410 D.A.R.C conversion

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Hello Ooplers

Can I bring to your attention with huge excitement our new company and product. Based and manufactured in the U.K

DARC Developments. 410 D.A.R.C ( dirt , all-terrain , race , chassis)

It is our alternative chassis for the awesome Durango 410 and are hoping to gauge some interest

Features

Centrally mounted Motor and Radio equipment
Forward and rear mounted saddles
Longer chassis
Ultra slim design
Increased usable radio gear space
Adjustable flex points
TD's weight kit can still be used

Kit contents

6061 t6 aluminium chassis ( anodised Black and longer than the 410)
Precision cnc side mounting blocks ( 7075 aluminium)
Cnc clutch adapter
Carbon sides ( pure carbon twill , no glass )
Carbon battery straps
Brass battery posts
Body shell
All hardware needed to convert

The chassis driving characteristics
has a very locked in rear end
Very good corner entry speed
Amazingly confident in the air
Huge amounts of forward drive
Ton of steering available

Available soon
Price TBA
Thanks for viewing and I look forward to answering any questions and reading any debates
These pictures below are some teasers of a near production car
Built up on the fantastic V3
Chassis is not anodised on this one so as to show construction clearer

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Side view

[rcjunky]

Is it around 15-16mm longer using 2 front driveshafts? (maybe rear, 2 of the longer ones)

[Carlos69]

Sounds cool ... depending on price. What's a "CNC clutch adapter"

[Origineelreclamebord]

Looks really cool! :thumbsup:

Just a question... would it be possible to add a (DESC410) Center diff into the car (as standard, or with slight mods)? It is one of those things that I'd love to see being tested back to back on a 4WD, and I can imagine with a longer wheelbase there is room to play with such things :) (Or by using a shorty instead of a saddle pack).

[jo90]

Sounds cool ... depending on price. What's a "CNC clutch adapter"

Have a look at the rear point of the centre slipper/clutch. Normally the rear long outdrive is connected direct, looks like a CNC adapater is there to lengthan the location the output connects to. This might be what they mean.

Great idea I think, puts the weight across the whole chassis rather than being a tad nose heavy. How much will it cost though as I think that will be the decider as to whether people will go for it

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Is it around 15-16mm longer using 2 front driveshafts? (maybe rear, 2 of the longer ones)

Hi Rc junky
The conversion uses one single donor 410
And uses an extension adapter ( Jo90 hit the nail on the head )
Will use either 70mm or 68mm rear propshaft (V3)
Thanks for your comment

Hope this helps

Looks really cool! :thumbsup:

Just a question... would it be possible to add a (DESC410) Center diff into the car (as standard, or with slight mods)? It is one of those things that I'd love to see being tested back to back on a 4WD, and I can imagine with a longer wheelbase there is room to play with such things :) (Or by using a shorty instead of a saddle pack).

Hi
This is certainly something we will take a look at
Thanks for the heads up
A shorty Lipo will not fit in this car just to clarify
Thanks



We are hoping to release this conversion for around the £150 price
Thanks

Hopefully another photo
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/image_zps4d69f9d6.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/DARC410/media/image_zps4d69f9d6.jpg.html)

And another
Please ignore the condition of the tatty well used prototype in the background

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/image_zps9b01a235.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/DARC410/media/image_zps9b01a235.jpg.html)

[Bman]

Looks great! So the stock body will not fit? What bodies can be used? Thanks...

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Hi Bman
The bodyshell that is pictured in above photo will be in the kit
No other body's as yet fit as conversion is longer, wider at rear and slimmer at front

Car can be viewed at Maritime Raceway this evening

Thanks

[jo90]

Saw the car last night. The machining and everything looks spot on. I really like this conversion. Soon as I have the money spare I think I will be getting one to try out for sure.

Looks like some really good quality components have been used and the design finish is really good.

Definately worth taking a look at if your near Maritime

[jkclifford]

car looks good on the bench and better on the track.

looking forward to driving one.

