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James
17-09-2013, 02:33 PM
Good luck to all our UK drivers heading out there this week !

IFMAR's own website links the official page to here - http://www.amainhobbies.com/iFMAR2013/

So I imagine there'll be live timing on there.


Who are your bets on?

Dudders
17-09-2013, 02:54 PM
Maybe this year it's going to be less of who and more a question of with what?

C4.2?, Mid Losi? X-ray 2wd? Be very interesting if the Yanks go for mid motored cars.

Allan1875
17-09-2013, 03:21 PM
Good luck guys.

Ty Tessman is looking good, also Maifield. Hard to rule out Jorn though.

Good luck to Neil, Lee and all UK entrants.

Belsten
17-09-2013, 04:20 PM
My money would be on any of these
Lee, Neil, Cav or Maifield

NeilD
17-09-2013, 04:41 PM
Cav has to be the favourite but hoping Neil does the business.

Berky
17-09-2013, 06:00 PM
Maybe this year it's going to be less of who and more a question of with what?

C4.2?, Mid Losi? X-ray 2wd? Be very interesting if the Yanks go for mid motored cars.

At the US Nationals held at the same venue it was the REAR motor losi that took the spoils on the sugared track.

My money is still on a Maifield, Cav or Cragg to win!

Chris Larner
17-09-2013, 06:49 PM
Jared Tebo for the win in 4wd.

neallewis
17-09-2013, 06:52 PM
Is there a list of our UK drivers competing James? I know Ben is off as I spoke to him about it at the weekend but wondered who else to look out for. I'll look forward to catching the liverc coverage when I can. Is anyone from the UK doing reports?

Swell
17-09-2013, 07:38 PM
I'll look forward to catching the liverc coverage when I can.

Where can you get live rc... Neal?

James
17-09-2013, 07:50 PM
LiveRC will be your best bet for up to date coverage I reckon.

I think the Brits who are going are:

Cragg
Bloomfield
Martin
Stanton
Jemison
Moss
Yardy
Cockerill
Boots

Swell
17-09-2013, 08:05 PM
Cheers had a look :thumbsup: never knew about that...

racingdwarf
17-09-2013, 08:29 PM
Hmm boots, could be a wild card particularly in 4wd

GRIFF55
17-09-2013, 08:45 PM
Tesseman ( if that's how you spell it) will be in the mix for sure.
Roll on the uk boys, let's have another world champ here:thumbsup:
Good luck all

discothesnake
17-09-2013, 10:33 PM
Naoto for TQ in 4wd. Doubt he will win but he'll be quick in qualifying.

Belsten
18-09-2013, 05:19 AM
Stanton for the win :thumbsup:

If there arent any jumps :D

JohnM
18-09-2013, 06:36 AM
Jared Tebo for the win in 4wd.

Has he left Kyosho?

Jonesy
18-09-2013, 07:17 AM
Stanton for the win :thumbsup:

If there arent any jumps :D



You beat me to it Bav!!! Come on STANTON :thumbsup:

MatJohnson
18-09-2013, 07:35 AM
Great, nice to see I will be on the same timezone so won't have to stop up late :)

zaquiz
20-09-2013, 04:47 PM
Hey! You can follow our live coverage of the worlds on our fb page!

facebook.com/attackrc

chris68nufc
20-09-2013, 06:06 PM
I guarantee Elliott boots will have the quickest lap there out of anybody, if he could do it without mistakes he would be a good bet, I think the yanks are far too practiced on clay for anybody to be contending the championship. Good luck to all of the UK guys....there's not a bad driver amongst them on that list!

GRIFF55
20-09-2013, 09:13 PM
Stants not going:thumbdown:
Hope I can get my 100 grand wager on him winning back!! :woot:

stegger
20-09-2013, 10:14 PM
Mod 4WD Buggy
1 Tessmann
2 Cavalieri
3 Neumann
Mod 2WD Buggy
1 Cragg
2 Evans
3 Matsukura

James
22-09-2013, 06:53 PM
Looks a bit moist on t-minus one day to go.. Its so hot there when the sun shines I'm sure they'll be ok though!

LiveRC coverage of the opening ceremony starts at midnight tonight UK time.

