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cr1tch
17-12-2012, 02:12 PM
Looking at doing buggys agen this time the 4wd ? Torn between the Xray XB4 or The K1.

Please help me decide.
DeMogoobra
17-12-2012, 02:20 PM
Ah, first thread ;). Was waiting for this.
I had the same dilemma. Always was a Xray fan but when it came down to these two cars I had to go with K1.
Mostly because the belt drive and schumachers experience in making good buggys. First car I have ever owned that I don't feel the need to modify anything on it.
Both cars are exilent. Seen xb4 also and it is a nice piece.
cr1tch
17-12-2012, 02:24 PM
Ah, first thread ;). Was waiting for this.
I had the same dilemma. Always was a Xray fan but when it came down to these two cars I had to go with K1.
Mostly because the belt drive and schumachers experience in making good buggys. First car I have ever owned that I don't feel the need to modify anything on it.
Both cars are exilent. Seen xb4 also and it is a nice piece.

i have an xray t3 and it built like a bullet, just unsure on the buggies i am swaying to the K1
DeMogoobra
17-12-2012, 02:47 PM
I also got Xray so the quality is familiar to me. The same goes for xb4. Then Schumacher also have great quality.
The thing is I even got my K1 with me when watching television cuz I am so impressed with it even thou not one meter have been run yet.
It look super fast standing still. Love it already.
Howler
17-12-2012, 06:55 PM
Time will tell on this. Stu Wood ran his K1 at Bury on Sunday and kicked my lilly white rear quarters... but he could do that with a Tamiya, so hard to say how that translates to less skilled drivers. Still feeling quite happy with my 44.2 for now. I think the XB4 has more "game-changer" potential, but it's not really proven yet. I know a lot of people will worry about the plastic diff gears too.

Interesting times for 4wd anyway, we had 12 4wd drivers on Sunday, the most we've had for a long time.
tisher
17-12-2012, 07:26 PM
Looking at doing buggys agen this time the 4wd ? Torn between the Xray XB4 or The K1.

Please help me decide.


Nooooo .......Durango 410 all the way buddy more solid and as quick as anything else I have driven loads for sale at the moment as well:)
Matt Butcher
17-12-2012, 07:37 PM
The xray would be the way I would go.......... Hmmmmmmmmm
cr1tch
17-12-2012, 07:46 PM
Nooooo .......Durango 410 all the way buddy more solid and as quick as anything else I have driven loads for sale at the moment as well:)

still like the k1
tisher
17-12-2012, 07:46 PM
Time will tell on this. Stu Wood ran his K1 at Bury on Sunday and kicked my arse... but he could do that with a Tamiya, so hard to say how that translates to less skilled drivers. Still feeling quite happy with my 44.2 for now. I think the XB4 has more "game-changer" potential, but it's not really proven yet. I know a lot of people will worry about the plastic diff gears too.

Interesting times for 4wd anyway, we had 12 4wd drivers on Sunday, the most we've had for a long time.

K1s have belts they are always going to become unreliable
xb4 not sure on that one nothing looks game changing to me ..
Looks more like a old fs kyosho I would not buy either of them;)
Si Coe
17-12-2012, 07:49 PM
Time will tell on this. Stu Wood ran his K1 at Bury on Sunday and kicked my arse... but he could do that with a Tamiya, so hard to say how that translates to less skilled drivers. Still feeling quite happy with my 44.2 for now. I think the XB4 has more "game-changer" potential, but it's not really proven yet. I know a lot of people will worry about the plastic diff gears too.

Interesting times for 4wd anyway, we had 12 4wd drivers on Sunday, the most we've had for a long time.

I've seen Stu running a few different cars over time - hell my old BMax was his before I got it, but nothing just looked as 'right' as that K1. Considering Stu hadn't even run it prior to that meeting it was amazing.
The JE boys have built up an XB4 on their facebook page so I'm sure Stu's handled one but he seemed more than happy with the K1.
cr1tch
17-12-2012, 07:52 PM
oooooim torn love xray tc's, but schuy do good buggies and my wife wont let me have both..... (hip dip do, which do i choose)
Howler
20-12-2012, 04:58 PM
So far i've heard of the K1 breaking bulkheads at the shock tower and the XB4 stripping diff gears. Choose your poison...
coleman758
20-12-2012, 05:05 PM
FS2 SP ;)
eyeayen
20-12-2012, 05:16 PM
I've been looking at these 2 as well and am also torn, something that I've been paying more attention to though is the price of spares between the manufacturers.
johnnygibbon
20-12-2012, 05:24 PM
It will be xb4 for me
I love he design of the k1 but its to finely built for me and belt drive may be smooth but it drags crap all round ya drivetrain and in the diffs and needs more cleaning and maintenance
I reckon if your fast and smooth the k1 is for you
But if you like ya car and driving a bit more rugged is be on the xb4
It's going down the prefered buggy route for me
Full big bores not half breeds
Good motor mount system
Shaft drive
Geared diffs with ball option so best of both and more tuning options
Xray quality
Can't wait till I can afford one
reg
20-12-2012, 05:47 PM
I like the look of the K1 and i would think with 80% of people getting one,they will be on the pace quickly,with lots of setups,

