Schumacher @THE WORLDS

[DCM]

Just been looking at the pics on NeoBuggy, it looks like Simon Moss is running an SV2/K1 hybrid, any news or pics about it?

[adey]

Haven't schumacher just released their cougar kr for this type of surface. ?

[bobbin]

Haven't schumacher just released their cougar kr for this type of surface. ?

most if not all are using mid motor cars because the track is being sugared and has simular grip levels as astro

[moth898]

Tom had a great run and qualified 8, right in the middle of the over payed americans:thumbsup::):thumbsup:

[DCM]

This is definitely not an SV or SV2

http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2013Races/Worlds/Day-2-2wd/i-cjH54Jg/0/X2/AT4_9793-X2.jpg

[bobbin]

looks more like an SX3 centre section than a K1 one, would make sense as the belt would be in the middle if they did use the SX3 rear drive train

[johnboy]

looks more like an SX3 centre section than a K1 one, would make sense as the belt would be in the middle if they did use the SX3 rear drive train

And how on earth can you tell that from that pic :confused:

[bobbin]

Having owned a sx3 and now running a k1 looking through the window it looks very sx3 to me, might be wrong but the screws look in the right place

[CARB]

yes you could be right about the SX3 as the centre transmission looks the same, zoom in on the window on the image, but could this be the birth of another car configuration rear, mid and now a forward mid motor.

[bobbin]

Makes sense to take a forward, mid and rear motor 2wd cars to the world's, I would.
Seeing how the rudebits db1 and now db2 handle round my local track Schumacher would be silly not to consider a forward motor layout car, Maybe the 4wd converted to 2wd success has got them thinking

[FrogPrince82]

yes you could be right about the SX3 as the centre transmission looks the same, zoom in on the window on the image, but could this be the birth of another car configuration rear, mid and now a forward mid motor.

+1

The KR is following their new design trend set of the K1 and the SV2 is probably due an upgrade in light of all the other companies coming out with new 2wds.

They may be following the trend set by the TM2 (and suspected of the XRay XB2) of using a 4wd rear section and 2wd front section.

Would be interesting if someone manages to grab a body off shot :thumbsup:

[terry.sc]

Well at least no one can moan about it being a 4wd car running in 2wd.:lol:

[Tobamory]

get mine tomorrow :) well the KR as they called it

to complement my K1

I,ll paste paint job once its complete, Paint by Mike Parker

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/littleted61/IMG_0691.jpg

[FrogPrince82]

Well at least no one can moan about it being a 4wd car running in 2wd.:lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

[DCM]

It is a K1, as the spur is on the right on the K1 and not the left, if it was the SX3, you wouldn't see the layshaft bearing.

[mark christopher]

It is a K1, as the spur is on the right on the K1 and not the left, if it was the SX3, you wouldn't see the layshaft bearing.
deff not a k1 housing
k1 layshaft is far lower (level with lipo height) in the pic you can see the cover for the ratio gears on the other side and the top of the spur in front of the layshaft bearing nearest camera.
just comapared my k1 and sx3 def the later

[DCM]

hmmm, interesting.... I can't see Simon Moss running a one off Moss special though?

[FrogPrince82]

hmmm, interesting.... I can't see Simon Moss running a one off Moss special though?

So that may mean that we are looking at the next 2wd from the Schumacher stable then???

If it is, I hope they change the production bodyshell!

[ian h]

Tom 10th in round 1. Good lad!

[gazhillAE]

Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons!
Sx3 rear end by looks of it and it's definetly belt driven the new one

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hillgm/null_zps683912c5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hillgm/null_zps5e820f79.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hillgm/null_zps7a8490e3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hillgm/null_zpsf7cd789b.png

[mark christopher]

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45627&d=1353602108 (http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45627&d=1353602108)

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45734&d=1353791914 (http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45734&d=1353791914)

from this time last year http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112797

[gazhillAE]

Think the battery is down one side from the pic

[CAT3K]

Here's some pics of the car.

http://www.rc10talk.com/download/file.php?id=78687

http://www.rc10talk.com/download/file.php?id=78686

[mark christopher]

No k1 motor mount there dcm...but belt tension new to sx3 housing

[mark christopher]

Looks like saddle to me with brass weight in centre

[gazhillAE]

Here's some pics of the car.

http://www.rc10talk.com/download/file.php?id=78687

http://www.rc10talk.com/download/file.php?id=78686

Who's the norty boy !!!!

