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[markemark21]

hello all ive been toying with the idea to start buggy racing i would particuly like 1/10 herd there are a few clubs round kent.
my questions are
what buggy to buy or do i need two
can i still use nicads as that is what i use now
do i need to spend a shed load of cash through out the year to upkeep
what motor and esc brushed brushless
and what is a good budget to start off with got £500 to play with

i have got two RC10s gold pans would this be a good choice
or are they abit too old

i hope i dont sound too demanding just wanna get a idea

thank you guys

[Stu]

Nice gold tubs make ace office/model room art, dont get rid of them lads.

Racing, moved on a bit boss. No need to spend a bomb anymore to be competetive at club level, if your experience is 15 years ago plus you wil be amazed how technology has levelled the playing field. Cheap power & run time and strong ccars.

[jimmy]

Hi mate, the goldies aren't really worth racing these days as parts are hard to find. The stealth trannied gold car is much better but still you're much better off with something that others are running locally.

£500 is plenty especially if you buy some stuff second hand. Nicads will work but I'd advise getting a lipo and lipo charger. If you're club racing, you might need two packs, but I've raced with one pack myself and never had time to completely re-fill the pack, but it didn't matter.

[Burty248]

Where abouts in kent may i ask?

[markemark21]

thanks for the quick feed back so do you reckon i can get everything with that sort of money even lipo and charger
i do like something pretty high quality but where to get one and what to get i have been looking at a ae b4 but wouldnt know witch b4 to get,
is there anything particular i should look at also losi22 that looks nice

[markemark21]

Where abouts in kent may i ask?
im in tobridge do you live in kent

[Burty248]

thanks for the quick feed back so do you reckon i can get everything with that sort of money even lipo and charger
i do like something pretty high quality but where to get one and what to get i have been looking at a ae b4 but wouldnt know witch b4 to get,
is there anything particular i should look at also losi22 that looks nice

I used to run a b4 is a great car no doubt about it but a SV2, durango DEX210 or losi 22 would i think looking back would be money better spent, (due to the motor config a mid motor is generally better). if you really want a b4 get the new b4.2 well worth the extra over the b4.1 and the electrics in the r2r would be cheep and need to be replaced anyway so just get the kit.

im in tobridge do you live in kent

Yes. There are 2 big main clubs in kent Faversham on wednesdays, which primarily runs 4wd cars and Maritime in Chatham on tuesdays which runs 2wd and 4wd but is mainly 2wd. there are other tracks which run events during the summer.

My advice is go to one of the meetings have a chat with someone who looks like they know what there doing and ask questions about pretty much anything, also most clubs have shops that you could probably get a full setup from at once or order one in which would save a lot of hassle.

[markemark21]

I used to run a b4 is a great car no doubt about it but a SV2, durango DEX210 or losi 22 would i think looking back would be money better spent, (due to the motor config a mid motor is generally better). if you really want a b4 get the new b4.2 well worth the extra over the b4.1 and the electrics in the r2r would be cheep and need to be replaced anyway so just get the kit.



Yes. There are 2 big main clubs in kent Faversham on wednesdays, which primarily runs 4wd cars and Maritime in Chatham on tuesdays which runs 2wd and 4wd but is mainly 2wd. there are other tracks which run events during the summer.

My advice is go to one of the meetings have a chat with someone who looks like they know what there doing and ask questions about pretty much anything, also most clubs have shops that you could probably get a full setup from at once or order one in which would save a lot of hassle.

ok thank you think ill try the one in chatam dont suppose you have a number or a link so i can contact them

[Stu]

http://www.maritimeracing.info/

http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=130

[Burty248]

ok thank you think ill try the one in chatam dont suppose you have a number or a link so i can contact them

Try here:
http://www.maritimeracing.info/index.php?option=com_dfcontact&Itemid=85

or have a look here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=130

most club info is here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108387

[markemark21]

Try here:
http://www.maritimeracing.info/index.php?option=com_dfcontact&Itemid=85

or have a look here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=130

most club info is here:
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108387

just checked them out thanks alot guys

[Mrs oOple]

If you're dropping in at Maritime and you are thinking about the Losi 22 then Darren Bloomfield's your man to speak to - I'm pretty sure he races there on Tuesday evenings, races for Team Losi and is really helpful. Have a look around at what everyone else is racing too and see what takes your fancy.

[brookie]

Hi there!

Your closest club is Plough Raceway, though primarily a summer club, being a traditional grass track they are always glad of more support and help, though not having their own website some details are here:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107598

You may also want to check Eden Park Raceway out (http://www.edenparkraceway.com/) where, as you can see, contrary to some earlier statements we will be running this weekend (as we do once a month throughout the winter!) and we will be trackside Saturday preping the track for Sunday should you want to come along for a chat.

