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ben44
25-01-2013, 09:57 AM
This is a good point and vital to do if you don't want to bugger a spur gear in minutes! Don't know the reason for it, but I've built 4 now with no issues but 2 that were built by others and both unfortunately had it the wrong way round wrecked their spurs in the first nights racing.
Could you take some picture because i don't understand very well and the Google traduction is worst.

john333
25-01-2013, 10:02 AM
Hi Ben, just follow exactly the instruction manual the picture is correct in there. If you look at the spur gear one side is different to the other :thumbsup:

It builds up the same as your T4

john333
25-01-2013, 10:03 AM
First full meeting tonight and i must say i'm in love!!! Tq and the a final win

Ran the car outside on wet astro set up as per kit only changes were team c soft rear spring and 1.0 rollbar instead of the 1.2

Will run 1k in diff next time and report back

Very impressive :thumbsup:

ben44
25-01-2013, 10:19 AM
Ok, but i waiting mine he is on travel ...
I will look the insctruction when he arrived

lapster10
25-01-2013, 09:02 PM
Hi there,

I'm looking to get 1 at the weekend, just wondering wot things I need to race on carpet and ashtro , do I need to get any shims , wot tyres work on the front cheers

Andy

john333
25-01-2013, 09:09 PM
Hi there,

I'm looking to get 1 at the weekend, just wondering wot things I need to race on carpet and ashtro , do I need to get any shims , wot tyres work on the front cheers

Andy

No you shouldn't need any shims, they are in the kit. Most of us use low profile cut staggers on the front.

Good luck finding one, I was under the impression they were all sold out but hopefully for you I'm wrong.

lapster10
25-01-2013, 09:16 PM
Hi,

Cheers , do I need any other springs ?

Andy

SamRCRacing
25-01-2013, 10:05 PM
If im correct Apex Models still have 1 or 2.

Sam

john333
25-01-2013, 11:55 PM
Most of us are going for a team c hard spring on the front, and using the kit rear. The kit comes with a medium front.

deano43
26-01-2013, 02:51 AM
As John said schumacher low profile cut staggers up front and schumacher yellow mini pins on the rear for carpet and same fronts but schumacher yellow mini spikes in the dry or balistic buggy greens in wet or damp for the rear on astro you can use team c springs as John said but apparently losi 22 springs also fit if you cannot get team c ones.

lapster10
27-01-2013, 05:11 PM
Hi

The low cut staggers is it yellow compound ?

Cheers Andy

john333
27-01-2013, 05:28 PM
Generally yes, but good to have both for tuning!

jaywestwood
28-01-2013, 10:00 AM
Hi all,

I ran the TM2 for first time on sunday in difficult wet and windy conditions. My first impressions were this car is excellent and with a little fine tuning it is going to be one to beat..
I added some weight to the car and it got better.

Cheers
Jay

Smartalec
28-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Running some back to back tests on astro yesterday I feel the 1 degree alloy rear blocks from the TC02C give better side bite and a much better feel to the car. To use these on the kit wishbones you will need to enlarge the hole in the wishbone to accept the larger pivot pin. I don't feel that this will weaken the wishbone significantly for normal driving conditions but obviously in a heavy impact it could fail. You can of course use the 2wd wishbones but this will shorten the wheelbase considerably and in my opinion makes the car more unstable.

Try it and see if it suits ;)

Chalkie
28-01-2013, 02:08 PM
Alec Team C now make these http://www.teamcracing.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=15&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=831&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71

Smartalec
28-01-2013, 02:55 PM
Alec Team C now make these http://www.teamcracing.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=15&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=831&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71
Cheers James, but these still adjust from the side, you want the ones that adjust from the top so you can shim the ballstud :woot:

Smartalec
28-01-2013, 03:02 PM
Cheers James, but these still adjust from the side, you want the ones that adjust from the top so you can shim the ballstud :woot:
Part Number TU0237 :)

DrPaul
28-01-2013, 03:19 PM
Hi Alec,
If you flip the 2wd rear wishbone over you dont shorten the wheelbase. You just need to drill the two bottom shock mounting holes on the other side of the arm.

