Quad flight videos...

[neallewis]

Here is my latest quad flight video, where I try my Naza in Attn mode, and then have a practice in full manual mode (switched in at 2:30) and in and out of that mode afterwards. its manic! going to need to practice in that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YsLP-rmD4w
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[neallewis]

Another video from tonight. Camera is struggling a bit in the sunset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuXo-af3mtw

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[simon]

A quick video of me trying some flips etc..great fun!..the quad is an armmatan 360 CNC ally quad...almost unbreakable.....1800kv motors..simon K flashed esc's..KK2 board.....I have a spare armattan quad for sale if anyones interested,,same specs..email simonlanc@aol.com
http://youtu.be/s2zP5RBGkZA

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[andys]

Keychain camera on my 330.

Very, very windy in the local park, with my kids on their bikes. Ended up having to stop flying it as the wind kept taking it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMw4lNi__x0

[neallewis]

A quick video of me trying some flips etc..great fun!..the quad is an armmatan 360 CNC ally quad...almost unbreakable.....1800kv motors..simon K flashed esc's..KK2 board.....


That's awesome Simon. Shows the potential of the KK2 board off well.

[Danny Harrison]

A quick video of me trying some flips etc..great fun!..the quad is an armmatan 360 CNC ally quad...almost unbreakable.....1800kv motors..simon K flashed esc's..KK2 board.....I have a spare armattan quad for sale if anyones interested,,same specs..email simonlanc@aol.com
http://youtu.be/s2zP5RBGkZA

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Nice quad,so powerful! How much for the spare? pm me :)

[simon]

That's awesome Simon. Shows the potential of the KK2 board off well.

Thanks...yes the KK2 board is very good..very easy to set up......and the simon K flashed esc's make the quad much more responsive....

[neallewis]

Thanks...yes the KK2 board is very good..very easy to set up......and the simon K flashed esc's make the quad much more responsive....

Which model of ESC are they? Also, what motor/prop combo?

[simon]

Hi,
Esc's are hobbywing Ubec 20 amp,simon K flashed.....motors are RC timer 2822/12...1800KV..with 8.45 props.....

[andys]

Simon.

Looks awesome - question for you.

Are you flying with self level switched on for the KK or not?

I've updated to 1.5 firmware and I can fly it nicely with self level on - if I turn it off it's bloody hard to fly as it does not level up.

Not sure if this is normal - and I just need to learn, or if i've done something wrong. Basically, with self level on I can fly it - without it I can't unless I really, really focus!

Can you fly it aggressively and do flips and stuff with self level on - or does it all need to be off in order to do flips?

Cheers.

Andy

[simon]

Hi,
Yes im flying with self level off...you cant do flips etc with self level on......I have only been flying since xmas.....practice with self level on..then switch it off..its a bit hard at first but you'll be surprised how easy it gets......you might need to turn your stick scaling down,,this makes it less sensitive....

[neallewis]

Hi,
Yes im flying with self level off...you cant do flips etc with self level on......I have only been flying since xmas.....practice with self level on..then switch it off..its a bit hard at first but you'll be surprised how easy it gets......you might need to turn your stick scaling down,,this makes it less sensitive....

I get into a mess pretty quickly flying my DJI Naza in manual mode.
is stick scaling like adding an exponential curve to the stick? or setting a dual rate?

[Col]

I get into a mess pretty quickly flying my DJI Naza in manual mode.
is stick scaling like adding an exponential curve to the stick? or setting a dual rate?

All settings on my 9x are stock, with stick scaling at 40 on the kk2 (I believe this means 40% of maximum transmitted signal is transferred into movement)

From t'other thread. I haven't been any higher than my 40 (although throttle is at 90 - I think stock is 75) but I'm led to believe that flips are possible from about 80 upwards in acro mode.
There is a 1000+ page thread (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1675613) on the kk2 over on rcgroups.com, and yes, I have read it all... took a very, very, very long time!

[neallewis]

Flights from 2013-06-25. Was messing with basic and attitude gains tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gRqFJ-JlxI
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10:10 duck!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Om8lBcDYs
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Some nice low passes in this, from 03:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W295jMvNXgo
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Crash in the last video, watch from 03:58.

