Serious thread about the Yokomo B-MAX4

[sosidge]

Here is Yokomos own product page (in Japanese) - http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/product/offroad/bmax4/b_max4.html

Here are a couple of pics

http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/product/offroad/bmax4/b_max4_01.jpg

http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/product/offroad/bmax4/b_max4_03.jpg

And here are the most interesting ones

http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/product/offroad/bmax4/b_max4_11.jpg

http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/product/offroad/bmax4/b_max4_08.jpg

Not only have Yokomo made a plastic chassis and reused what looks like parts of the SD touring drivetrain, they have also made NEW suspension parts.

If this was just a cheapy then they would have tried to keep as many BX parts on it as possible - but they haven't - expect a race-developed version of this car soon!

Very interesting!

If they can do them for £100 like the old MR-4BC was they would be great. If the price is closer to the £170 mark someone else has mentioned I think the car will die on its arse in the UK, a B44 is widely available for only £50 more and has full alloy and carbon.

[sparrow.2]

It certainly does look very capable and a little better spec than the Durga. If they price it competitively I think it could become popular.
It seems some thought has gone into the various bits on the car.
Let's hope it holds up.

[sosidge]

Dodgy Babelfish translation of the Japanese text...

Main specification * the shaft drive whose dustproof characteristic is high full-time 4WD system & center motor & universal center shaft & full adjustable double wishbone suspension & bulk resin make oil damper & dial type [huruajiyasutaburusupuringutenshiyona] which are superior in balance * front and back [bo] - [rudehuarenshiyarugia] & front and back universal shaft & die-cast make clamp type motor mount & [bariaburuajiyasutosuritsupakuratsuchi] & the front aluminum suspension mount brace & the full ball bearing * the rose cell & separate pack battery both correspondence & the aero forum body & wing set (polycarbonate make)

Those which are necessary for assembly kit travelling: 2 [chiyannerupuroposetsuto] (transmitter, receiver and speed controller, servo), battery (SUB-C 6 cells), charger, motor and paint for polycarbonate

[vinny20]

On this car will the bx sock towers fit on it and a few other part's because if they do iv got way's to make it stonger:D

[ben]

Sock towers? Looks like ive got loads of spares then if i ever needed them. :thumbsup:

[vinny20]

Shock towers? Looks like ive got loads of spares then if i ever needed them. :thumbsup:


Bloody hell im falling a sleep ben i think i will need sleep early 2day :D

[vinny20]

Question will masami or any other top yokomo racer be racing this car

[PaulRotheram]

seeing it is a a budget car, and not their full race spec I highly doubt it, but you never know - crazier things have happened.

[vinny20]

I guess we just have to wait another 1 or 2 yrs until yokomo release somthing better:( apart from the BX worlds

[Northy]

V-Mag, get your head down and get yourself some rest fella.

G

[vinny20]

V-Mag, get your head down and get yourself some rest fella.

G


Good idea northy right im off to sleep see ya

[Scouser]

Personally, I like these cars. Tamiya Durga, Hotbodies new 'budget' car and now Yokomo. I think it is good for encouraging people to have a go at r/c without breaking the bank or buying second hand but more than that, it allows more experienced drivers to set about making these type of cars competitive. I would imagine it is hugely rewarding to do well with a car you have made race-worthy rather than just put together the latest and greatest kit.

[rcluke]

I would imagine it is hugely rewarding to do well with a car you have made race-worthy rather than just put together the latest and greatest kit.

that is like me with my Tamiya TA-05 :)

It is doing well with a 5.5T novak system against the other modified saloons at the TRCC

[Adi]

whenn all works well, the car comes in the august :thumbsup:

[sparrow.2]

whenn all works well, the car comes in the august :thumbsup:

Are you going to run one? Off to Kampenhout in a minute :D

[Adi]

Are you going to run one? Off to Kampenhout in a minute :D

Of corse. But Kampenhout is not so near :(

[A.J. Gee]

Personally, I like these cars. Tamiya Durga, Hotbodies new 'budget' car and now Yokomo. I think it is good for encouraging people to have a go at r/c without breaking the bank or buying second hand but more than that, it allows more experienced drivers to set about making these type of cars competitive. I would imagine it is hugely rewarding to do well with a car you have made race-worthy rather than just put together the latest and greatest kit.

