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Tobamory
24-03-2013, 08:53 AM
Own the 44.2 and K1 and just wanted to complement them with. 2 wd, anybody recommend any.

I like the following

Associated 4.2
Schumacher svr
Inferno rb6
Durango 210
Yokomo

I had a few questions ,

Why is that inferno so expensive, ?
Would spares for the 44.2 work with the 4.2 ?

Thanks.

I see a few 4.1 on eBay maybe one of them but unsure yet

stegger
24-03-2013, 10:56 AM
Tobamory the cars you have listed are all great cars and have proved themselves at all levels. 99% of people are running mid motored cars now ! What are people running at the club you race at ?
Why not go for a car that can be converted with kit parts :thumbsup: like the Durango dx210, Yokomo bmax2, Kyosho RB6 (yes it is expensive, but quality)
Nothing wrong with the other cars you have listed either but its up to yourself.
I'm guessing here but you being in Leeds you are close to the respected MB models in Otley speak to them for more advise.
Hth Steve

AfroP
24-03-2013, 12:08 PM
I'd say either the dex210 or yokomo.

Alternatively pick up a cheap B4.1 2nd hand and convert it to a vega 2nd gen. then you would be able to share certain parts with the 44.2 and still have a very good mid motor buggy

NeilRalph77
24-03-2013, 05:14 PM
MB models in Otley

????

MB Models, 194 Selby Road, Halton, Leeds, LS15 0LF. These lads actually race!!!

Otley Modelsport's in Otley and they'd never heard of half of the makes that are current when I went when I started back the other year.

Aire valley
24-03-2013, 06:39 PM
Hi Rob.... The Associated cars are as good as anything and have the proven pedigree.. Depends on what you want to spend but go for the B4.1 for cheap..the B4.2 for latest with all the upgrades or consider the C4.1 for mid motor (I think Paul from the Batley club is selling his C4.1on here ) some of the parts are the same as your B44.....

Tobamory
24-03-2013, 07:18 PM
Got my eye on one on eBay,

I,ll see what I can obtain, is yours a 4.1 Al?
Suppose 4.2 would have parts I could use on 44.2 in a fashion.

K thanks

The one I'm looking at is an rc10 b4 what years that or is that the same as a 4.1?

Aire valley
24-03-2013, 07:42 PM
Mine has been upgraded from B4 with all sorts...
What ever you look at, make sure it has threaded shocks and cvd driveshafts at least, better if it is full Factory Team version...

Tobamory
24-03-2013, 07:46 PM
Factory team b4 is advert, but its pro gonna go for over 100 which I won't pay,

Might just sell some stuff on eBay and get yokomo or 4.2

What do u all run in them I'm presuming higher turns?

StevenBest
24-03-2013, 10:03 PM
TeamC TM2

Shows great pace on low and high grip surfaces. It's cornering speed is great and is preety cheap to run.

Link : http://www.smddirect.co.uk/tm2-1-10-ep-buggy-tm2-2wd-competition-buggy-1043

Steven:thumbsup:

Tobamory
25-03-2013, 10:32 PM
Seen a few svr on eBay, think its gonna be Schumacher or associated

Quite expensive , what motor n pinion do people run?

Aire valley
25-03-2013, 10:58 PM
A B4 Factory Team went for £82 on eBay yesterday !
Motors.... 7.5 / 8.5T outdoors.....10.5T indoors.
Pinions, as always, depends on motor and spur gear..

Tobamory
26-03-2013, 10:39 AM
yeah i was watching that 1 Alan, was undecided on model so didn't dare take the plunge.

Guy of this forum selling a roller 4.2 but he wants 220 for it from Belgium, which is a lot .

keep looking at this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121085025300?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

I can get a 4.1 for 209 RTR, but was unsure what the RTR parts were like on them, maybe poor.

will i kick myself for not getting a 4.2 bahhh,

Aire valley
26-03-2013, 11:03 AM
The 4.1 RTR is ok, good value as it comes with Reedy esc and 13.5t motor which is quite good especially indoors.... Downside is shocks, turnbuckles,servo etc but can be upgraded over time....if it is for your wife / son then itis a good starter.
Bought my grandsons RTR ,s then upgraded to factory team as and when parts and money became available..!
A better option is still a good second hand factory team at the right price..
As always it depends on disposable income !! :lol:

Tobamory
26-03-2013, 11:37 AM
all my incomes hers, it just if i spend it quick im ok :)

ive shoved an advert on the forums i,ll see who PMs me.

Tobamory
27-03-2013, 09:10 AM
im down to the SVR or B4 Factory

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trr061984
27-03-2013, 09:41 AM
If racing in the UK, then the mid-motor is the most popular choice (in fact, nearly everyone has a mid-motor by the looks of it). So the SVR would be the pick I suppose.

Richard Lowe
27-03-2013, 10:15 AM
The SVR is rear motor also though!