James
22-09-2013, 07:29 PM
Bit more on Neo and a photo of our boys here :)

http://www.neobuggy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/EUR_9369.jpg

I still don't get why more dirt tracks don't utilise wimbledon style pull over covers :confused:

neallewis
23-09-2013, 09:31 AM
http://www.liverc.com/photos/albums/66-2013_IFMAR_1%3A10_Electric_Off-Road_Worlds/DSC_6941-2/md/

triplesix
23-09-2013, 09:38 AM
Anyone knowing what's going on with Team Durango at the wolds?
I haven't seen any pics of Hupo nor Neumann or their cars respectively...

NeilD
23-09-2013, 09:52 AM
Anyone knowing what's going on with Team Durango at the wolds?
I haven't seen any pics of Hupo nor Neumann or their cars respectively...


Hupo and Jörn arrived in SF yesterday, not sure when but it was late evening European time.

nivek
23-09-2013, 05:37 PM
A Proud moment for Mike, Carrying the Union Jack and leading team GB out

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

steveproracing
24-09-2013, 10:22 PM
Congrats to lee who has just tqed rd 2 of qualifying.
Darren and Neil also in top 5!! Gwan da uk bredren!!

Nicolas Petit
24-09-2013, 11:02 PM
http://petitrc.smugmug.com/Hobbies/2013-Off-Road-WC/Day3-Tuesday-24/i-2ZVW5VH/0/L/DSC_7111-L.jpg

Lee Martin, TQ in R2 :thumbsup:

Petitrc's live coverage with awesome pictures!!
http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?73616-PETITRC-LIVE-Coverage-2013-IFMAR-Off-Road-Worlds-Championship-22-29-sept-2013

Nicolas Petit
24-09-2013, 11:05 PM
We did a "focus on" Tom Yardy: :woot:

http://petitrc.smugmug.com/Hobbies/2013-Off-Road-WC/Day-2-Monday-23/i-JCCD5dt/0/L/DSC_6371-L.jpg

http://petitrc.smugmug.com/Hobbies/2013-Off-Road-WC/Day-2-Monday-23/i-MSrbqg9/0/M/DSC_6235-M.jpg


All details -> http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?73720-PETITRC-Focus-on-Tom-Yardy-2013-IFMAR-Off-Road-Worlds-Championship-22-29-sept-2013

Kosmickid
24-09-2013, 11:34 PM
Anyone knowing what's going on with Team Durango at the wolds?
I haven't seen any pics of Hupo nor Neumann or their cars respectively...

Loads of pics:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136827

http://www.neobuggy.net/2013/09/24/team-durango-dex210-v2-spy-shots/

Nicolas Petit
25-09-2013, 03:30 AM
Another focus on UK driver: Lee Martin/TRF201XM

http://petitrc.smugmug.com/Hobbies/2013-Off-Road-WC/Day3-Tuesday-24/i-5dzCVV3/0/L/DSC_7094-L.jpg

http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?73616-PETITRC-LIVE-Coverage-2013-IFMAR-Off-Road-Worlds-Championship-22-29-sept-2013/page3

also some awesome pictures in the gallery "Day 3" (see homepage)

cutting42
25-09-2013, 10:15 AM
Oh Dear

http://www.neobuggy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/EUR_0582-640x426.jpg

MatJohnson
25-09-2013, 11:55 AM
That same front seems to be going through the whole country, looking at the weather channel it seems to pick up again behind it.

terry.sc
25-09-2013, 12:10 PM
Interesting following the thread on RCTech, all the Americans discovering there is another R/C world outside their borders, such as shaft drive 2wds.

A couple of great quotes:Wait, wait, wait..... who is using the stick transmitter? Seriously though. How can you drive sticks at a world champion level?
I'm not saying that I could beat them....I am just shocked that sticks can really hang on a level like that.Apart from their ignorance about what transmitter Hirosaka uses, they are talking about Darren Bloomfield. he seems to be managing fine with sticks.:lol:

Mike Haswell
25-09-2013, 12:15 PM
And you can add Collari and Spashett to the list of multi world champions who use sticks.

Northy
25-09-2013, 12:43 PM
VERY and I stress VERY unofficial word from the event but the track crew thought the track might not be ready again until Friday night :cry:

So no one knows whats going to happen, my best guess would be rescheduling to allow finals to run maybe at the expense of some of the 4wd running?