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Thank you

Closer pics

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And another

[D.A.R.C 1]

Hello Ooplers

Can I bring to your attention with huge excitement our new company and product. Based and manufactured in the U.K

DARC Developments. 410 D.A.R.C ( dirt , all-terrain , race , chassis)

It is our alternative chassis for the awesome Durango 410 and are hoping to gauge some interest

Features

Centrally mounted Motor and Radio equipment
Forward and rear mounted saddles
Longer chassis
Ultra slim design
Increased usable radio gear space
Adjustable flex points
TD's weight kit can still be used

Kit contents

6061 t6 aluminium chassis ( anodised Black and longer than the 410)
Precision cnc side mounting blocks ( 7075 aluminium)
Cnc clutch adapter
Carbon sides ( pure carbon twill , no glass )
Carbon battery straps
Brass battery posts
Body shell
All hardware needed to convert

The chassis driving characteristics
has a very locked in rear end
Very good corner entry speed
Amazingly confident in the air
Huge amounts of forward drive
Ton of steering available

Available soon
Price TBA
Thanks for viewing and I look forward to answering any questions and reading any debates
These pictures below are some teasers of a near production car
Built up on the fantastic V3
Chassis is not anodised on this one so as to show construction clearer



AMENDMENT to this spec
Chassis's will now be anodised Military GREY

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Hi mrroy
Did you receive my PM after the oople time restore?

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Kits will be avaliable early next week
Be one of the first to own this super quick conversion
Price £160
Production car photos will be posted here late this week ( lower shell etc )
No website as yet ( work in progress )
PM me
Many thanks

[andys]

Hi

Can you please post some pics with the lipos and electrics installed - makes it easier to see the layout then :)

Ta

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21 Hours Ago
mrroy76
Member

Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1

Hi, is there any web shop to place order, or is it not for sale yet?

Copy and pasted from old forum
I have answered above
Thanks

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Hi Andy
Here is some pics from the rough hand made prototype DARC 410 ( NOT PRODUCTION CAR ) to give you and idea.
It has an rs pro fitted but takes a hobby wing etc also
I was waiting to show production car fitted up
We are waiting on them coming back from anodising
Hope this helps

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From the other side

[mrroy76]

Hi, does the original rear weight and rear side weight kit fit in this mod? I really belive this kit looks promising and well balanced. But maybe sometimes we need alittle more weight at the rear. Maybe im wrong

[Origineelreclamebord]

I recall seeing or reading somewhere saying explicitly that they will fit without any issues... but I can't find it right now :confused:

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Hi guys
Yes the Durango weights kit fit this chassis
Thanks origneelreclameboard it says it on post #1
The very rear under weight is as per normal 410
And the rear side weights fit upside down above the rear brace. There are extra holes through chassis and rear mounting blocks, with screws provided, you can clamp the side weights down to make the rear brace more rigid or mount them on O rings ( not supplied ) to allow flex
Also you can remove one screw in each of the carbon side/ mounting blocks to tune flex ( where the flex occurs and how much) as long as both front and rear blocks have a screw in to hold the car together , but in any configuration to achieve the flex you prefer
Hope this makes sense
It maybe easier to explain with pics
I will post some pics in the morning , when I get back from racing.
Thanks

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Pictures as promised

[Steve.T]

So what does this conversion do thats better than the V3?

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Pictures

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Underside

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Hi SteveT
It is an alternative conversion for 410 owners better in some situations
The v3 is the best 4wd out there we believe in every field ( performance ,cost ,strength etc ) and the perfect car for our conversion
We have found it to have increased corner speed and rear of the car very planted to get on the gas earlier
Thanks

[mrroy76]

If i put in an order, when do you belive i could get it ?

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Hi Roy
Mid next week if you are in UK
I will be boxing some kits tomorrow evening so I can weigh them etc to get a postage price on Friday
The bank holiday kind of messes it up
So i can post on Tuesday so as to not have it hanging around some depot and getting lost
Would that be ok?
PM me

[mrroy76]

Ok, i live in Norway, but that shouldnt be any issue. Royal parcel or is it royal pririty mail, cant remember is a pretty good way to get it to me.

Ill order 1 set, but i need to wait for the 20Th May. So if you can have one ready for me then i would be happy.

Please PM me if you need more details

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Ok mrroy
No problem
I will PM you
Thanks

[Steve.T]

is there a website yet?

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Hi Steve.T
No website yet
Thanks

[mrroy76]

Hi, Any more reviews about testing? Will the D-joint fit on this?

