CML Raceway! its cool! [Archive]

jimmy

29-10-2006, 09:55 PM

Just got back from the first race at the new CML Raceway, I have to say the track was excellent as well as the hospitality. Great stuff.
got a few photos and a report to finish off.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/cml001.jpg

tc2k

29-10-2006, 10:10 PM

:( :( :(:(:(:(:(:(

I hate you!

jimmy

29-10-2006, 10:12 PM

Couple more

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/cml004.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/cml018.jpg

tc2k

29-10-2006, 10:15 PM

That looks like an awesome track! Where is it exactly.
Whats the track made of aswell?

mini-ripper

29-10-2006, 10:18 PM

It is near Newbury. The track is both astro turf and tarmac. It has a very funny type of grip when damp. Very very good though

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 10:01 AM

Well done for making it down all that travelled, hope you all found it ok!

It was an excellent days racing, and everyone seemed to really enjoy it.

Look forward to seeing the pics Jimmy, i'm hoping you managed to snap a few of my old B3 ;)

Nice to meet you by the way!

Thanks again!

Chris Doughty

30-10-2006, 10:06 AM

I agree, super ace track, event, racing, the lot!

come on Jimmy!!! pics pics pics! :P

jimmy

30-10-2006, 10:13 AM

Bah, go on then, I was gonna finish up the report before posting the pics, but ere ya go..

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/ (http://www.oople.com/forums/../rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/)

photos of chris doughtys S4

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/atomic-s4/ (http://www.oople.com/forums/../rc/photos/atomic-s4/)

Chris Doughty

30-10-2006, 10:30 AM

absolutely amazing Jimmy! and you got some superb snaps of my B4!

check out the hang-time!
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/imagepages/cml033.html

jim76

30-10-2006, 10:51 AM

Really good track, and fairly close to me (about 1 hour)
Really good hospitality from Lee and his family.

And Jimmy got a photo of my car this time!!

perfect day!!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 10:51 AM

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/bigimages/cml010.jpg

this is the first time i seen craggys car broken , makes me feel sick lol

jim76

30-10-2006, 10:55 AM

actually, it gives me a certain smugness that i didn't break all day, yet the world champ did!! :D :D

Lee Martin

30-10-2006, 10:56 AM

yeh jimmy!¬ top job as always!!!!

love the night pictures!

modelimages

30-10-2006, 10:57 AM

don't put your car down in the middle of the straight during practice, or if you do make sure it is in front of the world champion, guaranteed a picture then:smile:

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 11:00 AM

lol !!!!

jimmy

30-10-2006, 11:18 AM

Thanks for the hospitality pidge. Your parents are blumming understanding !! :) and john, thanks for doing a great job of running things, went really smoothly.

bbq

30-10-2006, 12:11 PM

Chris that paint job looked soo much beter on the Losi :D
Pleas switch back :D

ashleyb4

30-10-2006, 12:44 PM

Very cool Pics Jimmy

Very cool track lee

Very cool S4 Chris

A

ashleyb4

30-10-2006, 12:47 PM

Same here who is it he crashed into. Imagine what would be going though his head "is he going to hit me" "Maybe he wont mind" " Oh god" HELP!!!!!!!!!!

A

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/bigimages/cml010.jpg (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/bigimages/cml010.jpg)

this is the first time i seen craggys car broken , makes me feel sick lol

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 12:50 PM

I think it was a beginner, they just put their car down there to start practise - not the best idea as the outside of the straight is the best line for the corner at the end of it....

Southwell

30-10-2006, 12:57 PM

I think it's happened to most of us at some stage. I bet he won't do that again though!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 01:07 PM

what was the surface of the track like on tyres ?

did it eat them ?

Chris Doughty

30-10-2006, 01:28 PM

I ran 1 set of rear tires all day, I did try something else in 1 round but I put the Bow-Ties back on for the final.

with it being wet, it didn't really do anything to the tires at all.

2WD anyway

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 01:30 PM

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 01:34 PM

ahhh ok, jst with it being partly tarmac and stuff i bet when its dry it will be a litle harsh on tyres, but apart from that , the track looks really smooth and flowing, rather like the american tracks of clay

There's only two sections of Tarmac, neither of which you need to accelerate hard on..... one at the end of the straight which is banked, you just enter it with a bit of speed and don't need to accelerate off it as there's a drop off section that requires you to be going fairly slowly to accurately land on the down ramp. The second section is over at the back left after a double jump, then you head back towards the rostrum and have to slow down for the adverse camber corner so again you don't want/need to accelerate that hard either.

