Setup for Tf5 Shine? please help

[Fred79]

Any good tip on a good standard setup for the TF5 Shine edition?

[Darren Boyle]

We dont have that version here in the UK so you may not get that many replies, especially from such an off road orientated fraternaity such as oOple

[jimmy]

Fabs runs the Kyosho Touring cars I think?

[Arn0]

Check this page (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/kyosho/SetupSheetsKyoshoTF5.htm)

[Neil Skull]

We dont have that version here in the UK so you may not get that many replies, especially from such an off road orientated fraternaity such as oOple

I think he means the SHIN edition in which case Dave saul is the main man of the moment for uk tracks see the link in the last post for his set ups.

[Fabs]

Well if you could tell me what surface and class you're running that would be a good help. As for Dave, erm I had a look at his setups and, you know, it's worth a try if you're running in a low power class, but I have serious doubts they'll work in 5-cell mod. He's done some weird stuff on these setups.

[Fred79]

I run a 4,5 T Lrp/Vortex combo.
Track conditions indoor, carpet high grip and rough asfalt on
the outside track with medium grip.
But i Ran into a problem after finishing the build...
I noticed that the steering rods came in heavy conflict with one of the
the metal blocs that are holding the wisbones.
is this normal?
I followed the build as per the manual and everything was double checked
and I still have the same problem.

[Fred79]

some pic of the build:


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/fredgar/01102008290.jpg



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/fredgar/01102008289.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/fredgar/01102008288.jpg



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/fredgar/01102008287.jpg


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/fredgar/01102008285.jpg

[vinny20]

Very nice

[Col]

You gonna buy one, Vinny?
I'll buy it off you next week for 1/2 price if you want

[vinny20]

You gonna buy one, Vinny?
I'll buy it off you next week for 1/2 price if you want


Eh what are u talking about

[Col]

X ray.....

[vinny20]

X ray.....


oh ok pm if u can this is a kyosho form please

[Col]

I don't want to buy it, I was merely pointing out that you buy one week, sell the next

[jimmy]

very nice!:thumbsup:

[Fabs]

I run a 4,5 T Lrp/Vortex combo.
Track conditions indoor, carpet high grip and rough asfalt on
the outside track with medium grip.
But i Ran into a problem after finishing the build...
I noticed that the steering rods came in heavy conflict with one of the
the metal blocs that are holding the wisbones.
is this normal?
I followed the build as per the manual and everything was double checked
and I still have the same problem.

I take it you're running 5-cell then... Have a look at my carpet wars setup on the link above, it should get you started. One thing i'd change from that now that I know the car a bit better are roll centres, especially the front, I'd put even more shims under the rear suspension blocks. Maybe also try softer springs as this car has really high wheel rates compared to the rest, so whatever springs you ran on your previous car, I suggest you go one rate lower on the Shin (ex, I usually ran tamiya blues outdoors on my TRF, but on this I ran yellows).

As for the steering thing, once you'll have set the droop as per my setup it won't happen. I agree that it shouldn't happen but that's how the car is, all it does really is limit the amout of droop you can run at the front.

[Fred79]

Fabs:
When I try to put on some 30mm foam tyres on the rear they touch the ball link at the end of the supension shaft.
What do you guys do to make them fit?
Do you flip the wishbone arond and move the suspension lin 1 hole further in on the arm?

( if you flip it you will se there are 2 holes instead of one)

What to do???
And will those changes effect handling?

[sosidge]

What do you guys do to make them fit?

Run rubber!

[Fred79]

Hard to go fast on rubber for a rookie like me :D

[sosidge]

Hard to go fast on rubber for a rookie like me :D

Better than cutting the car to pieces to try and fit tyres that were not designed for electric cars onto it. The Kyosho is built around 24mm rubbers and every mod you make on it to try and make wide foams work is a compromise.

Rubbers are much more rewarding to drive and because they stay the same size you don't have to spend half the race meeting adjusting ride height and gearing.

But if foam is what you want...

[Fred79]

Tnx for the headz up :)
do you guys go as fast with rubber as with foam?

[sosidge]

Tnx for the headz up :)
do you guys go as fast with rubber as with foam?

The very fastest cars are on foam however rubbers are very fast also, especially once the grip comes up.

Last race meeting I went to was an indoor carpet club meeting, I TQ'd and set the fastest laptimes with a 19T brushed motor and rubber tyres, against cars running modified motors and foams.

Now I am not going to claim that I am any good as a driver, nor am I going to claim that the opposition was world class, but these are good club drivers whom I have always been on a similar pace to, and foams were no advantage for them at all.

[Fabs]

Fabs:
When I try to put on some 30mm foam tyres on the rear they touch the ball link at the end of the supension shaft.
What do you guys do to make them fit?
Do you flip the wishbone arond and move the suspension lin 1 hole further in on the arm?

( if you flip it you will se there are 2 holes instead of one)

What to do???
And will those changes effect handling?

I only ran foams once in my life and to be honest i didn't like it. They require a totally different setup to rubber and as sosidge said, there isn't much difference in lap times, and you have to true them and they chunk etc...

My advice is, if you're a newbie, stick to rubber, pick my setup and run a reasonably slow motor to start with, if you want to run 5-cell then i suggest a 6.5T as this is equivalent in power to a good 19T.

[Fred79]

I will be running in the superstock class with the 19T brushed or 10,5 T brushless.
Those are the options i have regarding motors but I stuck with the 10,5T brushless.
Was really going for the 4,5T but too fast for my skills.

[Fabs]

Can't garantee that my setup will work with 6-cells but i'd still use it as a base setup.

[Fred79]

I will ;)
Tnx again Fabs.

[DeLaSoul]

Hi,

Karl Marsden asked me to pop by and see if I can help on Shin setups :lol:

I have a few, but the last one seems to be working well indoors and outdoors and is for 6 cell 10.5 and 6.5. Easy to drive and a good baseline to work from.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/DWSaul/CarSetups#5259313787356989170

HTH

Dave

[Karl Marsden]

Hi,

Karl Marsden asked me to pop by and see if I can help on Shin setups :lol:

I have a few, but the last one seems to be working well indoors and outdoors and is for 6 cell 10.5 and 6.5. Easy to drive and a good baseline to work from.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/DWSaul/CarSetups#5259313787356989170

HTH

Dave


Cheers Dave for helping out with some of the guys questions.

Dave has been running the Shin with some great results, 3rd at the KO GP, shoing that the car has potential and just needs running like most of our competitaion kits in the UK market.

Any questions, drop him a PM or post a thread and we will do our best to help you TC boys.

I guess with oople just being soooo good, you can't help but chat on here!:thumbsup: Keep up the great work Jimmy!

Regards

Karl Marsden

Kyosho UK

[Fabs]

Hi guys,

Here's a link (http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/kyosho/setup/TF5/StallionShin_FabianSimonini_CarpetWarsRd220081109. pdf) to my setup from Carpet Wars round 2, which I used to qualify and finish 3rd last week end in 10.5/lipo.

Any questions feel free to ask.

Fab

Setup is the correct one now.