Smartalec
28-01-2013, 03:22 PM
Hi Alec,
If you flip the 2wd rear wishbone over you dont shorten the wheelbase. You just need to drill the two bottom shock mounting holes on the other side of the arm.
Cheers Paul, will have a look how that affects the angle of the driveshaft and try it tomorrow :)

PM sent by the way

stall4king
28-01-2013, 09:25 PM
Myself and jono raced at Worksop yesterday and both of us were generally chasing rear end grip all day, especially before changing to a ball diff...

Jono went with the standard kit set up and i tried the tc02 wishbones on the back of mine, which did shorten the wheebase slightly. To use those wishbones means that you have to cut down some springs to be able to get a proper ride.

I ended up on losi yellow springs with kit pistons and 20 weight associated oil, 0 degrees antisquat and although it was probably the best it had been it still needed improvement. Ill probably try a softer spring and some added rear weight next time its low grip, what has everyone been running for slippy conditions?

In hindsight i should have probably ran the kit set-up to start with and decide where to go from there, oh well. Jono's car seemed to have more rear end than mine and he was running the kit setup...its something i will try next time out.

In all i think we both went home happy as we didnt drop finals from previous rounds and by the end of the day T4 was running really well :thumbsup:

stall4king
28-01-2013, 09:32 PM
Myself and jono raced at Worksop yesterday and both of us were generally chasing rear end grip all day, especially before changing to a ball diff...

Jono went with the standard kit set up and i tried the tc02 wishbones on the back of mine, which did shorten the wheebase slightly. To use those wishbones means that you have to cut down some springs to be able to get a proper ride.

I ended up on losi yellow springs with kit pistons and 20 weight associated oil, 0 degrees antisquat and although it was probably the best it had been it still needed improvement. Ill probably try a softer spring and some added rear weight next time its low grip, what has everyone been running for slippy conditions?

In hindsight i should have probably ran the kit set-up to start with and decide where to go from there, oh well. Jono's car seemed to have more rear end than mine and he was running the kit setup...its something i will try next time out.

In all i think we both went home happy as we didnt drop finals from previous rounds and by the end of the day T4 was running really well :thumbsup:

carrot
28-01-2013, 10:12 PM
Raced mine at torquay yesterday,the first time it has turned a wheel.
Kit set up,really impressed and went faster straight away than with my 210.Raised the front inner ballstud to gain a bit more steering,i can't believe how much grip it has and how it carves through corners with loads of corner speed.I would like a bit more steering,is anyone running different castor blocks or messed about with the Ackermann?

jaywestwood
29-01-2013, 07:59 AM
Raced mine at torquay yesterday,the first time it has turned a wheel.
Kit set up,really impressed and went faster straight away than with my 210.Raised the front inner ballstud to gain a bit more steering,i can't believe how much grip it has and how it carves through corners with loads of corner speed.I would like a bit more steering,is anyone running different castor blocks or messed about with the Ackermann?

Hi,
By raising the inner camber link you will take away initial steering but gain mid-exit steering. Where you running 30 deg caster block or standard 25?
To gain more steering try standing the shocks in on the wishbone or run a shorter camber link.
You could then drop shock oil or run softer spring or you could put a stiffer roll bar on (this will take rear grip away)

Cheers
Jay

DrPaul
30-01-2013, 12:51 PM
Got to see the final version of the Phat Bodies TM-2 cab forward shell mould last night...looking very cool....should be available in about 10-14 days. Mr Speedy will post photos ASAP.

Also checked the undertray last night as well, perfect fit and with kick up to secure at front.

