if just one car, kf or sv2?

[Timee80]

Will be buying a new car soon for the regionals and only want to purchase one car.
Will the sv2 be the ideal choice for all surfaces and grip levels or should I just go for the kf and tune for low grip levels. Already had some people telling me sv2, but just want more opinions now that lots of people have had time with both cars now.

[gazhillAE]

KF
Nothing else to say
Maybe with a ball diff for wet

[bobbin]

both have pros and cons, KF works very well in the dry but can be tricky to set up for wet astro, so far the only guys i have seen getting it to work well in the wet are the team drivers.
not sure when the new SV2 comes out but if you can wait it might be worth it.

[Timee80]

From what I've heard the new sv2 will be the same but with black bits to keep in line with the rest of the cars in the line up. Might be worth waiting to see if prices drop soon and grab a bargain

[bobbin]

think it will come with a geared diff which will be good for high grip and low maintenance
From what I've heard the new sv2 will be the same but with black bits to keep in line with the rest of the cars in the line up. Might be worth waiting to see if prices drop soon and grab a bargain

[jonathan may]

get the kf

[buggy#0]

KF. I went faster with it in one day than I did after a whole year of my SV2.

[jrenton]

I had the same issue. KF was good on high grip and SV2 good on low. I fitted a ball diff to the KF and it is now much better on low grip so I am now going to sell my SV2 and stick with the KF.

[brooksy]

SV2 :thumbsup:

[Lee24h]

Sv2 as a kf is not quicker on one lap but easier to drive on high grip however a sv2 will work everywhere even storm valley if you can set it up right i brought a mid motor car rather than a foward motor car as its easier to work on and is rewarding when you beat foward motors on high grip

[Timee80]

I've obviously started something. My thinking is more towards the sv2 right now. The kf looks good and I have a k1 which would share some spares but I could load up on spares for the price difference anyway

[mark christopher]

those with kf will say kf, those with sv2 will say sv2, I have both and dry astro will use the kf, damp sv2, appreciate that's not much help but maybe a second hand one of each?

[gazhillAE]

I've got both how does that work ;0)
The sv2 jumps crap
The KF is nearly a lap quicker I reckon on high grip compared to the sv2
I prefer to drive the sv2
But I would still buy the kf

[Mossy]

The sv2 jumps crap
The KF is nearly a lap quicker I reckon on high grip compared to the sv2


Thats rubbish.

The KF is a great car and designed specifically for high bits tracks. There is obviously going to be a difference vs a car designed for all round conditions, but in testing in the dry i have found this to be around 0.5 - 0.7 a lap - hardly a whole lap?

The challenge comes to which is easier to drive for you. Which ever car you crash less with you will most probably do a quicker overall time, don't worry about individual lap times.

In damp greasy conditions at Kiddy on Sunday I ran the SV2, as I felt this was the conditions that best suited the cars I had. If it had been bone try and high grip I would of run the KF. - appreciate that may not be much help as Mark has said. Both cars are great in the right conditions and Im sure if we could rely on the great British weather to be kind all 'summer' you could happily go with the KF!

Oh and my SV2 seemed to jump pretty well last year, even in practice at the Worlds....

[Timee80]

Thanks Simon. Would I be right in thinking that the use able life of the rear tyres on the kf would be much shorter on the kf than the sv2, due to weight bias?

[Alan Reeves]

Can't comment on the kf but I had an sv2 for a season.
I could never get my sv2 to jump either, maybe something to do with the extra weight I had to run in it to get it round the track, not to mention the optional parts I had to buy.. Camber link plates, yokes, bla bla
I ended up with a £300 2wd which I could never push or drive hard, only tippy toe round, it was still fast but didn't suit my style, as a result I hardly went racing last year, I just didn't really want to drive it!
I also know someone who loved it so boils down to

Personal preference at the end of the day.

[PaulRotheram]

Thats rubbish.

The KF is a great car and designed specifically for high bits tracks. There is obviously going to be a difference vs a car designed for all round conditions, but in testing in the dry i have found this to be around 0.5 - 0.7 a lap - hardly a whole lap?

