XB4 breakages

[discothesnake]

I know it's early days but as I've not run my XB4 yet, I'm looking to find out by those who have what the early signs of breakages are.

What's failing if anything?

Need some clues of what spares to hold.

Regards

Dave

[graveltrap]

I've broken and seen two others break front bulkheads

[lochness42]

Check RCTech.net, people also reported broken shocktowers and diff gears apart from broken bulkhead cases

[jamiekerr14]

Yup-Mine broke in the exact same way.. seems they all break there!

[jayst]

brokem bulkhead opposite side to graveltrap :mad:
ive replaced it but ive taped the shock tower screw holes

[tomtom]

Those breakage make me think twice, I'm looking forward to some friends feedback.

I'm a total expert at breaking cars at the rear inner links plate/tower.

On my first Vega I used only the lower outer hole on rear tower and broke some (bad landings among others). I used a two part epoxy (Araldite) and filled the others holes with it and never broke any at this spot again.

Sanding carbon edges helps too as a rounded edge have less chance of getting caught on the astro/carpet, etc. Gluing the edge is nice too but very time consuming.

[johnnygibbon]

How heavy have the crashes been and how easy are spares to get
Is there a large stock of bulkheads or even an upgrade available I need a tough car to cope with me
This seems its weak point
How much Is a bulkhead to?

[discothesnake]

I'm not a huge car breaker so fingers crossed it'll be fine. I've ordered up some spares so should be fine.

[jamiekerr14]

X2 Front bulkhead done today :yawn:

But in fairness it had a few hard hits today, which don't think many cars would have come away with out some damage. It still works fine-cracked slight bit of movement.. but car drives ok. Once I take bulkhead apart it will not be usable.

Anyone got any ideas on any temp fixes.. heard of people in the U.S. trying JBWeld.. and so on.. any idea fellas?

[AfroP]

Diff gears

[discothesnake]

Diff gears


What about them? Are they pro e to breaking too?

Not seen these mentioned yet.

[johnnygibbon]

epoxy metal putty moulded round and left to set will hold it
this stuff is awsome you can reinforce bits prior to breaking and even tap threads into it

looking forward to getting this car but its always a good idea to no what spares might be needed

[jayst]

no breakages 2day on mine and graveltrap's cars and we had some good crashs

[jamiekerr14]

epoxy metal putty moulded round and left to set will hold it
this stuff is awsome you can reinforce bits prior to breaking and even tap threads into it

looking forward to getting this car but its always a good idea to no what spares might be needed


You got a link to the stuff buddy?
May get a few cases.. and try it.. mind you doubt I will be racing for a few weeks at least. So i'm sure someone will end up trying it 1st.

[jimmy]

I've done a couple of meetings now with the xb4 and it's been great, no problems at all.

[sime46]

I've done some practice and a meeting with mine without a hitch. Only probs with mine were setup errors but got those sorted now I think. I'm concerned by these issues but mines been bullet proof so far. Time will tell and I'm sure Xray will address any real issues. For now I have a substantial spares order in and some steel diff gears coming just in case. I think it's a great car. :thumbsup:

[discothesnake]

I've ordered quite a few spares. Gearbox casings, wishbones, gears etc.

Won't get to try mine til Chadderton the 13th but can't wait to try it.

Dave

[neallewis]

Happy to report no breakages for me today at my first meeting with it. Very happy with it.

[feniks]

my car had its second day of practice and I can say that exept the shock tower and the front diffgears that I have changed now in NT1 gears I havent had enny problems . and I can say the car has had a decent test drive every run was a camakazy run to see how far I can puch the car befor it breaks or befor it gets out of controle . so not complaining . one of the best cars I have had so far .:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[andys]

No probs with mine today either.

As I'm an awesome driver :) - I didn't really crash it much - or hard.

A Marshall had an awkward moment with it though and flung it across the hall by accident - nothing broke.

Happy with car - although kit damping is way too hard and the car needs more high speed steering IMO - although I know not how to achieve this!

[andys]

Re breaking bulkheads.

Would it be any use to mount the shock tower onto the bulkhead with a set of 'O' rings sandwiched inbetween the bulkhead and tower?

