Why are people such *%*^ers these days?

[Southwell]

Went to get in my car yesterday and the wing mirrors are hanging off my car, along with my neighbours and someone elses. What possesses people to do this? I would never dream of damaging someone elses property, even if i was drunk!

Then i have to walk to the supermarket only for a group of 20 chavs to start chucking stones at me and my mate, luckily they couldnt hit anything for sh** and stopped when i gave them some choice words.

This place is a joke, noone behaved like this round here back when i was a teenager.

Rant over

[DCM]

I feel for you, it is called living in a liberal society where you can not punish a child, so by the time they get old enough to cause real trouble, they are to big to sort out.

[GRIFF55]

never too big steve! I think everyone should have a pop at the To###rs otherwise this country will be in a worse state than it is now:)
Makes you feel old when you start saying "it wasn't like this when i was a teenager" , doesn't it!!

[DCM]

it wasn't brill, but then I had teachers who could punish you and my mum and dad could actualy physicaly punish you too. Can't do that now, grrrrr best I step away from the kayboard...

[niggs98]

we went through a stage of the local drunks running over our cars every friday night always aiming at my mothers panda and giving it a right good kicking as well for good measure (simply because it was an old fiat) normally removing the wing mirrors as fast as i could put them on. the police did absolutely fap all (as always) so me and my mate billy bat were waiting for them one friday night and took out the lead runners legs just as he leapt for the panda, his face left a bigger dent in the roof than him running over it ever would and it isnt the sort of behaviour i would even condone myself (even tho i did it) but we have never had a car running incident in the 8 years since due to the state of the lad and i will be suprised if we do in the next few years either :thumbsup:

not trying to sway what you do ian but just to let you know that sometimes the little s"£$%^&*((*&^%$£ do get there comupance.

[Southwell]

Makes me feel old and im only 24! haha, thats baddddddddd.

We've even started having kids bringing knifes into school!

[Southwell]

O yeah nath i wouldnt have a problem with confronting them but not when theres 20 of the little scrotes.
Luckily my car wasn't at home otherwise i would be replacing both cars mirrors! But this has swayed me to buy a cheap car now, was gonna go new :(

[mark christopher]

simple answer, no discipline and no punishment for doing it

[ben]

Sorry to hear bout that ian :thumbdown: Id never consider smashing up someone else's property. :bored:

[markwilliamson2001]

I work in a school, and all the kids are complete t*****s...
I gave one kid a bollocking as he was pissing around with a blind when teachers back was turned, (teachers are mostly pretty rubbish at discipline...). The kid stopped it right away, so it doesnt take much LOL.

If they wreck your stuff, wreck them I say!

M.

[ben]

Hmm some teachers are ACE!! haha. One of my teachers used to sell us all cans of coke haha.
Southwell if you want me to go and kick the f*ck through them just call me ;) Ill bring wraggy for some back up aswell :lol:

[ben]

I work in a school, and all the kids are complete t*****s...




Hmm think you have that wrong. SOME kids are toss*rs. Like the little charvers. :woot:

[Richard Lowe]

sometimes the little s"£$%^&*((*&^%$£ do get there comupance.
Vigilante justice :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

Chances are the vigilante would get sent down instead of the offender!

[niggs98]

if they had of called the old bill id of been bolloxed but finally had enough

[Chrislong]

Usually if you grab one and pull him around while shouting at him, his arse will fall out and apologies flood while his mates leg it.

Ofcause if that doesn't happen, well he ran into a wall, several times, didn't he?.... and my knuckles are always red. ;)

[SlowOne]

Sorry to hear about the cars, Soutwell, a real p****r. My daughter had her bike nicked from outside the Globe Theatre this Saturday - broad daylight, on the pavement next to the South Bank (hundreds of people about), the b*****s chopped through the lock with bolt cutters and made off with her pride and joy.

The problem is that they don't get caught. Murder clear-up rate is 97% in this country, and we have one of the lowest murder rates anywhere. Burglary/theft clear-up rate is in the low teens, and we have a very high rate of that. We need more police to catch more criminals.

I sympathise with the 'vigilante' response, but hope it's not getting more prevalent. What's the difference between them breaking the Law, and vigilantes breaking the Law? Locally, those who pester the Police, write to the local paper and their local MP have more success. But some days, I do believe in the right to bear arms!! :D

[SlowOne]

Double post - finger trouble!! :D

[Kopite]

just saw some kids stoning cars on a roundabout whilst they were entering the slip lane. i just said 'lad's, pack it in eh'. i got a response of 'fcuk off you homo'

....sigh :(

[niggs98]

149768 i got a response of 'fcuk off you homo'

....sigh :(

they must know you stan :woot::woot::woot::woot:

joking aside the authorities really need to change the law and sort these little feckers out. can u imagine what the country is gonna be like when one of these little darlings of society gets into power. i will emigrate very quickly

[Kopite]

they do now, i set fire to them

....joke!!!! (but idiots like that deserve a good kicking of some kind)

[Southwell]

Sorry to hear about the cars, Soutwell, a real p****r. My daughter had her bike nicked from outside the Globe Theatre this Saturday - broad daylight, on the pavement next to the South Bank (hundreds of people about), the b*****s chopped through the lock with bolt cutters and made off with her pride and joy.

The problem is that they don't get caught. Murder clear-up rate is 97% in this country, and we have one of the lowest murder rates anywhere. Burglary/theft clear-up rate is in the low teens, and we have a very high rate of that. We need more police to catch more criminals.