[andys]

Video of my flying in the park. I tried to film the Quad from my camera on a tripod - but it kept going out of shot! I dropped in the on-board footage from the keychain on the Quad too :)

link to vimeo movie - https://vimeo.com/69997608

[Col]

vid not working

[neallewis]

Works perfectly for me. Andy that's ace! Mental fast and manoeuvrable, And i know you are only touching the throttle. Not how the naza flys on GPS or ATTI modes. In manual its mental, but doesn't autolevel, so your skills need to be up there to keep it in the air. Also, with my DJI motors, you need to be running 4S to get the sort of speeds you are seeing on yours.

[Col]

working for me too now.

Nice flying area.
Looks very well set up. Just out of intertest... what sort of P and I gains are you running with that wierdo speedo of yours?

[andys]

Col.

KK setup is as follows:

P Gain 60 (I could go higher but it's responsive at this with no oscillations)
P Limit 100
I Gain 5
I Limit 20

on the rudders it's

P Gain 60
P limit 20
I Gain 20
I Limit 10

Self Level is set at:

P Gain 40 (this is I believe how much the board wants to level the quad - higher values make it right itself quicker - but I set it lower as I want to dial out some of the self level. At 40, the Quad levels very progressively)

P Limit 70 (this I believe is how much Input you have against the self level wanting to work, low values make the Quad very stable, but less agile. I've found 70 allows me to get is sidewards is I want to :))

Height Dampening I have set at 5.
This is a bit hight, but it means after a fast low sweep across the ground, when I yaw and rudder to turn / fly a big arc, the Quad want to go up rather then turn into the floor, I have to sometimes fight against this, but I figure it's safer having the Quad want to climb when Yawing, rather than falling as it would with it set at 0

[cheekyscouse]

here's video of my spidex with brushless gimbal

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and video footage from my TBS Discovery

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[Col]

Nice set-up(s) Mark!

[cheekyscouse]

Nice set-up(s) Mark!

thanks mate :)

[neallewis]

Maiden flights of my TBS Discovery with GoPro Hero 2 from tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAi9MZCG07I
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFRI3HGDA8M
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlWZo24-ksM
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Second or third videos are probably a bit better. not a lot going on where I've been flying, but plenty of space with nothing to hit.

[neallewis]

Flying with AndyS tonight at Temple Newsam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxRf21ZYzCM
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[andys]

Looks good Neal - not really any jello - good stuff.
My video is frankly unwatchable ! Mounting the keychain in the down wash from the props is obviously a bad idea !

Simon K esc's on this morning - initial thought (in my small garden) not a massive difference. Running slightly higher PI settings with no wobble - it does feel nice and responsive :)

Think I may have fixed the 330 - I hard reset the Kk2 / re input all the settings and recalibrated it - seems better:)

[neallewis]

Looks good Neal - not really any jello - good stuff.
My video is frankly unwatchable ! Mounting the keychain in the down wash from the props is obviously a bad idea !

Simon K esc's on this morning - initial thought (in my small garden) not a massive difference. Running slightly higher PI settings with no wobble - it does feel nice and responsive :)

Think I may have fixed the 330 - I hard reset the Kk2 / re input all the settings and recalibrated it - seems better:)

Cheers Andy, yes happy with the output given so many people seem to have bad jello first go. Had a bit more today, if i'm honest. I tried more silicone foam to move the camera foward a touch, to reduce the prop tips out of shot, which worked, but i got more jello I think. Vids going up now, see what you think. I also think its related to the elastic bands holding the camera on the foam into the frame.

Good job with the 330/KK2. I'm going to build one after flying yours. It's just a fun little thing, totally different to flying mine.

[neallewis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkhg-o7MdJE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYvcvkV8AH8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKbHEx3PWg
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[andys]

Hi Neal

Still looks good - a bit of vibration I'd say rather than 'jello'.

I mounted the GoPro under the 450 and the results were good, but not rock steady - still that tiny vibration on hover -.like on your vids. I think I need to balance my props by sanding them - I assume you can sand the plastic ones?