This - or something silimar would allow a little play on impact as currently the front end is super rigid.

[reg]

or just leave the screws out the carbon brace at the front,

how did they go at silverstone today?

[mark christopher]

K1 won

[reg]

helpful as ever:yawn:

what did you guys who ran them today at silverstone think to them

[jamiekerr14]

Some good ideas about the carbon brace ect-didn't think about that.. could help!

Love the car though, not shimmed my diffs and after 2 meetings still buttery smooth and no sign of excess wear. Mind you its been damp astro most of the time..such a joy to drive this buggy!

[atsang]

hi guys...

Had a few runs with my car now... no breakages and in regards to the diff gears breaking... if u set ur slipper right you shouldnt break gears... i have my slipper set fairly tight which gives the car a load of forward traction but at the same time when doing this u can hear the slipper slip for a micro second... Im running on high grip astro so the gears are being worked quite hard along with my super boosted 10.5 motor (which is faster than my 5.5 lol )

[reg]

People have been having gear problems after the 3rd or 4th run,
the few that have stoped the car,shimed under the center gear have gone on to use the car with no problems,others have just fitted the NT1 metal gears,part number 335030,335080.
App Xray know about the problems,im sure after they have all recovered from the holidays they will sort it:)

[mark christopher]

Xray have already issued thier responce on the diffs


XRAY XB4 - Diff News (please read XRAY Statement below)

"Dear Distributor

Please note that there are some wrong information being spread around. Some customers have noticed a small play on the gear mesh between diff crown gear and pinion gear and they suggest other XB4 customers to use shims on the diff. This is however wrong. Here is official statement which will be posted also online at our web, please be aware of this:

XB4 information about shimming the differential:

Please note that the XB4 was designed by purpose with a small play (clearance) on the gear mesh between the differential crown gear and pinion gear. This small play is made by purpose. You should not use any shims on the differential to eliminate this play. The differential during operation gets warmer and expands. In case the differential will not have a sufficient play the gears may not work smoothly, may lock or even break. For this reason it is suggested not to use any shims and to build the differential as per the instruction manual."

RC Disco statement - "In XRAY we trust"

[mark christopher]

and diff related here


XB4 "SLIPPER CLUTCH" INFORMATION

Message from XRAY

"It is absolutely imporant that you never fully tighten the Slipper Clutch. Overtightening the Slipper Clutch may result into breaking the diff crown gear and pinion gear. The wheels should always be able to slip"

RC DISCO:-

PLEASE NOTE - Gear diffs (as included in the XB4) do NOT slip at all (unlike a Ball Diff) - hence the slipper clutch settings are more important to get right to prevent 'jolt/shocks' (from landing off jumps / clipping corners etc) transferring through straight onto the gears. Please double check your settings as explained above and you should have no problem!! Get in touch with us if you want any further advice.


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[mark christopher]

and diff related here


XB4 "SLIPPER CLUTCH" INFORMATION

Message from XRAY

"It is absolutely imporant that you never fully tighten the Slipper Clutch. Overtightening the Slipper Clutch may result into breaking the diff crown gear and pinion gear. The wheels should always be able to slip"

RC DISCO:-

PLEASE NOTE - Gear diffs (as included in the XB4) do NOT slip at all (unlike a Ball Diff) - hence the slipper clutch settings are more important to get right to prevent 'jolt/shocks' (from landing off jumps / clipping corners etc) transferring through straight onto the gears. Please double check your settings as explained above and you should have no problem!! Get in touch with us if you want any further advice.


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[reg]

Old news mark.

[neallewis]

Last week's news...

I did examine some broken diff gears yesterday. They broke with the driver applying and reapplying full throttle when the car was stuck against a solid track marker.

I had no such problems, my slipper set to 6.02mm. Enough slip to protect the gears, but tight enough for good drive.

[Colin Kirkham]

I still really want to try one, and will more than likely have one by the end of the month ? I've always had Xray for 1/8th and always loved there attention to detail and quality of there parts, lets hope they can address the early teething problems.
Very interesting reading!
So overall are you XB4 owners happy that you got one ??