I sympathise with the 'vigilante' response, but hope it's not getting more prevalent. What's the difference between them breaking the Law, and vigilantes breaking the Law? Locally, those who pester the Police, write to the local paper and their local MP have more success. But some days, I do believe in the right to bear arms!! :D

I can sympathse, my g/f took my £500 bike to work the other month (first mistake :lol:) and it got stolen, police wouldnt do anything even though a camera is pointing towards the bike rack!
I guess it's because im not David Cameron! :mad:

[lochness42]

I feel sorry for you. At least something what we don't have here (yet). :bored::eh?:

[glypo]

What we need are real police.

When I was at uni I worked in a convenience store. Some twat chucked a bottle of cider in my face as I refused to serve him (drunken kids had smashed up my fence at home not far away so many times, so no chance would I server under-age). Anyway I phoned the police, we detained the dude. We had to let him go in the end as the police didn't think my bleeding face was serious assualt.

They said that someone would come and take a statement the next day. TWO WEEKS LATER I had someone take a statement. During these two weeks that the police were too busy to see to me I must have driven past about 20 traffic officers. One time there was one of those mobile vans with 3 police in, and two policemen on motorbikes right next to each other. Good to know there are 5 policemen to stop you doing 34mph in a 30mph zone - yet none to attend to an assault. And despite having cctv, a name and 5 witnesses a mistake in police paperwork meant that nothing happened.

And when the shop next door to my home got broken into, and I phoned the police. Told them burgulars were still in the shop, a nice swift 24 hours later the police turned up......

[savageman25]

i no how you all feel, the police dont do alot round and i dont no if its just me but ive noticed that with these little s**ts theres always a few big kids all being controlled by one little one, theyre all hard with there mates but when there on own theyre nothing

[Nige55]

I really didn't want to read this thread, it just highlights the messed up state of affairs that I didn't want to move back to. I do want to move back, but it really saddens me how things are now. My parents live in a cottage, a few years ago local evil kids decided to set fire to the animals surrounding their neighbours cottage (goats, chickens etc). They all burned alive. Made me wanna get the next flight back and rip these' kids heads off, and I ain't a violent person ! What I want to ask is (this is a REALLY important question for my piece of mind), - what can we do to deter these twats legally ? - without physical contact ? (with more and more knives around). Is it illegal to threaten them with a can of deodorant and a lighter ? They are not illegal after all. Sorry for my naive question, I've been away a long time and I don't know the 'rules' these days.

[savageman25]

Thats just sick and wrong what they did, like you im not a violent person but them kids deserve to burn alive, see how they like it!

[Tom3012]

I'm only 18 but I do know where your all coming from! I hate what these 'people' do, it gives all people of my age, and there abouts, a really bad reputation. The looks I get sometimes of some people is almost, upsetting? Just because I'm young they tarnish us all with the same brush. To be totally honest, I can't wait to be older!

[MK999]

I know what you mean Tom ! while at uni I took to wearing hoodies, it's like essential student wear :p but wearing it around here (home) people look at you like you're about to mug them ! :o

[glypo]

For sure, the people who judge others by age or appearance are just as stupid as the idiots that go around smashing up cars.

But it doesn't matter where you are in life, you will always find people that dislike you or judge you without even knowing you. Whether it be for age or other reasons, you just have to live with it. At least those idiots aren't smashing up your car though.

[ashleyb4]

Back in my day....

O wait it is my day it makes me feel ashamed of my generation. Seeing some of the skum that comes into work and steals stuff it pisses me off especially as some of them where in my year at school and its like thats so and so...

Bring back national service.

A

[James]

As mentioned above, i was a little scared even to start reading this thread as i knew everyone on here would have a story or stories of crime/anti-social behaviour these days. Some of you will know that i live on a farm and maybe think crime would be lower in the countryside, sadly not, i would imagine my average for having to ring the police to report crime
is once very three weeks, i must say however 95% of the time the police are very quick to respond, i know we all see wasted manpower but in my experience our force are pretty good.
The best one was when two lads broke into my house trying to steal my hard earned laptop, cash and car, they ran at my dad with a screwdriver as he calmly phoned 999 to give them the number plate, they caught them within 5 miles after a car chase. I could fill pages and pages with what happens; from stealing copper wires to fly tipping (probably every 10 days).
To try and help, we now let the armed section and dog section use our farm and buildings for training, ive never seen a scrap man look so scared when he drove into the yard once to be confronted by 15 armed police and 3 dogs.

[Lee]

Sorry to hear that James, it sounds like different areas bring different problems. If i was in the house when someone broke in i would have great pleasure in "defending" myself and family. But there is a flip side to this, if you do something to someone, you never know what is going to come back on your door which is the worrying thing when you have small children.

[DAVIDZX5]

I also woke up this morning found that my mums car had been broken into..........

they stole my ipod, some money and some cd's

:mad:

[lochness42]

Sad things happens these days. As I see 13-14 years old girls drunk and smoking I want to cry. I can't understand what's happening to this world. (I'm almost 19 so most people still think that I belong to them - worse than anything) :(

[mole2k]

Makes me feel old and im only 24! haha, thats baddddddddd.

We've even started having kids bringing knifes into school!