Iv gone for the XB4 though as i like to be different:woot:
RogerM
20-12-2012, 05:52 PM
FS2 SP ;)

What this man says!!

new isn't necessarily better ... :woot:
dMITIj
20-12-2012, 06:42 PM
The rumor is that there will be an opportunity to put gear diff in the K1 around January 2013, so you will have the same drivetrain as XB4.

when that is all said and done, i htake the K1 because i can get the spares were i live and last i dont like all the plastick parts on the XB4.

Best Regards.
reg
20-12-2012, 08:54 PM
What this man says!!

new isn't necessarily better ... :woot:


I bet you dont say that if kyosho bring out a new 4wd:drool:
Skye
20-12-2012, 09:26 PM
I've seen both on the track and the K1 takes the honours so far, but then in the defence of the xb4 it was hastily set up trackside with an esc dropped straight in from a TC with all the boost and turbo maxed out. It travelled at the speed of light in a straight line but was inconvenienced by some silly corners that got in the way. The plus side to this though was that it was able to keep going with no breakages so its obviously pretty durable!
RogerM
21-12-2012, 12:29 PM
Depends on if it's better than the current Lazer Reg.

I'm sure it would be as Kyosho aren't known for going backwards :)
Howler
21-12-2012, 08:08 PM
There's not many bad 4wd cars out there right now:

B44.2
DEX410
K1
XB4
FS2

All of those will win races in the right hands.
mark christopher
21-12-2012, 11:45 PM
There's not many bad 4wd cars out there right now:

B44.2
DEX410
K1
XB4
FS2

All of those will win races in the right hands.

Sx3 still too
cmgreen
22-12-2012, 01:13 PM
Sx3 still too

Second that!
traffman
23-12-2012, 12:50 PM
You choose , it's your money , to be honest i'd go for the K1.

I had the Xray 1/8th scale so i know what there build is like...but , i just love the look of the k1 , and after building an SV2 early this year it was a delight to construct.

Easier than a B44.1 !

The top guys could thrash a scalectrix car round a circuit and still win.

It's like asking Lewis Hamilton what formula one car is the best , then going out and buying the road version of his car and thinking you will whoop him on a track day.
andoiwebb
23-12-2012, 04:46 PM
I've just bought the xb4 and tested it for the first time today, it was awesome! Haven't driven a k1, but seen them go and they also look very impressive. A difficult choice, shaft wins for me, i don't think you'll go wrong with either.
dMITIj
24-12-2012, 08:16 AM
So far i've heard of the K1 breaking bulkheads at the shock tower and the XB4 stripping diff gears. Choose your poison...

add that the XB4 shock towers also break left and right.

for the K1 there is alloy for the mention breaked part but i only read of one who did break it at this time.
Howler
24-12-2012, 08:29 AM
Yeah, although thicker shock towers are an easy part to sort yourself. Still, sounds like the XB4 has more teething problems. There's faulty hardware in some kits too from what i've read.
discothesnake
24-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Both of them are brand new kits so there always going to be teething problems. It was a tough decision between the two but I went for the XB4 because I don't fancy belts. I am expecting to have issues with it at first, it's only natural. New models of real cars have issues too.

I just finished building mine yesterday and it went together perfectly. Almost as good as my Yok.......

Once people get them going next season then we will find out what happens with what car.

As someone said earlier, there ain't a bad car out there.

Dave
mes
24-12-2012, 03:28 PM
I just finished building mine yesterday and it went together perfectly. Almost as good as my Yok.......



Almost... ;)
andys
25-12-2012, 04:23 PM
Almost finished my X-ray.
Quality is great - its built like a tank.
Only problem was a ball stud with the driver socket missing, so I had to use a pair of pliers to thread it into the plastic.
Rest of car looks great - lots of parts kind of oversized, which suggests it will be strong.
Drivetrain is super quiet and smooth and very free running.
All in all, looking good.

Considered the K1 for around 5 mins, then came to my senses :)