[racdeaf]

I still really want to try one, and will more than likely have one by the end of the month ? I've always had Xray for 1/8th and always loved there attention to detail and quality of there parts, lets hope they can address the early teething problems.
Very interesting reading!
So overall are you XB4 owners happy that you got one ??

So far I like the xray xb4 only broked the rear diff due my error not tighten up rear diff case due alot play which stripped the gears so put new one in all now is well ..
Ran 4 heat and final still tight Iike new

My previous car is durango dex410 which I had for long time when it first released which I still got :wub so time for me to move to newer 4wd which I chosed xb4 over K1.

[mark christopher]

Old news mark.

Last week's news...

I did examine some broken diff gears yesterday. They broke with the driver applying and reapplying full throttle when the car was stuck against a solid track marker.

I had no such problems, my slipper set to 6.02mm. Enough slip to protect the gears, but tight enough for good drive.

so your saying there release does not cure the problem?

[graveltrap]

BTW Xray have revised the slipper settings in the online manual to 5.7 - 6.3mm from the 5.5 - 5.7mm described in the manual that came with my car.

[reg]

Having not ran mine i dont know,but,reading another forum it would seem not,

[neallewis]

so your saying there release does not cure the problem?

No, I'm saying that I built mine with consideration to the new slipper settings that were advised in the revision put out last week by xray, and I had no problems with broken composite diff gears at my first meeting with the car.

I whitnessed someone else break their rear diff gears in anger, and I've no idea what their slipper setting was.

[reg]

This off another site,thought it might help though.

"just came back from my first run with the XB4

I used the Martin Bayer Setup for carpet, running Schumacher Minipin.

I´m really impressed. Car has lots of steering, jumps very well and it´s aceleration is second to none.

I ran Durango and Kyosho on the same track before so I can compare.

I had some very bad "highsiders" and 2 really hard impacts but nothing broke.

Same to the drivetrain - nothing shimmed, everything stock. No Problems - and there is never more grip than on carpet with Schumacher Mini pins.

Martin told me, that the problems with the diffgears appear when you use too much oil in the diffs.

I filled the diffs with the HUDY scale, exactly like the manual says - no problems - super smooth and free drivetrain.

This car is a blast!

[madap1]

i did strip my internal diff gear in the rear (as neall said) my slipper setting is 6.1. its was my own fault so i cant complain and i think i did overfill it.

i find the car to be very strong tbh, if you crash, something has to take the impact, which can results in breakages, its the same on all cars.

in my opinion with the front bulkheads people are nipping the screws that hold the tower up too tight causing stress when crashed.

[sime46]

This off another site,thought it might help though.

"just came back from my first run with the XB4

I used the Martin Bayer Setup for carpet, running Schumacher Minipin.

I´m really impressed. Car has lots of steering, jumps very well and it´s aceleration is second to none.

I ran Durango and Kyosho on the same track before so I can compare.

I had some very bad "highsiders" and 2 really hard impacts but nothing broke.

Same to the drivetrain - nothing shimmed, everything stock. No Problems - and there is never more grip than on carpet with Schumacher Mini pins.

Martin told me, that the problems with the diffgears appear when you use too much oil in the diffs.

I filled the diffs with the HUDY scale, exactly like the manual says - no problems - super smooth and free drivetrain.

This car is a blast!
Not heard that one about the oil levels before. Worth noting. Mine was faultless on carpet with mini pins although I did start with the slipper loose and tightened it run by run until it was slipping a tiny bit but the car felt fierce. Really easy to drive hard. My diffs were filled as book half way up the gears when sat on the table. Seem ok so far.

[gwesty]

Very impressed with the car today . I ran kit std and the car was great on wet slippy astro . Nothing broke . I had my slipper set at 6mm

[andys]

Seems a bit suspect that Xray 'made an error' in the manual.
Especially as its with the most important part - the slipper.
I ran mine with no apparent problems with the slipper set as per the original manual.
Makes me think maybe the gears are not up to the job and they are trying to cover themselves by telling us to all run the slipper looser now?

[reg]

could be the gears arnt up to us:lol:

[colinjackson]

No problems with gears etc, around 1hr running now. Car is awesome!