G

JohnM
25-09-2013, 01:47 PM
Oh Dear

http://www.neobuggy.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/EUR_0582-640x426.jpg

If only it was held on a astro track instead.

cutting42
25-09-2013, 02:05 PM
If only it was held on a astro track instead.

Or maybe use some sort of cover like RHR Dirt maybe?

Sounds like we can educate the US on more than drive trains and Stick Tx

stegger
25-09-2013, 02:24 PM
Interesting following the thread on RCTech, all the Americans discovering there is another R/C world outside their borders, such as shaft drive 2wds.

A couple of great quotes:
Apart from their ignorance about what transmitter Hirosaka uses, they are talking about Darren Bloomfield. he seems to be managing fine with sticks.:lol:
It's a wonder they haven't been rounded up and burnt at the stake for there witchcraft... LOL

_valtsu_
25-09-2013, 03:29 PM
Some pictures from the race:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117906802082541935034/albums/5926478950253104689

-Team Finland

johnboy
25-09-2013, 05:03 PM
Round 5 binned so Tebo is TQ with Martin , Bloomfield and cragg in the A final

racingdwarf
25-09-2013, 06:04 PM
yer and cragg has changed sides:lol: kept that quiet

adam_u
25-09-2013, 06:29 PM
Three Brits in the top ten at the Worlds (on clay) is outstanding :thumbsup:

neallewis
25-09-2013, 09:28 PM
Some pictures from the race:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117906802082541935034/albums/5926478950253104689

-Team Finland

_valtsu_ what happened here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117906802082541935034/albums/5926478950253104689/5927438618406061858?pid=5927438618406061858&oid=117906802082541935034

neallewis
26-09-2013, 12:46 AM
Go Neil! A1 - 2nd from 10th on grid.

Dodgy Guy
26-09-2013, 12:55 AM
what a great race that was!

RobPaynter
26-09-2013, 01:03 AM
Top Race!!!!!!!!!!!

A2 is going to be epec!!!!!!!

Dudders
26-09-2013, 01:10 AM
^^^ agreed

Kosmickid
26-09-2013, 01:20 AM
Where are you watching the coverage guys? LiveRC?

Dudders
26-09-2013, 01:24 AM
Yes....

A Main 2 about to start...

Kosmickid
26-09-2013, 01:26 AM
I'm getting a blank grey screen?

Edit: sorted now thanks

Frecklychimp
26-09-2013, 01:30 AM
Crystal clear here and this is going to be an awesome race!

neallewis
26-09-2013, 01:31 AM
Where are you watching the coverage guys? LiveRC?

http://live.liverc.com/167-IFMAR_110_Electric_Off-Road_Worlds/

RobPaynter
26-09-2013, 01:40 AM
Well done Tebo!!!!!

neallewis
26-09-2013, 03:09 AM
Well done to Lee Martin for 2nd overall, Neil Cragg for 5th, Darren Bloomfield 7th, and Ben Jemison for 2nd in the H final.

Frecklychimp
26-09-2013, 03:19 AM
Congrats to Lee for a well earned 2nd :thumbsup:

Ben's got a re-run of the H final to endure :thumbdown:

Legacy555
26-09-2013, 07:47 AM
When was the last time Japanese manufacturers took the first two places at the 2wd worlds?

arransmith27
26-09-2013, 07:53 AM
1987

AJ Roberts
26-09-2013, 08:06 AM
Well done to all the Brits :thumbsup:

Adam F
26-09-2013, 09:00 AM
Anyone know where the full results are?

terry.sc
26-09-2013, 10:14 AM
You can find the results somewhere on LiveRCs website, but Littlevette has been posting his own on RCTech.

A1 Final (http://www.rctech.net/forum/12577401-post1203.html)
A2 Final (http://www.rctech.net/forum/12577680-post1229.html)
A3 Final (http://www.rctech.net/forum/12578042-post1262.html)

fil9144
26-09-2013, 12:05 PM
Well done Tebo!!!!!

