New to 1/8th, need info

[gainsy]

Hi guys
Looks like i am going to have a little foray into the 1/8th world with the new mugen mbx-7 eco m-spec & as i know zero about 1/8th i am after advise about the electrics & anything else you can think is relevant
What's hot & what's not when it comes to esc, motors, servo's & lipos?
Most of my running will be a Herts & Slough so any advice on tyres & inserts be it dirt or astro would be most appreciated, also what other tracks are around within around 50-100 miles of st albans?
Cheers in advance
Gainsy

[JonyNitro]

Electrics is down to choice, and BUDGET, so what is it and will throw you some links up.

[gainsy]

Would like to keep it around the 1k mark including the car which is 470ish

[JonyNitro]

Would like to keep it around the 1k mark including the car which is 470ish

Mm that's nice,haha

And. Can find a cheaper motor combo as well if you want that option:)
Motor
http://www.funshobby.com/index.php/product-149-TENSHOCK++6++POLE+1%3A8+BUGGY+X812+SENSOR+BRUSHLES S+MOTOR%28FREE+SHIPPING%29.html
Esc
http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php/electrics/speed-controllers/hobbywing/hw81020190-hobbywing-xerun-150a-sd-bl-esc-blue-1-8.html

So just starting out I would run 4s 14.8 Volts

S.M.C lipo's.
http://www.chubbiescarshack.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=249

Esc choice of two
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_223/products_id/248631/n/Viper-R-C-VTX8-Sensored-Brushless-ESC-w-EZ-Link
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_223/products_id/259460/n/Tekin-RX8-GEN2-1-8-Competition-Brushless-ESC

Motors choice of three
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_1359_2910_2912/products_id/265107/n/Viper-R-C-VF8-Competition-4-Pole-1-8th-Scale-Sensored-Brushless-Motor-1900kV
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_1359_2910_2912/products_id/211980/n/Thunder-Power-Z3R-8-1-8-Scale-Sensored-Brushless-Motor-1900Kv
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_1359_2910_2912/products_id/263925/n/Tekin-Redline-T8-GEN2-1-8th-Scale-Buggy-Competition-Brushless-Motor-1900kV
Or the 2050 Kv for big outdoor.
Servo this is nice
http://answer-rc.com/uk/en/1282-xpert-rc-si-4501-brushless-servo-1822kg-0090-sec-66v-alloy-outer-case-48-66v.html

[gainsy]

Many thanks for the info fella, much appreciated :) think i will go with the viper setup as used their 1/10th stuff before & loved it

[JonyNitro]

Many thanks for the info fella, much appreciated :) think i will go with the viper setup as used their 1/10th stuff before & loved it

Yep nice I have two Viper VTX8. I run 4s in one buggy and 6s on another set up for next year to see how that works out

[gainsy]

What car do you race?

[JonyNitro]

Race! Don't let Si Coe read this,haha I'm useless Serpent Cobra, and S-Workz

[gainsy]

haha I'm useless

Haha i probably won't be much better but it will be fun trying :) & for me that's what it's all about

[Pulse]

my suggestion if you race 1/8 e-buggy (I did for the last 3 years)

in 4s:

esc hobbywing xerun 120a sct (smaller, smoother, lighter, cheaper compared to the 150a which is NOT needed, plus the 120a is sensored)

motor tekin t8 1900kv or reedy 1800kv

lipos SMC is definitely a good choice, for cheaper you can get nanotechs and zippy compacts are good too (no need to go hardcase)

servo (you get what you pay for on these) I would say futaba brushless or ace ds1015, savox are cheap but in the long run...no and they often need an externa bec to work properly

radio/receiver sanwa 1st pick, kopropo or futaba 2nd pick, spektrum feels cheap and inaccurate compared to these 3

in 6s (higher voltage meaning a more efficient system and less heat)

rx8 gen2 esc
1400 tekin t8 motor

the eco is an excellent car, lots of steering compared to the 6, some had a tad too much play in the elements considering it's factory built so make sure to check the tightenings before you go on the track ;)

have fun!