[leebunker]

i have run the car for about 2 hours now with no problems whay so ever and the car is just great i can ask for more

[neallewis]

Breakages to report tonight, not directly my fault as I'd passed it to a mate to have a go in practice, but he came a cropper with a solid bit sticking out from a wall in our indoor track.
Struck hard right on the front bumper, directly on the part with the bushing behind.

Took out the front arm, bent the hinge pin and killed a bushing. The Ali FF brace is fine.

[reg]

:cry: oh no,
3 people ran them at westbridgeford lastnight,hopfully they will let us know how they went,
also who will be running them at worksop?be good to know what they go like and setups

[thorny97]

:cry: oh no,
3 people ran them at westbridgeford lastnight,hopfully they will let us know how they went,
also who will be running them at worksop?be good to know what they go like and setups

I was the slower one with one last night, must say its only my second time and I'm enjoying the car. Breakages to report rear wing holder, which didn't help when I went into the wall at the end of the straight, bit of supper glue and back together again. I have an hairline crack at my front bulk head at the camber screw but some supper glue again before last night and all is good. And second meeting with composite diff gears still silky smooth

As far as I know there will be at least 5 xb4's at worksop, these being Greg hill, Colin Jackson, James bullivant, abi dean and mark Thornewill.

Hope this helps

[sime46]

And meeeeeee.

[reg]

I was the slower one with one last night, must say its only my second time and I'm enjoying the car. Breakages to report rear wing holder, which didn't help when I went into the wall at the end of the straight, bit of supper glue and back together again. I have an hairline crack at my front bulk head at the camber screw but some supper glue again before last night and all is good. And second meeting with composite diff gears still silky smooth

As far as I know there will be at least 5 xb4's at worksop, these being Greg hill, Colin Jackson, James bullivant, abi dean and mark Thornewill.

Hope this helps

Its the wall of champions:) if thats all that broke then its bloody strong,its usually a race ending wall,

did you all run kit carpet setups?

I hope you all have a good day tomorrow



And meeeeeee.

:woot: have a good one mate,keep us posted :)

[colinjackson]

Yep as mark said there will be a group of us there 2morrow, if anyone's having any trouble or difficulties please come over and we'll do our best to help and assist :p

[seth556]

For those of you breaking the rear shock tower (or front) I've made some aluminum towers for the car. The picture is the prototype but the ones I'm selling have sanded edges and clean holes. They're $35 shipped in the US and $45 shipped to Europe.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oY_3xpz70ls/UOUFo64rQyI/AAAAAAAAE50/Om0GevbttIc/s1024/IMG_20130102_213042.jpg

[jamiekerr14]

Hi Chaps,

Just thought I would let you guys know. I sent Xray an email a few weeks back-With info and pics of my cracked bulkhead.
(To make it positive feedback and not someone bashing it on a online forum!)

I was hoping to provide them with some more info and pics of my crack (Dirty minds!!:p, to hopefully help them in resolving/sorting the slight issue some are having.

"Dear James

Sorry for late response, we had Xmas holidays.

Sorry to hear about your problem. The XB4 was long term tested by the racing and R&D team in plenty of abusive conditions and real races without any major problems. However we have received and seen several comments and feedback on some issues.

Neverthless we carefully monitor and study all the comments received from customers and we have been still waiting for some more feedback from some other countries and distributors around the world to get a complex view and understanding if customers in other areas in other conditions face similar issues. As soon we will have any official final information it will be posted at XRAY web site, please keep watching it.

Thank you and with best regards
Mario Hudy"


There working on it ;)

[feniks]

hey all . just to let you now that we have made shocktowers aswell in the shop cnc mild . have tested them and the bulckhead broke and the tower servived .
now as we are located in belgium its a problem for those in the UK wanting some . now this will be solvd as Nathan ralls of ralls racing will be given a handfull this weekend so that those who wants them than get them from him . greets and best regards Bart

[flode]

What about making a bracket like this?
This is just one that I made ​​of lexan. Make one in 3mm alu tomorrow.