Are your vids with perfectly balanced props?
I bet they would be better with sunnysky motors too - cant get over how smooth and well balanced they feel on the bench.

I've also read about vibration damping between the arm and motors - although I've not found an off the shelf product / solution you can buy.

Looking at GoPros - cant decide - too many to choose from - might pick an older one up on eBay. Although the v3 is lighter and smaller - which would be good :)

[neallewis]

Two props I balanced by sanding, the other two have tape. I need to sort this out, and try my motors for balance too with a vibrometer. yes you can sand plastic props. 1000grit wet and dry.

Costco have the Hero 2, same as mine for £160+vat. I'd have a black if I was getting a new one, but I'd probably buy in America and have someone bring it over when they came.

[neallewis]

This evening at RHR after some work on the Invernational track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBOUjjD04CY
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Odd glitch at 3:22. Was flying flat out in ATTI mode, felt like it stuck flat out, but then levelled and stopped and I gained full control again?

[Neil Skull]

Not Pro camera set up! but good fun Quad all the same.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=410563175726928&set=vb.338137226302857&type=2&theater

they can be fitted with an optional camera.

Also some footage from UID Camera quad to follow!

[Col]

Here is the first ever video from mine.
808#16 is "snugly" fitted inbetween the top plate and the middle plate. Nothing holding it in, no velcro, no sticky pads. It isn't tight, but don't think it will fall out either.

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They were all filmed continuously, I've just removed the bits with my nearly naked kids playing in the back garden.
I've also made sure that youtube hasn't changed them at all, so what you see is what was filmed.

Also on vimeo... maybe. Struggling with it a bit! not sure how to embed them, but it's the same video as above anyway.

http://vimeo.com/70415340

https://vimeo.com/70415341

[Col]

Vids from RHR 24/7/2013

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[ravens]

Just found that theres multirotor section on oOple :lol:

Heres mine with rc offroad cars and some water.

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[rcflyers]

Here's a video of my aerobatic tricopter that I built

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[RickRick]

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First try, also first flight was the day before for 30 seconds, still some work to do setting up the quad, and probably a better camera mount

[neallewis]

Flight vids from today.

First was a bit of a fly about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_oBL_qlx8
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Second with some crash action!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwRHUFQJK4s
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First crash it just dropped out the sky at low speed/height. I felt one motor died as I did a low speed yaw. Prop stuck in ground, but it was all fine.

Second crash was my own fault. Lost both ends of a prop, and now that motor feels very tight, so probably a write-off? I thought that was the motor that failed in the first crash, and its had a hit on that one previously in my famous invert at a York school.

[andys]

Nothing to hit in the field except the goalposts - and you hit one ;)

Looks like your flying & speed is getting better though :)

[neallewis]

Nothing to hit in the field except the goalposts - and you hit one ;)

Looks like your flying & speed is getting better though :)

Yup, just clipped it with the prop tips. I thought i'd miss it.

Cheers, feels better and flying a lot more controlled now, I've stopped messing with the gains and returned to my original values ;-)

[northernmonkey]

Uploaded a few more vids on youtube. clicky. (http://www.youtube.com/user/PSSLocksmiths/videos)

[andys]

Yup, just clipped it with the prop tips. I thought i'd miss it.

Cheers, feels better and flying a lot more controlled now, I've stopped messing with the gains and returned to my original values ;-)


Good stuff - I can't really mock you though - I put my 450 in the ground the other day. Flying it with 1.6++ is really hard. It's full acro unless the stick it centred - so I simply pushed a little too much in a turn and it went full beans into the ground, it's scary the angles it will try to fly at in acro mode !

Still not made the commitment to the Naza Lit for the 550 yet - but can't really see any other option. Is the latest firmware going to run on the Lite as well as the Naza V2?

[neallewis]

Good stuff - I can't really mock you though - I put my 450 in the ground the other day. Flying it with 1.6++ is really hard. It's full acro unless the stick it centred - so I simply pushed a little too much in a turn and it went full beans into the ground, it's scary the angles it will try to fly at in acro mode !