[gainsy]

Thanks for the info pulse
Car wise it is between the xb9e & the mugen
Radio will be the sanwa, lipos i will probably go for the nano-techs as have some saddles already & they have been great, servo is between the ace or the xpert, esc wise it's between the tekin or the viper, depends where i can get the best deal from really, i prefer to use uk shops as i feel we need to support our guys over here, if i do go for the eco then it will get a full strip when i get it, not sure why they feel the need to build it for us as that takes away half the fun of getting a new kit

[Pulse]

Thanks for the info pulse
Car wise it is between the xb9e & the mugen
Radio will be the sanwa, lipos i will probably go for the nano-techs as have some saddles already & they have been great, servo is between the ace or the xpert, esc wise it's between the tekin or the viper, depends where i can get the best deal from really, i prefer to use uk shops as i feel we need to support our guys over here, if i do go for the eco then it will get a full strip when i get it, not sure why they feel the need to build it for us as that takes away half the fun of getting a new kit

mbx7 and xb9e have an opposite feel

mbx7 has a lot of steering and a nimble handling whereas the xb9e is planted and more forgiving

as I said on rctech I would choose the eco for clean and indoor tracks and the xb9e for rough or dusty tracks with holes/ bumps

it depends on your driving aswell, a smooth driver will love a lot of steering while an agressive driver will be faster with a forgiving car

in terms of quality the xray is great (I have it), even better than the Mugen even if the difference isn't major, to me an already built kit is a downside but it all depends on the drivers

for the radio the mt4 is a very good bang for the buck, m12 not much better than the m11x IMO

[gainsy]

Think it may have to be the xb9e as i need a forgiving car, will sit nicely next to my xb4 as well :) as you say xray is quality through & through
Will be sticks for me as have tried the wheel but it's not for me, exzes is a bit too pricey so the gemini will do me just fine
Have you found any weak spots on the xb9e? & what oils are you running in the diffs & shocks? i will be on dirt mostly with big jumps(well they are big to me compared to the 1/10th stuff i am used to)

[justleanitupabit]

also what other tracks are around within around 50-100 miles of st albans?
Cheers in advance
Gainsy

KMRC (Kent Model Rallycross Club) - is approximately 65 miles from St Albans, is a tremendous track (indeed was the best attended in the Southern Regional Series by some distance) with quite a large electric crowd already.

The website is poor so check it out on facebook instead.

Edit

I should add its at Linton just south of Maidstone.

[gainsy]

Thanks fella i will check it out :)

[MattPR8]

my suggestion if you race 1/8 e-buggy (I did for the last 3 years)

in 4s:

esc hobbywing xerun 120a sct (smaller, smoother, lighter, cheaper compared to the 150a which is NOT needed, plus the 120a is sensored)

motor tekin t8 1900kv or reedy 1800kv

lipos SMC is definitely a good choice, for cheaper you can get nanotechs and zippy compacts are good too (no need to go hardcase)

servo (you get what you pay for on these) I would say futaba brushless or ace ds1015, savox are cheap but in the long run...no and they often need an externa bec to work properly

radio/receiver sanwa 1st pick, kopropo or futaba 2nd pick, spektrum feels cheap and inaccurate compared to these 3

in 6s (higher voltage meaning a more efficient system and less heat)

rx8 gen2 esc
1400 tekin t8 motor

the eco is an excellent car, lots of steering compared to the 6, some had a tad too much play in the elements considering it's factory built so make sure to check the tightenings before you go on the track ;)

have fun!

Be sure to check with the clubs you wish to run at about the lipos. If they are BRCA affiliated then they should be running to BRCA rules and this states 4S max and hardcase.

[gainsy]

Be sure to check with the clubs you wish to run at about the lipos. If they are BRCA affiliated then they should be running to BRCA rules and this states 4S max and hardcase.

Thanks for the info, i wont be going over 4's & they will deffo be hardcased :)

[Bart_]

..also what other tracks are around within around 50-100 miles of st albans?
Cheers in advance
Gainsy

Hi,
Hertrs Nitro Model Club in ware, just arround the corner from you. We got full heat of electric buggys every club race. Final 15 minutes. Realy good fun.
http://www.hertsnitromodelclub.co.uk/

Westmill Farm
Ware
Hertfordshire
SG12 0ES

regards

Bart

[gainsy]

Cheers fella, yep herts will be my main venue for 2014, been on the fab astro track many times but the dirt track is something else, can't wait :)
What tyres would you recommend for both tracks?

[JonyNitro]

With the Release of the 2014 Xray, I would be looking at a Brushless platform like the S Workz

[Bart_]

Cheers fella, yep herts will be my main venue for 2014, been on the fab astro track many times but the dirt track is something else, can't wait :)
What tyres would you recommend for both tracks?

Astro schumacher minipins new for wet, bit worn on dry.

Dirt when dry something like beta vmax, aka impact in supersoft this time of year, when wet I like beta enforcer supersoft.

See you on track

[jimdaloo]

Cheers fella, yep herts will be my main venue for 2014, been on the fab astro track many times but the dirt track is something else, can't wait :)
What tyres would you recommend for both tracks?

I recommend beta tyres bud probably the cheapest around plus Nemo racing who distribute them are at nearly every meet and they work really well at herts

[gainsy]

Thanks guys :) the beta's had been recommended to me but thought i would check they worked at herts, see you on track soon ;)