Kyosho Scorpion re-release - Shizuoka Show

[percymon]

Finally Kyoshso gets on the re-re bandwagon...

http://www.rc-news.de/04/2014/coming-soon-kyosho-scorpion-re-release/

[Gayo]

Wow! Awesome :thumbsup:

[OptimaFan]

About time, let's hope it's the start of more to come.

[ralphee]

Kyosho seem to have made a post on FB, at least i think it is, unless its a fan page, but i reckon we will see the Mid return at least, which is great news, never was a big fan, but, i could be converted!

lee

[j0pp3]

Kyosho seem to have made a post on FB, at least i think it is, unless its a fan page, but i reckon we will see the Mid return at least, which is great news, never was a big fan, but, i could be converted!

lee

No need to go that far off to find good sources. Just check out their own website ;)

[OptimaFan]

Can you give a direct link to the Kyosho site where a re-re of the Mid is announced?

Hope they will make it fully belt drive, like the Lazer ZX-R, so the re-re will not suffer from the wearing out of the rear diff gear teeth and idler gear as the original Mid had. I think that is the Mid's weakest spot.

[Gayo]

I have not seen any mention of a re-re Mid, although I'd like to.

[OptimaFan]

Yeah, I misinterpreted the word "reckon" as being sure, but I understand it's still speculation and so far only the Scorpion is confirmed.

[oli4ke]

Gentlemen,

Kyosho will never re-release many vintage models due to the fact that many moulds are missing or heavily damaged :thumbdown: Hopefully they can recover some of them!! :bored:

And yes, this info is from an insider.....:p

[ralphee]

Gentlemen,

Kyosho will never re-release many vintage models due to the fact that many molds are missing or heavily damaged :thumbdown: Hopefully they can recover some of them!! :bored:

And yes, this info is from an insider.....:p

So just spitballing, these moulds and tooling can be easily redone, never say never i say, just look at Yokomo, even Tamiya, seems many of there parts are retools, even in static models, if Kyosho want to, they will, all depends on there market needs!

lee

[oli4ke]

So just spitballing, these moulds and tooling can be easily redone, never say never i say, just look at Yokomo, even Tamiya, seems many of there parts are retools, even in static models, if Kyosho want to, they will, all depends on there market needs!

lee

Fingers crossed!:bored:

[ralphee]

Fingers crossed!:bored:


Absolutely, never been a fan, but id actually relish a re re of these cars, and remember, there were nay sayers way back when the Avante was rumoured, so lets keep them all crossed lol.

lee

[Si Coe]

Associated always said they wouldn't re-re the RC10 because several key molds no longer existed, but not only did they do that, but then promptly re-re'd the worlds version with a load of different plastic parts.

Another way to look at this is that there are companies out in China that take a car and produce a complete knock-off. If its a viable concept for them to duplicate parts it should be easy enough for the original manufacturer to do the same.

[Crashtest33]

I thought Craig Drescher said the only missing mould was the chassis? No?

[DanB4]

I thought Craig Drescher said the only missing mould was the chassis? No?

Correct- Cliff Lett said the same to me at RCX, had a good long chat with him, great guy

[OptimaFan]

I think that no one inside Kyosho is going to confirm rumors and just deny everything until an official statement has been made, as this is standard policy with many companies.

The molds gone missing/damaged is hardly a reason, as mentioned by others, replicating parts has never been as easy as today. If the molds are CNC, it's an option the CAD files are still there, these don't get eaten by age. Plus other companies that mentioned having the same issues about the molds when asked if they would ever do a re-re of their classic cars, suddenly were able to do even more than one re-re.

[regstar123]

I think that no one inside Kyosho is going to confirm rumors and just deny everything until an official statement has been made, as this is standard policy with many companies.

The molds gone missing/damaged is hardly a reason, as mentioned by others, replicating parts has never been as easy as today. If the molds are CNC, it's an option the CAD files are still there, these don't get eaten by age. Plus other companies that mentioned having the same issues about the molds when asked if they would ever do a re-re of their classic cars, suddenly were able to do even more than one re-re.

It also only takes minutes for some skilled in CAD to recreate a part/s if they have one in front of them. Heck, they could even just do a 3D scan of the part!

[HKS_TRD]

I imagine just like the other models the moulds for the Scorpion were also lost so had to be recreated
If that is the case then I think its a safe assumption that if they can recreate them for the Scorpion they can and will do it for other models too

[terry.sc]

I thought Craig Drescher said the only missing mould was the chassis? No?
Doesn't matter if they have the old moulds or not, they wouldn't fit in the Thunder Tiger moulding machines anyway. They have all been remade, as shown by the changes in most of the parts so it should be easy to spot original and rerelease parts. The moulds had been updated over the years so they had to be remade to go back to the original design of the parts.

The designers even had to borrow an original car to ensure the new parts will fit on the old chassis.

[Gibopel]

Details on red rc now up new shox slipper gears etc

[j0pp3]

Details on red rc now up new shox slipper gears etc

Why use third party sources? ;)
http://www.kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=109876

http://www.kyosho.com/common/image.php?id=135050

http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/products/rc/extra_img/car/30613/L_WEB_scorpion_E_out.jpg

[OptimaFan]

Nice touch to make it compatible with current parts, like they did with the RB6 diff.