I couldn't agree with you more. I think these budget buggies that companies have been putting out are great for the hobby. I personally enjoy hopping up buggies rather than buying a buggy already hopped up.:)

[PaulRotheram]

seeing it is a a budget car, and not their full race spec I highly doubt it, but you never know - crazier things have happened.

see - crazy things do happen! ;)

[bigred5765]

it seems this car is very capable in the right hands,wonder how cheap parts are,

[Garry Driffill]

If they bring out some carbon fibre bits i think id buy it

[sosidge]

If they bring out some carbon fibre bits i think id buy it

Just out of curiosity, why would you want carbon bits?

[dave p hall]

If they bring out some carbon fibre bits i think id buy it

carbon junkie:lol:

[Garry Driffill]

Just out of curiosity, why would you want carbon bits?


I dont know to be honest LOL ! Carbon fibre looks nicer than plastic as im sure we could all agree.

In a nutshell Dave is right :lol:

[jeff jenkins]

i like the new b-max car its pretty cool.. but if there are carbon bits on it i dont think it will handle as well since an all plastic car will generate more grip and is easier to drive.

[bigred5765]

well it seems plastic is the way to go, neils just won the 4wd euros with this car well done neil

[Garry Driffill]

Its good to see this car do soo well after its first few runs, but give that guy any car and he would be able to take a win or there abouts, sheer talent !

[Gayo]

Do you know if the diff and gear are compatible with the AE stuff? I'm tired of breaking gears on my MiD44 (based on the B44), maybe those are stronger...:eh?:

[sosidge]

If the gear is from the SD (as was mentioned by Jimmy in his report from the Euros), then no, not compatible with AE.

Perhaps you should redesign the MID44 for the BMAX - its the car to have for 2009 you know!

[MHeadling]

I wonder when it is coming out? is it available abroad yet? I quite fancy one after Neil Cragg's result at the Euros, i know he is an awesome driver but the car must be pretty good!

[Lee]

There are only 2 cars at the moment, neil didnt even get to keep the car for the national.

I think it will be out in the next few months though, im sure it is mentioned in the interview with the yokomo boys.:thumbsup:

[jimmy]

Yeah Neil should have his car in a month or so - I assume they must be almost there.

[DaveG28]

So are they planning to race this one only from that point?

If so I guess it'll kill the bx, doubt anyone would run the 501 if Tamiya team all used the cheaper Durga anyway!

Hopefully good for the hobby though, assuming prices are reasonable! What type of tracks does the extra flex help on by the way, and on other tracks is the bx likely to have any advantage?

[Scouser]

Yeah Neil should have his car in a month or so - I assume they must be almost there.
Will there be a review do you think?

[jimmy]

I don't think there's a plan to replace the BX as such - they said they planned to continue refining the BX. Review - we'll see, we asked the Yoke boys so we'll have to wait and see

[Bike Racer]

I don't think there's a plan to replace the BX as such - they said they planned to continue refining the BX. Review - we'll see, we asked the Yoke boys so we'll have to wait and see

If they're smart they'll send one to Jimmy ASAP. Jimmy's reviews are awesome, and I know A LOT of people read them for the inside scoop.

[DaveG28]

RC Champ are saying Yokomo are "Hoping" to release the car in August.

I still think it will kill sales of the BX (which I've just bought!), if its cheaper and the team guys are using it and winning with it!

[ThePromise]

Will there be a review do you think?

Hello,

release date of the new Bmax4 will be around midth of July assumed price is arount 24000 Yen, which is something like 145 Euros. But keep in mind that this will be the price in Japan. And yes, there will be a review on www.rc-car-setup.com (http://www.rc-car-setup.com) soon, unfortunately only in German language. Maybe I'll release an English version later.

Greets, Chris

[stegger]

What type of tracks does the extra flex help on by the way, and on other tracks is the bx likely to have any advantage?
Dave, it looks like the extra flex has helped on the loose dusty tracks and the high grip grass tracks;) will be interesting to see what spec the car will come as standard, and whether you will have to buy all sorts of upgrades.

[bigred5765]

i heard, the first models out will have plastic everything apart from motor mount, then a cragg or euro version with a few alloy hop ups ie alloy shock bodys and hinge pin braces and im sure i heard you can use ae apurs and slipper pads

[RC-Span]

wish you where here...................:woot:

[DaveG28]

Had an email from Champ today, release date late Sept, @19000 yen (@£100), plus a champions upgrade set for 8400 yen (@£45). Not site what's included in the upgrades though!

[Spoolio]

Hmmmm, wonder if it'll come with pozi screws or proper ones? Tis a little point but I detest pozi's. I may have to give one a go at that money :drool:.

