535D

[Lee]

Anyone had any experience with the BMW 535D, i am told this is "the" diesel engine to have but i would prefer an owners opinion rather than a magazines test.

I need a bigger car, the A3 is awesome but the boot can be a tad small for going racing, i quite like the idea of the 5 series touring :thumbsup:

[Northy]

You'll just run it into something and dent it all again :woot:

[Lee]

it was hard to dodge the flying cones :p

I want to be like you G and join the hearse club :thumbsup:

[Col]

I used to work for BMW, so know a little about these.

From what I can remember this is the 3.0L twin turbo diesel and is an absolute work of art. Without a doubt the best diesel engine on the market today in a superb car.

However, buy one of these at your peril...you'll struggle to get rid of it later for anywhere near what it's worth.

Best value BMW today is the 320D touring sport

[Bomberpilot]

Hi Lee

you mean the biturbo 6-in-line 535D?
It goes like a rocket, until 120 km/h you are not really slower than a M5 V10
You have to be carefull with the Turbochargers, cause they sometimes have a problem with "switch"-system between the little and the big charger...blocated.:thumbdown:
suspension is all Aluminium, so it wears out a little faster, specialy on front.

Greetings from switzerland
Maurice

[Lee]

Col, Maurice,

Yes thats the one, i have been told its a bit of a rocketship, 0-60 in 6.5 isn't bad for a big car, and 35mpg ~

It wont be for a few months yet but i dont fancy a range rover and i quite like the look of the M sport models :)

Plus i have put 20k on the audi since june so i need to move that on before the miles effect its value :thumbsup:

[rcracer]

I want to be like you G and join the hearse club :thumbsup:

Estate cars are ace :thumbsup:

[Mike Hudson]

Jus get a huuggge van and give it some NOS

[Lee]

Estate cars are ace :thumbsup:

Agreed, i find this a little impractical


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[stegger]

:woot:

[mattym0310]

my dad had the 335D, that was a great car and a rocket ship. You will have no trouble fitting all your stuff in there, they're huge :)

[ben]

my dad had the 335D, that was a great car and a rocket ship. You will have no trouble fitting all your stuff in there, they're huge :)

Yep! 2 F8 haulers, 2 transmitter boxes, 2 large tables, 3 chairs, sleeping bags,pillows, 3 kids. And my large tent accross mine and matt's laps on the back seats. :woot:

[mattym0310]

but the one lee is looking at is the bigger version so there is loads more room

[Belsten]

you earn far too much mate :thumbsup:

[Lee]

i dont think thats possible, whatever you earn you spend ;)

[showtime]

i'm tempted for a diesel estate car as although it has a MASSIVE boot the S8 isn't as versatile as an estate for racing etc
personally i think the later shaped Audi A6 Avants are stunning looking cars for estates, prob even better looking than the saloon equivalents :wub
i know the BMW engine is regarded as very good but the Audi 3.0Tdi seems to have plenty of grunt plus if you add in the quattro 4wd you're never getting stuck in a muddy field after a wet meeting again :thumbsup:

go on you know you want to ;)

http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2004-11-04-a6-avant/_A6_Avant_1.jpg

[chris68nufc]

Lee
Get a Disco. Its the best car ive drove in a bit. Tonnes of room for racing gear but only does 25 mpg when you stick the pedal to the metal. What about Q7? Audi are very nice aswell.

[Lee]

I do like my audi and i would definately have another, i like the disco's but i fancy something quick too, as i cant take the toy out every day :(

[Mike Hudson]

Just the ferrari you need ;) can fit plenty of haulers in this 360 :woot: apparerntly will do 0-60 in under 6sec aswell :drool: maybe i'll leave the price out of the equation though :p
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/RaceAceMike/stretchferrari.jpg

[savageman25]

i'm tempted for a diesel estate car as although it has a MASSIVE boot the S8 isn't as versatile as an estate for racing etc
personally i think the later shaped Audi A6 Avants are stunning looking cars for estates, prob even better looking than the saloon equivalents :wub
i know the BMW engine is regarded as very good but the Audi 3.0Tdi seems to have plenty of grunt plus if you add in the quattro 4wd you're never getting stuck in a muddy field after a wet meeting again :thumbsup:

go on you know you want to ;)

http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2004-11-04-a6-avant/_A6_Avant_1.jpg
banger boy would go with an audi as well, but id go for the s4 diesal, i think thats the one i mean?