I used 2 sets of Already worn Pro-line M3 step-pins and by the final they weren't worn that much more then when i started.

Just to avoid any confusion, the section below where Craggy's car is broken is Black Astro, and just at the top of the pic is the Tarmac section - you can see another car on there.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/bigimages/cml010.jpg

Chris Doughty

30-10-2006, 01:52 PM

and in the dry when there is more tire wear on the tarmac, there is loads of grip on the astro so you can still get 6 or 7 runs out of Proline tires (Bow-Ties in perticular)

jim76

30-10-2006, 02:07 PM

i ran BB green spike in 4wd, 1 practice and 5 rounds, and they were bald at the back and not much better on the front. Put a new set on for the final.

Ellis seemed to try various sets of tyres. I only tried sch greens and they were far worse than the BBs.

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 03:30 PM

ahhhh sweet. what sort of ride hight was every one running, level bones all round or was there some with a littlle more hight to handle the big jump ?

jimmy

30-10-2006, 03:34 PM

I was just level bones. to be honest the jumps werent savage on the car (unless you got them horribly wrong) since there were down-slopes to them all.
you got some decent air in places but you had somewhere to land - rather than landing flat-bottom.

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 03:35 PM

I personally ran the car as i would have done on any track, most of the jumps reward you with a down slope if you get it right so i didn't need to change the shocks at all - just ran a trusty old set-up (no extra Pack or anything) so i think most B4's etc would have probably been set-up as normal??

It's such a rewarding lap if you get it right though, i've not driven another track quite like it!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 03:37 PM

:D sweet, how did you go jim ?, any good ?

P.S ill be in touch some time this week about some name decals for my losi, as the shell and car are still coverd in " david mudford " AKA bathy right ? lol

jimmy

30-10-2006, 03:41 PM

ugh, get those off quickly :p
I didnt go too badly to be honest, I was happier in my final and went from 8th to 2nd, finished 3rd in the end. I was driving the X-6 smoothly (at last) and it was rewarding me.
I think I really needed some different tyres but I was too busy taking photos to really think about that.:)

Lee Martin

30-10-2006, 03:47 PM

and good ones to!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:00 PM

Chris Doughty

30-10-2006, 04:03 PM

hehe as soon as i get home from workt ehre off lol, howd u find the x6 compared to the b4 then ? any better or is it jst a gimmick ?

im not saying its jst a fad , the x6 looks the bollocks but does it work :D

id like one lol

B4's were 1-2-3-4 in the A final, can you argue with that?

I was one of them and I have never ever raced a B4 until then!

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 04:05 PM

I think the real test will be when Ellis starts running his? Surely if he doesn't carry on making National A's the writing's on the wall?

To be fair there was only one X-6 that i saw, and that was Jimmy's review car?

Lee

30-10-2006, 04:07 PM

Chris, i imagine you ran the xxx cr, after your first meeting with the B4 how would you compare it to your first meeting with the losi, i know your not going to say the other was crap but what is your honest opinion as there is nobody better qualified to answer this question.:cool:

jimmy

30-10-2006, 04:08 PM

Yeah, but youre ace.
Not sure yet mate, it was a hard track to get used to in the wet with a car I had no idea about setting up.
I have run it before and thought it was good, I think it takes some getting used to though as it needs a bit of a different driving style than Im used to (ragging it)
Gonna take it for some more tracktime though yet.
When I had little steering early on (running wide ribs) I had to try and pivot the car around corners using the brakes - it didnt like that. When I had proper tyres on it was more a case of just driving around the track and I could turn inside people most of the time.

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:17 PM

cool stuff guys. by the way jimmy i love the pictures of the track they look awsome :)

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:19 PM

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 04:21 PM

by the way chris. which car do you prefare over the 2 you have driven which is probibly on the minds of a lot of drivers.

Losi ?

AE ?

;)

i know its only early days yet with the b4 but does the future look promising ?

Dude - do you really think he could answer that question with any other then ONE answer, no matter what he felt????