[albertobdq]

From RC champ:
Champion package,B-Max4 Stabilizer set (Front & Rear),B-Max4 Aluminum front wheel hub (for BX wheel),B-Max4 Titanium turnbuckle shaft set,81T Spur gear,Aluminum king pin set,BX front shock set and BX rear shock set come with this package

Regarding the screws, they are the regular phillips ones, I wonder the BX titanium ones could be used

[DaveG28]

From RC champ:


Regarding the screws, they are the regular phillips ones, I wonder the BX titanium ones could be used

Do you know if the champions pack also includes the special motor mount? It is listed as an option part!?

[albertobdq]

It's an optional extra! BM-304SS Special motor mount set 3.150 Yens.

The spare parts or optional extras are not ready yet, only the cars. In the following weeks it's expected that they will arrive to shops.

[albertobdq]

Exploded view and some news:

http://www.watt-rccars.com/index.php

[Adi]

Here we are...

http://www.yokomo.ch/Bilder/b-max/014.jpg

[speedworm]

Adi...You're the best! So how was the first laps with you're BMAX??

[Adi]

The detailed report follows...

But i can say, it was like Neil have said on the euro.

"You can drive fast laps, but more of them..."

The car is very easy to drive. The basic set up is great!
I have run it without any modification! Also the original shock oil. (front and rear 400)
Also "Zero Modified" :D

[Spoolio]

Does it have a slipper as part of the kit? Also, the kit doesn't seem to be widely available yet or am I just looking in the wrong places?

[Adi]

Hy Spoolio

Yes, the kit have a slipper. And you can adjust it from outside. It works very well!

I have the kit on stock... ;)

[DaveG28]

Hy Spoolio

Yes, the kit have a slipper. And you can adjust it from outside. It works very well!

I have the kit on stock... ;)

Hi Adi,

Will you be stocking spares as and when they are available?

Nice kit to build, diffs and driveshafts come preassembled!

[Adi]

Hy Dave

Of corse. I will all the most parts on stock. Im adding now new parts...:wtf:

The kit is really fast built :thumbsup:

[MHeadling]

When are Cml getting the kits in? Any rrp price set yet?

[MK Racing]

CML have now released info on the B-Max4, they are listing 2 versions:
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&products_id=6339
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&products_id=6340

[vinny20]

what a car its been so far

[DaveG28]

CML have now released info on the B-Max4, they are listing 2 versions:
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&products_id=6339
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=212&products_id=6340

One version has the champions pack included, BX shocks, titanium turnbuckles etc!

[vinny20]

Here we are...

http://www.yokomo.ch/Bilder/b-max/014.jpg


nice car i no alot of its plastic but it must be hard plastic

[DaveG28]

Anyone any idea what the aluminium centre link on the options list is? I can't find an equivalent standard part??

[Spoolio]

Hmmm the price is not what I expected :thumbdown:.

[Adi]

Hello Dave

They are the SD-TB39 (2pieces in a bag)

[traffman]

Whaddaya mean ? its a 134 quid ! ive spent that on a meal for two!:thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

Cheers Adi, how did you shim up the front/rear main shaft by the way, as per the main part f the instructions? Or the inset box?

[Spoolio]

Sorry, I was looking at the bottom link - product 6340 - which MK are retailing at £199.99. This is the one I thought was poor value. I agree the £134.99 is much cheaper but if you want nice dampers - and lets face it we all do - we are going to have to pay for it. My point was that B44's etc already come with this stuff and spares are (inevitably) available everywhere etc etc.

I was going to have a punt but I think I'm going to concentrate on 2WD for the time being.

[vinny20]

Sorry, I was looking at the bottom link - product 6340 - which MK are retailing at £199.99. This is the one I thought was poor value. I agree the £134.99 is much cheaper but if you want nice dampers - and lets face it we all do - we are going to have to pay for it. My point was that B44's etc already come with this stuff and spares are (inevitably) available everywhere etc etc.

I was going to have a punt but I think I'm going to concentrate on 2WD for the time being.



I think the prices for both cars is good yokomo have done a great job on this car

[Lee]

Have you thought about getting one V mag?

[vinny20]

yes but if i do i will make the car stonger if i can put on ally hubs ect

[Lee]

Have you seen them break much vinny?


would you reccomend ally hubs for all cars?

[speedworm]

Hi,
I took part to the last french national with my B-Max "mounted the night before the race"; the car was so easy and fast. I qualify Third overall. I took easily Third or second place during qualifying heat. That's really the best feeling i never had with a RC Car...congratulations to Yokomo for this job!