[Lee]

banger boy would go with an audi as well, but id go for the s4 diesal, i think thats the one i mean?

Why? Whats your reason?

When ever you see a review of the Audi compared to the Equivelant Merc / BMW it always seems to fall just short. I have no fear it will be an excellent carbut for some reason i like the look of the BMW M more :)

[MattADH]

Why not an A4 diesel? The boot is pretty big and there are loads of options on engine and performance. Economy is very good (better than the BMW I am led to believe).

I have a 140BHP 2.0 Audi A4 saloon and the wife a 120D 1-series BMW and although the 1-series has 20+ BHP, the Audi's 2.0 engine in my opionion is better than the BMW...

That said, the 535 is a proper piece of kit as I found out when we went to Holland for a race.

[Lee]

Cheers Matt, i have liked the 5 series for a while but i have never felt "old" enough to get one but with the sports pack on it looks pretty smart, all reviews say they would rather have the 535D than the M5 :o

[Southwell]

The M5 is fragile, the rear diffs seem to explode :lol:

Heres a diesel v petrol review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fg1EhBB1PQ

[Lee]

Ya Barred :o


I'll have a look at that when i get home :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

Its just the top gear one when they put it up against a v8 petrol 5 series.

[daz]

Lee-mag il sell you me Punto for 30 grand, its got no seats in the back so plenty of room for haulers and w**k mags. And it will do 150 mph and will give you 80 mpg. And its a proper fanny magnet :thumbsup:

[Lee]

Tempting :thumbsup:

[CLARKSON]

its a proper fanny magnet :thumbsup:

You mean, you look a tw*t driving it? :woot:

[daz]

No its got black out windows full of air bubbles so no one can see you. I will even supply a matching hoody with "my punto is ace" written on the back:thumbsup:

[Chris Doughty]

wouldn't it be ace if Vinny was the same with full sized cars as he is with RC cars...

he could buy a new one and then sell it the next day for 1/2 the price :thumbsup:

[Billy Dutton]

I think that model had a recall on "faulty indicators":confused: http://www.btinternet.com/~knutty.knights/bmw.gif ;)

[burton]

I love estates, Tourings and Advants or what ever else they are called. I have test driven a A6 3.0Tdi Advant and a 330D Touring. I love them think that cars look better in the bigger version of a Estate. I know that Audi were doing a deal with the Le Mans A6 for about 400 a month all in. Have you also consider a Alfa 159 awesome car also very nice too drive and a great car for cruising, you get alot of looks.

[ianjoyner]

Have you thought about the 530i? 0-60 6.5s, 35 mpg, not quite so much early torque as the diesel, but plenty for day to day driving and an awsome top end if you're caning it. They sound ace and probably quite a bit cheaper than the 535d too, worth a drive.

[bigred5765]

lee just been looking at the performance figures on that bmw, there mad but for insane check tunit.co.uk for a little over £400 they take it from bhp 286 torque 427 V-CR
to bhp 326 torque 465
thats just insane in a estate car

[showtime]

i know its not exactly relevant to the car in question but Audi sell the 572BHP RS6 as an estate :o

now thats insane :thumbsup:

[da999]

go for a 535d - you won't be disappointed! I moved from a subaru sti with 300bhp+ and the BMW is virtually as fast, auto lovely, really luxurious but fast, realistically wont do much above 30mpg unless you drive lots on the motorway but an awesome car!

[Lee]

I do a lot of motorway/dual carraigeway driving.

Showtime is that the one with the Gallardo engine :drool:


Liono, i think it would be chipped, eventually, the toy arrives tommorrow :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

Lee, there are a lot of family hatch's/saloons around for bargain prices at the moment - you've picked a good time to look for one, although I bet you've lost a wack on the Audi if you PX it?

Ive just PX'd the Focus, for a Mondeo Titanium X 2.2Tdci. Low mileage, 3 year old, over £22k new, and bought it for 1/3rd of the price. :thumbsup: Its also going to save me a fortune over the Focus!!!!