Well done Phat Bodies....well worth the wait guys :thumbsup:

ben44
30-01-2013, 07:07 PM
With the 2wd rear arm did you try on the tracks the front spring at the rear.
It the solution i find to putt 20mm

mgdannyk
30-01-2013, 10:10 PM
how much better is this car than the tc02c, ie is it worth paying the extra £££

john333
30-01-2013, 11:22 PM
how much better is this car than the tc02c, ie is it worth paying the extra £££

The tc02c is good everywhere, the tm2 is even better on high grip tracks. So I suppose it depends what surface you race on really.

john333
30-01-2013, 11:27 PM
With the 2wd rear arm did you try on the tracks the front spring at the rear.
It the solution i find to putt 20mm

Not tried that Ben but sounds like a good idea

lapster10
31-01-2013, 12:28 AM
Hi

Where's the best places for spares , think I might need a spare spur gear

Cheers Andy

IntegraMark
31-01-2013, 03:48 AM
I'm having trouble understanding the instructions for assembling the slipper clutch. i haven't run the car yet because i'm unsure of how it's supposed to be done.
here's how I have it now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/buff4prez/20130130_164410.jpg

what have I done wrong?

DrPaul
31-01-2013, 10:04 AM
Hi Mark,

You are right so far but:

Remove the top pin TO4032

Now put on the slipper plate TO4020

Now put the top pin back in TO4032

Now put on the centre bearing insert assembly TO2177 & TO2099

Add a tiny amount of thread lock to the two TO2082 screws to hold everything together.

Hope that helps.

john333
31-01-2013, 10:32 AM
Hi

Where's the best places for spares , think I might need a spare spur gear

Cheers Andy

Pbm racing (01773 769323) are good for team c spares

Robbiejuk
31-01-2013, 12:36 PM
I'm having trouble understanding the instructions for assembling the slipper clutch. i haven't run the car yet because i'm unsure of how it's supposed to be done.
here's how I have it now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/buff4prez/20130130_164410.jpg

what have I done wrong?

Your spur gear is upside down.... Unless I am looking at it the wrong way. Should be a pin slot in the spur gear for the pin that is close to the spur gear.

john333
31-01-2013, 01:32 PM
The pin slot goes on the same side as the out drive and the slipper adjusting nut. So as you build it the way the instructions show the slot is at the bottom. You have to push the spur gear down against the spring to slide the pin into place.

DrPaul
31-01-2013, 01:35 PM
Robbie, sorry mate but thats wrong. The slot faces down towards the slipper spring.

Smartalec
31-01-2013, 02:43 PM
Robbie, sorry mate but thats wrong. The slot faces down towards the slipper spring.

Correct :)

IntegraMark
01-02-2013, 07:50 PM
Hi Mark,

You are right so far but:

Remove the top pin TO4032

Now put on the slipper plate TO4020

Now put the top pin back in TO4032

Now put on the centre bearing insert assembly TO2177 & TO2099

Add a tiny amount of thread lock to the two TO2082 screws to hold everything together.

Hope that helps.

So that pin is supposed to be touching the back of the spur gear? the slipper nut is backed off all the way.

the whole assembly is standing on the outdrive in the pic.

I may try doing it upside down with the outdrive and spur gear slot facing up, just to see how it assembles.

john333
01-02-2013, 08:37 PM
Yeah but the pin won't touch the spur once everything is tightened up ;)

Philim
01-02-2013, 11:38 PM
Just had a good night at telstar with the tm2. First time on carpet and qualified B1 and finished 1st - on a set of 4 week old mini pin tyres. Very pleased with the car so far; it is just so easy to be consistent.

Smartalec
02-02-2013, 08:00 AM
Well done Phil, was a good comeback under pressure, keep it up

Tbone
04-02-2013, 07:05 AM
I'm having trouble understanding the instructions for assembling the slipper clutch. i haven't run the car yet because i'm unsure of how it's supposed to be done.
here's how I have it now:


what have I done wrong?

so here is a fast fix for the original slipper...
I raced it the hole 3 days and it is still fine in both cars TM2 and T4 .


to prevent that your spur is not turning round and to make it last longer you need to do 2 adjustments:

1. install a bearing in the middle of the spurgear, the small one from the balldiff is a perfect fit.
2. install 0,4mm of shims under the last pin to avoid that the spur can be pushed against a pin when the slipper is tight.

sellunderstanding is that the slipper is build like in the manual... so pay attention so not flippe the spurgear.. the pinslot must be faced down.

see the attached foto and I think it will be easy to understand and is a fast fix :)
also we found that the black spur gears last alot longer then the white ones:)

goos
04-02-2013, 05:21 PM
Hi

Where's the best places for spares , think I might need a spare spur gear

Cheers Andy

EuroRC has a healthy amount of TeamC spares. Also consider buying the original black one, Finnish Team drivers have found it more durable as it will last even if you lose one teeth or two, but the kevlar one will just strip.

john333
05-02-2013, 12:50 PM
Have just done toms spur gear mod and it works a treat, the bearing just slides in with no drilling etc required, and gives some extra support plus truer running of the spur.