This is what amazes me, im only 24 as well so it's not that long ago from I was a teenager but people genuinely didnt act that bad when I was in the 15~19 age bracket. Although the problem over here seems to be less overall in comparison to England anyway.

[Kopite]

you'll probably find loads of police wanting to do you for 34mph rather than attend an assault, because they can fine you for speeding...money!!

Yes, if someone breaks into where i live and threatens the people i care about, without hesitation, i'd beat them to death with a crowbar or something else heavy (or at least try).....and then go to jail or be sued.

the punishment should fit the crime. if someone is warped enough to set fire to farm animals, then they should be set fire to themselves.

Anyone remember reading in the news about a bunch of tossers that broke into a house in liverpool, to be confronted by the owner of the house....Duncan Ferguson!! Oh man, i bet he gave them such a good and deserved kicking!!! :thumbsup::woot:

[Lee]

I remember that stan, i bet when they saw him they looked up at him and just knew what was coming to them:thumbsup:

[DCM]

I think it depends on how you look at it, we have gangs of 'lads' that loitre but you mustn't let them intimidate you, which is pretty dam hard to do. Most won't say boo to a goose, but we are in an age where the press and media feed us this fear too. I won't be so naieve as to say that things are bad though, as when I was in school, we had running fights with the next comp, we had fights in school too, but I don't ever remember a group picking on one person and kicking the stuffing out of them.

I also don't think it is soley the lack of discipline at home either, I think the degredation of the quality of programmes, the films that are produced, the computer games also, and yes I know these are rated over 18, for most, but they are freely available. The easy access to the interenet and sites like YouTube, who, really should have a social responsibility to remove unsuitable content and do random checks on what is being posted.

Basicaly, the boundaries have been basicaly removed, so the people who are willing to, will constantly push the limits till they come up to a boundary, be it smashing wing mirrors to breaking in and assaulting senior citizens.

Maybe, like in some areas, a curfew is a good idea, personaly I think putting more resources into have a physical Police presence on the streets, and them not being tied up dealing with paperwork for a good portion of their time, also allowing them more power and not be open to accusation so easily either.

[millzy]

dude thats bad
ive seen it done and its not good. not even funny

ive had my share of beat downs as a kid most by gangs of who one on one you know you could beat but 10 of them onto you it gets hard- tought me to fight dirty and to work out the fassted way to win the fight

way i look at it is you can run or fight, and even if you lose its only going to hurt as much as the last time you lost

[telboy]

The worst thing we ever did was spit on the pavement!...and we'd get bollocked for doing that by some old codger if we were caught!

Police do shit all. One of my relatives was killed a couple of year back after some knob was causing trouble. The police were watching him but 'couldn't do anything until he caused actual damage', so after winding the police up through ranting and raving, telling them to arrest him (in a cocky manor), he then walked round the corner and thumped the first person he met....which was my relative, he then fell and hit his head on the kerb....end of story.

If the police had the power to just sort him out when he was pratting about, it wouldn't have happened.

But as many have said. Discipline at an early age is no longer there.
If we messed around at school, we had the blackboard rubber thrown at our heads!

Our neighbour told us the other day that some Chav was having a good old stare though my car window at the stereo, so I sat up untill about 3 waiting for something to happen, cos if it did, I was going to go out and 'greet him'. I had one knicked before and it wasn't the cost of the stereo that was the problem, as it was only a basic ford one. but it was the cost of replacing the door skin after they ripped the lock out to get in...about £300, for £50 stereo.

They need to bring punishment and public floggin back!

[mobile chicane]

Sorry to hear that James, it sounds like different areas bring different problems. If i was in the house when someone broke in i would have great pleasure in "defending" myself and family. But there is a flip side to this, if you do something to someone, you never know what is going to come back on your door which is the worrying thing when you have small children.


I dont have any children so if someone breaks in to my gaff its a whack over the head for them from the baseball bat next to my bed then strip em naked tie them up into the back of the van 2 hours to the welsh mountains and drop them off near the only pub in a VERY LOCAL village.

we always go out away from the house on haloween leaving the letterbox taped up and a no trick or treat sign on the window.


has to be said though kids around here never give us any grief .

[SlowOne]

they must know you stan :woot::woot::woot::woot:

joking aside the authorities really need to change the law and sort these little feckers out. can u imagine what the country is gonna be like when one of these little darlings of society gets into power. i will emigrate very quicklyThere's no need to change the Law, just to enforce it. not enough coppers, too many Laws - more coppers would balance it up!

I really didn't want to read this thread, it just highlights the messed up state of affairs that I didn't want to move back to. I do want to move back, but it really saddens me how things are now. My parents live in a cottage, a few years ago local evil kids decided to set fire to the animals surrounding their neighbours cottage (goats, chickens etc). They all burned alive. Made me wanna get the next flight back and rip these' kids heads off, and I ain't a violent person ! What I want to ask is (this is a REALLY important question for my piece of mind), - what can we do to deter these twats legally ? - without physical contact ? (with more and more knives around). Is it illegal to threaten them with a can of deodorant and a lighter ? They are not illegal after all. Sorry for my naive question, I've been away a long time and I don't know the 'rules' these days.IF you want to deter them in the short term, regularly ringing the Police every time something happens, and then writing to the Chief Constable and the local paper if it doesn't usually gets a response. Most of all, in the long term, make sure you vote. Vote for anyone, it doesn't matter who. Tell every canvasser at every Election that you will only be voting for someone who quadruples the Police Constables on the beat.