Think you need to give him a break lol - he's done ONE race meeting on a completely new track with it lol :D

Bathy

30-10-2006, 04:21 PM

Have to say that my BX was totally awesome at CML Raceway (Lee’s track); I’m far from the best driver but the car was performing perfectly all day, I’d happily share my set up with anyone if they thought it would help in the future.

It was so fast even Jimmy couldn’t get a photo of it! ;)

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:23 PM

Dude - do you really think he could answer that question with any other then ONE answer, no matter what he felt????

Think you need to give him a break lol - he's done ONE race meeting on a completely new track with it lol :D

ok chris i mean nick :p

hehe i see what you mean mate :)

jim76

30-10-2006, 04:27 PM

[quote=Nick Goodall;14345]I think the real test will be when Ellis starts running his? Surely if he doesn't carry on making National A's the writing's on the wall?
quote]

very true. but the way his X5 was going he will take some beating in 4wd!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:35 PM

bathy the xxx4 i got from you is going awsome, its one of the best cars i have ever owned. seems to drive really well.

so far ive K.O`d a chasis , and 5 diff covers but apart from that its going strong lol :D

hows the bx of mine doing mate ;)

jimmy

30-10-2006, 04:38 PM

Ellis looked very quick with the x5 I have to say..

ashleyb4

30-10-2006, 04:40 PM

The futures bright the future is AE :p :p :p

A:D

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 04:41 PM

It'll be interesting to see if he's quicker than Tricky and his XX-4... with today's motors/batteries i don't see how the XX-4 has a disadvantage with 3 belts like it used to (when dumping & outright punch was a problem).....

He did look very quick, and very at home with it so i'm sure he'll be right up there as usual!

Bathy

30-10-2006, 04:43 PM

hows the bx of mine doing mate ;)

It's bling-ed up and is on the subs bench ready to take over when I smash my other one up, oh Ian might be testing it at Tivy next Sunday as well.

Ellis's X5 was flying, in a league of his own, had he raced there before or does he just learn tracks really really fast (being a 'pro' and all)?

jimmy

30-10-2006, 04:44 PM

the x5 has a different weight setup and everyhing is much closer to the centre than on the XX4.

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 04:47 PM

It's bling-ed up and is on the subs bench ready to take over when I smash my other one up, oh Ian might be testing it at Tivy next Sunday as well.

Ellis's X5 was flying, in a league of his own, had he raced there before or does he just learn tracks really really fast (being a 'pro' and all)?

He did look good, and hadn't run there before but then neither had Craggy to be fair :)

I think it'll be a good year for Off Road in 2007, it's good to see some drivers running cars i never thought they would!

jimmy

30-10-2006, 04:49 PM

Chris looked odd in his proline jumpsuit. I wasn't ready for it.

Nick Goodall

30-10-2006, 04:53 PM

:D I know what you mean, i remember Ellis running a Cat in 4wd, and then Losi since the XX-4 came out - it must be weird changing after all these years!

Chris i guess is the same, from the Juniours i did in 93 he was running Losi & Schumacher and then Losi's ever since!

Wonder if there will be any more changes before the 2007 season?

Will be good to see some more 4wd's running next time, i wonder what sort of lap times they'll do in the dry :eek: ! Lee's managed a Sub 21 with his B4 in the dry!

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 04:53 PM

bathy mate, any chance of seeing any pics of my old car lol.

i really fancey anouther one of them lol . but i always make the mistake of geting rid of a car ive jst got used to lol

Bathy

30-10-2006, 05:14 PM

bathy mate, any chance of seeing any pics of my old car lol.

i really fancey anouther one of them lol . but i always make the mistake of geting rid of a car ive jst got used to lol

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1312 :)

jim76

30-10-2006, 05:18 PM

when's the next installment of the Bathy "mint" series then David? you seemed to take a fair bit of footage. Shame we were in the same race, i won't be in the next vid! :(

Lee Martin

30-10-2006, 05:51 PM

yeh bathy! hurry up! lol

telboy

30-10-2006, 07:13 PM

any idea if this track would be likely to be on the nationals list in 2007?

looks like it deserved to.

xx4-nutter

30-10-2006, 08:53 PM

bathy i hate you lol

damn they look good lol

_JP_

30-10-2006, 09:15 PM

awsome Pic's Jimmy!

Pidge the track looks awsome, as soon as I am walking and driving I'm sure I'll be down for a play even see if I can drag Butch along :)

jimmy

31-10-2006, 02:21 AM

past 2am on a school night and I am writing a report that no one will ever read ! why !? :rolleyes:
Interviewage by Vicky - some stuff from Tris and Truman to be added, but its 220 am, what do you want - blood ?

