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Dudders
05-06-2013, 06:51 PM
Why or why not should you use them and on what surface?
At the DMS Regional Kev Hunt who won was using the new X6 with me on. Just wondered what advantage it my have?
Neil
cutting42
05-06-2013, 11:26 PM
The advantage it had was Kevin driving it :thumbsup:
More seriously I don't know but I was chatting to Kev on Sunday about my upcoming cubed and he did say it should be the first addition I make to the car.
Cuboidnoise
06-06-2013, 12:54 AM
i believe it stiffens out the suspension (depending on the bar) without having to change other bits of it
from reading some of the set up sheets from schumacher dont have them on astro but do for indoor type tracks
RogerM
07-06-2013, 11:43 AM
There are four ways of controlling roll;
1) roll centres - these control the transition, the way the car rolls. Get these right for the "balance" you want from the car.
2) Springs - ultimately these will limit the amount of roll you get (stiffer = less, softer = more) and thus the potential to generate grip. Obviously the roll centres have a part to play with this too.
3) damping - along with the roll centres these affect the rate at which the car rolls (stiff = slower, softer = faster)
4) ARBs - these are essentially additional springing but springs that react to roll only rather than bump too (a bit simplistic but generally ok as a starting point for discussion). Also where as most springs used in RC cars are near linear in response ARBs are more rising rate - the more roll the more they try to resist the roll.
There are instances when you need softer springs for weight transfer, bump handling etc. but could really do with more roll stiffness from the springs. This is where ARBs come in.
I often like to have the car setup softer for bump handling and weight transfer (for traction mainly) but use the ARBs to control the ultimate roll, sort of the best of both worlds.
ARBs can make the car feel very twitchy if they are too stiff relative to the springs they are paired with, its a balancing act.
Too stiff ARBs will also make the car less stable over very rutted surfaces where there can be large differences between wheel bump positions on an axle so don't over do it there.
Finally I often set up a 4wd car with a both front and rear ARBs (rear slightly stiffer than front) and if I am after a less twitchy car I usually can just pop off the front ARB and reduce that without upsetting the rest of the balance too much.
Really looking forward to the ARB kit for the RB6, that is going to make a big difference to that car and it's damn good already!
stegger
08-06-2013, 08:55 AM
Great answer Roger ;-) just what I was going to say. Hahaha :)
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