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Update for you Mrroy76

Yes the Djoints fit this conversion
We are shipping kits out now
Many thanks to the people that have purchased kits already
410 DARC Facebook page coming soon for sharing setups ,tips , news etc
We are awaiting the pro photography of the converted car ( we cannot wait to show you )
A DARC test driver recently went 1.5 seconds quicker a lap running his usual Dex410 setup with a tad thicker front diff oil
So for us very exciting times
Thank you
Any other questions?

[mrroy76]

Update for you Mrroy76

Yes the Djoints fit this conversion
We are shipping kits out now
Many thanks to the people that have purchased kits already
410 DARC Facebook page coming soon for sharing setups ,tips , news etc
We are awaiting the pro photography of the converted car ( we cannot wait to show you )
A DARC test driver recently went 1.5 seconds quicker a lap running his usual Dex410 setup with a tad thicker front diff oil
So for us very exciting times
Thank you
Any other questions?

Im looking forward to the facebook page and pro photos :) And offcource to get one myself :)

[amadán]

A DARC test driver recently went 1.5 seconds quicker a lap running his usual Dex410 setup

so he cut the track?

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Lol Haha
No it was timed on the average
Thanks

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Two 410darc's will be racing tomorrow evening at maritime
Feel free to come and have a look and chat. Kits can Also be available there.
1st batch very nearly sold out!
Thanks

[jo90]

The car definately does handle well. I was pushing you all the way last night (till the servo arm failed on your car) and couldnt get past. Car certainly seems well planted.

If I hadn't been made redundant i'd be buying one this month :(

Good luck with the chassis though !

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Thanks Jo90
It was going to be a real to the line race!
I like racing when it's like that

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Our Facebook group group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159201184254094/
A link to the Darc410
http://www.area52.cc/news/3783-darc-410-conversion-kit.html

Thanks for viewing

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Production pics

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Here

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Another

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The 410Darc is a new exciting competition race chassis conversion for the Team durango Dex410

Available NOW!
Price £160 + postage and packaging

The 410D.A.R.C ( pronounced Dark) (Dirt,All-Terrain,Race,Chassis)

Based and manufactured in the U.K

Features :

Convert your existing dex410 easily to the 410darc.
Centrally mounted Motor and Radio equipment for optimised weight distribution.
Unique Forward and rear mounted saddles makes for a very well centrally balanced car ( forward to back, left to right).
Longer chassis for stability and easier to drive faster.+11mm.
Set up your car from a level playing field!
Ultra slim design.
True lipo chassis, designed with only todays modern lipo's in mind ( not heavy Ni-cad cells )
Increased usable radio gear space.
Chassis flex points adjusted by using different combinations of screws in carbon side rails.
TD's weight kit can still be used
Only the highest quality materials used.

Kit contents :

6061 t6 aluminium chassis ( anodised Military Grey and longer than the 410).
Precision cnc machined side mounting blocks ( 7075 aluminium anodised black).
Ultra low CG.
Cnc clutch adapter ( fits all Dex410s not just the V3).
Carbon fibre sides ( pure carbon twill , no glass ).
Carbon fibre battery straps
Brass battery posts.
Body shell ( inspired by the original 2005 hand built durango's).
All hardware needed to convert a 410 ( nothing else required).
Chrome, Black and White pre cut decal sheet.
Instructions sheet ( English only).

The chassis driving characteristics:

Better performance
has a very noticeable locked in rear end for increased cornering stability and speed.( no wagging )
Very good and confident corner entry speed.
Amazingly controllable in the air.
Huge amounts of forward drive. Leaps out of corners.
Ton of steering available.
Very easy to setup and work on.


Available now

Price £160 + p&p ( we use Royal Mail secure only )
Spares price list coming soon
Email darcdevelopments@gmail.com
message me for any further information
Thanks
Kind regards

[Bman]

Have you noticed you had to change spring rates with the new layout and does the new TD dual slipper work with the conversion? Thanks....

[steve73]

Do you have some photos from the final version with complete electric parts installed?
In this thread i can only find some of the prototype.........

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Hi Bman and Steve73
I will post a pic of my race production car with electrics
No sorry the 2way slipper will not fit this conversion
As for spring rates and set up, it has remained the same
Thank you

[fifi]

I think the 2 ways slipper can work.
I haven t done it, but here is what I think.

you put a front shaft in the back.
You reduce the 2 way slipper screw
you dremel the inside nuts from 2 w s

the long shaft is 14mm longer than the normal one.
The chassis is 11mm longer
you need to dremel the screw and the nut of the 2 way slipper to gain 3mm.