IntegraMark
06-02-2013, 05:18 AM
Have just done toms spur gear mod and it works a treat, the bearing just slides in with no drilling etc required, and gives some extra support plus truer running of the spur.

what's the part number for the bearing? or the size of it?

Tbone
06-02-2013, 06:49 AM
hy ,

number is T02098 and size is 5x8x2.5
regards and happy that it works for you guys:)

Tom

KooBee
01-03-2013, 07:05 AM
New body for TM2

http://forum.teamcracing.net/data/attachment/forum/201303/01/1033008ns8xxx55y8ysyzr.jpg

jaywestwood
01-03-2013, 11:36 AM
New body for TM2

http://forum.teamcracing.net/data/attachment/forum/201303/01/1033008ns8xxx55y8ysyzr.jpg

HMMMMM DB1 shell

KooBee
03-03-2013, 07:29 AM
HMMMMM DB1 shell

Looks like a TC02C cab forward body (without the bulge for the spur gear) to me...

http://www.teamcracing.net/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/TM2_2WD_Mid_Moto_50b5e87a2e031.jpg

Skye
03-03-2013, 09:19 AM
I still think it looks more like a db1.... :eh?:

JezT
03-03-2013, 09:31 AM
I can't see why that new shell has still got a "cut-in" at the back (like the old TC02C shell) when our TMs chassis is square almost to the rear wheels :eh?:

The DB1 is a better fit at the back because of this.

DrPaul
03-03-2013, 11:15 AM
Check out Phat Bodies Bozak shell, it's been designed to fit the TM-2 correctly not adapted from an existing shell and they do an under tray :thumbsup:

http://phatbodies.bigcartel.com/product/team-c-tm2-bozak

DerbyDan
05-03-2013, 12:12 PM
I can't see why that new shell has still got a "cut-in" at the back (like the old TC02C shell) when our TMs chassis is square almost to the rear wheels :eh?:

The DB1 is a better fit at the back because of this.

This image has been published on the TeamC Facebook page....

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/644521_10200148321167233_962313905_n.jpg

Looks to be a TM2 Specific cab-forward shell without the gear cover moulding that is not needed for the TM2. I wonder what shell we will get when the 2nd batch of cars finally arrives ?- I rather like the TC-02 shell that came with the original batch of kits:)

metoo
30-06-2013, 06:09 AM
I'm more of a fan of the current body.

Dextro
11-07-2013, 01:51 PM
Hey,

Have somebody test this Body for the TM2 ?

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MuchMoreWonderBody-1.jpg

Is the "Muchmore RB6 Wonder Body" compatible with the TM2 Chassie :confused:

It looks the same ;)

bomber
11-07-2013, 02:15 PM
I would imaging its far too narrow, the TM2 is a wide old girl :)

ben44
31-08-2013, 04:36 PM
Dear all
I see we can use an rw spur for the tm2 but i don t find the link.
If some one can putt the link again here.
Thanks

ianjoyner
31-08-2013, 05:09 PM
Dear all
I see we can use an rw spur for the tm2 but i don t find the link.
If some one can putt the link again here.
Thanks

Inside Line Racing usually stock them, note this is for Durango slipper pads:

http://insidelineracing.co.uk/new-products/spares/team-c-rc-car-spares/rw-spur-team-c-85-tooth-durango-slipper-details

ben44
31-08-2013, 07:16 PM
Thanks but i really would like to use the teamC Slipper because i try the durango but i find it more difficult to find the great strering

luniemiester
31-08-2013, 08:15 PM
http://insidelineracing.co.uk/new-products/pinion-and-spur-gears/spur-gears/team-c-spur-gears/rw-spur-team-c-85-tooth-details