[xray011]

People have been having gear problems after the 3rd or 4th run,
the few that have stoped the car,shimed under the center gear have gone on to use the car with no problems,others have just fitted the NT1 metal gears,part number 335030,335080.
App Xray know about the problems,im sure after they have all recovered from the holidays they will sort it:)

I need to change the rear gears(second nights run took a heavy hit on the straight)
Anyway rc disco have the metal gears but not the steel pins.so just till they come in stock,will the metal gears fit on the platic pins?
Anyone tried the metal gears from dex210?

[james_xray]

I have run the metal gears on the composite cross pin until i can get hold of the metal ones.

I ran the worksop meeting like that and had no issue. I would only suggest it as a temporary fix because i imagine the composite material will wear quickly. But to get you through a race meeting it will work

James

[xray011]

I have run the metal gears on the composite cross pin until i can get hold of the metal ones.

I ran the worksop meeting like that and had no issue. I would only suggest it as a temporary fix because i imagine the composite material will wear quickly. But to get you through a race meeting it will work

James


Cheers James
just hope pins will be in stock soon!

[jimmy]

Martin Bayer ran the car at last weekends EOS - the car was totally standard including plastic gears, no problems with big jumps and lots of traction. I watched him change his diff oil to make sure he wasn't fibbing and sure enough - all kit items.
Slippers are there to protect the drivetrain - use it!

[xray011]

Martin Bayer ran the car at last weekends EOS - the car was totally standard including plastic gears, no problems with big jumps and lots of traction. I watched him change his diff oil to make sure he wasn't fibbing and sure enough - all kit items.
Slippers are there to protect the drivetrain - use it!

The xb4 that broke is my mates,mines still stock and going fine.
we both bought one each and built them the same and ran them at the same races.
sometimes its just down to bad luck i think.
im loving my xb4,got loads of steering n handles on rails.
not run it outdoors yet,life keeps getting in the way!

[sime46]

At risk of jinxing my car, I've now done five meetings including Worksop and lots of carpet running and haven't broken a single thing. As Jimmy says, if the slipper is used appropriately it'll protect the tranny and not adversely affect the driving experience. Mine gets better every time I take it out. I'm sure I will break it at some point but so far it's been faultless and fast.

[feniks]

Martin Bayer ran the car at last weekends EOS - the car was totally standard including plastic gears, no problems with big jumps and lots of traction. I watched him change his diff oil to make sure he wasn't fibbing and sure enough - all kit items.
Slippers are there to protect the drivetrain - use it!

cant agree more on the slipper part jimmy .
I always start to lose and than go stiffer . my slipper works almost always when I jank the throthel after a turn for at least 50 cm just to save the drive train . and that is on all my cars and on al serfaces lol

[discothesnake]

Ran my xb4 for first time today at Chadderton. Was panicking at first as I left all my spares in Glasgow!

Very impressed with it and managed to put it in the B Final. Needs lighter damping but apart from that it was great.

Also, never broke a thing all day.

Great car.

Dave

[reg]

Just wondering if anyone has had the diff outdrives snap,app were the drive shaft slots in,on full compretion the drive shaft is hitting the outdrive and snapping them,they say they were running the rubber stops on the outside of the shock shafts,might be worth looking at and putting two on or some plastic washers instead of the rubber

[andys]

3rd indoor meeting with mine.
Running all original parts.
Still no failures or breakages.

[yorkie2380]

ive run mine once on grass so far , second meeting this weekend !
i had a heavy full speed tumble and broke the camber link off the rear shock tower , saying that u should all be aware by now there is a free upgrade kit !!
see team xray .com
yorkie.

[discothesnake]

I know some people have had issues with the shocks leaking but what about the diffs?

After 1 and a half meetings my diffs have completly emptied. I have rebuilt them with new gaskets and re-greased the o-rings. As i did when new.

Anyone else had this problem?

[Ralls Racing]

I used AE green slime on the orings in mine and were fine. few leakes after 4-5 meetings so reslimed them and prefectly fine again

Nathan Ralls

I know some people have had issues with the shocks leaking but what about the diffs?

After 1 and a half meetings my diffs have completly emptied. I have rebuilt them with new gaskets and re-greased the o-rings. As i did when new.

Anyone else had this problem?

[discothesnake]

Ran car at Chadderton yesterday again. Car keeps getting better but shocks still leaking. We tried building them with Losi 22 o-rings in the caps but still leaked. May also be leaking from bleeder screw hole too.