The real problem is that people don't vote. If everyone who didn't vote voted for the same party, they would be the Government. This Government was elected on 36% of the 63% of people who voted - feck all! I'll get the usual "they're all a bunch of tossers, don't bother voting" replies, but whatever they are they spend our taxes. If you want your taxes spent differently, for God's sake get out and vote.

I'm only 18 but I do know where your all coming from! I hate what these 'people' do, it gives all people of my age, and there abouts, a really bad reputation. The looks I get sometimes of some people is almost, upsetting? Just because I'm young they tarnish us all with the same brush. To be totally honest, I can't wait to be older!Well said! It is good to remember that 19m of the 60m of us are aged from 5 to 29, and we are talking about a handful. Despite that fact that not enough are caught, for 60m people there are only 80,000 in jail. Crime isn't nice, the people who do it are ***%&^O(£)£s, but overall, there's more good than bad.

The worst thing we ever did was spit on the pavement!...and we'd get bollocked for doing that by some old codger if we were caught!

Police do shit all. One of my relatives was killed a couple of year back after some knob was causing trouble. The police were watching him but 'couldn't do anything until he caused actual damage', so after winding the police up through ranting and raving, telling them to arrest him (in a cocky manor), he then walked round the corner and thumped the first person he met....which was my relative, he then fell and hit his head on the kerb....end of story.

If the police had the power to just sort him out when he was pratting about, it wouldn't have happened.

But as many have said. Discipline at an early age is no longer there.
If we messed around at school, we had the blackboard rubber thrown at our heads!

Our neighbour told us the other day that some Chav was having a good old stare though my car window at the stereo, so I sat up untill about 3 waiting for something to happen, cos if it did, I was going to go out and 'greet him'. I had one knicked before and it wasn't the cost of the stereo that was the problem, as it was only a basic ford one. but it was the cost of replacing the door skin after they ripped the lock out to get in...about £300, for £50 stereo.

They need to bring punishment and public floggin back!I hope that if a copper did any of that to your child, even if it was by mistake, you'd not sue. They stand back because there is another type of a******e - the one's who will sue at the drop of a hat if they think there is the slightest possibility that they can screw us (our taxes pay the compensation) over for a big payout. IMHO, these people are as bad as the scum who nicked my daughter's bike. Take responsibility, not legal action. :mad:

[Alfonzo]

I'm liking what I'm hearing Mr SlowOne sir! Wise words.:thumbsup:

There's always been agro in society, but I do get the feeling things have taken a turn for the worse of late. Not sure if it's purely a British thing - but I have sad feeling it mostly is :(.

I feel very sad for those in their teens and early twenties who get tarred with the same brush. It only takes a small minority of tw*ts to ruin things.

[josh_smaxx]

I agree with all this, it makes me sick to be part of this generation, but to be honest i find its more the 12-15 age braket thats the worst in schools.

Me and about 30 others would be stood in one part of school minding our own business having lunch, socialising ect when a good 50 or so 13 year olds would line up 20 yards away and hurl abuse and full coke cans at us, now full coke cans hurt, alot. But did any staff in the school ever do anything? no, they stand back and watch, yet a fair few of my friends now have permentant negative education records because of chasing and unfortunately (for them) chatching the little b******* and beating the livng shite out of them, yet they still come back a week later when they recover and do the same, its a never ending circle till you leave school and they realise if they meet you in the street they better hope they can run faster than you.

[mark christopher]

too many do gooders, you carnt treat em like that, the criminal is more looked after than the victim, take saudi, one prison and its not full! why? because if they do somin wrong they know there going to get a punishment harsher than the crime.

[SlowOne]

Not quite - you've forgotten the bit about crime not being part of their acceptable behaviour, and about when a crime is committed, they get caught. The punishment isn't the deterrent, it's getting frowned upon by your peers, and getting caught.

We have many punishments harsher than the crime, and we have had the assessment of fines by your disposable income returned to Law without anyone realising. That means that, for the same offence, people earning more will pay more. Even our punishment no longer fits the crime, it fits your ability to pay.

But, Mark, you don't have a say in this because, as I recall it, you don't vote. Thanks to you, and millions like you, a bunch of tossers get elected, and then do what they like because they know you won't vote them out. Those that vote them in think they are doing the right thing, yet the majority of people I know think they are doing the wrong thing. And when that majority are asked, well, surprise, surprise, they don't vote!!!

Add non-voters to people who sue and the buggers who stole my daughter's bike to the list of people who are part of the problem... (:) ;))

[telboy]

I hope that if a copper did any of that to your child, even if it was by mistake, you'd not sue. They stand back because there is another type of a******e - the one's who will sue at the drop of a hat if they think there is the slightest possibility that they can screw us (our taxes pay the compensation) over for a big payout. IMHO, these people are as bad as the scum who nicked my daughter's bike. Take responsibility, not legal action. :mad:

Agreed, I think that the 'sue at the drop of a hat' culture is rediculous. Its silly things like 'the nitt nurse' at schools that get removed because some parent decided that a nurse looking through their kids hair is classed as 'abuse' therefor the schools no long used a nurse for this sort of thing. So now at least 2/3 times every school year we have to mess around sorting head lice, because the mentioned parent don't give a toss about their kids health, and so let them go to school with them.

And I know what you mean with the police too. The idiots that threaten to sue the police, just because they touched their arm whilst putting them into the back of the van.