Would recommend doing that before you commit yourself to anything so you can get a good idea of what we use and what is popular at which ever track you decide to make your home, as it's always useful to have local knowledge, support and back-up.

More details of what going on in the South East are here:

http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35

and here:

http://www.brca-southeast.co.uk/news.php

hope this helps?

[markemark21]

hey guys thankl you for the feed back think im gonna pop up to chatam on tue night se what it is all about

[12-nitroman]

as your starting off at a club level i would look at the team c tc02c which is a cheap buggy but it handles so well and parts are crazy cheap
or if you wish to spend that bit more then i'd go for the durango dex210.
you will need lipo battery and charger and some parts to keep you going if you break it.
a brushless system for a 2wd would be 10.5t brushless motor and speed passion esc as i find them reliable.
also 2.4ghz radio system i reccomend the etronix stick type.

you will get all that for under your price i would have thought

buggy : dex210 or tc02c
radio : etronix stick or pistol 2.4
electronics :speed passion 10.5 or lrp x12 10.5
speed passion esc
you will need more parts if you buy the tc02c but the dex210 is built like a tank.

[markemark21]

as your starting off at a club level i would look at the team c tc02c which is a cheap buggy but it handles so well and parts are crazy cheap
or if you wish to spend that bit more then i'd go for the durango dex210.
you will need lipo battery and charger and some parts to keep you going if you break it.
a brushless system for a 2wd would be 10.5t brushless motor and speed passion esc as i find them reliable.
also 2.4ghz radio system i reccomend the etronix stick type.

you will get all that for under your price i would have thought

buggy : dex210 or tc02c
radio : etronix stick or pistol 2.4
electronics :speed passion 10.5 or lrp x12 10.5
speed passion esc
you will need more parts if you buy the tc02c but the dex210 is built like a tank.

So is it 10.5 you have to use in races.
Team Durango where do you get one in the uk I can't seem to find any
Also I do like the looks of the tlr 22
Radio wise I use a dx6i I know it's for air but I have converted it to ground I've been quite happy with that.
The sv2 looks good as well don't suppose you have a link for the team Durango

[Bernie_W]

Here you go mate get one of these you wont be disappointed.



http://www.team-durango.com/race-cars/dex410rv3/

:):):)

[markemark21]

Here you go mate get one of these you wont be disappointed.



http://www.team-durango.com/race-cars/dex410rv3/

:):):)
That's really nice but I think I wanna stick with 2wd
And they look expensive

[markemark21]

Hello all thanks again for all the advice well I think it's a toss up between a losi 22 or a td dex210.
What motor mean how many turns do need for racing does it matter just don't want to buy the wrong thing

[trr061984]

As a new driver a 10.5t will be sufficient fast enough in a 2wd (or it was for me when I started out). Some will suggest you go lower, and most use 7.5 or 8.5t once they are established.

[Burty248]

10.5 is plenty for 2wd i run one at maritime and seem to be able to keep up with everyone in my heat so i guess thats allright.

If your coming to chatham there are plenty of drivers with the losi 22 and the durango aswell. There are still some people with b4's, rb6's and many other car types.

There is plenty to look at.

[Team No Idea]

Hello, just a thought. We have a little guide on our website that you may find useful if you are starting out in RC racing. Feel free to take a browse!:thumbsup:

http://www.teamnoidea.com/getting-started-in-r-c-racing/

[markemark21]

As a new driver a 10.5t will be sufficient fast enough in a 2wd (or it was for me when I started out). Some will suggest you go lower, and most use 7.5 or 8.5t once they are established.

Ok thank you for letting me know so there is no rule on how many turns you have then? What would be a good buy on 8.5 turn how bout the ez run I've been using them in my beach buggys. Or should I get some thing like a castle or fusion?

[trr061984]

Ok thank you so there is no rule as such on how many turns you have then?
I've been using 8.5t in my beach buggy it's a ezrun would some thing like that be ok or castle or fusion I really don't want to spend over 120ish one a esc and motor

Some clubs will have rules pertaining to motor turns etc, but I would say that the majority do not.

If you currently have a 8.5t, then I would stick with it. For what its worth, I would go to my local club with what you have, give it a go and see how you get on. Driving ability is a lot more important at the beginning of your club career then having a super fast motor etc. Therefore, give it a go, and see how you get on, then decide whether you need to buy some quicker stuff.

