!!!!!!

Well its all over and had a fantastic time. I would deffo do it again!!!

I also would like to thank MBV for a well run meeting and AC for the team support:thumbsup:.

Tony P

[rcracer]

Every roundabout should have a FISTER :thumbsup:

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=377

and one of hundreds of photos :)

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=378

[rcracer]

oh yeah and at 8.50pm last night while i was still on the ferry i became a grandad :thumbsup:

[Garry Driffill]

What an ace event really enjoyed every second of it. The track was awsome!, Big thanks to Jonathan for lending us his Sat Nav :thumbsup:

Leffe is ace :lol:

[bigred5765]

congrats to all the team,well done lads, O and grand dad racer lol
how did the truck do Chris,?

[rcracer]

congrats to all the team,well done lads, O and grand dad racer lol
how did the truck do Chris,?

grand dad racer pmsl :lol: i like that

[tony12795]

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Leffe !!!!!!!!!!

[sparrow.2]

Best race I've ever been to! :thumbsup:

Track ace, race control friendly, people great, waffles and pancakes brilliant.

Can't wait for next years! Hope they do one!

[sparrow.2]

...and one of hundreds of photos :)

Put them online pleeeeeeeaaase! :)

[rcracer]

Put them online pleeeeeeeaaase! :)

soon as a i have done a little report and sent the pics to jimmy they will be on here :thumbsup:

[Reevsey]

Great photo of my 4wd Neil!!:thumbsup:

[ben]

didnt chris finish 2nd with the X-60?

ben

[Garry Driffill]

Yea he did, it was almost as fast as Jonathans Atomic B44 :woot:

[stefke]

Yea he did, it was almost as fast as Jonathans Atomic B44 :woot:

Kampenhout is one of those tracks where a 4wd isn't that much faster than a 2wd.

[OldTimer]

Yea he did, it was almost as fast as Jonathans Atomic B44 :woot:

Never :lol:

[Chrislong]

Not in a straight line it wasn't, Jonathan B44 was just insane! God help anyone infront of that machine going onto the straight! :lol:

Yeh I finished 2nd with the X-60, truck racing was real good fun, a lot different to buggies. I'll be doing it again! :thumbsup:

[Garry Driffill]

Never :lol:

LI-PO-LISHOUS! :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

nice one chris

[Body Paint]

Kampenhout is one of those tracks where a 4wd isn't that much faster than a 2wd.

What was FTQ in 2wd Saturday? I know I was a second a lap faster with my 4wd and I could lap consistently at that speed, unlike my 2wd driving :blush:

Shlongs X-60 looked special, I was well impressed

[MattW]

http://www.redrc.net/2008/07/simon-reeves-wins-2008-belgian-gp/#more-10431

damm fine photographer on duty :thumbsup:

[Body Paint]

hmmm... I wonder who that could have been Matt :lol:

[matdodd]

Id just like to thank willie, lilliane & the rest of the team for running such a good meeting & I hope to see everyone there again next year!

[elvo]

Every roundabout should have a FISTER :thumbsup:





Every country should have a Wankdorf

[matdodd]

How you geting on at the euros Elvo?

[elvo]

How you geting on at the euros Elvo?

I could tell you, but then this post's content would not be suitable for a public forum. :mad: Ask J or C.

[matdodd]

Ah ok :eh?: Well good luck for tomorrow!

[OldTimer]

Id just like to thank willie, lilliane & the rest of the team for running such a good meeting & I hope to see everyone there again next year!

Ditto :thumbsup:

[dave p hall]

What an ace event really enjoyed every second of it. The track was awsome!, Big thanks to Jonathan for lending us his Sat Nav :thumbsup:

Leffe is ace :lol:

look's like you all had fun m8:lol:any major mechanical's between the boy's from ull:woot:

[Garry Driffill]

I didnt break anything at all dave :cool:, maybe my bank though ! :lol:

[Chrislong]

Hey guys,
On Saturday evening while I was away from the track, my Trakpower V-balancer went missing from my pit bench.

Now I appreciate somebody may have borrowed it, as I consider everyone my friend who races and I don't mind that, so I was hoping it would have come back sometime on Sunday, Willy did put calls out and have a look for me, but it has not been returned to me.

I fear it has been stolen, but before I make that decision would like to give anybody the chance to simply PM me if they have it, or know who has it, and will give my postal address to return it to me and I will be glad to see it back.

Thank you.
Chris

[Northy]

Shlongs X-60 looked special, I was well impressed

Plenty of blue Bling :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

Plenty of blue Bling :thumbsup:

Yeh and it looks ace for it ;) Thanks G. Nortech got a mention ofcause on the sponsors list for the mags - and I kept on pointing out all the blueness, I love it! Not only an awesome truck, but very bling too. :thumbsup: