Clubman thoughts...

[cunawarit]

Hi chaps,

Let me preface this by saying that none of this is a moan, complaint, b*tch or anything of the sort.

I think that we can all agree that the Clubman has evolved to be a no slower than any other class. I know that all along people have had different ideas of what Clubman means and what the restrictions should be. Largely, I dislike the idea of restrictions and I prefer to operate in a manner where gentlemen behave like gentlemen and we all act accordingly without strict written rules to spoil the fun.

The idea that everyone needs to run a silvercan, or similarly slow motor, is something that should be ignored. The problem is that we are running very different cars, the tourers cannot keep up with the F1s if they run the same motor. I think we should all agree on that. This is where being a gentleman becomes important, we should agree that none of us will run a motor that produces uncontrollable power, some of us are running cars that have been out of production for a while or that are limited edition. Driving round the track with poor control because you are a beginner is acceptable, but doing the same because you have actively chosen to have a car with too much power is uncouth! The actions of a savage individual and as such it should be frowned upon.

To summarize, in my view Clubman is about a number of different things to different people: out of the ordinary cars, fun racing, scale Tamiya bodies, etc… But I propose that we all agree that the main thing Clubman stands for is gentlemanly behaviour and driving standards. A class where you can race your pride and joy knowing that everyone on track is doing their absolute best to drive in a controlled fashion... If someone isn't driving to that standard I simply propose we have a chat with them.

Your thoughts and ideas are welcome.

[siddus74]

Yeah, I agree that uncontrollable power should be reserved for defined competitive classes and competitive chassis .... it wouldnt bother me either way if the clubman was resticted to silver cans. Just to touch apon the F1's my 6 wheeler has a Tamiya ESC and a Torque tuned with standard gearing and is plenty fast enough, however the standard gearing of the F104 does make them a fast class ... the BRCA for the class is 21.5 brushless which is what my pro has in it ...

I am only going to run the Tyrell now with the brushed set up in the clubman but am looking to have some fun with my TT01 with 27T brushed and the FF03 with 13T brushless to bring it back inline with what other are running, for me thats where the fun is ...

Scott

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[cunawarit]

Nice Mustang shell! 65 or 66? Got a pic of the grill? :)

As for the motor restriction I'd be against a restriction as long as we have mixed cars on the field, maybe something like silvercans for F1s and any sealed can for tourers to keep speeds close. Ideally though, no restriction for me, just people being sensible :)

[Dave Dodd]

The f1's are good to watch but are quicker in their std race trim.
The clubman class is aimed at mild motored cars, for newbies and the experienced driver.
I would like to keep the rules simple and down to the drivers of the class.

[cunawarit]

The f1's are good to watch but are quicker in their std race trim.

They certainly are! I enjoyed having two heats and being able to watch that 6 wheeler go round. AWESOME!

The clubman class is aimed at mild motored cars, for newbies and the experienced driver.
I would like to keep the rules simple and down to the drivers of the class.

Perfect! :thumbsup:

[reg]

I think the problem comes from difference in corner speed and driver skill,
Look at the GT12 all running the same motor battery and blinky,but its the most door banger class we have,

I think like Dave says its up to the drivers to make the class work

[Chris56]

Tamiya tourers have a limit as to what motor they can run anyway due to their construction. Id rather see this class governed by common sense rather than rules/regulations, ie if your car is not "moderately paced" then it either doesn't run or needs detuning in some way. On the straight line speed front, my ff01 has a 13t brushless (£50 combo) and is as quick as a silver can F1 in a straight line.

[The Doctor]

But I propose that we all agree that the main thing Clubman stands for is gentlemanly behaviour and driving standards.

So how about points for "Overtaking etiquette", for example allowing sufficient space between you and the slower driver, or "Planning ahead" by leaving a nice 2-second gap to the car in front? Penalties for tailgating and cutting up other drivers? Maybe you could race in pairs with one walking ahead of the car holding a red flag, and book in with gentlemanly names like "Sir Power" and "Baron Petch the 3rd"?
:thumbsup:

Only problem is that if Clubman is about good driving standards then half of you lot should be barred! Especially Chris "The Petch" Petch.... :woot:

[Chris56]

Only problem is that if Clubman is about good driving standards then half of you lot should be barred! Especially Chris "The Petch" Petch.... :woot:

Charming! I only tailgate cars that car smaller than mine, just like in real life:lol:

[cunawarit]

book in with gentlemanly names like "Sir Power" and "Baron Petch the 3rd"?
:thumbsup:

Deal!

[Chris56]

book in with gentlemanly names like "Sir Power" and "Baron Petch the 3rd"

So who were the 2 other Baron Petches?

[Chris56]

So who were the 2 other Baron Petches?

Its now done - see this week's pre-booking list

[The Doctor]

I am expecting the appropriate attire to go with the title. :thumbsup:

I've pre-booked for Off-Road at the moment but may switch to the Jag if I can find my cigars and sheepskin coat in time for Friday evening.

[cunawarit]

if I can find my cigars and sheepskin coat in time for Friday evening.

My humidor is always open for a fellow gentleman racer.

PS: And if you think that's a euphemism shame on you!

[cunawarit]

I'm down as The Rt Hon Earl "Slowchops" Power.

[Chris56]

Perhaps I should turn up on friday wearing my Tweed jacket. Normally I just wear this for work (im a Lecturer afterall!!!!) but could wear it at the club along with my straw hat.

[leedolby77]

Perhaps I should turn up on friday wearing my Tweed jacket. Normally I just wear this for work (im a Lecturer afterall!!!!) but could wear it at the club along with my straw hat.

Does this mean that you will be coming as a scarecrow? :p

[cunawarit]

I think he meant more Panama hat than comedy style farmer's hat.

[Chris56]

Does this mean that you will be coming as a scarecrow? :p

If Im coming as a scarecrow I would have pre-booked as Wurzal Gummage!

[cunawarit]

The Stig has booked in. Mmmmm.... Is that Lord Stig?

[Dave Dodd]

The Stig has booked in. Mmmmm.... Is that Lord Stig?

Thankfully I know who this is, despite their partly new email address :lol:

[Chris56]

Thankfully I know who this is, despite their partly new email address :lol:


Perhaps you could gentrify the name of everybody who pre-books for Clubman this week?

Lord Foggy
Sir Christopher "the great" Gresham
Dr Nutten

[cunawarit]

I'm actually Dr Power... But doesn't exactly sound gentlemanly. Perfect if I decide to become a super villain though.

[Chris56]

I'm actually Dr Power... But doesn't exactly sound gentlemanly. Perfect if I decide to become a super villain though.

Especially if you changed your first name to "Max"

[leedolby77]

I actually did hear that it was the Stigs fatter little brother.......

[Chris56]

.......some say that his daily drive is a Holiday Buggy..............

[leedolby77]

59745

I have been informed that the Stig will not be racing on Friday. He took a size reducing pill so he could fit in the F103 and I didn't quite work! And yes he lost his race suit, gloves and boots in the process! :blush:

[siddus74]

Cobbled together the old M05 .. brushed silver can (25T) hopefully beat the only other mini in the class at the moment!!!!!! :lol:

A bit battered and split, but def in the spirit of things ... so glad to have a chance to run the old tamiya stuff .. good job West Bridgeford ....;)

Scott.

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[cunawarit]

If you need a motor with a tiny bit more poke I have a old beater 21T you can borrow :)

[siddus74]

Thanks bud, but im sure the 25 will be ok .;)

Scott

[cunawarit]

heh, no worries. I rate your driving skills, I wouldn't be shocked if you beat my 4WD.

FWIW, I think Peter who runs the other Mini is running a rebuildable 27T.

[Chris56]

FWIW, I think Peter who runs the other Mini is running a rebuildable 27T.

Either that or a black can.

[Robbiejuk]

Pete will be running an f103gt and Tao3 from now on.

[cunawarit]

TA03! That's very cool :) Nice to see another tourer.

Shame to see the Minis going though :(

[siddus74]

I have a super wrecked well old and knackered TA03F drifter ... worth digging out?

Scott

[cunawarit]

I can't see why not :) My TL01 started as a knackered drifter.

[Dave Dodd]

I don't think the mini's will be gone forever besides the M06 would still be competitive in the clubman class.

the class brings a great variety of vehicles and its great to watch :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

Hell yes! For me its FF01 this week the TA02 next week. Maybe Manta Ray for the saturday series to take on the XB4 folk

[The Doctor]

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A few comments:

1. Nice workbench, although too much sticky tape for my liking.
2. Where on earth did you get the table cover?
3. Is the tissue there ready for when you've finished looking at the Gardener's World website (or whatever page that is)? Actually, don't answer that.

[cunawarit]

It certainly is great to watch, I loved marshalling the F1s and seeing that 6 wheeler go round.

You are right about the M06, last year the top M06 was practically a rocket.

PS: Constructive as usual Paul.

[cunawarit]

Hell yes! For me its FF01 this week the TA02 next week. Maybe Manta Ray for the saturday series to take on the XB4 folk

There's no reason why you couldn't run the Manta Ray in Clubman, right?

PS: Manta ray vs. Traxxas Bandit both with silvercans??? :D

[The Doctor]

PS: Constructive as usual Paul.


Why thank you Sir Power.

In addition, I can now confirm to my learned lords that I shall be driving my Jaguar tomorrow evening and have registered my entry in the racing category for Club men. :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

There's no reason why you couldn't run the Manta Ray in Clubman, right?

PS: Manta ray vs. Traxxas Bandit both with silvercans??? :D

I don't see why not, if i can get hold of a cheap std servo I might even use the old rheostat speedo:thumbsup:

[Dave Dodd]

Why thank you Sir Power.

In addition, I can now confirm to my learned lords that I shall be driving my Jaguar tomorrow evening and have registered my entry in the racing category for Club men. :thumbsup:

:lol: shall i withdraw your off road entry, Sir

[cunawarit]

I don't see why not, if i can get hold of a cheap std servo I might even use the old rheostat speedo:thumbsup:

LOL! I probably have the old three step speedo for the Traxxas somewhere. ;)

Seriously, the Bandit is half dismantled! (reused servo, hexes and some rod ends!) Will try to get it together! Take your FF01 in case I can't though...

PS: On second thought, I am not sure that firstly I want to soil the vintage Tamiya class with merely an old Traxxas, secondly... If the weighty (As dave put it, more lead than a fishing tackle shop) Traxxas were to hit a Tamiya... DISASTER! No more Tamiya.

PPS: Sod it, will take it in no matter what state it is at :)

[The Doctor]

:lol: shall i withdraw your off road entry, Sir

Er, yes please Dave, I wasn't sure what to do about that on the pre-booking page. Thanks!

Normal off-road service will be resumed next week.

[siddus74]

Running the old Tamiya off roaders in the clubman eh? Sweet! I guess the manta ray isnt that far removed from the holiday buggies ...;)

Original thunder shot?

Not as pretty now ive used it!!!!! :drool:

Scott

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[cunawarit]

That's a thing of beauty!

The off road Tamiya from back in the day that I always wanted was a Dyna Storm.

[Chris56]

That's a thing of beauty!

The off road Tamiya from back in the day that I always wanted was a Dyna Storm.

That is one cool car collection you have Scott - im a bit jealous!

We all seem to have a common passion for Vintage Tamiyas - how about we make it a weekly thing to agree what we are racing each week (inc motor) - that way we can have real good close racing:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I can also provide us with top hats:lol:

[cunawarit]

We all seem to have a common passion for Vintage Tamiyas - how about we make it a weekly thing to agree what we are racing each week (inc motor) - that way we can have real good close racing:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I don't exactly have a "collection", just 2 TL01s, one which is my son's, has huge scaler tyres and a Land Rover body and is currently a pile of parts... also an 80 turn motor!

PS: Perhaps longer we should agree on motor rules so that the racing is as close as possible no matter what we choose to drive, something simple that we can all agree on.

[Chris56]

just 2 TL01s, one which is my son's, has huge scaler tyres and a Land Rover body and is currently a pile of parts... also an 80 turn motor!



Now a jacked up TL01 on off road tyres with a Land Rover body - that I want to see

[Chris56]

PS: Perhaps longer we should agree on motor rules so that the racing is as close as possible no matter what we choose to drive, something simple that we can all agree on.

Not a bad idea - say for touring cars min 13t brushless/any brushed, and silver can/21t brushless blinky for direct drive cars

[cunawarit]

Now a jacked up TL01 on off road tyres with a Land Rover body - that I want to see

Will post pics when it is done :)

FWIW, Charlie also has a jacked up TL01 with a Land Rover body. Same Kamtec body and all!

[Chris56]

Might do that to my TA02 - RCGeeks do some good SUV shells

[siddus74]

Got today and monday off .. im going to get the TA03F out and try and rebuild it ....

Scott.

[cunawarit]

Not a bad idea - say for touring cars min 13t brushless/any brushed, and silver can/21t brushless blinky for direct drive cars

Not a bad suggestion :) Let's see how things develop.

Got today and monday off .. im going to get the TA03F out and try and rebuild it ....

cool :) Can't wait to see how it does with the motor way up front. Tempted to run it as a drifter? ;)

[siddus74]

I guess it s not really about restrictions but the want of the drivers in the class to have it all on an even keel ... at the end of the day I wouldnt want to win because I have a faster car ... its a hallow victory :lol:

Scott.

[cunawarit]

It is difficult to have it all at an even keel when the cars are so different. Maybe there's a price to pay for having everyone run whatever vintage car they please.

The F1s are as quick as the 13.5T TCs round the track. They are as quick because they get through the infield faster, not because they accelerate as hard or get to similar top speeds as the super powerful TCs. If we want an even field it would mean either slowing down the F1s, or speeding up the tourers to be as quick as 13.5T TCs.

Which then begs the obvious question, why not run the TC clubmans as 13.5T TCs if they are basically the same.

Secondly, is it fair to slow down the F1s when they really aren't all that fast down the straights? You could ban foams, which would slow things down. But the F1s look like lightweight twitchy things, I'm not sure they would be much fun on rubber tyres. I guess you guys who drive F1s can answer that :)

Lastly, I don't think it is good to equalize the overall lap times by making some cars way quicker down the straight than others. I'm no expert but I think that's probably conducive to high speed accidents which is ultimately what breaks cars.

A long post to basically say that I'm all for trying to make things as equal as possible whilst always keeping in mind that some differences between different classes are not easy to overcome... And perhaps cannot be overcome without doing something that actually spoils the fun.

[The Doctor]

Isn't Clubman about just running what you have without getting it smashed to bits? I like the fact I can just bring along the F1 / Group C / Blitzer Beetle and run them as they are. If we start having rules for motor types etc it will defeat the object in my view. It's great to have an "open" class aswell for new starters to join.

When I was a kid, my all-time Tamiya off-road desire was the Monster Beetle, which I've now had and sold. The Boomerang was a close 2nd, but not had one of those yet.

[reg]

I think Paul is right,
But if they are classics,original or rerelease,should they not just have the cheep Tamiya speedo and all run a silver-can?

[cunawarit]

I think some people view it as a run what ya brung class and others as a speed restricted class.

[siddus74]

Run what you brung for me ....

5 hours in the TA03F lives again!!! (front ball diff is knackered and I have no idea what its going to handle like):cry:

Home made wing and chinky body ...

Scott.

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[Chris56]

Splendid night's racing chaps - had a tremendous time tonight.

[siddus74]

Me too .... FF03 and TT01 next week ....

Scott.

[siddus74]

I'm glad that you mentioned the word open, which means a Mini can run with an F1, faster cars and more experienced drivers should bare this in mind if they choose to run in this class - it was shame to hear cussing during a clubman class last night due to the slower minis, we get frustrated I get that...

If you have a faster car wait for the best time and over take nicely ( which was the case most of the time) minis are good in the infield and after all it is a race ... Where appropriate the slower cars should yield on the fast straights and sweeping fast corners, but to expect them to just move over is not in the spirit of things and cussing wont help ...

That a side wicked time last night.

Must take a look at that Castrol LeMans so I can convert my F104W :-)

Scott

[Dave Dodd]

Please remember the following:
Max motor: 13t if using sensorless
f1's to use silvercans
If the gearbox can't take it, don't use it. :lol::lol:

[siddus74]

Guy, what toe settings are you using on your TL01? may try and make some adjustable steering arms for my tt01 as it was wandreing on the straight ...

Cheers

Mustang Sally...

[Dave Dodd]

I'm glad that you mentioned the word open, which means a Mini can run with an F1, faster cars and more experienced drivers should bare this in mind if they choose to run in this class - it was shame to hear cussing during a clubman class last night due to the slower minis, we get frustrated I get that...

If you have a faster car wait for the best time and over take nicely ( which was the case most of the time) minis are good in the infield and after all it is a race ... Where appropriate the slower cars should yield on the fast straights and sweeping fast corners, but to expect them to just move over is not in the spirit of things and cussing wont help ...

That a side wicked time last night.

Must take a look at that Castrol LeMans so I can convert my F104W :-)

Scott

totally agree :D

we all have to start somewhere.

[cunawarit]

I'm glad that you mentioned the word open, which means a Mini can run with an F1, faster cars and more experienced drivers should bare this in mind if they choose to run in this class - it was shame to hear cussing during a clubman class last night due to the slower minis, we get frustrated I get that...

If you have a faster car wait for the best time and over take nicely ( which was the case most of the time) minis are good in the infield and after all it is a race ... Where appropriate the slower cars should yield on the fast straights and sweeping fast corners, but to expect them to just move over is not in the spirit of things and cussing wont help ...

That a side wicked time last night.

Must take a look at that Castrol LeMans so I can convert my F104W :-)

Scott

I saw it differently, the newbee's Mini was much better driven this time. He's learning at an accelerated pace! It is always difficult overtaking a newbee safely hence the occasional "MINI!". As for the other Minis no issue, specially your Mini, it was setting the track on fire!

Awesome racing!!! Enjoyed having two cars and drivers lapping pretty much at my same speed :) Thanks for the close racing Chris and Scott! And Chris if we agreed to race one another for the last three laps we could get one more lap in ;) As soon as we start pushing each other we start crashing.

And I agree nobody should expect a car that's ahead to move over... If they are a lap behind though, that's a different matter. And my own frustration stemmed from my mistaken belief that I could overtake the slower of the Minis at full speed, this cracked my shell, sent my electronics flying and cause an ESC wire to break and my car to lose power intermittently... :-/ No excuses, I'm still new at this myself and not I know to slow down, get safely beside the newer drivers before fully committing to get past them. My own mistake.

[cunawarit]

Guy, what toe settings are you using on your TL01? may try and make some adjustable steering arms for my tt01 as it was wandreing on the straight ...

Cheers

Mustang Sally...

I'm using the hop-up carriers at the back (more toe in) and pretty much neutral at the front... slight tow out at full droop and slight toe in at full compression... roughly neutral at rest :)

[cunawarit]

Please remember the following:
Max motor: 13t if using sensorless
f1's to use silvercans
If the gearbox can't take it, don't use it. :lol::lol:

And 17.5 if sensored?

[Robbiejuk]

I reckon you should only be allowed to run these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/370510068134?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95

That will limit what motors you can use :)

[cunawarit]

WOW! That looks fancy compared to what I am using. Plain box and all it says is "ESC Made in China"

[Chris56]

WOW! That looks fancy compared to what I am using. Plain box and all it says is "ESC Made in China"

Yet, until last night anyway, it was handling your 15t no probs.

Agree with your comments about slower newbies - wasn't part of the reason for setting up this class to encourage new members? As Scott said, he is coming on leaps and bounds and we need to encourage him.
I will own up to making contact when impatiently overtaking at speed, but stopped crashing into him when I started being patient. Just get behind/alongside, match your pace to his, then hammer the throttle when safe to do so.

Loved the close racing last night between Gui's tourer, Scott's mini and the Shamcar - lets have more of it:thumbsup:

[Chris56]

If the gearbox can't take it, don't use it. :lol::lol:

As proven last night, the gearbox will take a 13t, its the idiod building it thats the problem:lol:

[Dave Dodd]

I reckon you should only be allowed to run these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/370510068134?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95

That will limit what motors you can use :)

not a bad idea.

[Chris56]

On another note, new shell for the Shamcar arrived today. Not too many bad spelling mistakes, but there is a banner across the windscreen that says "Great Prik series", its like that shell was made just for me:lol::lol:

[Dave Dodd]

On another note, new shell for the Shamcar arrived today. Not too many bad spelling mistakes, but there is a banner across the windscreen that says "Great Prik series", its like that shell was made just for me:lol::lol:

Lmfao... Hahahaha...

[Chris56]

Cheers Dave, there's also a mistake in the drivers' name printed in the rear window. Not "Loed", not "Blook", any ideas what it may be?

[cunawarit]

Robface Kubixka?

[Dave Dodd]

Myheel shoemaker

[Chris56]

Myheel shoemaker

Think much closer to home

[cunawarit]

Loved the close racing last night between Gui's tourer, Scott's mini and the Shamcar - lets have more of it:thumbsup:

:blush: I should be ashamed, 4WD and can only keep up with the FFs...

.......

Dario Francetti?

[cunawarit]

Kolin Macrey?

[Chris56]

Even closer my friend. Only the surname is printed but I believe he answers to the title "Earl Slowchops":p

[cunawarit]

Jayson Blato?

[Chris56]

see previous comment;)

[cunawarit]

Burns? Burrns? Borns?

[Chris56]

First name: Gui

[cunawarit]

Now I'm confused... someone in China has replicated my Mondeo in lexan? :eh?:

[cunawarit]

Wilks

[Chris56]

Now I'm confused... someone in China has replicated my Mondeo in lexan? :eh?:

And painted it blue

[cunawarit]

Hoy? Spelled Hoi?

[Dave Dodd]

wollsten ?

wolfstein

[siddus74]

Sham Car shells rock! I have transplanted the Aodi to the TT01 :lol:

The TT01 was better behaved than the TA03F ... (benched to the back of the workshop!)

Cut the TT01 arms and put some 2mm threaded in between the two halves so I have slight toe in ...

Raped the Helicopter for an S3050 digi for the steering and put softer springs on the back (thanks for the advice there Guy)

And the cussing did not originate from you lot ...

Scott ...

[Chris56]

Teasers for the latest Shamshell:

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/random/IMG_4360_zps3fd4b695.jpg


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Photos of the shell in full when the Shamcar is revamped

[cunawarit]

Google is your friend :)

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/29/7y9e7a5y.jpg

Sorry couldn't help it, was curious :)

Looks good!

I think I'll be sticking with Toyota for now... :) Grown to love the AE86 look.

[cunawarit]

Cut the TT01 arms and put some 2mm threaded in between the two halves so I have slight toe in ...

You can get a part that gives you more toe in... But I guess that is less fun ;)

[Chris56]

Doh - didn't really keep in much of a secret did I??? Quite handily, it also came with 2 adjustable rear wings.

Scott- when I had my TT01 I fitted the adjustable steering turnbuckles, got them from GeeDees

[cunawarit]

Local Tamiya parts! Cool great tip Chris :)

[Chris56]

No probs, also well done on getting 100 replies on this thread you started:thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

lol, thanks. But not too difficult when I easily make up 50% of the replies ;)

[Chris56]

and me the other!

[The Doctor]

So are you booking in as Chris "Great Prik" Petch this week sir? :lol:

[Chris56]

So are you booking in as Chris "Great Prik" Petch this week sir? :lol:

Only if I can have a car built:mad:

[msmith105e]

so ..... after my past few weeks racing buggys being somewhat disasterous i have decided to try to inject some fun into my friday nights and as from next friday i shall be racing my TL01 in the clubman class. i will be using a 17t brushed motor but geared right down with a 19t pinion so as not to gain any advantage on the streight. im looking forward to participating in some gentelmanly racing without getting my my knickers in a twist like i did this week :( sorry chaps the red mist seemed to be with me all night :thumbdown:

[Chris56]

Nice one mate! Gui is running his TL01 with a 15t so I would just run the same gearing as him.

I think I might race my TA02 - whilst the Shamta Ray did provide some entertainment for people, it was a little lonely at the back:(

Should be running 13t brushless with 20t pinion so hoping for some good wheel-wheel racing between the 3 of us :thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

FWIW I am not sure that I will keep on running the TL01 with the 15T. Might go back to the Ansmann motor.

The 15T has caused a number of overheating speedo issues that have me worried for the long term health of the speedo... :( If I run the car slowly for too long it shuts itself down.

PS: If I can figure out how to mount a fan in there somewhere (the electronics are all packed inside the chassis) I may go that route.

PPS: FWIW I am running standard gears (no speed kit) and a 21T pinion with the HPI motor. With the 21T I did run speed tuned gears.

[siddus74]

Hope you lads had a good time this friday, couldn't make it this week ... Got an old 19t double for my tt01 now as the silver can was getting left behind ... Hope to be down with you all this coming friday for some Tamiya tourer fun .... Wil aim to give the ff03 a point around the carpet as well ... God I love the old Tamiya ...


When are we running the holiday buggies or better still the lunch boxes?

Scott

[cunawarit]

I haven't got an old Tamiya buggy. But do have an old Traxxas... be warned though, it isn't that slow :)

[siddus74]

Stubo and I are having a Sivlercan 27T M06 shoot out hopefully this Friday ... Im the VW and him being the RS Carrera ... :p

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Scott

[Dave Dodd]

Brilliant, love the beetle. :)

[cunawarit]

Too nice ;) Another car to worry about not damaging :thumbsup:

[siddus74]

I guess with a silver can I risk major damage ... may bring something a little faster I think


Scott.

[cunawarit]

HPI Firebolt! :) Bout 7 quid, run one in mine and I keep up with Chris' 13T sensorless.

[Chris56]

When I ran my 13T in the mini, it was about on par with the black can (23t?).

This friday I will be running 27t in the Shamta Ray and 13T brushless in Shergar

[siddus74]

The FF03 has a 13T installed and the 6 wheeler is fast enough ... maybe bring those instead ... ;)

Scott.

[Chris56]

Bring em all mate - especially your Thundershot:D

[cunawarit]

The FF03 will be an interesting comparo against the TA02 and TL01.

[siddus74]

Hmm, Lunchbox? love to run it ... has a larger wheelie bar fitted .. but people may get frustrated I feel ... :o

Scott - Tamiya Freak

[cunawarit]

Hmm, Lunchbox? love to run it ... has a larger wheelie bar fitted .. but people may get frustrated I feel ... :o

Scott - Tamiya Freak

I think people will excuse a Lunchbox :)

Not a Tamiya, but I've wanted one of these for ages :) Clubman material? :D
http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/grave_zps6a200c60.png

[Chris56]

I was wondering when a Lunchbox will make an appearance - defo clubman material!.

