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Quick question
Whos ordered the b-max 4 champ version. Only problem no lipo version seems to be a over look by yokomo. Or will there be an upgrade for it.
DaveG28
11-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Got one at home waiting to be built, pretty sure trakpower 3200 Lipo will go in!?
Got one at home waiting to be built, pretty sure trakpower 3200 Lipo will go in!?
I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:
I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:
I have one on order also have five packs of trakpower 3200's hope they fit.
I Wonder if Diggity Designs will make a conversion. for the larger lipo cells like the do for the b44
sosidge
11-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Now called me an old fashioned grinch but I just don't understand this obsession with putting LiPo saddles in cars.
Yokomo built the car around the weight distribution with NiMHs. The car won the Euros and the other meetings it has won with NiMHs. The slots are the exact size of NiMHs.
Yet all people want to do is hack the car about to put a LiPo in!
OK, so they are easier to use - but they completely mess up the weight distribution. I've seen a few rear-saddle cars running LiPos and half of them handle like utter dogs compared to the NiMH cars. Even if you are very clever with your ballast, you will still struggle to match the weight distribution the Yokomo engineers spent months deciding on.
It astonishes me that a couple of years ago people were getting worked up about how the Yokomo BX cells were moved a few mm compared to another car, yet people are now removing 150-200gms from the rear of the car without a thought!
And why are you ordering FIVE Lipos? From what I understand one pack, two at most is enough for a whole race meeting, because you can top them up right after use and get similar performance, unlike NiMHs which need cooling time, so unless you are running five different cars each day, five packs seems like a massive waste of money.
If you want a LiPo car, get the CAT. It is the only car on the market that has been designed for it - but even I don't know whether the weight distribution is the same as the NiMH version (I think it is a lot closer than any rear saddle car would be though).
Grumble over.
DaveG28
11-10-2008, 04:37 PM
Now called me an old fashioned grinch but I just don't understand this obsession with putting LiPo saddles in cars.
Yokomo built the car around the weight distribution with NiMHs. The car won the Euros and the other meetings it has won with NiMHs. The slots are the exact size of NiMHs.
Yet all people want to do is hack the car about to put a LiPo in!
OK, so they are easier to use - but they completely mess up the weight distribution. I've seen a few rear-saddle cars running LiPos and half of them handle like utter dogs compared to the NiMH cars. Even if you are very clever with your ballast, you will still struggle to match the weight distribution the Yokomo engineers spent months deciding on.
It astonishes me that a couple of years ago people were getting worked up about how the Yokomo BX cells were moved a few mm compared to another car, yet people are now removing 150-200gms from the rear of the car without a thought!
And why are you ordering FIVE Lipos? From what I understand one pack, two at most is enough for a whole race meeting, because you can top them up right after use and get similar performance, unlike NiMHs which need cooling time, so unless you are running five different cars each day, five packs seems like a massive waste of money.
If you want a LiPo car, get the CAT. It is the only car on the market that has been designed for it - but even I don't know whether the weight distribution is the same as the NiMH version (I think it is a lot closer than any rear saddle car would be though).
Grumble over.
Chill out fella! All you do is add the weight back to the cells with lead underneath and your back in the ballpark! I am mystified by needing 5 packs!!
MHeadling
11-10-2008, 05:32 PM
Iv got one coming from CML, will build it and see what it goes like compared to my 501, if it goes well it will stay if not then it will be for sale!
bigred5765
11-10-2008, 05:35 PM
i was just gona say why would you need 5 packs, when everyone using them is saying fit one and forget about it, just top it up,
hell i even heard someone glue one pack in, lol Q the pm,
Spoolio
11-10-2008, 08:16 PM
...hell i even heard someone glue one pack in, lol Q the pm,
Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.
Seriously, the weight thing is getting to be a ball-ache. My Durga handles like crap with a 3200 lipo in it as its half the weight of a pack of nimh cells. If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?
Are they available to buy now?
YZ~10
11-10-2008, 09:31 PM
Are they available to buy now?
Yes see here... http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml_product.php?productId=0000003600
:thumbsup:
Darren Boyle
11-10-2008, 10:16 PM
No, they are due in soon, not yet here
bigred5765
11-10-2008, 11:22 PM
Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.
If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?
lipo sacks are for girls,:p
DaveG28
12-10-2008, 01:46 AM
I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:
Got mine mainly built tonight (except suspension), and 3200 saddles definitely fit, won't need any lipo locators or anything either as the car comes with foam pads that work to hold it in place. :thumbsup::thumbsup: I have used BX battery posts and carbon straps and they fit fine.