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Electrics installed in a production chassis
Sorry for poor image quality
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/4B76027D-8A39-4168-94F3-87CF94FC261B-470-00000042E9420761_zps953f122f.jpg

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Better pics
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/88A6F0CA-3C8B-41CA-B07A-8F7850E8D804-470-00000044FBDA60CA_zpsa0b2ba45.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/94DCD92D-F615-4964-86AE-AA06240599C5-470-000000455C3047FB_zps699db1e9.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/1D3B88C3-56DE-4A15-A452-26714057BA96-470-000000451B33E8AB_zpsf72ac136.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/EF1586E8-2C0F-4C4F-AC77-C7F698AF051D-470-000000450D4E9816_zps1924a833.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/65CD0A2B-2601-4797-9EA2-3F58DD35D792-470-00000045F0DF6C6A_zps1d0a80d1.jpg
Thanks

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More
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/4918DE1E-EF3F-49B5-8454-4A1084951CF6-470-000000462288B69C_zps04a7d9c7.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/A7CFE5DC-269A-479C-B548-A557A2636E4C-470-000000674BE4C98A_zpsa5ca4356.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/FE97AA21-FE16-4694-93F3-32522EF56EF5-470-0000006731CE17B6_zps87f691e9.jpg

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And more
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/32D22E09-EE78-434D-8720-197C5CF211C7-470-0000006713810F04_zps13b3cd27.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/2DC13F1A-4FAF-46C6-920A-1F96FD100BFA-470-00000066FCAAB827_zps0ac7c2df.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/71490F9B-A622-4B73-9122-1D41326FF8BD-470-000000459880AEAC_zps3fd335b8.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/E140C5FA-9DC8-468E-BF94-D28043BA488E-470-0000004650ECEF8C_zps91fbf40e.jpg
Hope you enjoyed?

[steve73]

Really nice!:thumbsup:
I like the style of the body
(I really hate cab-forward design :D )

One point a don't understand:
The chassis is longer, but you can still use the original drive shafts?:confused:

[mattr]

One point a don't understand:
The chassis is longer, but you can still use the original drive shafts?:confused:there is an extension piece in the rear end of the slipper/drive cup assembly.

[tomtom]

Nice !

Remind me about my Durango B4 proto, really like it !

You should have a picture with a neat electro install on your page

[sheddy]

Had a look at the one in the photos last night, fantastic looking kit, and having raced against one last night it certainly goes as well as it looks.

Am seriously considering getting one

[fifi]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s101/pbonet/DARC%20construction/DSC_0080_zpsa8a8df36.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/pbonet/media/DARC%20construction/DSC_0080_zpsa8a8df36.jpg.html)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s101/pbonet/DARC%20construction/DSC_0081_zps58fe92c0.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/pbonet/media/DARC%20construction/DSC_0081_zps58fe92c0.jpg.html)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s101/pbonet/DARC%20construction/DSC_0078_zps31236afd.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/pbonet/media/DARC%20construction/DSC_0078_zps31236afd.jpg.html)

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s101/pbonet/DARC%20construction/DSC_0075_zps6fedf2fc.jpg (http://s150.photobucket.com/user/pbonet/media/DARC%20construction/DSC_0075_zps6fedf2fc.jpg.html)

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www.darcdevelopments.com

[steve73]

Some advertising for you in a german forum:
http://www.rcindependent.com/wbb3/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=79130

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Thank you Steve
That was very nice of you:)

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DARC 410 chassis at the national
Middle of the page
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2013national-epr/

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http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130061
An interesting DARC thread.

[TonyM]

I've just built mine ready for the oOple Open this weekend. A few points to note:-

1. The body is about 5mm short on length if you cut to the markers. Try and leave a little extra on the nose end if you can.
2. The drive shafts are not precisely in line. To get them in line the motor housing needs to be moved 1-2mm towards the centre of the chassis. One for later batches perhaps. I thought it was me at first and then I looked at the official pictures and saw the same offset. I don't think this will matter too much, if at all.
3. TD's Kuhler body fits reasonably well - see piccies.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7528/piccies101.jpg
Forgive the crap paintwork - I wanted something quick

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/9459/piccies099.jpg
Electrics

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2736/piccies095.jpg
Standard 410 vs DARC

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/3708/piccies100.jpg
DARC with Kuhler body.