Just goes to show what a great car the rb6

Dudders
26-09-2013, 12:22 PM
In the right hands, any car can be good. We are lucky to have so many decent cars on the market.

h0m3sy
26-09-2013, 01:39 PM
I agree, having stayed up to daft o'clock to watch the racing, there were so many different brands represented in the A main. They all looked capable, Tebo drove the best on the day, that's why he won.

CARB
26-09-2013, 04:36 PM
The one thing that bugs me is that if a driver wins the first two legs he then sits out the third, if I had gone to watch this meeting I would have been well disappointed, as the same as what happened in the Euros, perhaps it should be the best of the three rounds and not two.

this way the result is more open and the sponsors and track get more coverage of all the drivers in the final, the other thing to do would be for the second leg the grid positions are as per the result of the first and so on, this way the best driver will be the overall winner. and is this not about the best in the world and the result will not be weighted so much on the qualifying.

Benh
26-09-2013, 04:50 PM
The one thing that bugs me is that if a driver wins the first two legs he then sits out the third, if I had gone to watch this meeting I would have been well disappointed, as the same as what happened in the Euros, perhaps it should be the best of the three rounds and not two.

this way the result is more open and the sponsors and track get more coverage of all the drivers in the final, the other thing to do would be for the second leg the grid positions are as per the result of the first and so on, this way the best driver will be the overall winner. and is this not about the best in the world and the result will not be weighted so much on the qualifying.

With the best skills in the world, you can't stop someone punting you in the backside and ruining your race. 2 from 3 is a balance that rewards consistency but forgives a moment of chaos. Also, if you bag the win in the 1st two rounds, it's the risk of causing a problem and getting a penalty which is why you sit out.

CARB
26-09-2013, 05:08 PM
ah guess you got me there, fantastic race and well done guys

Adam F
26-09-2013, 06:06 PM
Great result from the UK team, Lee was really unlucky in the second leg..

Amazingly competitive considering we don't have many native dirt tracks...

CARB
26-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Here are the 2wd results

http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IFMAR_Final_World_Rankings.pdf

Welshy40
27-09-2013, 07:08 AM
Jimmy,

Are you doing a report? Cant be bothered with the awful links.

5POINTSTAR
27-09-2013, 08:17 AM
Just goes to show what a great car the rb6
And shows just how good Tebo is. His words "the least mistakes will win"

Proud to see Lee take 2nd for Tamiya/TRF, hopefully he brings home Tamiyas first offroad Worlds in 4WD :thumbsup: ...

4WD will be electrifying with so many world/former world champs in the running...

Aire valley
27-09-2013, 09:11 AM
Here are the 2wd results

http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IFMAR_Final_World_Rankings.pdf

That's brilliant....thanks... :thumbsup:

Npdp72
27-09-2013, 09:45 AM
Were the 2wd B and C finals videoed?
Can't seem to find them.

cutting42
27-09-2013, 11:10 AM
A Main 1

NIcoACledJk

A Main 2

QGRMzG5oj_I

A Main 3

t8elGefJI1s

JohnM
27-09-2013, 12:13 PM
4WD will be electrifying with so many world/former world champs in the running...

It will indeed, especially when you think of the peeps like Tessman & Jorn whose 2wd didn't quite go to plan, they'll be out to prove something.

Add in the new cars (2wd was a bit flat for new things) like the TLR, HB D413 & V4 Durango & it'll be great to watch.

Benh
27-09-2013, 04:54 PM
Just popped on to the live feed - The cars are so quick, it looks like the film has been sped up.

AfroP
27-09-2013, 05:07 PM
Cavalieri is a really impressive driver

chuckie stella
27-09-2013, 05:10 PM
Go on the Brits!

Lee, almost in 2wd pal, bring home the 4wd :thumbsup:

SlowOne
27-09-2013, 07:12 PM
There's some good drivers in the nether reaches of the list...

Rick Hohwart 34th, Barry Baker 41st, Hupo Honigl 56th and Brian Kinwald 61st. That has to be some tough track to have these guys in those positions. Respect to Jared and huge congratulations to Lee, Neil and Darren. Good work, guys. :thumbsup:

dpackster1980
27-09-2013, 07:57 PM
It will indeed, especially when you think of the peeps like Tessman & Jorn whose 2wd didn't quite go to plan, they'll be out to prove something.