Still not made the commitment to the Naza Lit for the 550 yet - but can't really see any other option. Is the latest firmware going to run on the Lite as well as the Naza V2?

Naza Lite looks to have its own software release: http://www.dji.com/download/naza-m-lite-downloads/

kk2 acro mode sounds like naza full manual? does it have self-levelling?

[Col]

Nope - KK2 with self level off (ie acro) is the same as naza in full manual.

That's the beauty of the newish (non-official) 1.6++ firmware - it mixes self level with acro. Self level is only on when the right stick is centred, and it's in full acro everywhere else. It's properly scary! I have had mine at close to 90* from horizontal with stick scaling at 40...

[Col]

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1899326

[andys]

KK2 1.6++ = Broken 450 :(

Before putting 1.6++ on my Quads, I only broke 1 arm when I flew into a tree. Never hit the ground badly. Now i've broken 4 arms in total and lots of props.

Notice I am not flying with the Carbon Props as I know I cannot trust myself...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15062770/450dead.jpg

[Col]

KK2 1.6++ = Broken 450 :(

Before putting 1.6++ on my Quads, I only broke 1 arm when I flew into a tree. Never hit the ground badly. Now i've broken 4 arms in total and lots of props.

Notice I am not flying with the Carbon Props as I know I cannot trust myself...

It is a totally new experience, isn't it!?!
We are essentially going from superb self level to full acro with a stupid amount of power, so I expected some extra breakages - I've not got my carbon props on either!
I've decided my problem is lack of confidence. With highish stick scaling the quad will easily do 2 flips per second, so I'm being overly cautious and coming off the right stick early, and "self level" is sending it fully inverted into the ground.
Don't forget that the kk2 can't tell the difference between up and down!

[andys]

Don't forget that the kk2 can't tell the difference between up and down!

Col - that explains a lot - and no, I didn't know the KK2 does not know when it is inverted!

When I crashed my 330, I was up high, went for the flip, as it went inverted I put the right stick back centrally ( thinking it would level) and gave it some power, thinking it would right itself and pull itself out of it's inverted state.

it did not - it just flew, very quickly straight into the floor!

Does yours flip on the spot - or is it more of an arc / fall / pull out affair?
Also, do you power it through the flip, or is it just full stick left or right - i'm still not sure what I should be doing with the sticks.
Knowing it does not level (orientation) is going to prove to be important though ! Cheers :)

[Col]

Hmmm, this sounds familiar!
I didn't realize it either. Not sure anybody knew as flips with self level on are generally not done. It's only the recent release of 1.6++ that has brought this to light.
I'm no flip expert... but this is my take on what you're supposed to do for a stationary flip (ie not traveling in any particular direction):
power up so that you're moving vertically upwards.
reduce throttle (DO NOT CUT) and apply aileron
keep aileron applied until quad is past inverted!!
apply lots of throttle to recover!

Please be aware that the above is only my interpretation of various posts on RCG and from watching a few video's. My quad is (again) in the same state as your 450.

[northernmonkey]

Another video, getting more confident with fpv but couldn't fly too low as I was loosing video signal.


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[andys]

FPV looking good :)

Which goggles did you for in the end?

[neallewis]

Nice one Mike, looks great. You at RHR on Sunday?
Is this on your big F550?

Andy, looks like he's using a monitor in the back of the van, not goggles.

[northernmonkey]

Cheers guys.

Neal is correct 22" monitor in van, also have a 7" monitor for my groundstation and now have some Fatsharks (base sd).:thumbsup:

I'm using my TBS discovery for fpv with naza lite, still have the hexa (naza v2) and have a f450 with kk2. I may stick some fpv gear on the kk2 quad aswell. Got it on the other two so why not!

Just in the process of finalizing my groundstaion with pan and tilt antenna tracking. Will get a vid up once its complete.

[neallewis]

Cheers guys.