Does anybody here own a Grasshopper/Hornet/Frog? - would love to see one of those running

[siddus74]

Hmmm, are you sure people would not get uptight about it?

Scott.

[Chris56]

You didn't see the heap of junk I was running last week mate!

[cunawarit]

You didn't see the heap of junk I was running last week mate!

He makes a good point!

It needed help from marshals on tight turns as it didn't have enough steering lock!

[Chris56]

It needed help from marshals on tight turns as it didn't have enough steering lock!

yes yes, that problem should be sorted. There was a flange behind the gearbox I was meant to cut out - thats what you get for not reading instructions:lol:

On a plus note, it ran well on the faster sections:thumbsup:

[cunawarit]

It had plenty of acceleration, that's for sure.

[siddus74]

What was it you ran? lol

Scott.

[Chris56]

It was a Shamta Ray.

Basically an FF01 but with Manta Ray chassis, body, wishbones and buggy tyres.

If you have a look in the "FF01 meets Manta Ray" thread there are a couple of photos.

Will be running it again this friday

[Dave Dodd]

Might be an idea to discuss it with other clubman drivers :)
Some of the cars are a little more delicate than others.

[cunawarit]

That's a good point, the TL01 is surviving Clubman. But I stopped racing it with modern touring cars as it would break each and every time it came into contact with one.

[siddus74]

That's a good point, the TL01 is surviving Clubman. But I stopped racing it with modern touring cars as it would break each and every time it came into contact with one.

LOL!

[siddus74]

I have a Mardave Mini with a silver can? (just needs radio)

Scott.

[cunawarit]

Yeah, remember those. My coz had one, a fibreglass rectangle with wheels. No suspension, no diff... Perfect!!! :woot:

[Chris56]

I wouldn't mind getting my mitts on this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Tamiya-b2b-racing-side-car-58017-radio-controled-car-spares-or-repair-/380773795103?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item58a7e3051f

[cunawarit]

I'm starting to get the sense that this could turn into a my car is crappier than yours competition.

I do like that though! Mardave made 3 wheelers too. They can't be much slower round the track than the FWD buggy was ;)

[Chris56]

I do like that though! Mardave made 3 wheelers too. They can't be much slower round the track than the FWD buggy was ;)

I saw one going around Ardent once. They also look really cool with a Caterham shell.

Don't judge the Shamta Ray until I've had chance to test the new steering, its just doing the opposite of what the TL01 did :p:p

[The Doctor]

Chris, when I looked last Friday, the Shamta Ray was a 3-wheeler... :p

Honestly I think "Shambles" is becoming too generous though. Captain Chaos more like (have you booked in for this week yet...:woot:??)

[Chris56]

Chris, when I looked last Friday, the Shamta Ray was a 3-wheeler... :p


hmm it was less of a problem when I ditched the SCT whells in favour of some ballistic greens. The car does have a lack of droop but I can't give it any more without using softer springs, which I don't want to do because the back end is quite grippy.

I have already pre-booked but under my real name. If I can't get the car to work this week then I have to become "Captain Chaos". Here is an image of said guy - he does look a bit like Dave though:

http://spiraken.podbean.com/mf/web/dy8e7/mpChaos.jpg

[cunawarit]

Don't judge the Shamta Ray until I've had chance to test the new steering, its just doing the opposite of what the TL01 did :p:p

Haha... yeah, that used to turn by itself everywhere ;)

PS: I like the Captain Chaos outfit, wearing it?

[siddus74]

Just done a really quick paint job on the Mardave Mini body... Call mew mr runny :-( and robbed my bestest servo from my buggy ... So the Mardave is on the cards.

Trued the foam donuts down to size as well.

No diff, no suspension no bother.

Ill post a picture tomorrow night.

Even with a silver can it is near 30mph!

Scott

[cunawarit]

Even with a silver can it is near 30mph!

Impressive, I wouldn't be too shocked if you beat us all.

[Chris56]

Can't wait to see this. Are you running 2s or 1s?

[siddus74]

2S 27T Brushed ..

Have a bit of fun with it I say ... Lunchbox Yellow Mardave for Friday at Westbridgeford :D

Notice the "Euro Style rims" on picture no.3 lol

Scott.

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[cunawarit]

As per Facebook, it looks great :) I can't wait to see how fast it goes.

[The Doctor]

Oh yes I am liking that!

[Dave Dodd]

does look good :D

[siddus74]

Done some maintenance on the 6 wheeler - new Deans connector, de-fuzz and lube the bearings and motor but more importantly - Operation "Hi Vis" before I completely wreck the body ....:cry:

Im feeling the Mardave and 6 wheeler Friday now .. :eh?:

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Scott.

[cunawarit]

Bright neon colours FTW. That's why so many RC colour schemes look like they were designed by Mr Motivator ;)

[siddus74]

Bright neon colours FTW. That's why so many RC colour schemes look like they were designed by Mr Motivator ;)

I say no to racing in spandex ... :woot:

Scott.

[cunawarit]

I fully agree!!!

Since we are posting pics of changes to cars, I got rid of the extra large bumpers and made a couple of changes to try and get rid of a little understeer...

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/2013-11-21090555-1_zps4497a269.jpg

PS: I know it is only a lowly TL01... But to my eyes it is a thing of beauty :wub

[siddus74]

It looks "ultra clean" and very well kept ...:wub

Disc wheels on a Tamiya though? Premounts are cheaper though :(

What compound are they?