Add in the new cars (2wd was a bit flat for new things) like the TLR, HB D413 & V4 Durango & it'll be great to watch.

You forgot about the new Yokomo 4wd. :p

Chris Larner
27-09-2013, 08:00 PM
And Kyosho ZX6

JohnM
27-09-2013, 09:31 PM
You forgot about the new Yokomo 4wd. :p

Not really, we've all seen it weeks ago now, so it's not as interesting as other new cars:p

JohnM
27-09-2013, 09:34 PM
And Kyosho ZX6

Kyosho lost any chance that I'd be interested in what they do when they got Gil Losi jr signed, then seemingly got him sweeping the floors instead of designing cars;)

We shouldn't have been waiting for Losi to redo the XX4, there should've been a Kyosho XX4 years ago.

RobW
27-09-2013, 10:22 PM
I'm getting a blank grey screen?

Edit: sorted now thanks

How did you sort it?

I'm getting chat and scoring but no video.

Rob

stall4king
28-09-2013, 07:21 AM
You forgot about the new Yokomo 4wd. :p

And the new Team C 4wd, TM4 :thumbsup:

jayropes
28-09-2013, 08:05 AM
Has anyone seen a drivers list which also lists the team they drive for??
So many drivers I'm finding it hard to work out who drives for who!!
Also wanted to see how many xray's were out there!!
I know that Tyler vik is doing well but don't know if he's the only one??

Chesty
28-09-2013, 08:11 AM
In 4wd there are:

50 Associated
8 Xrays
7 Durangos

Amongst others

Nic told me (& it's on Petit rc):thumbsup:

Kosmickid
28-09-2013, 08:53 AM
How did you sort it?

I'm getting chat and scoring but no video.

Rob

It's running on adobe flash which I was trying to watch on my ipad which obviously isn't supported. Used my laptop and its fine. What device are you using?

RobW
28-09-2013, 10:30 AM
It's running on adobe flash which I was trying to watch on my ipad which obviously isn't supported. Used my laptop and its fine. What device are you using?

Ah, that probably the problem. Using a samsung tab. I'll dig my laptop out.

Thanks

Rob

ian h
28-09-2013, 10:51 AM
It's running on adobe flash which I was trying to watch on my ipad which obviously isn't supported. Used my laptop and its fine. What device are you using?
You need to go on the mobile site for video on ipad etc mobile.liverc.com

mikeyscott
28-09-2013, 11:01 AM
It's running on adobe flash which I was trying to watch on my ipad which obviously isn't supported. Used my laptop and its fine. What device are you using?

Good ole Flash! The most insecure software on the net lol

Dudders
28-09-2013, 11:30 AM
I'm watching on my ipad via Photon App.

Kosmickid
28-09-2013, 03:10 PM
You need to go on the mobile site for video on ipad etc mobile.liverc.com

Nice one, ill give it a try!

Edit: No worky! I'm getting

"Mobile video is reserved for Bonus Lap and/or All Access Pass members only."

I'll just stick to me laptop for now. May try the Photon app Dudders, thanks for the tip.

Frecklychimp
28-09-2013, 10:06 PM
So any other oOplers glued to the Worlds qualifiers tonight?

:thumbsup:

Benh
28-09-2013, 10:15 PM
So any other oOplers glued to the Worlds qualifiers tonight?

:thumbsup:

Yep. Wondering how many decent results I need to catch some monkey sitting atop of the LRC bucks table.

Frecklychimp
29-09-2013, 05:20 PM
A Main 1... wow, what a scrappy race!

Kosmickid
29-09-2013, 05:42 PM
A Main 1... wow, what a scrappy race!

You mean 2wd? As 4wd hasn't started yet I don't think?!