It needs sorting. Stop people from taking legal action for silly things. It'll only take a couple of instances to be thrown out of court to stop these companies encouraging people.

I was horrified to see 'kiddy claims' on the tv the other week!
A kids park near my old home was taken down, because one of the 'idiot' neighbours sued the council after her kid fell from a swing and broke his arm.
...KIDS HAVE ACCIDENTS! After that my daughter had no where to play.....and neither did the kid that broke his arm.

[ashleyb4]

Some people need there heads checking i fell of stuff and banged my head loads and i turned out fine:p my parents didnt sue anyone. How pathetic.

A

[RLGfx]

...i fell of stuff and banged my head loads and i turned out fine:p

A

That's open for debate surely...

[SlowOne]

When I was a kid...

they gave thalidomide to mothers with morning sickness (youngsters, look it up on Wiki)
my cot was painted with lead-based paint...
my Dad's car had no seat belts, let alone an airbag or ABS...
the park had swings with chains, and stone floors...
there were only zebra crossings without any traffic lights...
there were only Routemaster buses with open-back platforms...
there were on cycle lanes...
there were no barriers on the central reservation of motorways...
...

I wonder how I ever made it this far without the Government and the EU to hold my hand... :D :D

[ben]

The way i see it is. "anything is as dangerous as you make it"

[mole2k]

There is always the theory that people have a preset danger level so making things safer makes them take more risks therefore by trying to make things safer you actually make it worse. I think there is lots of evidence of that around these days.

[cwilson]

we'll im 19 now and i am fed up of being seen as some lout who goes smashing the crap out of random strangers. im all for bringing back public floggings. it will teach the little b******ds a lesson they wont soon forget. and the police shold do more but they cant because as said before they're afraid of being sued which is understandable so again as said before make it illegal to sue for a stupid offence.

when i was younger i went througth at least 7 different schools. why? bullying. and every time i went to teachers for help all they would is say "i'll deal with it in a minute". did they hell do anything. it was only when one of the teachers saw me being choked with a skipping rope by one of the bullys that they did anything. what happened to the guy who was stragling me? one week susspention and a sat morn detention. thats all. so basiclly that kid got off scot free for atemted murder. and he could stay at home and play video games all day. did he learn a lesson? no. and its the people from my age group who are causing all the problems. whenever i go up to the shops i have to go past at least three groups of kids causing problems outside the shops all from my age group. the same people who i grew up with and it so really tiks me off.

i reckon the govment should do what some other countries do(i dont know which does this so dont ask me) one country chops peoples fingers of for stealing so why dont we start doing that here. chop the little s***s fingers off so that they cant steal anything else.

now i banger race in my spare time but what annoys me is that the goverment tries to change some people so they become constructive parts off the comummity so lets them race bangers and they pay for just about all there equipment that they need. all in all a total off just over £2000 with a race car and tow motor and its bought for them. yet the rest of us have to pay for all our equipment and it uselly used stuff yet they get all brand new stuff for free. arrggh it makes me so angy.

and to top it off when my sister accitdently broke the side window on her nova. some cheeky little swine tried to steal some stuff out off it while me and my dad was looking. and the car was in the front garden with the broken window next to a large bush. so how he could see that the window was broke from path is beyond me. but when me and my dad came out the front and shouted at him he dropped what he had and pegged it. but he couldn't have been older then 16.

[telboy]

Yeah thats something that annoys me too. Do a crime...and get an education or a cool job! Whats that all about? We shouldn't be giving these dick heads second chances. What about all us that have lived by the rules all our lives?.....we get crapped on thats what!

Our government will never do what other countries do regarding punishment, because we have 'human rights'.....or should I say Criminals have human rights.

Someone breaks into your home and attacks you, you fight back and put them in hospital. They then use 'their' human rights and take YOU to court for gbh!?

To be honest, if someone came into my house and attacked my family, I'd quite happily go down for murder!......Then get my qualifications whilst I'm in there...watching sky tv and playing pool.

Having been at the hospital lots recently with my missus, I found out that people in hospital have to pay more for their tv than what inmates in prisons do!:o

[budgio]

Bring back national service.
i,d vote for that

[Crazy L]

I suggest logging on to some forum somewhere and having a bitch instead of burning livestock, blocking the roads, throwing eggs at MPs etc and generally making life hard for the government.

Why does everyone pay a tv licence? because you're told to, even though its a rip off, £144 a year to simply own a tv? you're having a laugh, dont pay it, if noone paid it, they'd scrap it.

Home defence, beat the living shat out of the scum who break in, bundle them in the boot and drive them out into the country, noone will ever know, or care. Remember, Tony Martins a 'kin hero in my eyes.

Human rights, if you continue to vote for the party that champions such a do-gooder charter, then you have no reason to bitch about it, btw, I have never voted for this sheister government, I voted blue. At least they said they'd keep the pound, which brings me on to my next subject concerning unelected scotsmen and the governing of England.....:mad:

Which I wont go into.

A million online petitions wont solve a damn thing, if we want OUR country to be run the way WE want it to, WE have to do something about it. Overthrow the government, instate a new party.

One with values of common sense, discipline, an interest in the peoples of its land.

If voted in, I would burn the Human Rights charter live on TV, and while I was at it, do the same to the EU treaty, again, live on British TV.

I wont be corrupted by anyone, if the EU asked for my signature, I'd tell them where to go.