Haven't checked the diffs yet but they seemed okay.

Overall quite happy with the car so far.

[feniks]

my shocks arent leaking at all . but I tichten them verry hard . to prevent that .
if it leaks on the bleading screw than U over tichtent it . as simpel as that . :D:D:D:D:D

[discothesnake]

Mine were tight believe me. They have leaked each time. As for the cleeder screws they were not over tightened.

Built loads of shocks etc in my time and never have any issues. I like the car and want it to work but its a bit annoying.

[Jim Birkitt]

hi i had my diffs leak nearly empty after 2 races(2x5 min runs!!)but i found that was leaking past gasket when rubbed on wet and dry found a few high spots so rubbed down till flat new gasket and sealant and been all good since.

hope this is helpful

[AfroP]

hi i had my diffs leak nearly empty after 2 races(2x5 min runs!!)but i found that was leaking past gasket when rubbed on wet and dry found a few high spots so rubbed down till flat new gasket and sealant and been all good since.

hope this is helpful

was it green slime you used as a sealent?

[neallewis]

was it green slime you used as a sealent?

http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php/spares/team-associated/b4-1/ft-green-slime-shock-lube.html

[reg]

how are we all getting on with the upgread kit?

[neallewis]

how are we all getting on with the upgread kit?

fine, despite the ugly front shock brace looks. I recently replaced my kit front bulkhead after finally breaking it. I wondered if anyone has broken the uprated part? I've got a spare, but wondered if the issue was now gone?
I've read that on US style tracks, now they have the rear brace, they are breaking rear hubs, but yet to do one myself. Might be worthwhile carrying a spare, as I have.

[discothesnake]

I have the upgrade kit fitted after breaking my original front bulkhead. No other breakages yet. Still on my first set of gears too. Starting to really like the car but i still have concerns once we go outdoors with gears etc.

Looking forward to trying it tho.

[AfroP]

built my kit with the upgrade kit as standard so have the metal braces on the shock towers and the front bulk head fitted and ready to go.
just waiting on a 3mm turnbuckle wrench and some green slime to try and sort my leaky diff
also trying to source some diff gaskets at a decent postage cost

[neallewis]

I have the upgrade kit fitted after breaking my original front bulkhead. No other breakages yet. Still on my first set of gears too. Starting to really like the car but i still have concerns once we go outdoors with gears etc.

Looking forward to trying it tho.

What concerns? high traction stressing the gears?
I'm still on the kit gears, had no issues at all running carpet and slippy gym floors with minipins. I've just built up a new diff for easy swapping and testing of oils. built this with he new upgraded gear. not noticed any difference in them, but the kit ones have seemed fine to me.
I have recently loosened my slipper. It was set at 6mm when i built the kit, but i just loosened it one full turn. I've not noticed any difference in the slip, which makes me think i'll try it another full turn next time out.

One of my racing buddies keeps popping rear diff outdrives, even with upstop limiters added. I've not had a problem though.

[neallewis]

Leaky shocks has been a problem I've had. It goes away if you can tighten the caps on tight enough, but that is really difficult as there is no way to grip the shock body to tighten. Other brands have a key or spanner to hold the shock body. I've managed to solve this with with a pair of pliers that i've wrapped the jaws in PVC tape. I can now hold and grip the shock body enough to be able to tighten and loosen the cap so it doesn't leak or damage the shock body.

I've also just today received a selection of 1mm thick orings in 10,11 and 12mm internal diameter to see which fit the best into the shock cap. it's an experiment really.

[madap1]

as neal said i have done to diff outdrives, one front, one rear. Anyone else done one?

i put upstop limiters in so it doesnt hit the bottom aswell.

what i did notice on both diff outdrives that they had snapped in the same place.

im worried about when i go outdoors is it going to do it on high grip astro.

other than that i love the car, its nicely balanced and very easy to drive


martin :)

[Jim Birkitt]

was it green slime you used as a sealent?



no just standard automotive silicone sealant

[BentKa]

Xray are soon releasing both aluminum shock caps (press release soon) and stronger outdrives (in production) :thumbsup:

This is why I have never regretted going for the XB4 for the 2013 season.......now if they only could hurry up and release the XB9E :drool:

Bent

[reg]

Xray are soon releasing both aluminum shock caps (press release soon) and stronger outdrives (in production) :thumbsup:

This is why I have never regretted going for the XB4 for the 2013 season.......now if they only could hurry up and release the XB9E :drool:

Bent

Will they option parts?