The challenge comes to which is easier to drive for you. Which ever car you crash less with you will most probably do a quicker overall time, don't worry about individual lap times.

In damp greasy conditions at Kiddy on Sunday I ran the SV2, as I felt this was the conditions that best suited the cars I had. If it had been bone try and high grip I would of run the KF. - appreciate that may not be much help as Mark has said. Both cars are great in the right conditions and Im sure if we could rely on the great British weather to be kind all 'summer' you could happily go with the KF!

Oh and my SV2 seemed to jump pretty well last year, even in practice at the Worlds....

:thumbsup:

[Juicy74]

I dunno but it might help if you could get ask someone at your local track to let you have a go at their KF and/or SV2 then make a more informed decision?

[gwesty]

I didn't have a problem in the wet/damp on Sunday with the kf . The car had good traction even with a geared diff allowing me to post the fastest lap times . Compared to a sv2 the kf is far more balanced for me .

[Scumpi]

lol :p

[TARTMAN]

The KF seems to go great in the soggy stuff at the local track. I had an SV2 for ages and never had any issues with jumping, ever, actually jumped amazingly well. I would go for the KF personally it seems to be going great, if there your only choices.


:D

[jonathan may]

I didn't have a problem in the wet/damp on Sunday with the kf . The car had good traction even with a geared diff allowing me to post the fastest lap times . Compared to a sv2 the kf is far more balanced for me .

what setup were you using for wet and damp ?

[madmax]

I have just recently bought a KF and I personally think it is a good car that suits my driving style.

out the box it is very twitchy but with a few small tweaks can be dialled down,

I think Mossy / Tom and the guys at Schumacher have produced a car that will be competitive in a variety of conditions, with the right setup. its a new car and KF drivers will be playing with setups for quite some time yet,
places such as storm valley are good for getting a loose setup

all I can really say is time will tell

[RDG 40]

Jus get both ;-) helpful arent i lol

Try both bud if you can c what suits U!! And ur style.

We have plenty in our region to try if they will b kind.

[Juicy74]

Sorry to hijack this thread but i have a question about parts on both cars.
What do i have do to fit the KF's rear shock tower guard on my sv2? Will i need to buy the KF shock towers or will they fit the stock sv2 towers?

[shaungooner]

after running my KF for the first time outdoors at Mendip on Sunday which was very wet first thing and drying off to damp in the afternoon I'd say if you can afford the various upgardes you need to replicate Tom C's wet/damp setup i.e alloy rear upper trans housing, ball diff, bleeder shock caps etc then go for the KF, I'm a decent level club driver (usually comfortably mid table) and I qualified and finished 4th so very pleased with how the car went in conditions that it is not supposed to be well suited to :thumbsup:

[mark christopher]

Sorry to hijack this thread but i have a question about parts on both cars.
What do i have do to fit the KF's rear shock tower guard on my sv2? Will i need to buy the KF shock towers or will they fit the stock sv2 towers?

They don't fit if shocks are on front of tower, sv2 on rear of tower

[Juicy74]

They don't fit if shocks are on front of tower, sv2 on rear of tower

Thanks for the reply. So what you're saying is that if my shocks are rear of the tower, then the guards will fit?

[jonathan may]

no the guards don't fit if shocks are rear mounted

[Juicy74]

no the guards don't fit if shocks are rear mounted

This guy managed to get it to work and i'm hoping to do the same.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144723

[dobber]

I've got a KF with the shocks fitted to the rear and the protectors fit no problem.

[mark christopher]

I've got a KF with the shocks fitted to the rear and the protectors fit no problem.

But are the shocks not protected by the wing when mounted at the rear and behind the shock tower? If so what are the shock protectors protecting when shocks at the rear?

[dobber]

The shock tower, if you crack the tower does not dig in and break.

[Juicy74]

I've busted 2 shock towers on my sv2 already... So expensive... The guards will help with the longevity of the towers, hopefully. If not then i'll either have to improve my driving in a hurry or cut out pieces of the towers from G10 fibreglass sheets.