I'd have prisons built, out at sea. disused oil rigs say.

Keep the Pound

smaller government = smaller taxes

National Anthem sung in all schools and Union Jack flown on ALL civil and public buildings.

And they are just a few of my policies

Vote for me and I will rescue this country from the quagmire of shat that we are in currently.:thumbsup:

[telboy]

Human rights, if you continue to vote for the party that champions such a do-gooder charter, then you have no reason to bitch about it, btw, I have never voted for this sheister government, I voted blue. At least they said they'd keep the pound, which brings me on to my next subject concerning unelected scotsmen and the governing of England.....:mad:



....neither have I.:D

I always vote for one that I know wont win, because I don't trust any of them. But at least that way I CAN have a say.;)

[SlowOne]

Yeah thats something that annoys me too. Do a crime...and get an education or a cool job! Whats that all about? We shouldn't be giving these dick heads second chances. What about all us that have lived by the rules all our lives?.....we get crapped on thats what!

Our government will never do what other countries do regarding punishment, because we have 'human rights'.....or should I say Criminals have human rights.

Someone breaks into your home and attacks you, you fight back and put them in hospital. They then use 'their' human rights and take YOU to court for gbh!?

To be honest, if someone came into my house and attacked my family, I'd quite happily go down for murder!......Then get my qualifications whilst I'm in there...watching sky tv and playing pool.

Having been at the hospital lots recently with my missus, I found out that people in hospital have to pay more for their tv than what inmates in prisons do!:oThat's another interesting departure of the modern age - you screw up and you get rewarded for it. If one more politician has a big idea to reward the late, lame and lazy with some scheme to get them back into society, I think I'll scream!! :D :D

Bring back national service.
i,d vote for thatBrilliant idea... Send them off at the taxpayer's expense to learn to kill, and operate high-grade weapons, and then bring them back into society - want to think that one through again? ;)

[Snakesonaplayne6]

Well said! It is good to remember that 19m of the 60m of us are aged from 5 to 29, and we are talking about a handful. Despite that fact that not enough are caught, for 60m people there are only 80,000 in jail. Crime isn't nice, the people who do it are ***%&^O(£)£s, but overall, there's more good than bad.

Here in the states we have the opposite problem. There are countless examples of overcrowding of the prison system, and we have a 40% privatized prison system. Over here people get arrested for pointless shite. Whereas in the U.K. a kid might get an ASBO, here they would get sent to Juvenile hall (kiddie jail). I think the U.S. and U.K. should swap police forces for a couple years.:D

[SlowOne]

Careful with your praise of ASBOs, they are one of the biggest infringements on civil liberties known to man.

All that's needed to get an ASBO is a complaint from someone to the Police, with their evidence. There is no trial, no proper collection of evidence, no defence attorny, no judge, no jury - all it needs is a policeman to tick a few boxes on a checklist.

However, if you break your ASBO, you go to jail. You can end up in jail without ever receiving a trial, without ever being given a chance to present your case, and with no right to appeal. When this happened in Iraq, someone decided to invade and kill people - the same person who thought up ASBOs. While this is happening in Zimbabwe, no one gives a s**t.

The UK is fast becoming a dictatorship. Two years ago, an 80 year-old man heckled Tony Blair at the Labour Party Conference. He was arrested under the Prevention of Terrorism Act and held for 24 hours without charge, and without representation. That's the act of a third-world dictator, not a 21st century democracy.

At least if someone goes to Juvenile Hall, they have had a trial. Given a choice, your system does at least sound like a civilised society, whereas ASBOs are unjust and undemocratic. Don't get me wrong, people who break the Law must be caught and prosecuted, but to do that we need more Police and Prosecutors. You might not like what you have, but ASBOs are not the answer.

[Snakesonaplayne6]

Careful with your praise of ASBOs, they are one of the biggest infringements on civil liberties known to man.

By no means am I saying ASBO's are the way to go. And you don't get a "trial" per say, in the case of juvy', it's really where you tell the judge why you don't want to go, and then they send you away.:(

[rcluke]

all chavs should be shot.

thats my view

[savageman25]

i wouldnt say all chavs should be shot as i no i few chavs who are ok, its the ones that hang around outside shops and things who cause trouble who should be delt with, i cant stand the little s**ts but then again its not all there fault, its the parents who dont give a toss what there kids do, ive complained to some of these so called 'parents' and all they say is ill deal with it when you no bloody full well that there kids will be out doing the same thing later that day.

[cwilson]

all chavs should be shot.

i think so to but as savvyman said all the little shits who hang outside shops and steal people bikes and stuff should be hung dwarn and quartered(for people dont know what that is look it up):thumbsup: but only those ones

heres a good joke. why is 3 chavs in a polo going over a cliff a shame?

[Lee]

because you could have got 2 more in?
Quote:

hung dwarn and quartered(for people dont know what that is look it up)quote

I also looked it up and its definateley Hung, drawn and quartered

[savageman25]

Its not just chavs though causing trouble though, if you look at alot of kid/teenager crime some of it is done by one man bands, in other words people who have failed at school and everything else in there sorry exscuse for a life and get there kicks from causing trouble, but as i said 9 times out of 10 i reckon its the bloody parents fault.

[SlowOne]

I appreciate I'll get flamed, or something, for this...

If I just read what you typed, and took that as some indication of your level of education, then the spelling and grammar would lead me to believe that none of you managed to complete school.