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Hi Tony
The shell is supposed to have a little clearance at the rear to allow for chassis flex and is secured using Velcro ( as low as possible to your radio gear)
The motor mount is designed to be where it is to allow for radio room and makes no difference to drive angle of shafts
Thanks for posting your car pics

[TonyM]

Hi Tony
The shell is supposed to have a little clearance at the rear to allow for chassis flex and is secured using Velcro ( as low as possible to your radio gear)
The motor mount is designed to be where it is to allow for radio room and makes no difference to drive angle of shafts
Thanks for posting your car pics
OK thanks for the info.

On my 410 I usually rest the rear end of the body on a body post which I've dremelled down to just the base and I was attempting to do the same with the DARC, hence needing a reasonable body length.

Do you use the rear post at all, or have you completely done away with it?

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Hi Tony
Our car in the advert has no post at all
And looks really sleek
It Just has some Velcro attached on the carbon sides but not covering the screws that hold the carbon sides on and still uses the front mount and clip.
I find it easier to fit the front body clip if you bend the clip to an arc with some long nose pliers.
You could use the standard rear mount by reaming the front hole further forwards from the mark in shell but to be honest I've never liked that Durango rear mount due to it being too close to the rear edge of the shell , so they always rip.
Plus using the rear mount makes the DARC shell look to porky!
Hope this helps Tony

For any non DARC owners reading this I will explain
The DARC shell has cut lines front and rear also front body mount hole and ariel marks
But no cut lines for the sides
So therefore you can install your radio gear the cut out front and rear on the shell, then place on the car until you are happy with the radio gear clearance .
Then trim the shell sides level with the chassis bottom edge. Velcro on.
This allows for larger speedos etc
Hope this makes sense

[Bman]

I've just built mine ready for the oOple Open this weekend. A few points to note:-

1. The body is about 5mm short on length if you cut to the markers. Try and leave a little extra on the nose end if you can.
2. The drive shafts are not precisely in line. To get them in line the motor housing needs to be moved 1-2mm towards the centre of the chassis. One for later batches perhaps. I thought it was me at first and then I looked at the official pictures and saw the same offset. I don't think this will matter too much, if at all.
3. TD's Kuhler body fits reasonably well - see piccies.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7528/piccies101.jpg
Forgive the crap paintwork - I wanted something quick

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/9459/piccies099.jpg
Electrics

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2736/piccies095.jpg
Standard 410 vs DARC

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/3708/piccies100.jpg
DARC with Kuhler body.


Looks good! Can I see pics of the D.A.R.C. chassis and Kuhler body from the underside? I would like to see the gap between them. Thanks....

[jimarea51]

Hi..

Couple of pics of Northy's new DARC shell, I hope he likes it, Been up since 6am to get it finished in time for the Oople race@ RHR!!!

JIm:thumbsup:

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410darc in action Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8DaSVgJ-mg&feature=youtu.be
Thanks for watching

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Congratulations to Darc Driver Graham North ( Northy ) on his podium finish at last weekends Oople series at RHR
Graham finished third overall,Being his first time out with his newly converted 410darc makes this result very exciting.
Well done G
We will share Graham's setup
And the video above was also filmed at the meeting with Graham driving his car.
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/813D9655-3797-44AE-8C05-D53D4DA35A44-236-00000012CDF50229_zpsa1b214e4.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/802345E0-2213-4E22-B0DD-982D52CD4FBD-236-00000012BE0E701B_zpsfe6b3ced.jpg
Pictures and film courtesy of Jimmy oOple
Thanks

[MHeadling]

A friend of mines DARC I wired up for him:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/ABDFDAF2-3158-4E96-8D86-42C0411B396D-9584-00000DC8E6E2A634.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/648AFC5E-3E2E-4580-9E12-2EAC3D355464-9584-00000DC90B7B6D81.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/7CEB2C7B-99B4-4E95-A03A-6D433EBC3B36-9584-00000DC46EA6B903.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/9E633032-5348-4523-A82F-8AE983C31E2B-9584-00000DC476384F91.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/2827858D-58AF-4F4A-9CBA-411EFAC3DA04-9584-00000DC47EE9347D.jpg

[Northy]

Nice AC rear tower :)

G

[TonyM]

I ran mine on grass for the first time this weekend (Southport Woodvale Rally) and it was awesome. I compared it back-to-back with my standard 410 (set up the same) and the DARC felt so safe in comparison.