Only thing to be careful of is this, as per other cars I can see height being an issue on the bodyshell where the connectors stick out of the battery, I think it'll need horizontally soldered wires to the bullet connectors, the cells only fit in with the connectors to the outside so vertical soldered wires will foul the shell I am guessing!
Dave
Got mine mainly built tonight (except suspension), and 3200 saddles definitely fit, won't need any lipo locators or anything either as the car comes with foam pads that work to hold it in place. :thumbsup::thumbsup: I have used BX battery posts and carbon straps and they fit fine.
Only thing to be careful of is this, as per other cars I can see height being an issue on the bodyshell where the connectors stick out of the battery, I think it'll need horizontally soldered wires to the bullet connectors, the cells only fit in with the connectors to the outside so vertical soldered wires will foul the shell I am guessing!
Dave That's good news. Do you think the bigger trakpower saddles would fit as well. I run the larger cells in my b44 with the Diggity Designs conversion
DaveG28
12-10-2008, 11:42 AM
That's good news. Do you think the bigger trakpower saddles would fit as well. I run the larger cells in my b44 with the Diggity Designs conversion
Wouldn't be able to tell without having a pack to hand sorry, if your at Worksop feel free to try it there?
Can't see them going in though, may fit under the topdeck or to the side of it, but I think there'd be no way of wiring it up under the bodyshell!
Spoolio
12-10-2008, 06:00 PM
lipo sacks are for girls,:p
I know you're saying that tongue-in-cheek but seriously, at Worksop lipo sacks are The Law.
bigred5765
12-10-2008, 06:16 PM
if you use lipo that's just fine, and rules are rules, just like the no mac e dees.
Spoolio
12-10-2008, 07:50 PM
Wicked :woot:
big smithy
13-10-2008, 09:13 AM
Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.
Seriously, the weight thing is getting to be a ball-ache. My Durga handles like crap with a 3200 lipo in it as its half the weight of a pack of nimh cells. If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?
watz the cat sx lipo mines ace :p
MHeadling
13-10-2008, 12:14 PM
info from CMLs website, should be here this month!
http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml_product.php?menu=rc_cars&range=RACING&productId=0000003600&galleryImage=16#G
Spoolio
13-10-2008, 07:36 PM
watz the cat sx lipo mines ace :p
Yeah, OK smartarse, apart from Schumacher then (I can't afford their prices anyway).
MHeadling
16-10-2008, 10:04 AM
I spoke to Jase at Cml yesterday and they are still 2-3 weeks away! I want my one now!
DaveG28
16-10-2008, 12:27 PM
I've got mine, import, and planning to run it a bit at Worksop Sunday, your not missing much yet though Mark, there's no spares at all anywhere yet, so I'm only running till the first thing breaks!
MHeadling
16-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Yes take it easy Dave, let us know how you find it! i think its going to be a good un! also good news Tom Yardy is on board so there will be lots of set up info from him and cragg for the UK tracks.
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do you mean these parts? ;)
http://www.eseller.ch/images/product_images/info_images/901_0.jpg
DaveG28
17-10-2008, 12:42 AM
They've arrived???
I think you'll be getting an order from me soon Adi!! Shame its too late for this weekend!
For those who've run it with BX shocks, how did you set them up, I've had a devil of a time getting the car low enough?
Its not a lightweight by the way, even with 3200 sadle Lipo its nearly 100g overweight without any ballast!! Still trying to decide whether to add some anyway for better balance.
Dave
albertobdq
17-10-2008, 07:55 PM
Only some parts are already available, not the whole package. I've been talking with rc champ and they are asking Yokomo every 2-3 days for them.
DaveG28
22-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Yes take it easy Dave, let us know how you find it! i think its going to be a good un! also good news Tom Yardy is on board so there will be lots of set up info from him and cragg for the UK tracks.
Ran the car in the final qulifying round at Worksop Sunday, and suffice to say set my best time of the day with it on it's first run, better than I managed with the BX Worlds all day!! Got 17th in round too, which trust me for me is very good!!
Still some setup work to do on it but the major plusses immediately were that it jumps very very well, and it felt very easy to get a good rythmn compared to other cars I've run!