Scott.

[cunawarit]

I'm a little obsessive compulsive when it comes to cleaning RCs after use. :blush:

yeah, dished wheels with Sorex 28s. It isn't scale, or Tamiya cool. But performs well :) I could paint the wheels silver and pretend they are Moon Discs ;)

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u429/gpowerf/1_zps763d9db6.jpg

I'd need a suitable shell though.... :lol:

[siddus74]

I have an old NAS Car body some where!!! lol

Scott.

[cunawarit]

NASCAR + Moon Eyes... hehe :) Land speed NASCAR! :D

I need 3S + Castle ;)

[siddus74]

Pictured on the TA03F ...

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[cunawarit]

Chevy :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

Nah, this is a Chevy:

went to Snetterton on sunday and found this beauty!

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/Snetterton/IMG_4406_zpsd05fdcbf.jpg

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[cunawarit]

67 Camaro, good choice :)

[Chris56]

They also had this Mustang. Running up tyo 1800 hp and still street legal!!

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/Snetterton/IMG_4408_zps8c027f24.jpg
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[cunawarit]

I'd still take the Camaro :)

[Chris56]

Well that also has a tax disc ;)

[cunawarit]

Perfectly usable daily driver ;)

[siddus74]

looks so so cool ... must get more overtime, must get more overtime ...

:thumbsup:

http://www.tamiya.com/english////products/58571porsche911_carrera_rsr/top.jpg

[cunawarit]

Are we talking 1:1 replica of that or the Tamiya kit? :D

[siddus74]

Both .. but i'll settle for the Tamiya ... been busy scrounging RC flying stuff from around the workshop to try and generate som funds ... im getting there now ...

;)

[cunawarit]

Cool car for Clubman: Yokomo YRS Roadster

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/YokomoYRSRoadster-1.jpg

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/YokomoYRSRoadster-2.jpg

[Chris56]

Looks interesting, wonder what the price will be. Looking at the chassis I think its 1s only.

[Dave Dodd]

Does look good 😃

[cunawarit]

It is a 1/12 sclale, so perhaps it is very light hence the 1S... Either that or a shorty, it is RTR so it could come with a 2S shorty.

[The Doctor]

I like that - although I do thing it should run a motor with way too much power to get the proper "steer from the rear" effect. :thumbsup:

[siddus74]

What are the clubman boys planning to run this Friday? .. Just installed a Silvercan etc in the F104 Pro and put a better steering servo in the Holiday buggy, so thats me taken car of for Friday ...:p

Scott.

[cunawarit]

The usual for me.

[Chris56]

TA01 with 13T brushless and FF01 with 27T brushed for me

[Chris56]

TA01 with 13T brushless and FF01 with 27T brushed for me. No Shamta Ray:thumbdown:

[Chris56]

How did that happen?

[cunawarit]

All you and your multiple Clubman rides, I'm going to have to get something other than a TL01 :)

[Chris56]

Im slowly building a collection - TA01, FF01, soon to restore a Manta Ray. Quite tempted with a TB02 next

[cunawarit]

Not tempted to go modern? TB04 or TT02?

[Chris56]

Sort of tempted but I want to keep my costs down. From what I've read though the TB03 is meant to handle like a dream.

[cunawarit]

Apparently so does the TT02: http://www.thercracer.com/2013/06/tt02-initial-race-report.html

[siddus74]

Good to here .. the slow boat from china hasnt arrived with mine yet ....

:thumbdown:

Scott

[siddus74]

Anybody want a Pulse 2.4 ghz RX for £10? Bought new, never run but cracked the case due to wicked strength tape so could not return it.

Can bring tomorrow ...

Scott.

[cunawarit]

What body did you go for? Any upgrades?

[Chris56]

Anybody want a Pulse 2.4 ghz RX for £10? Bought new, never run but cracked the case due to wicked strength tape so could not return it.

Can bring tomorrow ...

Scott.

Dibs:D

[siddus74]

Chris, sorted out My Thundershot (body strip and repaint and electrics) .... when will yours be sorted?

Found the original Body for my FF03, cleaned up nice - may run it this week :-)

Scott.

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[Chris56]

It certainly will - can't decide on Hornet or Manta Ray. Out of interest, how did you strip the body? I would like to repaint the Hornet before I sell it

[siddus74]

Sell the Hornet? Haven't you just got it? The only reason it was easy to strip is due the previous painter having used the incorrect paint and it had already started to flake.

I may bring the Thundershot down this Friday for a run .... it has a brushed system installed with mid range gearing and a 19t Double ... gives it real zip but not massive top end ...

What are you guys planning to run this week?

Scott

[cunawarit]

He's doing it as a side business, a way of testing out a whole bunch of old RC cars without forking out a whole lot of money. :) I like the idea.

BTW, feeling the itch to try off-road again...

[siddus74]

Are you guys bailing on the clubman for a while then?

Scott.

[Chris56]

Haha, not really a business but I am buying/selling old Tamiya's at the moment and would like to give each one at least one run. Problem is I risk getting too attached - already decided to keep the F1 I've just bought!

Definately sticking with clubman and im not going to jump sides, but I want to try running Hornet/Manta Ray in 2wd guise to see if they are suitable for stock buggy.

If I do run the stock buggy class it will be alongside clubman

[cunawarit]

Are you guys bailing on the clubman for a while then?

Scott.

Bailing is the wrong word, I may try the occasional off road race but Clubman will be my main class for the foreseeable future.