Neal is correct 22" monitor in van, also have a 7" monitor for my groundstation and now have some Fatsharks (base sd).:thumbsup:

I'm using my TBS discovery for fpv with naza lite, still have the hexa (naza v2) and have a f450 with kk2. I may stick some fpv gear on the kk2 quad aswell. Got it on the other two so why not!

Just in the process of finalizing my groundstaion with pan and tilt antenna tracking. Will get a vid up once its complete.

Sounds great, can;t wait to see it. Did you go for the TBS core and their 69 fpv camera? what video tx/rx? are you still on 2.4 for control?

When funds allow I want to go immersionrc UHF for control, and move video on to 2.4.

[northernmonkey]

Tbs core- yes
Cam from securitycam 2000, can't remember but it was £35 del.
Vx stuff is immersionrc 600mw 5.8ghz tx with UNO rx.

Still on 2.4 for control, just ordered a 2.4 booster for £25. Will see how that goes. Immersionrc are supposedly releasing a UHF that fits straight into module slot on your transmitter.

I'd rather stick to 5.8ghz for video as lower you go the quality degrades, hence the pan and tilt tracking ground station.

[neallewis]

Tbs core- yes
Cam from securitycam 2000, can't remember but it was £35 del.
Vx stuff is immersionrc 600mw 5.8ghz tx with UNO rx.

Still on 2.4 for control, just ordered a 2.4 booster for £25. Will see how that goes. Immersionrc are supposedly releasing a UHF that fits straight into module slot on your transmitter.

I'd rather stick to 5.8ghz for video as lower you go the quality degrades, hence the pan and tilt tracking ground station.

But 5.8 has less penetration and range.

I spoke with a TBS bloke I met in the Netherlands, and he advised to go UHF for control and 2.4 for video. He was flying his wing 3-4kms away, it was out of site and in the clouds. The 2.4 video was perfect quality, no breakup at all. his spotter was tracking the wing with a high gain directional antenna pointed in the rough direction when out of sight.

Interested in the JR module slot immersionrc unit. The current one is huge and you have to gaffer tape it to the back.

[Col]

blah blah blag... over my head... blah blah blah...

Sure I read somewhere that you are only legal when you can see it?

[neallewis]

Sure I read somewhere that you are only legal when you can see it?

Yes, CAA rules here in the UK say someone must maintain visual contact with the flying model, hence requirements for a spotter when fpving

[neallewis]

Latest video from flying at Batley track last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_qyzXb9HE

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Quite a few shots of Andy's quad in flight, and comedy flyby of Paul's plane at 06:20. With the entire 25 second flight captured from 06:00 :thumbsup:

[simon]

Don't try flips with self level on!.....turn it off and get used to flying without it....its suprising how quickly you forget about self levelling!...also the DJI Frames/copies are good,but you only have to skim the ground and they break!....get a carbon fibre frame or an Armattan CNC alloy frame....less damage,more flying!!:thumbsup:

[AdamBurgess]

Used my quad for some filming at a car show that KetteringMCC attended last weekend. Got tons of video to go through and put together some sort of edit but have pulled a few stills from the footage so far. This is my favorite pic...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/funkmonkey66/JAESaturdayEvening1_zps1ca3cebd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/funkmonkey66/media/JAESaturdayEvening1_zps1ca3cebd.jpg.html)

And this one's quite cool with the shadow chasing the buggy :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/funkmonkey66/JAE20_zps1f2433a0.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/funkmonkey66/media/JAE20_zps1f2433a0.jpg.html)

[northernmonkey]

4th attempt at FPV, goggles on this time!
Slowly getting to grips with it, not long now before low level fast flying.

http://youtu.be/qrKuRXDAN0M

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[andys]

That fpv vid was fantastic :)
Watch out for that tree though - and the people!

I really need to get into fpv as I want to film stuff that's not possible using line of sight.

What is it like with the goggles - is the image good - and what's the tripod thing you have set up?

Lastly :) - which Fatshark goggles / kit is the one to get - there are too many flavours to choose from!

[neallewis]

Mike was the video sped up a bit?
Cool location. I'd be tempted to look in an upper window of the tower ;-)

[northernmonkey]

Goggles are attitude sd £180 from hobbyking.
Tripod is my ground station with rx and antenna tracker, also holds a 7" monitor for anybody to watch live fpv footage on.