[BentKa]

Will they option parts?

Shocks caps most likely yes.

Stronger outdrives might be a running change though..........

Bent

[madap1]

im glad xray have been on top of all the small problems happening to some of us.:thumbsup:

wonder how long before a xb4 2013 edition?:blush:

[AfroP]

Green slime and a diff rebuild sorted the leaky diff issue I had. Probably my building
The leaky shocks however....
One front and 1 rear seems to be just seeping oil from under the cap as soon as there is any compression in the shock.
I had read that soaking the caps in hot water to soften them them screwing them in place helps.
Will need to give this a bash and see how it goes

[Ralls Racing]

had an initial issue with leaky shock tops on a customers car we built. did them up as tight as poss by hand and issue went away and hasnt returned since so think the thread just needs to be used/abused to tighten a touch and is fine.

also have just fitted the alloy shock caps to my own car and tested them at worksop on sunday. is a nice fibre/rubber style washer for inside the top of the shocktop so problem solved. fit and quality is typical xray (awsome) :thumbsup: will soon be in stock with us ;)

[mikeyscott]

Heard people are breaking drive cups.

Also heard pin retainer around driveshafts is breaking.

[BentKa]

Heard people are breaking drive cups.
-Add up travel limiters to avoid drive shaft hitting outdrives when bottoming out (especially when moving shocks in on tower/out on arm).
-Change outdrives or pins in driveshaft when worn to ensure bind free movement
-Stronger outdrives are in production @ Xray

Also heard pin retainer around driveshafts is breaking.
-Keep the joints well lubed and you will have no problems.
-Change to drive shaft couplings with set screw

See answers above.

Bent

[graveltrap]

Ran my car in freezing conditions at the weekend, no breakages to report, the updated bulkhead seems to have solved the problem I was having. Fantastic job by Xray to get the fix out so quickly.

I did notice that the rear driveshafts have been rubbing on the outdrives so I have added another up travel limiter to the rear shocks.

[Holeshot]

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[andys]

My rear diff finally gave in today.

Ran car at 5 or 6 meetings with no problems - now outdoors on grass - 3rd meeting in the gears started slipping.

Obviously original gears were not up to the job as I'd built everything - including slipper correctly.

Hoping new gears last a lot longer. Front is still ok on original gears.

[MeBeMikey]

New kits have all the new bits included. I've done a ton of practice and racing on high grip astro and have been doing very large jumps with no damage or excessive wear to report.

[AfroP]

seems I've now done a Hub bearing

despite oil'ing and re-oil'ing with Avid slip bearing oil
I get a couple heats then the squeeky comes back. will have to replace it I think

[MeBeMikey]

Few of my bearings are gritty now. That's expected with all bearings I've ever used. Now I've gotta get the seals off and blow them out, oil them and throw them back in.

[neallewis]

My rear diff finally gave in today.

Ran car at 5 or 6 meetings with no problems - now outdoors on grass - 3rd meeting in the gears started slipping.

Obviously original gears were not up to the job as I'd built everything - including slipper correctly.

Hoping new gears last a lot longer. Front is still ok on original gears.

Andy rebuild with the new bits from the upgrade kit. The new 35T diff bevel gear is spaced to push the internal diff gears closer together, so they sold last longer. I blew a rear diff internal gearset at RHR dirt the other week, which considering it's been in use every week since xmas using original kit (unmodified parts) isn't bad. I rebuilt with the free upgrade parts, so hopefully should keep me running for a while.


I also blew an outdrive at RHR dirt (my own fault). The new upgraded v2 parts are a lot beefier so hopefully that fault is fixed now as well.

[AJ Roberts]

Between me and a mate we have broken, 1 front hinge pin brace, 1 c-hub and 1 knuckle, also knackered a few hinge pin bushes, but not bad for around 100 packs between us :)