[spindles69]

I ran mine on grass for the first time this weekend (Southport Woodvale Rally) and it was awesome. I compared it back-to-back with my standard 410 (set up the same) and the DARC felt so safe in comparison.

Same Tony,ran mine for the first time on grass/dirt at http://mercc.net/ yesterday after finishing putting it all together on saturday evening (11.30 finished)
Ran the car same setup as usual,and the car was totally different to drive no need to throttle/brake over the tabletop totally flat.
This has made the car corner the same as the xb4,no loss in speed like its on rails.
All i am going to do is go up on the shock oils 40/35 to 50/40 because no need to run soft on this chassis,it handles the bumps superbly.
Well worth the money.
Good work Scott,You have made the best car out there even better.

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Thank you
Glad you are liking your kits

[B0tt0mline]

Is there also a conversion planned for the DESC 410?

[trekkerkk]

well , finally got a computer to work so I can share my experiences.
I prepared and built the DARC literally finishing on the Wednesday before the Broxtowe national,
the first time the car turned a wheel in anger was in the first timed practice it was very wet but the track drained very well so wasn't to much a problem went out on ballistic buggy greens all-round nothing cut off, even with me not being awake the car was very easy to drive and I learnt the track,
2nd practice was the same wet, but I could still see I could push the car more than I had done,
1st qualifier the car was really good only the muppet driving it let it down 76th in round,
2nd qualifier went out on schuey silvers allround and went 6 secs quicker 76th in rd very easy to drive
3rd qualifier I went back to ballistic greens these gave a little more front end so was easy to get better lines , I did get what I thought were glitches but in quali 4 found out I had had a sensor wire breaking down as the car had more pace in it than I had showed in qualification,
I qualified I 5 not great but not bad , the final was dry so baptism off fire ran ballistic greens with nothing trimmed, on the outlap I could tell grip was very hi but I could drive it without problems(bear in mind on my old Durango I would only ever run staggers)the buzzer went I kept out off trouble and immediately gained 2 places into 3rd we were out front covered by less than 2 ft I managed to get to 2nd then my servo horn let go I tried to carry on but I had no left steering,thats racing,
all in all even through a very mixed day off weather the car was great in all weather conditions, I can recommend the DARC without a problem ,cant wait to do a dry meeting as I have some ideas I want to try setup wise etc....
trekkker

[Rebelrc]

Hi bottom line
There are no plans as yet to do a DARC conversion for the shortcourse
But you never know:)
Thanks

Thanks Trekkker for your report:)

[TonyM]

I managed to get into the oOple Open Series 'B' final this weekend. It's probably one final up from where I would normally be with my standard 410. There's no doubt in my mind now - the DARC has converted a crap driver into a middling driver. :lol:

One odd thing - in one race I managed to pop my rear centre drive shaft. I didn't have any major collision when it happened. I have the longer V3 outdrive fitted and on the bench the shaft is at least 7mm inside the outdrive. I can't bend the chassis enough to recreate the problem and yet it must have flexed enough for it to happen. I checked that the rear gear box was fully positioned and even stripped it down thinking one of the crown pinion bearings may have collapsed allowing the shaft to move inwards. However, there was no problem there. I also checked all chassis/motor mount screws and nothing was loose. I'd be interested to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.

[D.A.R.C 1]

Hi Tony
I'm glad the 410darc is performing well for you:)
We have not heard of any driveshaft popping issues and as you say the rear shaft is in by a lot on the V3 longer rear outdrive.
The only thing I can think of is, was the shaft in when you started the race?
I have seen a few durango owners in eagerness missing a shaft when fitting the clutch.
But other than that I cannot see another cause
Very odd that one
Thanks

[TonyM]

Hi Tony
I'm glad the 410darc is performing well for you:)
We have not heard of any driveshaft popping issues and as you say the rear shaft is in by a lot on the V3 longer rear outdrive.
The only thing I can think of is, was the shaft in when you started the race?
I have seen a few durango owners in eagerness missing a shaft when fitting the clutch.
But other than that I cannot see another cause
Very odd that one
Thanks

As you say odd. It was OK for the first couple of laps so the shaft must have been in when I started. Anyway, hopefully it was a one off.