Overall, :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:, especially considering the only thing none standard about it was having Bx shocks on!!
jasonrcb
22-10-2008, 07:05 PM
dave whats the build like on the car just checked my tracking and mine will be with me tomorrow :thumbsup:
DaveG28
22-10-2008, 07:12 PM
dave whats the build like on the car just checked my tracking and mine will be with me tomorrow :thumbsup:
Nice and easy, the diffs and driveshafts are all prebuilt :thumbsup:
Everything else went together well and quickly, really was the easiest I have ever done!
jasonrcb
22-10-2008, 07:15 PM
what a bonus as im not the best at getting a diff right im looking forward to it arriving even more now
MHeadling
29-10-2008, 05:10 PM
I was at MK Racing today,Marc tells me that the B max are in at CML :thumbsup: should not be long to go!
Let me know when you guys get your UK ones.
A.J. Gee
30-10-2008, 02:23 AM
I have. Cant wait to get it. Does anyone know if Yokomo will provide hop ups for the B max?
nyheli
30-10-2008, 05:02 AM
I have. Cant wait to get it. Does anyone know if Yokomo will provide hop ups for the B max?
shocks for upgrading is needed,my friend tested it with D4's shocks yesterday.:D
http://f5.wretch.yimg.com/hadam/20/1009685480.jpg
MHeadling
30-10-2008, 04:06 PM
Iv just spoke to CML, the kits came in yesterday and are shipping out as we speak! I hope to get my mitts on my one tomorrow! :thumbsup:
showtime
30-10-2008, 07:07 PM
yeah i heard MK will have kits tomorrow :)
MHeadling
30-10-2008, 08:21 PM
So are you getting one Show Time?
So are you getting one Show Time?
I have one on order so fingers crossed Only problem back to work on nights so will not get to build it till wednesday
MHeadling
30-10-2008, 09:11 PM
Don't worry Paul, iv heard it's a quick build so you'll have it done in no time! I'll let you know how my one goes!
Boys, take it easy... :D Its really very easy to build!
We goes this weekend to germany..
The fastets german boy called Joern Neumann is also there!
http://www.rcweb.de/forum/download/file.php?id=36071&t=1
http://www.rcweb.de/forum/download/file.php?id=36070&t=1
DaveG28
30-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Boys, take it easy... :D Its really very easy to build!
We goes this weekend to germany..
The fastets german boy called Joern Neumann is also there!
http://www.rcweb.de/forum/download/file.php?id=36071&t=1
http://www.rcweb.de/forum/download/file.php?id=36070&t=1
Wow, that jump in the middle is like a wall!
Don't worry Paul, iv heard it's a quick build so you'll have it done in no time! I'll let you know how my one goes!
Thanks mark
Do'nt brake it first out time
MHeadling
03-11-2008, 09:57 AM
My B max turned up on Saturday at my LHS, going to pick it up this arvo!
Looking forward to the build!
RC-Span
03-11-2008, 03:13 PM
here's my toy:woot::drool:
and this car is really easy to drive! i love it!!
http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?pictureid=897&albumid=180&dl=1225724997&thumb=1 (http://www.oople.com/forums/album.php?albumid=180&pictureid=897)
DaveG28
03-11-2008, 05:14 PM
How is everyone finding the rideheight at the rear with Bx shocks and black springs? I'm really struggling to get mine low enough for indoor racing??
Loving the car though, so easy to drive! Setup tip by the way, I'm running far less camber than on other cars!
MHeadling
03-11-2008, 05:26 PM
Well nearly done my car, but... I have 2 x left handed rear hubs!
Any one else had this problem?? I have called CML about it and they are going to look into it and give me a buzz tomorrow.
They have had the spares come through with the kits so they have most bits.
Also tried the trak power saddle packs in it 3200 ones, the battery straps dont shut with these cells, how are you mounting your li-po? I was thinking B44 style with carbon straps?
RC-Span
03-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Hi
i use the short shock shafts from the first bx-version. springs are the black ones from academy...
DaveG28
03-11-2008, 08:17 PM
Well nearly done my car, but... I have 2 x left handed rear hubs!
Any one else had this problem?? I have called CML about it and they are going to look into it and give me a buzz tomorrow.
They have had the spares come through with the kits so they have most bits.
Also tried the trak power saddle packs in it 3200 ones, the battery straps dont shut with these cells, how are you mounting your li-po? I was thinking B44 style with carbon straps?
I use Bx mounts and straps, I'm sure B44 will do the job too!
MHeadling
03-11-2008, 10:21 PM
OK thanks Dave I will try the Yokomo BX straps, who is best in the UK to get spares from mail order??
Any one had the rear hub problem?? i.e 2 left hand ones?? I was thinking would BX alloy rear hubs fit?
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