Video was shot with gopro hero 3 at 1080p 30 fps, not sped up or stabilised, just edited a few bits out.
Compared to some of the other fpv vids on YouTube it's pretty amateur but will get there eventually.:thumbsup:

[andys]

Goggles are attitude sd £180 from hobbyking.
Tripod is my ground station with rx and antenna tracker, also holds a 7" monitor for anybody to watch live fpv footage on.

Video was shot with gopro hero 3 at 1080p 30 fps, not sped up or stabilised, just edited a few bits out.
Compared to some of the other fpv vids on YouTube it's pretty amateur but will get there eventually.:thumbsup:


Cheers Mike. I'd say the vid was far from Amateur - I enjoyed it, whereas most fpv vids are pretty boring - good location too. I'd be scared of hitting somone though skimming along the paths!

Would you buy the Attitude goggles again? Is the picture anything like the gopro footage? Can you make out small details - i'm super intrigued as to what it's like :)

[northernmonkey]

Fpv footage is half the res of gopro but I can fly fine with it.
When you first take to the skies it's quite daunting but you get used to it and start to enjoy your flying.

I purchased the attitude sd because fatshark have some new higher res goggles due out next march, these will have on board rx and recorder etc... So the ones I have now will tie me over until the others are available.

If you want to have a meet up somewhere:wub just give me a shout:thumbsup:
Happy to show my kit and talk you through it all.:thumbsup:

[andys]

Sounds like a plan - do you ever fly over leeds way?

Also - last question (honest) - can you hear the Quad when flying fpv through the goggles?

[Col]

You don't need to fly fast to make great FPV vids!

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[northernmonkey]

Sounds like a plan - do you ever fly over leeds way?

Also - last question (honest) - can you hear the Quad when flying fpv through the goggles?

You can hook up a microphone and send via on board vtx to ground rx, so yes if you so desire!:) I don't bother though.

In Leeds most week on warrant runs (locksmithing) depends what time of day your talking about?

[northernmonkey]

You don't need to fly fast to make great FPV vids!

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He was flying LOS, but I know what you mean, it's all about the scenery.

[neallewis]

In Leeds most week on warrant runs (locksmithing) depends what time of day your talking about?

If you two are arranging a meetup in Leeds, please let me know, would love to join you both. Thanks.

[andys]

Meet up would be good - I work from home Mon & Tues, so through the day would be great for me on either day - need some Naza tips:)

[Col]

He was flying LOS, but I know what you mean, it's all about the scenery.

Quite right... posted the wrong vid!
Same bloke, same Hquad

https://vimeo.com/75310097

[jimbo_468]

Hi All,

Still learning with mine, and made a video today with help from GoPro Studio!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nUmlSrmRuM

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[neallewis]

Hi All,

Still learning with mine, and made a video today with help from GoPro Studio!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nUmlSrmRuM

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Nice one Jimbo. great edit to the tune.
I've not had the patience yet to edit an actual video and put it to music. Plus GoPro studio wants me to install quicktime, and I refuse.

[neallewis]

My latest flight videos with my new SunnySky V2216-11 900Kv motors. Nice and smooth, paired with balanced 10x5 graupners, and hand drilled 8mm-5mm reducers to make the props fit. video is relatively jello free.
Gains need tweeking on the naza for these motors and the TBS discovery. It's really sensitive to yaw control reduce yaw gain or add expo?
Better performance over the stock DJI motors, although didn't do any flat out flying this time.
It was super windy, and also my first flight with Naza v4.00 firmware. GPS lock didn't seem to good, but maybe that was the wind? anyone else tried v4.00 yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKMCAF7-0Xo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiwbxN3kKFA
iiwbxN3kKFA

[Col]

be wary with the distance limiting feature on v4. There are loads of reports of the naza refusing to accept right stick commands after reaching set distance.
Without using limits it still seems fine

[jimbo_468]

Hi,

GoPro Studio really nice to use and simple. Maybe worth the downloads?