On another topic, I'd like to buy a new body so that I can have one pro painted. I don't see any on your website store - do you have them in stock?

[D.A.R.C 1]

Hi Tony
Looks like it will be a mystery then.
We have a big jump carbon sides kit
Available that has thicker carbon sides and reduce flex
We are currently out of stock of bodyshells
And will be getting more next week
They are are £18 including stickers
And £5.65 postage
Just so you know Tony we will also have a new design of body soon
Thanks

[TonyM]

Hi Tony
Looks like it will be a mystery then.
We have a big jump carbon sides kit
Available that has thicker carbon sides and reduce flex
We are currently out of stock of bodyshells
And will be getting more next week
They are are £18 including stickers
And £5.65 postage
Just so you know Tony we will also have a new design of body soon
Thanks
I'm interested in the thicker carbon sides, but I can't see them in your shop section. How much please?

[D.A.R.C 1]

Hi Tony
The kit is £20 including postage in the UK
The sides are 3mm thickness carbon glass mix ( still look like carbon fibre ) and 10mm high and not countersunk
So will come with button head screws to attach.

[TonyM]

Super thanks.

I'll send a Paypal for a body £18 + £5.65 postage and £20 for the sides = £43.65.

[D.A.R.C 1]

Thank you Tony

Whilst I'm on here a pic of Crispin Fuggles car
Awesome
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/365B2CCC-2FB5-43A7-850F-86C3D97E11DE-593-0000003D13A2E3AA_zpsba74394c.jpg
http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/94E9E3D6-E45E-40C1-A97B-C819C1C96692-593-0000003D3113DA55_zps336896a8.jpg
:thumbsup:

[spindles69]

Another win today for the D.A.R.C. 410.
Qualified second, 1.5 seconds behind the ftd man Lee (super fast)Hedges.
Grass had all but gone by the final,so took a gamble and stuck a set of turf rippers on and won the final by 6 seconds.

[David1976]

Another win today for the D.A.R.C. 410.
Qualified second, 1.5 seconds behind the ftd man Lee (super fast)Hedges.
Grass had all but gone by the final,so took a gamble and stuck a set of turf rippers on and won the final by 6 seconds.

You were on fire all day Michael. I saw you even dumped your TM2 for the DEX210 in 2wd...

[spindles69]

You were on fire all day Michael. I saw you even dumped your TM2 for the DEX210 in 2wd...

Yes Dave, tried both but prefer the 210.

[patient0]

Hi,

what do you think ?

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww67/patientbob/photo2_zps1957344a.jpg (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/patientbob/media/photo2_zps1957344a.jpg.html)
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww67/patientbob/photo3_zps7645e98d.jpg (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/patientbob/media/photo3_zps7645e98d.jpg.html)
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww67/patientbob/photo4_zps646ac610.jpg (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/patientbob/media/photo4_zps646ac610.jpg.html)
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww67/patientbob/photo1_zpsedd149a3.jpg (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/patientbob/media/photo1_zpsedd149a3.jpg.html)
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww67/patientbob/photo5_zps0959b1fc.jpg (http://s706.photobucket.com/user/patientbob/media/photo5_zps0959b1fc.jpg.html)

Thanks

[MHeadling]

Very nice! Looks fantastic! :thumbsup:

[Lowie]

Hey Scott! :)
Hope the hollidays are sweat :)

little remark here: (rear) driveshaft popping: happened to me to though. However it was only once AND in a crash. The car was ok, nothing broke but I noticed the strange driving so stopped ... luckely before that rear driveshaft demolished somthing under the hood.

Scott will send you pm about the sides.

[steve73]

what do you think ?


Awesome!:woot::thumbsup:

[Lowie]

yo chaps,

I'm adding some pictures and info on the DARC-site (see Gallery).
I am currently looking for as much material as possible and was thinking about using some of the pics you all were so kind to post overhere.

I'll be copying them or link them through. Please just contact me if you would like any of these pics removed from the DARC-site. I'll do so ASAP!

Thx in advance.