[mr. ed]

would be nice if they also made a modification to stop the front suspension bar from rolling up on the first nose-dive ;)

Seeing this has made me sort my own creation back to working order.
Using the scorpion suspension mated with a sprinter style rc10 carbon chassis and trackmaster ultima drivetrain... looking forward to put it out against the re-re :p

[Gayo]

Any pic Mr Ed? :drool:

[mr. ed]

You can have a look here:
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5973
That's how it had been sitting since 2008.

New are a descent wing stay and wing, shorty lipo and savox low profile servo in front of the shorty pack, receiver moved in front of the servo and ESC centered in front of the bulhead over the pack. But I haven't made pics of those new modifications yet.

[Gayo]

Thanks :)

[mr. ed]

Pretty lame they did not go for 12mm hexes or something a bit better to get the powe rfrom the rear axles on to the wheels :thumbdown:

[mar7]

More info on kyosho america facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.683262918401774.1073741845.277838672277536&type=1

[OptimaFan]

Promo vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VQ0gq68A0mc

[sheriff]

Cracking vid, Will definitely be buying one. And if they re-release the Mid, well, that would be the best RC car news ever.

[j0pp3]

Pics from Sweden.

http://rsb.se/arena/attachment.php?attachmentid=46270&d=1402758719

http://forumbilder.se/DD3U8/foto-002.JPG

http://forumbilder.se/DD3U8/foto-003.JPG

http://forumbilder.se/DD3U8/foto-004.JPG


http://forumbilder.se/DD3U8/foto-005.JPG

[Danny]

Niiice! Painted tyres as standard is impressive

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Ordered one of these :D can't wait to get in the box and have a nose, looks to be a well thought out kit.

[percymon]

Banzaihobby are now taking pre-orders - $235 delivered to UK with EMS shipping. Even with full import duties and handling fees thats around £160 :D :D

[Theibault]

Here is mine. Love this car.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk194/theibault/Scorpion/IMG_0534_zps887bb2b8.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/theibault/media/Scorpion/IMG_0534_zps887bb2b8.jpg.html)
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[Neil Skull]

These are due into Our warehouse late next week and will be shipped to the UK shops ASAP!
Please support your UK shops!

[gomachv]

I finished mine last night. The build quality is great, very impressive. One thing to note is that some including myself have found the dogbones to bind badly with the swing of the arm. All I did was loosen and retighten the trans (centering it) and I also did the same to the arm mounts. No binding whatsoever now. The trans is silky smooth, and the fitment is perfection.

Oh, and the tires still say Sand Super on the other side. I will be painting and turning mine around eventually!

[OptimaFan]

You mean binding of the dogbone with the A-arm itself? Maybe a pic to clarify?

Looks nice, maybe a few green stripes on the wing as well?

[gomachv]

The binding is when the dogbone is parallel to the ground. At full compression and full extension it is free. The arc that the arm takes makes it bind until you re torque everything. Once the trans is centered left to right the binding is gone.

In the original manual they show that the trans needs to sit centerline of the plate. Apparently this binding is not a new thing lol.

[Theibault]

Looking good!

[percymon]

Got mine this morning..

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/percymon/kyosho%20Scorpion/676A3DBE-36A6-41F7-8130-E155F94E1B3C_zpsasjmh612.jpg
As much as I try to support UK sellers, when i can ship a single kit half way around the globe, pay UK taxes plus parcel force handling fees and still save over £20, there's something not right.

[bender]

Got mine today too, already half built, car is just fantastic.. great to finally own a scorpion.. now if only theyd re-release the Gallop or Progress :thumbsup:

[Theibault]

I would like the Optima re released.

[Ashlandchris]

I would like the Optima re released.

I'll second that

[HKS_TRD]

Hopefully the success of the Scorpion re-release will give Kyosho the confidence to do the Optima
I think the Ultima would be a given too as it won the Worlds in 87

Would be interesting to see if the did the Mid as well

[OptimaFan]

The Mid would be great as re-re, if they keep things like the diff and rear tranny gears fully compatible, but more durable.

[gomachv]

I decided to go a little more "Tomahawk" on mine. No permanent mods, bolts right up. I'll have to get a 'hawk body coming but for now the stock body fits great

I took a few liberties, the rch rear tower was melded with the stock 2014 for the third mounting hole and short shock positions. I don't expect to see the CB shocks rereleased, but just in case! Lol

I also ran the servo plate further forward to tie into the front skid plate which i copied in Kydex. The front bumper is a slightly modified copy off an Assault. I haven't had a chance to make the front towers and brace yet

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/27B89272-68EB-4F0A-9ED7-D1AF46357932_zps7ryowufb.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/FC5B6A3D-8FC7-41DB-A4CB-A0885C0F4707_zpsw55wcpif.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/55F91D07-EFF2-4D5C-921F-B954033F36FE_zpsp42wpe39.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/3B8DB36C-139F-4024-A2D2-77F4CF365456_zpszwgf994z.jpg

[gomachv]

I am liking the blue better:drool:
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/875A017D-D361-424F-96B7-CC62CAE64D74_zpsoz7cwdew.jpg

[gomachv]

TBG have the Mrp Harris body available. This is mine with the Harris on it in case anyone wondered What the body looked like. I'll post a better pic when it's painted...unless someone buys it first

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k545/gomachv/5C04663B-1B01-4617-A15D-A2659C28D179_zpsxmbtpjc0.jpg

[Peakey]

Looks good Jeff I like what you've done with the anno