No for know, there for their, delt for dealt, definateley for definitely, and a lack of capital letters, punctuation and sentence construction. Yes, it was different in my day, and yes, I realise it might seem a bit petty to those who posted. Ask yourselves; if all the image you had of someone was what they typed on here, how many chavs, who failed school, might we assume there are...? Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to attach labels to people we see conforming to a stereotype, and wonder what would happen if we couldn't see them...?

Just a thought... or two... :)

[DaveG28]

Hopefully I won't get too castigated for this, but....

For everyone complaining how terrible human rights etc are, remember that its only some parts of them that are creating problems, and also that other countires with the same human rights acts don't seem to end up having to give criminals compensation when they get bashed by a homeowner etc.

Its really important that we don't lose our human rights as a nation, remember we always come at this as assuming we know who's guilty and who isn't etc, when that isn't the case. Take Colin Stagg, plenty of people would have said no human rights for a killer, same with Barry George, could have been dead by the time we realised the wrong guy was locked up, if we had the death penalty etc.

So everyone please remember, if you think things like being locked up for over a month without being charged is a good idea, rememberit could be you locked up, you know your not a criminal but the point is that doesn't matter!!

BTW, I am NOT saying I support a lot of the rubbish that goes on in the name of human rights, like compo for crim's etc, I am just saying its a balancing act!

[Lee]

So everyone please remember, if you think things like being locked up for over a month without being charged is a good idea, rememberit could be you locked up, you know your not a criminal but the point is that doesn't matter!!



Luckily it was only 36 hours and an escorted flight back from khazakstan :woot:

[savageman25]

not meaning any offence to slowone, or trying to start an argument but i can use punctuation and spelling but i just dont do it on forums because i only get about 20 mins aday max on the comp so have to be quick
sorry if im sounding abit argumentative though

[Lee]

I know what you mean mate, i can construct a sentence correctly also, i just choose not too on a forum, its part of my human rights :p

[SlowOne]

I know what you mean mate, i can construct a sentence correctly also, i just choose not too on a forum, its part of my human rights :pSo wouldn't it be my human right to brand you a chav when you type like that?? :D :D

My 30-odd years experience of RC tells me that the likelihood of 'talking' to a complete a******e, or knife-wielding chav, on forums like these are pretty low, so how people type and spell doesn't phase me much. I'm just not so sure when on other forums...

[savageman25]

im abit lost now, are you calling people who type wrong chavs or not?
lol

[Lee]

I know what you mean Slow one.

It is easy to spot the really thick people anyway, im not saying they are bad people but they do stand out in the crowd.;)

You can call me a chav if you want, ill just down a bottle of white lightning and stab you whilst wearing my hoodie :woot:


( the above was a joke)

[niggs98]

I know what you mean Slow one.

It is easy to spot the really thick people anyway, im not saying they are bad people but they do stand out in the crowd.;)

You can call me a chav if you want, ill just down a bottle of white lightning and stab you whilst wearing my hoodie :woot:


( the above was a joke)


does this mean we can start calling ya chav mag rather than lee mag :woot::woot::woot:

[Lee]

I think chav mag sounds wrong, lee-mag does seem to have stuck tough, i dont mind though it could be a lot worse :woot:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Sad things happens these days. As I see 13-14 years old girls drunk and smoking I want to cry. I can't understand what's happening to this world. (I'm almost 19 so most people still think that I belong to them - worse than anything) :(

It's even worse around here, lot of pregnant teens have been walking the streets latey. It's truely very sad. :yawn:

There is also a guy that my brother used to be freinds with that made suicide notes to kill his family and stuff. And his parents house was abandoned recently and him and another guy broke into the house and sniffed canned air.
Both of them got arrested and got charged for breaking and entering, and a bunch of other charges like stolen property etc...
It was in the newspaper a week ago. Pretty crazy...

[Nolan BJ4WE]

all chavs should be shot.

thats my view

And Mine!!:thumbsup:

[lochness42]

It's even worse around here, lot of pregnant teens have been walking the streets latey. It's truely very sad.
14 years old girls that allready had sex is nothing uncommon here. It's just not that common that they're pregnant (maybe they think a little and use condoms).

[telboy]

Its not just chavs though causing trouble though, if you look at alot of kid/teenager crime some of it is done by one man bands, in other words people who have failed at school and everything else in there sorry exscuse for a life and get there kicks from causing trouble, but as i said 9 times out of 10 i reckon its the bloody parents fault.

Thing is, I can't accept all the 'Oh I failed at school my life is crap' malarky.
I failed at school, my life was crap. But you know what, instead of hanging outside the shops with other losers, I went and got a bloody job! Ok it was only a YTS (for those of you that are too young to know what it means, its 'Youth Training Scheme'. Its where you work the same hours as everyone else - sometimes more- and you only got paid £29.50p a week!) but it got me off the street and out of trouble! so in a year or so, I got employed full time and 2year later had my own car, and drove past all the losers that were hanging outside the shops that I used to know at school.
And you know what? It felt bloody good doing it.
No, I wasn't on the wage that we all dream of, but at least I had something of my own that I didn't have to nick!
But 10 years down the line, I had moved on in the company and was earning a bloody good wage. not bad for a failure!
Unfortunately the company changed hands and I left. But after 16yrs there, I'd done the job I wanted to do, but without the qualifications, and I'd owned my own company for a while too.
But now I've got everything I want. I'm not well off anymore, but I'm happy, happy I didn't stand outside the shops insulting old people as they walk past.