Ludo

[Lowie]

As mentioned higher ...
added some content to the Dark-side .. oops, meant DARC-site :p

check out the What's new section, .. but fair warning: it won't be new stuff if you are on top of DARC-things on oOple.
It's just an attempt of getting the site up-to-date :blush:

Link: http://www.darcdevelopments.com/what-s-new/

[D.A.R.C 1]

All 410 DARC kits are sold out
Working on a second batch
Thanks

[steve73]

Congratulations for the big success!:thumbsup:

[Lowie]

added buildmanual on the DARC-site:
http://www.darcdevelopments.com/build-tips/

[MHeadling]

My DARC's

The black one is the a prototype built by Mr DARC , the other car is a production version.

Both going very well! :)

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/AFA4F464-E915-40AD-A9E3-940B9DD3110E-2369-00000310223D32BB.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/5716D4DE-F6DC-47C6-92FB-C012D6797C0A-2369-000003103A8C33A1.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy114/headling/292FC87C-6EE1-4DBF-8DF2-DC0CB5A94507-2369-0000031041B40D01.jpg

[D.A.R.C 1]

Big Jump carbon sides kits back in stock
£20 delivered in the UK
Please contact me regarding shipping overseas
https://www.facebook.com/groups/159201184254094/permalink/191151734392372/
Join us on our DARC Developments Facebook Group
Here you will find an almost secret group of happy friendly rapid racers
Sharing build tips, owners cars pics, specifications, setups, results, build reports and more about their unconventional dex410 DARC's
Thanks
Ps you do not need own a 410darc to join lol
We would be happy to see you here

[D.A.R.C 1]

Editable and printable DARC setup sheet and manual
Courtesy of petitrc
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/darc/SetupSheetsDD410DARC.html
Very useful to bookmark on your smart phone

[D.A.R.C 1]

New chassis have arrived
And will be avaliable when back from anodisers
Thank you

[Airwave]

Has anybody already try to use another bodyshell? I'm very tempted but I just received a so nice body from RCS... Would a DEX410 Bulldog fit the chassis or not?

It seems that the rear is larger... Is there anywhere a comparison of the two chassis (DEX and DARC) from the bottom?

[Rebelrc]

Hi Airwave
Yes I do believe that some have used other shells other than ours ( sorry signed in as rebel rc but am also Darc1)
Although I am not sure of the exact info.
Yes you are correct
Our car is narrower at the front and wider at the rear so I guess people have stretched the rear of the shell over ( not ideal but if it works for you then great)
I'm glad you considered our chassis but sadly we are out of stock
And are having an issue with a supply of out clutch adapter
But hope to sort it soon
Also we may soon be offering a conversion for your 410 that will fit your shell but drives like a darc at a much much reduced price
How's that for honesty?
Fingers crossed it all works out for us
Thanks
Scott

[Airwave]

Sounds very promising... I like the DEX410 very much but you have achieved in term of weight distribution is very interesting...

I'm going to wait impatiently some news about your new car... Thanks...

[Culetto]

I picked up a DARC conversion for my 410 several months ago locally and love it but I need a replacement extension for the slipper assembly. The screw holding the outdrive in came loose and tore the ears right off. Is there a website i can order it from or direct or?

Thanks

[MHeadling]

Best bet is to get in touch on the Facebook page as Scott will see your request there

Link is in a post above

[D.A.R.C 1]

Hi Culetto
Sorry I do not get on here much recently.
I am glad you love your darc
And what a shame that screw came loose
We are completely out of clutch adapters and sadly cannot find a new supplier to make them.
So then
What to do?
How are your engineering/ modding skills
What I would advise
Is to take some 2mm Durango drive shaft pins
Drill with a 2mm drill bit into the broken adapter where the ears/lobes were to a depth of 8mm
Insert the drive pin (10mm length) so you should then have 2mm of pin sticking out
Then bolt on out drive as before with the special darc ( white dotted ) screw.
The beauty of doing this mod is that you can replace the pins
This is how our prototypes were driven and tested.
Hope this helps
I will post a pic from the prototype
Thanks
Scott

[D.A.R.C 1]

http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/DARC410/library/Mobile%20Uploads
Hope this pic makes sense

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w615/DARC410/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps89237cbd.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/DARC410/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps89237cbd.jpg.html)

[ridgeracer]

How long is this adapter ?
Is it possible to use a front center shaft instead ? It 16mm longer than the rear center shaft. 84mm vs 68mm.