They also do the standard team c pad types

kartstuffer
31-08-2013, 08:35 PM
Thanks but i really would like to use the teamC Slipper because i try the durango but i find it more difficult to find the great strering

I had a problem initially and found the Durango spur with AE hd pads worked.

ben44
24-09-2013, 09:33 AM
The Tm2 of oliver at the world - Picture Neo buggy
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-n7PfCrN/0/M/AT4_8621-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-kcgRhHT/0/M/AT4_8623-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-WBKnVQF/0/M/AT4_8625-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-c9Vt8wp/0/M/AT4_8626-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-jRM5T27/0/M/AT4_8630-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-SCBB85K/0/M/AT4_8634-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-RzjL5SR/0/M/AT4_8640-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-M4mbc2d/0/M/AT4_8637-M.jpg
http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-KxhxBJf/0/M/AT4_8636-M.jpg

dicky14
24-09-2013, 11:42 AM
Interesting weight on the rear? also interesting to see no cut top deck and side rails still in place? be good to see how it goes:thumbsup:

Kusal
24-09-2013, 11:47 AM
+ carbon chassis milled out under lipo + white plastic (undertray) under the front (probably to protect the beginning of the carbon chassis?!) + 4 rear innerside camberlink locations

Adam F
24-09-2013, 11:49 AM
Looks like the lipo has been recessed? Or a weight in there?

The rear weight looks cool... MR CARTER.. make it so!!!

Adam F
24-09-2013, 11:50 AM
+ carbon chassis milled out under lipo + white plastic (undertray) under the front (probably to protect the beginning of the carbon chassis?!) + 4 rear innerside camberlink locations

Could the part that looks like an undertray be a metal weight?

john333
24-09-2013, 12:40 PM
yeah Oliver runs a shed load of weight at the front. The grip on the worlds track is ridiculous! they've got cars grip rolling and wheelying in practice!

hence the TM2 being used. He stands a good chance of doing really well

brooksy
24-09-2013, 01:53 PM
Just been watching the practice for the worlds and I think the tm2 should show itself to be a good car.
As John said the grip looks awesome. Cars are going round like they're running on carpet.

Flauschi215
24-09-2013, 03:59 PM
+ carbon chassis milled out under lipo + white plastic (undertray) under the front (probably to protect the beginning of the carbon chassis?!) + 4 rear innerside camberlink locations

the answer ;)

http://eos.redrc.net/2013/01/chassis-focus-oliver-scholz/

StevenBest
24-09-2013, 06:19 PM
The rear weight looks as if there's a pin holder on it to

Adam F
24-09-2013, 08:59 PM
The rear weight looks as if there's a pin holder on it to

Looks like a brace onto the rear tower with a threaded adjuster?

Adjustable anti-squat? Seems a bit unlikely but cant think what else it could adjust...

Is that the teamC winglet? (Edit.. its HW022, didn't realise they came clear... need one of those to try :))

Adam F
24-09-2013, 09:17 PM
Looks like Oliver is 25th after qualifier 1...

racer_hh
05-11-2013, 09:05 AM
Hi,

I heard some rumors that there is a TM2 v2 in the pipeline with some improvements. Does anybody knows something. The Buggy is now 1 year old - could be true

Muzzie
05-11-2013, 12:42 PM
Iíve not heard anything about a TM2 V2 but John Jones who workís at SMD usually finds out when things are in the pipe line. He will be the man who knows..

A Rumour was started that you may be able to swap out some parts from the New TM4 when it arrives, Diff covers, lipo strap etc.

Personally I donít think there will be a V2 until the TM4 is established.

ben44
05-11-2013, 01:30 PM
If they start work on a new Tm2 it will be readdy for next year.
They have to finish the TM4 and the TC10.

Fo sur the will but the new slipper and parts from the TM4 on the new tm2.
Me i would like to have a new front chassi more modern with the new tm2.

fastinfastout
12-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Does anyone have front/rear weight distribution numbers?

AntH
17-12-2013, 07:03 AM
I have 43% front. No weight added.