Anyway, I'm after ugrading/buying a few things and need help! (because I haven't got a clue!)

Gimbals - because I only have a Naza Lite, I need a gimbal with its own board - is the Tarot good, and where to buy?

Radio - currently running a DX6i and want to change. Read that the Futaba's are good - any other recommendations?

FPV - would like to get into this, but not a clue. Any help???

Jim.

Any info much appreciated.

PS. and I thought RC cars were addictive....

[jimbo_468]

My latest flight videos with my new SunnySky V2216-11 900Kv motors. Nice and smooth, paired with balanced 10x5 graupners, and hand drilled 8mm-5mm reducers to make the props fit. video is relatively jello free.
Gains need tweeking on the naza for these motors and the TBS discovery. It's really sensitive to yaw control reduce yaw gain or add expo?
Better performance over the stock DJI motors, although didn't do any flat out flying this time.
It was super windy, and also my first flight with Naza v4.00 firmware. GPS lock didn't seem to good, but maybe that was the wind? anyone else tried v4.00 yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKMCAF7-0Xo
QKMCAF7-0Xo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiwbxN3kKFA
iiwbxN3kKFA


I read somewhere that V4.0 had been pulled as it had too many errors and was a cause of concern!

I'm sure that was on MultiRotors forum or DJIGuys forum.

Jim.

[neallewis]

be wary with the distance limiting feature on v4. There are loads of reports of the naza refusing to accept right stick commands after reaching set distance.
Without using limits it still seems fine

Yeah, had seen them, and a few YouTube videos of quads stuck at the limit. If you fly forward to the limit, it gets stuck, But sideways was fine. Not tested it, and left the defaults at 2000m, which I have no intention of hitting.
I may downgrade until they get a fixed release out.

[neallewis]

Hi,

GoPro Studio really nice to use and simple. Maybe worth the downloads?

Anyway, I'm after ugrading/buying a few things and need help! (because I haven't got a clue!)

Gimbals - because I only have a Naza Lite, I need a gimbal with its own board - is the Tarot good, and where to buy?

Radio - currently running a DX6i and want to change. Read that the Futaba's are good - any other recommendations?

FPV - would like to get into this, but not a clue. Any help???

Jim.

Any info much appreciated.

PS. and I thought RC cars were addictive....


Cheers Jim, I've got the latest gopro studio installed, but it's insisting I need to install quicktime, so I've not really bothered with it. As an "Apple software on PCs" hater, I simply won't do this. I'd rather have a dodgy virus infection.

AndyS can give you more specific info on the tarot gimbal. his looks excellent.

If buying a radio now, without question I'd go for the FrSky Taranis radio:
http://www.frsky-rc.co.uk/frsky-news-frsky-taranis-transmitter-2.4g-receivers-telemetry-modules
http://www.t9hobbysport.com/frsky-taranis-2.4ghz-transmitter
Loads of reviews and info on google/youtube.

FPV... yeah tough one. How much do you want to spend? I've kinda worked out what I want, and not wanting to buy then re-buy, I'm holding off until I have a spare £1000 for it.

[jimbo_468]

I use a Mac so straight forward for me.

I know what you mean with the FPV, and the Fatshark Predator V2 kit looks good, but at £300 its a hard choice - a very expensive addition to an already expensive hobby (and the wife would kill me!)

Do need a new radio though, so thanks for the recommendation and will look at that one.

Hopefully Andy can comment on the Tarot if he sees this post.

Cheers, Jim.

[raymondkerr]

My first couple of videos as I learn to fly an F450.

http://youtu.be/qykbA3mENzE

and one onboard (no gimbal as yet)

http://youtu.be/ZHMFHuRvz5I

[northernmonkey]

Another fpv vid for you perusal!

http://youtu.be/WVmfZA4xXD8

[northernmonkey]

Bit windy but still.... http://youtu.be/o4i6jtIHYIY

[northernmonkey]

1.3 mile out! Not bad for 5.8ghz vid and 2.4ghz radio.
http://flytrex.com/mission/quadcopter-tbs-discovery-mike-kitchen-1813/

[neallewis]

Nice one Mike, impressive distance. I watched the video last night.
I must get out to fly, not used mine in three weeks, new baby and rubbish weather. I'm off to charge some batteries.