[siddus74]

Chris, good to hear ... let me know when your F1 is sorted... I've fitted the new front bumper for the 6 wheelers and taped the body :(

Silver with Tamiya esc of course.

Scott.

[Chris56]

Silver can already installed, just need some foams - I've seen some Zen ones on Ebay for £12/£14 inc wheels. Soft front, super soft rears. Shell is nasty so will either strip and repaint or get the Alfa Brabham shell.

How well do rubber tyres work by the way?

[siddus74]

They don't ....

[Chris56]

Foams it is then!

[cunawarit]

Cheater ;)

On a similar note I was amazed how grip the wet tyres give! Made my car a little twitchy but that's the way of the future for Clubman tourers. With the right setup the lil TL01 would be way quicker.

[siddus74]

I've done a little research and found out what compound the wets are .. I have some slicks of the same compound to try on the FF03 this week ... :thumbsup:

Scott.

[Chris56]

Just to confirm, I will race 2 cars this friday, both in clubman: TA02 and Manta Ray

The reasons for which only I know and nobody else will understand!

[siddus74]

FF03 and Thundershot for me then Chris ... lets have some pictures ... be good to race the Thundershot against the Manta Ray :thumbsup:

You got kit tyres on yours and what motor you hot installed?

Scott.

[Chris56]

I've only got 1 pair of kit tyres and they don't have enough tread. I will therefore be using Venoms front & rear. Haven't decided on motor but probably a 27T brushed.

Here are some photos - note the aluminium front shock tower:

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/IMG_4437_zpsc03066a3.jpg#http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p536/petchfamily/IMG_4435_zps38fa29e5.jpg
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[siddus74]

looking good .. venoms front and rear! Ill be on the back foot with the Tamiya rubber I have installed but it will be fun anyway :D

Scott.

[Chris56]

I don't know about being on the back foot - Venoms are pants without additive, which I won't be running. I could always install my F1 rubber tyres :lol:

[cunawarit]

I've pinched too many parts from my Bandit, but it would be nice to race with guys :) I still have my original mid 90s body for it somewhere.

[siddus74]

Get the bandit sorted ...:thumbsup:

When are you going to get the Mardave sorted? I may put the original mardave motor in it and run a 4cell Nim in mine ...

Scott.

[cunawarit]

The mardave is for after Xmass, giving it to myself as a gift. :D

[siddus74]

What power setup are you considering?

[cunawarit]

1S + the stock G2 motor and my usual cheap no name ESCs. Got a new fast servo for it too, was concerned that a slow servo + 1S would be way too lethargic.

PS: I've come up with a paintjob plan... I don't know if I'll pull it off. If it looks like cack well, I'll just pretend that I meant it to look like total cack as part of a Team Shambles thingy.

[The Doctor]

Chris, the co-ordination of your carpet and curtains (I think they're curtains..?) is almost as good as your bodyshell and wing!

[Dave Dodd]

Chris, the co-ordination of your carpet and curtains (I think they're curtains..?) is almost as good as your bodyshell and wing!

Haha, brilliant :thumbsup:

[Chris56]

I chuffin hate those curtains! They actually go quite well with the primrose coloured alls, and the walls go well with the pub carpet, but carpet and curtains:rolleyes:

When we re-decorated, we had a big dilema as we wanted to lighten up the hall way, but couldn't quite stretch to a new carpet and the pub carpet is in too mint condition to get rid of (Dave will vouch for me - he's walked down it!!!). Still it gives the house character - as to I :thumbsup:

[siddus74]

Discontuned find on ebay "HPI Mondeo body" arrived today so I rushed it through the paint shop :thumbsup:

We had an ST24 it got pinched ... loved that car :wub

Scott

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[Chris56]

Very nice, "Alan Menu" edition as well. Very nearly bought an ST220, nice cars

[Robbiejuk]

Very nearly bought an ST220, nice cars

You should have done, at least you can get bits for them :D

I am making my Clubman debut tonight :thumbsup:


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I hope that chinese company that Chris gets his body shells doesn't decide to a copy of this. I would hate to see the engrish translation of "Rapid Fit" :wtf:

[Chris56]

But 220 bhp wasn't enough!

What are you racing in clubman tonight?

[The Doctor]

Plenty through the front tyres in this weather. What you need is 4WD. Usable power all year round. :thumbsup:

[siddus74]

Good laugh this week lads ... good to be with the Tamiya touring boys :thumbsup:

Its 'me' for the foreseeable future I think. Also, good to stretch the legs on the Thundershot and iron out all the gremlins (binding steering servo for one and leaky rear shock - all sorted now)

TT02 being built as we speak :drool: as well ... Porsche RSR

... Laugh or what, I changed a steering servo out in my FF03 in a rush last night because it felt like it wasn't centring only to get home and realise the foam wheel had moved off the actual steering wheel hub and was binding up against the transmitter case, the centring spring was just not powerful enough against the friction of the foam to centre it the last 5-10 percent :thumbdown:

Moved back and super glued now thank you very much ...

Scott.

[200sx]

Oops!

I should've warned you about that feature of the DX3c. Happened to me once...

[Chris56]

It happened to me when I had a DX3e.

Other tip Scott: remove the foam and superglue your fingers to the wheel:thumbsup:

[reg]

I used(my daughters)hair spray to keep my wheel in place,
Also make sure the screw in the center hasn't gone tight,this happend to mine and thought it was the spring,I backed the screw off a the smallest amount and bingo,god as new :(