Whan you're just starting (or starting back up) a B4 of some description is the obvious choice, the 4.2's are expensive but otherwise they're good value especially second hand older spec cars. Add to that really good parts availability in general and it makes the most sense.

Once you're confident with 2wd and want to go faster with a B4 you then have a choice of mid-motor conversions, X6, Centro, Vega - though obviously the upcoming X6 Cubed is what you want :p

Tobamory
27-03-2013, 01:14 PM
might just wait then for that :)

Tobamory
28-03-2013, 03:33 PM
Got a 2nd hand B4, should keep me going till that Cube comes out, then I,ll probably look at that or a BMAX.

gives me something to upgrade and tinker with

Now have a Bmax2. that's me done
First race tonight see what I smash :)

stegger
07-04-2013, 08:49 AM
????

MB Models, 194 Selby Road, Halton, Leeds, LS15 0LF. These lads actually race!!!

Otley Modelsport's in Otley and they'd never heard of half of the makes that are current when I went when I started back the other year.

Ha Ha cheers Neil. Must have been having a senior moment !!! Yes as Neil said. ;-)

Loheswaran
07-04-2013, 09:15 AM
I run the DEX210, but I have to say that the ones that look good tend to have the longer chassis (£35.00), the cab forward shell (£18.00), firmer rear springs (£4.00). So far as the diff is concerned if you want the ball diff to work carbon steel circlips (4.00) ceramic diff balls and thrust race (£20.00), or £25.00 for a gear diff).
So you actually have £270.00 to make this car go very well.

If you are going for a conversion kit, you really ought to start with a new car, because you will inevitably replace a load of parts on a second hand car.

In all honesty, unless you are racing at RHR dirt track, I wouldn't waste time on a dual mount car, go for the best mid mount car.

The best looking cars I have seen running 'from the box' so to speak is the Kyosho RB6 - in the long term not a false economy.

The Schumacher Cougar is well supported, and also looks very good 'out of the box'.

I've only seen one Yokomo Bmax 2 and that was pretty impressive as well.

Whatever you do, find out if parts are available trackside by whomever supports your local track.

Andrius
09-04-2013, 07:25 PM
Losi TLR 22 got mid-motor conversion option just in the box. Reliable buggy and cheap to start.

Lee24h
09-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Durango dex 210 are very good however what make is your 4wd as i would go with the same brand

cunawarit
10-04-2013, 10:03 AM
Its always difficult when someone asks to help them choose a car, as I think opinions are ten a penny and reading through this thread shows that everyone has a different idea of what's best. I won't suggest anything, I will hold my hands up and say that I am a know nothing newb and I'm not qualified to advice.

However, have you thought of the following?

1) Getting the same brand car as your 4WD might be a good idea as some spares will probably work. Look into it.

2) Go to the tracks you intend to race at and see what people are driving.

3) Concede that the inevitable truth is that with any modern mid motor buggy it is 95% driver ability (including ability to set up) and 5% car. And then just go with whatever looks cool to you.

Andrius
10-04-2013, 04:23 PM
Durango dex210 and b4 cost a fortune. If you dont mind spend about £350 on just 2wd roller (mid-motor conversion cost about £150 at least) thats ok get durango or b4. Otherwise losi 22 is only the way to go.

trr061984
10-04-2013, 04:31 PM
Got to agree on the mid motor conversion. May as well get the SV2 or Kyosho RB6 for the price of the B4 mid motor.

adon30
10-04-2013, 05:35 PM
How about the Hobao H2 Pro. £135 for the car, £10 for a couple of different spring options and your away.

Spares are cheap and a lot of the stuff from the Losi also fits.
Also a very good car to drive. Why pay double (or triple) the money. Watch out for it at the upcoming national.

Tobamory
10-04-2013, 06:19 PM
well I actually got 2

my 4wds are K1 and 44.2 so I got a 2nd hand B4 and managed to Pick uo a Yokomo Bmax2 cheapish

Been a great car has the Yoko, use it when I smash up the K1.

takes off and lands really well,

Andrius
10-04-2013, 08:05 PM
Got to agree on the mid motor conversion. May as well get the SV2 or Kyosho RB6 for the price of the B4 mid motor.
Kyosho RB6 expensive too run. However starting costs is ok.
schumachers not very well out from box. Needs to work on it, do upgrades (not such expensive as mid-motor centro conversion for b4) to get it right on track. Some parts could be pricey too.
Losi 22 good enough out of the box. All metric hardware, good shocks. Very durable and cheap parts. When using mid motor option could be tricky to get power plant in places due not enough room for everything. For use mid motor option is recommended to get proline buldog bodyshell (more room under lid) and shorty lipos. Many setup options available however could be tricky to setup properly due longer wheelbase (not agile on tight tracks) than Team b4 with mid-motor.
I hope it helps.