[dicky14]

if you havnt raced for a while go for a tc02c, easy to drive because they are forgiving, i run one and only break the occasional front wishbone, its a good car:thumbsup:

[markemark21]

As a new driver a 10.5t will be sufficient fast enough in a 2wd (or it was for me when I started out). Some will suggest you go lower, and most use 7.5 or 8.5t once they are established.

thank you for the reply so i guess there is no rule as such on how many turns you have. ive got a ezrun 8,5 t seems ok but is there some thing else i should look at like castle or fusion but wanna keep it about £120 ish

Hello, just a thought. We have a little guide on our website that you may find useful if you are starting out in RC racing. Feel free to take a browse!:thumbsup:

http://www.teamnoidea.com/getting-started-in-r-c-racing/

thank you for that thats made me understand it abit more

i will be coming to maritime tommro nite im looking fwd to seeing what people have got and see some racing hope to see some of you tommro
cheers
mark

[markemark21]

Ok guys think I've nailed it down to two buggys a losi 22
Or a sv2 just don't know what one to get

[chrispattinson]

Ok guys think I've nailed it down to two buggys a losi 22
Or a sv2 just don't know what one to get

Both capable and good quality cars.
Try listing the spec of each, and then deciding. For example, do you have an existing set of tools?
Losi designed in the USA and Imperial hardware.
SV2 designed in the UK and metric hardware.

[RobW]

Had both cars and definitely both good cars and you won’t go far wrong with either.



I found the Losi bulletproof - I bought a few spares but can’t remember actually breaking anything. Few issues like with any car but easily solved. Kit diff balls and screw are rubbish – might as well replace when you build the kit – probably cost about £12 tops. Out of the box in some track conditions it did suffer from a lack of rear traction but there is now a lot of set up information available to cure this and most people change the HRC rear block. Not a lot of room under the shell to get your electrics in so you’ll probably end up buying another shell but I found mine went better with a cab forward (FTW) shell anyway which had a load more room underneath.
SV2 kit is a joy to build, it just falls together, and they have done a lot of the work for you like the shell and wing coming pre-cut. Feels like you get quite a lot for your money in terms of nice alloy bits. No need to really buy anything apart from the normal pistons/springs etc to suit track you are running on. If I have to come up with negatives in my experience it is not quite as strong as the Losi – had a couple of breakages (front bulkhead and servo saver) in not particularly bad accidents but then again any car can break if you hit things hard enough. Not trying to suggest it is a weak car in any way -just my opinion that Losi would not have broken in same accident. Also IMHO the rear gearbox seems overly complicated – there really is no need for the external idlers – so neither of 2 SV2s I built had the smoothest of gearboxes I’ve ever experienced but does not seem to affect performance. Also I almost guarantee that you’ll take at least 2 attempts to build the diff first time around due to annoying c clip – once you have it sorted its fine.


For me they are so close that I’d just choose the most popular at the track you are going to race at most or if you have a local shop, which one is best supported.



Rob

[markemark21]

Had both cars and definitely both good cars and you won’t go far wrong with either.



I found the Losi bulletproof - I bought a few spares but can’t remember actually breaking anything. Few issues like with any car but easily solved. Kit diff balls and screw are rubbish – might as well replace when you build the kit – probably cost about £12 tops. Out of the box in some track conditions it did suffer from a lack of rear traction but there is now a lot of set up information available to cure this and most people change the HRC rear block. Not a lot of room under the shell to get your electrics in so you’ll probably end up buying another shell but I found mine went better with a cab forward (FTW) shell anyway which had a load more room underneath.
SV2 kit is a joy to build, it just falls together, and they have done a lot of the work for you like the shell and wing coming pre-cut. Feels like you get quite a lot for your money in terms of nice alloy bits. No need to really buy anything apart from the normal pistons/springs etc to suit track you are running on. If I have to come up with negatives in my experience it is not quite as strong as the Losi – had a couple of breakages (front bulkhead and servo saver) in not particularly bad accidents but then again any car can break if you hit things hard enough. Not trying to suggest it is a weak car in any way -just my opinion that Losi would not have broken in same accident. Also IMHO the rear gearbox seems overly complicated – there really is no need for the external idlers – so neither of 2 SV2s I built had the smoothest of gearboxes I’ve ever experienced but does not seem to affect performance. Also I almost guarantee that you’ll take at least 2 attempts to build the diff first time around due to annoying c clip – once you have it sorted its fine.


For me they are so close that I’d just choose the most popular at the track you are going to race at most or if you have a local shop, which one is best supported.



Rob

Thank you, loving the quick responses by the way well the hobby store I rang suggested the sv2 to me a good starter and he has all the spares and carrys them at his shop at the track so that's handy.
Also just looking at the pics of the sv2 it just says quality I can't see any plastic on it. And doesn't look like you need any upgrades for it maybe some weights.

The 22
There are a lot at the track seeing so many skinny things running about the track not doubting them just saying there are a lot. But looks like you have to spend loads of money for parts and buy more up grades.
I think I will end up buying a sv2 I spose it wouldn't matter wicH one I buy
I can't go wrong.

[markemark21]

I've got two sets of kyosho velvets should I use them on the new buggy or keep the standard ones.

Another question can I convert the sv2 in to a rear mounted at all