[Alan - South West RC]

Not a lot of space in there!

[Lonestar]

Might be fair to put a link to the original pic set ;)

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=32704&p=350741

Thanks farmer for the pix!

Paul

[gazhillAE]

Might be fair to put a link to the original pic set ;)

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=32704&p=350741

Thanks farmer for the pix!

Paul

I was going to say!
Everyone else was advised no photos lol

[CARB]

Technically it looks good but is it not getting a little complicated and with all that extra stuff more expensive when the leading cars are of a standard design.

I would have thought developing a car with a lower centre of gravity and around the shorty LiPo is where the improvements were to be found, as this would improve corner speed and stop grip roll, the shorty has to be the way forward as it gives you so much scope to move weight around the chassis, As am example the Bed Bull F1 car has the smallest physical size KERs in Formula, can you imagin Mr Newey using a full size stick or saddle if he were to design a buggy, now there is a thought.

Sorry to wander off the subject

Guess if it wins then we will all want one ,but it is a pitty as we will not see how well Simon would have gone with a SV2, best of luck guys

[Lonestar]

Everyone else was advised no photos lol

Looks like noone advised him ;)

Paul

[mark christopher]

Technically it looks good but is it not getting a little complicated and with all that extra stuff more expensive when the leading cars are of a standard design.

I would have thought developing a car with a lower centre of gravity and around the shorty LiPo is where the improvements were to be found, as this would improve corner speed and stop grip roll, the shorty has to be the way forward as it gives you so much scope to move weight around the chassis, As am example the Bed Bull F1 car has the smallest physical size KERs in Formula, can you imagin Mr Newey using a full size stick or saddle if he were to design a buggy, now there is a thought.

Sorry to wander off the subject

Guess if it wins then we will all want one ,but it is a pitty as we will not see how well Simon would have gone with a SV2, best of luck guys


All well and good but roar currently have a rule where the chassis can not be stubby only. All those extra bits?

[Mitch269]

I hope the rest of the guys do better with the sv2 so they never think of making that!!

[maineyak]

oops sorry. someone beat me to the piccies above..

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[gazhillAE]

http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?73751-Schumacher-2wd-Prototype-IFMAR-Off-Road-Worlds-Championship&

[Ritchie T]

http://www.neobuggy.net/2013/09/25/under-thood-schumacher-cougar-proto/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

http://events.redrc.net/2013/09/chassis-focus-tom-cockerill/

[Groomi]

http://events.redrc.net/2013/09/chassis-focus-tom-cockerill/

[Thomas B]

I had to make one. Problem to fit the bodie on. Test drive tomorrow.
58072

[Npdp72]

Has anyone found any video footage of Tom or Simon running these hybrid cars?

[CARB]

or the overall results interested to see where we came

[mw02veg]

http://www.neobuggy.net/worlds-q4-standings/

[madmulc]

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45627&d=1353602108 (http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45627&d=1353602108)

http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45734&d=1353791914 (http://www.oople.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45734&d=1353791914)

from this time last year http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112797

This is my car which I never got round to finishing as I lost my job :cry: I am looking at doing something new instead now that I have a new Job. I am like the look of simons and toms new car, I hope the release one soon lol

[Mwarren]

Robin was interviewed @Mendip today and he said it will be out for Xmas :thumbsup:

[alex97]

Any one got any ideas on price ???

[Thomas B]

Anyone knows the gearing in the prototype? Spure and pinion?

[Pulse]

what will be the name of this new buggy?

[Juicy74]

SV3???

[badger5]

Is the Cougar KM too obvious?

[FrogPrince82]

This appears to be a more experimental/specialist chassis, so not an all rounder like the SV2.

Therefore I think they will keep the KM name for an SV2 replacement.

As this one is more a "motor forward" set-up compared to the SV2, I think they will call it KF.

[Al3xis007]

It'll be the kf, f for forward motor as oposed to kr for rear.
I think it's the k1 rear end with an extra gear in to make the motor spin the other/normal direction cause the motor on the k1 is on the left I think