Done:p

[sime46]

Well said that man. Here here!
:thumbsup:

[telboy]

Thanks, thank you very much....I'm here all week.:p:woot:

[Crazy L]

Yup, the whole "I left school with nothing" just doesn't wash. a good mate of mine left school with nothing, done pepper picking etc, y'know, all the joey jobs.

Qualified as a financial advisor, him and a mate set up a website selling ringtones, and it snowballed from there. I saw him a month ago, he told me he had just bought a social networking site for 400k:o:o

So I offered him some of my smart price biscuits.

I'll tell you what it is, its the liberal elite who have ruined the whole thing. 1st came the abolition of corporal punishment, then they said you couldnt give kids the cane at school, now you cant smack your kids, or defend your own home.

You see kids playing in the road, they dont know what the green cross code is. Yobbos get off scot free, etc, here's the rub, no discipline, thats the problem, if I did something wrong when i was little, I got a good hiding, I learned not to do it again. I had good parents who knew right from wrong and drove that home at an early age.

These scummy parents dont give a flying fig what their "kid" gets up to, as long as it isnt bothering them. Well, here's an idea, dont have kids you thick #####, oh, I forgot, if you didnt have them, you wouldn't have a house and you'd have to get a job, oh, sorry, I understand now.

This is it, these yobbos are just a passport to a council house. nothing more.

[cwilson]

that is so true. i was brought up like that but after my dad hit my sister a bit hard the concil moved in and took us into care for 4 years. the four worst years of my life. we keep getting moved around from place to place. we must have moved about four or five times a year. eventually we got moved back home but i wasnt the same as if i had grown up here. but i turned out ok. but why is it that someone who stayed at home all they're life turn out so bad. for the reasons said above. no discipline. so true my area is full of them kids with parents who dont give a shit about their kids. the only way they will care is if their kid gets run over, die and they lose they're concil house.

[Mike Hudson]

i hate the fact that not much can be done these days, i'm sure if some bigshot like alan sugar had his car nicked there would be police everywhere after the thieves. I've had my bike nicked twice and been assaulted for it another 2 times which one of i have a nice scar for standing up to the F****r i wasnt going to let them pry it out my hands on either occasion and didn't, this was in the space of just over a year and had plenty people eyeing my bikes up, the police say they would keep an eye out but i highly doubt that. The local bike shop and mates was more help...had it seen 3 times and informed the police of the whereabouts each time and had **** all done about it. Theres no justice or punishment these days that will deter people like this anymore if i catch anyone trying to steal whether it be mine or anyone elses property I'll follow them and find out where they live and send over a noce police mate i know whos built like iron to give them a nice visit he isnt merciful and neither are his coworkers!

[savageman25]

sorry if i my last post was a bit out of order but what i really meant is that not all kids who have failed at school are w*****S but the ones who nick other peoples stuff and cause trouble are ussually the ones who are going to live off benefits, in other words, OUR BLOODY WELL EARNED MONEY!!!.
I mean i can now honestly say that i got my gcse results two days ago and they arnt brilliant.
but im not gonna go out and cause trouble and nick things.
Im going to phone up the army careers office and find out if i can still sign up.

[b4rs]

good man savage.

i tooo like every other young un' on here dont want to be branded.

i unfortunatly used to share a school with some of these wankers.

and as said. most of the really bad ones are in the lower years.

like 8 and 9 and 10. (for you older ppl thats around 13,14,15.)

i too shared a school with idiots who would do stupid stuff like run taps and block sinks in the toilets so they locked them and then people had to pee outside but then if caught would get a bollocking!!

and i also live in the area where someone put a firework up a yorkshire terriers bum and let it off.

that is true sickness and i really can understand where these abxolute immoral people get there kicks.

shoot them, shoot their parents and shove a "NAPALM BOMB" firework up there arses.

the government needs to bring the foreign laws in.

you steal, you loose a hand.

you rapem you loose your genitalia

simple.

[cwilson]

well i have had a couple of things stolen but to stop them stealing my bikes i tend to ride older bikes but not to old. but the most annoying thing was i got a micro scooter stolen from down the side of my mates house and it wasnt visable from the street.

[savageman25]

here here! Very well said!

[savageman25]

oh yeah i remember that cwilson and no offence but it wasnt even new or anything, the little s**t must of been snooping around my bloody front garden!

[telboy]

sorry if i my last post was a bit out of order but what i really meant is that not all kids who have failed at school are w*****S but the ones who nick other peoples stuff and cause trouble are ussually the ones who are going to live off benefits, in other words, OUR BLOODY WELL EARNED MONEY!!!.
I mean i can now honestly say that i got my gcse results two days ago and they arnt brilliant.
but im not gonna go out and cause trouble and nick things.
Im going to phone up the army careers office and find out if i can still sign up.

I didn't take offence at what you wrote.:D:p
It just does my head in when people blame things on their past. Beleive me I've got a brother who can't be arsed to go and do owt, and is an alco'. All he does his blame his past....yet he had the same upbringing as I did and went to the same school and got better results.
I just tell him to pull himself to gether and come back into the real world.

And the example of myself showed that not all failures turn out to be shop huggers.

[savageman25]

'shophuggers' i like that, thats my new word of the week lol