[tjf]

Whats so bad about the standard shocks then? Is this going to be Lipo friendly do you think?

[DaveG28]

Whats so bad about the standard shocks then? Is this going to be Lipo friendly do you think?

Lipo wise, not great, but I'm confident a Trakpower 3200 saddle will go in if you use BX battery posts and a brace that'll fit. Don't see the standard battery holder working, and the top deco may get in the way of 4900's!?

It's also possible Schumacher battery straps will work!

[DaveG28]

Hi,
I took part to the last french national with my B-Max "mounted the night before the race"; the car was so easy and fast. I qualify Third overall. I took easily Third or second place during qualifying heat. That's really the best feeling i never had with a RC Car...congratulations to Yokomo for this job!

Did you run totally standard car, or use bx dampers etc?

Also for anyone running the car what spur/pinion/motor are you using?

[speedworm]

I use the MR4 BX dampers and that's all. The car is grea and so easy tomake fast lap!!
Kit come with a 87 Teeth spu gear I wuld prefer a 84 or 81 because i was not able to put a bigger pinion than 20teeth. Anon this very slippery track i'd rather use a 21or 22...

[speedworm]

I was using Corally 4800 Lipo Saddle pack into my BMAX for training without any problems; It feets perfectly...

[DaveG28]

I use the MR4 BX dampers and that's all. The car is grea and so easy tomake fast lap!!
Kit come with a 87 Teeth spu gear I wuld prefer a 84 or 81 because i was not able to put a bigger pinion than 20teeth. Anon this very slippery track i'd rather use a 21or 22...

wow, what motor do you run? I was going to use 17/87 on a 5.5, should I go higher?

[Adi]

hy there..

i use the nosram 6.5 (12.5mm) with 87 spur and a 21 pinion.

@Dave
I have shimmed original in the front. and in the rear like the other instruction.
I made it so, that i have try it original. first, it was a bit strong, but i think it was ok..

[DaveG28]

I use the MR4 BX dampers and that's all. The car is grea and so easy tomake fast lap!!
Kit come with a 87 Teeth spu gear I wuld prefer a 84 or 81 because i was not able to put a bigger pinion than 20teeth. Anon this very slippery track i'd rather use a 21or 22...

How have you set up the shocks? Using bx fronts with black springs I'm struggling to get the front low enough?

[jasonrcb]

im going to start off tomorrow with mine on 19/87 with novak 5.5

i have put the associated b4 shocks all round blue front springs and silver rear and the front of the car sits lower so that will be my starting point tomorrow

very pleased with first impressions of the car top job yokomo:thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

Hope it goes well, let us know!

[A.J. Gee]

I just ordered this buggy last night. I am very much looking forward to getting it. What are some of your guys who already own it, opinions about it?

[Spoolio]

I just ordered this buggy last night. I am very much looking forward to getting it. What are some of your guys who already own it, opinions about it?

Dude, have you given up on the Durga or just wanting to compare the two side by side?

[Adi]

Hello A.J.

I was yesterday on a high traction carpet.. whit Schumacher RT-1.

The car is so easy to drive! :thumbsup:

Like, outdoors..

And, Zero Modified! Only other schock oil...

[A.J. Gee]

Dude, have you given up on the Durga or just wanting to compare the two side by side?

Nah man, i have definitley not given up on the Durga. I love that buggy very much, but i just wanted to try something other than Tamiya for a change. All of the vehicles that i own are Tamiya, so i thought by switching it up a bit with a Yokomo would be nice. So do you own or plan on getting this buggy yourself?

[A.J. Gee]

Hello A.J.

I was yesterday on a high traction carpet.. whit Schumacher RT-1.

The car is so easy to drive! :thumbsup:

Like, outdoors..

And, Zero Modified! Only other schock oil...


Thanks for the feedback Adi. I am glad to hear that you have no problems with it. It looks like a fun little kit to build and then bash. I can't wait for it's arrival to my door step. Should be here sometime late next week i would assume since it's coming from RC mart.

[A.J. Gee]

should be arriving this up coming week. Cant wait.:D

[TheRacePlace]

the yokomo bmax is awsome to build
and as for handling oh dear it feels great:thumbsup:
And spares are pretty cheap to:p

[GRIFF55]

Saw a few of they running yesterday and they all looked superb. Very smooth car. Be interesting to see a few running outdoors now:D