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/ (http://www.oople.com/forums/../rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/cmlraceway291006/splash.jpg

Chris Doughty

31-10-2006, 08:04 AM

"no one will ever read"

you could not be more wrong Jimmy!

Sorry Vicky, I was in bed when you sent those messages, I left my laptop on to monitor some stuff for work. drop me a PM and I will answer the questions for you.

wouter.z

31-10-2006, 08:19 AM

past 2am on a school night and I am writing a report that no one will ever read ! why !? :rolleyes:

Well i read it, nice report. Would love to drive on cml raceway 1 day, track looks very good.

Nick Goodall

31-10-2006, 09:13 AM

Superb report Jimmy, you're a true Pro!!!

I shall send the link on to some other racers to see if i can persuade them to come and have a go!

Thanks again :)

Mrs oOple

31-10-2006, 09:31 AM

I shall send the link on to some other racers to see if i can persuade them to come and have a go!

I don't think they'll take a lot of persuasion! The track is fantastic. Jimmy did a top job on the report, perfection as usual :jimmeh

xox

jim76

31-10-2006, 09:36 AM

i've read it! top standard as usual.

ashleyb4

31-10-2006, 10:56 AM

Thats mean jimmy i really really want to go now it seams awsome.:(

Mr martin please have a national next year then i can have a go becuase its to far to travel for a one day event.:rolleyes:

Great review though jimmy top notch as usual

A:D

Lee Martin

31-10-2006, 11:34 AM

jimmy you have excelled once again!

could not have asked for a better report! truely amazing!!!!

interviews are awesome!

'cheers vickster!

woooop wooooppp!!! get to cml raceway!

Sebastian

31-10-2006, 11:44 AM

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/cml001.jpg

Hi Jimmy! Is that Photoshop? :eek:

Cheers

Sebastian

jimmy

31-10-2006, 11:47 AM

lol, no, its about an 8 second exposure at night with the camera resting on a fence post. its been lightened slightly from the original but thats about it.

Sebastian

31-10-2006, 11:57 AM

Looks damn good. Especially around the bus with its illuminated windows ... :cyclops:

Bathy

31-10-2006, 12:27 PM

past 2am on a school night and I am writing a report that no one will ever read ! why !? :rolleyes:
Interviewage by Vicky - some stuff from Tris and Truman to be added, but its 220 am, what do you want - blood ?

I read it, was a really good read as well your efforts are well worth it Jimmy, I'm sure many more people will come along to the next one... all this good promotion of the track!

Even I got a mention *chuffed* big thanks to the two guys who drove off the track, just in time to allow me the win. :p

I should have a new PC soon and this will enable me to knock up videos at home (rather than ‘later’ nights at the office), I will do one specific for the CML track as soon as I get time.

BenG

31-10-2006, 12:32 PM

That track looks sweet, nice3 pics too Jimmy, I might have to give the aero2 a whizz round this track :-D

daz_75

31-10-2006, 03:54 PM

Wow, that track looks great, love the pics too.

PaulRotheram

31-10-2006, 06:41 PM

What have i told you about staying up on a school night Jimmy.. pff :p

Great report as always mate, get a hit counter up, think you'd be surprised how many will view it.

tyreman

31-10-2006, 07:21 PM

The track is great to drive, really rewarding too. It did take a couple of practices to get the jumps right though.

telboy

31-10-2006, 09:38 PM

top work dude and dudette, well worth the effort.

a couple of things i like (appart from the track)........

............the tigger airfreshener......nice choice:cool: ...........

.......and the bus! how ace is that?!.....just needs a roof now!:D ..

nice work.

........oh, and the red/pink hair....smart..........

jimmy

31-10-2006, 11:06 PM

Cheers mate, I just added 3 more interviews to the report ! (at the bottom of the page) vicky went over the top! haha- it's all good fun.

telboy

31-10-2006, 11:13 PM

top stuff.

ace photo's too.

how much room for pitting do they have there? would it be able to handle a national?

jimmy

31-10-2006, 11:35 PM

Yea, Lees dad pointed to a massive field behind the trees which they own and can use for a National.
I am hoping there will be a nice big meeting there next year some time, national or not, I think it would be really good