Kosmickid
29-09-2013, 05:52 PM
Ah I see, they've brought the finals forward due to the weather. A2 at 7.10pm

MHeadling
29-09-2013, 05:53 PM
A-Main Leg 1 Result
1.(6) Steven Hartson – Associated – 11/5:00.626
2.(3) Ty Tessman – HB – 11/5:02.614
3.(8) Naoto Matsukura – Yokomo – 11/5:04.084
4.(1) Joern Neumann – Durango – 11/5:04.625
5.(2) Ryan Cavalieri – Associated – 11/5:04.966
6.(4) Ryan Maifield – Associated – 11/5:05.349
7.(5) Lee Martin – Tamiya – 11/5:07.938
8.(10)Dakotah Phend – TLR – 11/5:11.809
9.(7) Ryan Lutz – Durango – 9/4:10.499
10.(9)Travis Amezcua – Durango – 2/00:48.937

paul kenealy
29-09-2013, 06:12 PM
why are GB drivers better at 2wd than 4wd?:(

Frecklychimp
29-09-2013, 06:16 PM
why are GB drivers better at 2wd than 4wd?:(

Thats not really the case, GB Drivers are all very quick with 4WD's too, was just so close with times this year, very quick track

Tebo didn't even make A which is a shock!

Allan1875
29-09-2013, 06:41 PM
Thats not really the case, GB Drivers are all very quick with 4WD's too, was just so close with times this year, very quick track

Tebo didn't even make A which is a shock!

Or B, C or D.

5POINTSTAR
29-09-2013, 06:58 PM
Naoto Matsukura won A2

edit:
Steven Hartson (AE) 4WD World Champ!

Aire valley
29-09-2013, 08:16 PM
Well done to Hartson and AE.. Shame the racing was spoilt by mid-air collisions ,you would think that they would know, at that level , that you can't steer a car in the air.. :lol: or maybe the big jumps are to blame..!

h0m3sy
29-09-2013, 08:21 PM
Hats off to Masukura for stopping for Hartson, true sportsman :thumbsup:

chuckie stella
29-09-2013, 08:22 PM
Naoto, good on him for pulling over. I know others that wouldn't and leave that to the officials to decide! Just awesome respect!!:thumbsup:

neallewis
29-09-2013, 08:35 PM
Fantastic finals, A3 is manic! Gutting for Naoto after all that work to get to 2nd, but a proper sportsman letting him go.

Here they are:

A1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmvf8-iK3Og
Fmvf8-iK3Og

A2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKAqtx6sxg
weKAqtx6sxg

A3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsX2AxNCUYw
AsX2AxNCUYw

Good win for Neil in the B Main also. Well done to the other Brits, inc Ben Jem for 5th in E, one behind the 2wd world champ, Tebo.

Twister
29-09-2013, 09:37 PM
Great racing and good sportsmanship by cavalieri and Matsokura.:thumbsup:

V6Jim
29-09-2013, 09:45 PM
I could watch that 3rd leg all day. Good commentary too. Good stuff!

neallewis
29-09-2013, 10:49 PM
Great racing and good sportsmanship by cavalieri and Matsokura.:thumbsup:


Cav took two people out in three finals, plus throws his radio when he looses. Which bit did you mean?

Origineelreclamebord
30-09-2013, 07:14 AM
Always an interesting event, the Worlds - it has been fun following it! :)

Just a note I want to make though: I think one of the goals in these events is close racing - Things were close, but I feel on this track the drivers were fighting the grip roll first (amongst other challenging features of the track), the other drivers second.

Lower speeds/grip levels are more inviting for drivers to make a daring move if you ask me (Click and go to 1:26 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PMclCv_8Jc)) - the consequences of taking a wrong line or even contact between cars is less dramatic (Click and go to 3:48 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kEWIULW3o)). Also, cars will be visually closer to each other, making the race easier to oversee and more spectacular for spectators.

I hope to see a lower bite track like the one in Finland again in 2015 :)

discothesnake
30-09-2013, 07:37 AM
Well done to Hartson and AE.. Shame the racing was spoilt by mid-air collisions ,you would think that they would know, at that level , that you can't steer a car in the air.. :lol: or maybe the big jumps are to blame..!

You can't blame Naoto for going for it. It was the last lap of the Worlds decider!!!

Great racing but I felt the track let the racing down a bit.

As for the two top Americans, I think the both of them can be a bit nasty on the track. Maifield especially.

jason-l
30-09-2013, 09:43 AM
Lower speeds/grip levels are more inviting for drivers to make a daring move if you ask me (Click and go to 1:26 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PMclCv_8Jc))

Every time I watch a finals video from 2011 I can't help but compare the fantastic intimacy of the venue and the size of the spectator crowd versus the barren venue appearance and sparsely populated grandstand of this year's Worlds.