What gains are you using in your naza with that motor/prop combo. Do you change them between 3S and 4S runs?

[northernmonkey]

THESE (http://www.team-blacksheep.com/img/gallery/calibration_values_900.PNG)gains for me.

Only use 4s with disco :thumbsup:

[neallewis]

THESE (http://www.team-blacksheep.com/img/gallery/calibration_values_900.PNG)gains for me.

Only use 4s with disco :thumbsup:

Have you got simonk escs?

Just been out flying. 69km/h was fastest recorded speed, 3S, v2216's, dji 30A optos, 10x5 graupners. Flight time is now about 7-8mins. V4.00/v2.18 software.
Was a bit windy, and it did a few odd glitches occasionally? No crashes or control lost, but the odd self level when flying full throttle forward?

Hopefully I can get my flight data downloaded from my old GPS logger. Was having trouble last time.

[northernmonkey]

Yes, got the proflightuk simon k flashed esc on at minute.
Managed 65mph yesterday, little bit of wind. Did the 1.3 mile flight just after.

Think its time for you to run 4s with 9x5 graupners and get ya self some fpv kit!

[neallewis]

A flight track log from the other day:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=214522933462797236422.0004e932ccb2026935ab f&msa=0

Have been messing with uploading these to google maps, but hitting a hard limit of 100 recorded GPS points. An 8 min flight contains much more than 100.

Do you know of any other mapping site that allows track logs to be uploaded? or an rc flight log site?

[Colinevan]

A flight track log from the other day:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=214522933462797236422.0004e932ccb2026935ab f&msa=0

Have been messing with uploading these to google maps, but hitting a hard limit of 100 recorded GPS points. An 8 min flight contains much more than 100.

Do you know of any other mapping site that allows track logs to be uploaded? or an rc flight log site?

That drawing looks like what my youngest drew all over my naza manual lol .

[neallewis]

That drawing looks like what my youngest drew all over my naza manual lol .

Maybe the challenge should be to draw comedy shapes on the landscape?

[northernmonkey]

http://youtu.be/C0GEuilrsMo

I nearly snuffed it!!

[Colinevan]

http://youtu.be/C0GEuilrsMo

I nearly snuffed it!!

Good try. On the return I thought you was going to have another go lol.

[northernmonkey]

From yesterday-

http://youtu.be/xwRsKp7J54g

[neallewis]

From yesterday-

http://youtu.be/xwRsKp7J54g

Very nice Mike. You can tell its not a gopro with the light response into the sun.
I see you have moved to 2.4 for video and uhf for control. hows that working out?

what did you do to your gopro?

[andys]

Awesome :)

[telboy]

If they're 1.3mile away, how the hell do you see what they're doing at that distance? or even see which way they're pointing?:eh?:

[Col]

FPV Tel

First Person View - a camera and transmitter on the quad, paired with a receiver and monitor on the ground.

[northernmonkey]

First close proximity fpv vid for me!
Qav400 was not set up, gains were all wrong, I had to get out and fly with no notice with a nice break in the shitty weather we have been having!

http://youtu.be/xwRsKp7J54g

[telboy]

FPV Tel

First Person View - a camera and transmitter on the quad, paired with a receiver and monitor on the ground.

Blimey, i bet they cost a fortune dont they?

What run times can you get out of stuff?

[Col]

Blimey, i bet they cost a fortune dont they?

What run times can you get out of stuff?

It can do, but doesn't need to. I don't use any fpv stuff - northernmonkey and James both have it so are in a better position to answer.

[northernmonkey]

You can be in the air for £200 (non fpv) with a quadcopter and transmuter etc...
Fpv set up would be anything from £100 upto £1000! depends what you want to achieve, its a huge can oh worms!!

Flight time on a common setup would be around 10 mins. anything upto 30mins is achievable.

[raymondkerr]

todays flying, although very windy, managed to get some good practise in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZx56Mb61I