[Lee]

I have probably lost 2-3k on the audi but i have done 20k + in it so im not too fussed.

i should get nearly 10k for it, then stick another 10 ish on the beemer :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

I have probably lost 2-3k on the audi but i have done 20k + in it so im not too fussed.

i should get nearly 10k for it, then stick another 10 ish on the beemer :thumbsup:

Yep, 18-20k seems about the going rate for a 3year old 535D with less than 40k miles. But you know me, id then aim to pay 16k.

James Pritchards mum had one, I remember when James borrowed it for the Tiverton national and when he gave it some welly, the world slowed down a little bit and it now gets dark a lot sooner.

[Lee]

ill go the other way then and ill nail it so it speeds up a bit and stays lighter for longer :p

[Chrislong]

ill go the other way then and ill nail it so it speeds up a bit and stays lighter for longer :p

If you drive Northwards (is that a word? it is now), and floor it, but brake gently. Then driving Southwards, drive gently but brake hard - we'll be alongside Spain in no time. :thumbsup:

[Lee]

I'll try that tomorrow, im going to drive towards yours chris (west) then stamp on the brakes, so we can get nearer to the US and have some good clay tracks:thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

:woot: Good idea!!! Needs to be South Westernly, get us to Miami area.

[Southwell]

Ive just PX'd the Focus, for a Mondeo Titanium X 2.2Tdci. Low mileage, 3 year old, over £22k new, and bought it for 1/3rd of the price. :thumbsup: Its also going to save me a fortune over the Focus!!!!

Thats cheap, was it a main dealer? What MPG do you get? Ive just sold my Mondeo and quite like the new ones. Is it quick?

Sorry for the thread nick ;)

[Lee]

Its ok steal away, i like fords in general, i have never had a problem with them.

Infact i would say i like them more than pie, because not all pie is nice :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

Mines been faultless in three years. Pie is gooooooooooood :woot:

[Northy]

Is it possible for pie not to be nice? :confused:

We had some nice pie at EPO :thumbsup:

G

[Lee]

sprout and cabbage pie would be minging :o


what pie did you have :confused:

[showtime]

Showtime is that the one with the Gallardo engine :drool:


the engine in the new S8 is more like the Gallardo (normally aspirated 5.2 V10) but with direct fuel injection, Audi call it FSI i think?
only 444Bhp lol

the RS6 has the same 5.2 V10 but with 2 Turbochargers slapped on to take it up to the 572 Bhp :woot:

[Northy]

what pie did you have :confused:

Didn't we both have steak pie?

G

[Spoolio]

Audi A6 2.0SE Avant, 1995M, 196k miles, burns no oil, alloys, faux Recaro's, leccy roof, leccy windows, false floor for hiding stuff in, best car I've ever had. Zero depreciation too. You can have it for £500 delivered to the next Worksop meet :D.

[Chrislong]

Thats cheap, was it a main dealer? What MPG do you get? Ive just sold my Mondeo and quite like the new ones. Is it quick?

Sorry for the thread nick ;)

Hey Ian, who is Nick?
Anyway, it was from the Car people in Wakefield, its 55reg in Silver with 38k miles for £8500 - so not what id expect to be the cheapest around, but even so it was certainly reasonable and (now I have got rid I can say) the Focus had faults I couldn;t diagnose and I was sick of it, couldn't really sell it privately if I want to sleep at night, just had to cut my losses. I managed to get £350 discounted by bartering too.

It did 55mpg on the M62 coming home from Wakefield to Bury (50 mile), would have been more like 60mpg if wasn't constantly changing speeds for lorries and would let cruise control take me home uninterupted at 75mph.

The average dropped to 48mpg sitting on drive with engine running while setting up the voice controls, bluetooth, phonebook etc.

I have done a few miles of A roadness, probably about 50, and the average dropped to 46mpg.

Tonight I have been round at Claires and so done some more motorway miles and average is back to 48mpg

The tank was not far from empty and it took £57 to fill, the range is going to be over 600 miles according to the computer. Whereas in my Focus it cost me £50-ish to fill and it would do 300 miles on average, 350 if on a long motorway journey (i.e.Belgium) per tank. Its also cheaper to Tax, and to insure. :thumbsup:

Its freekin quick, its 155bhp and 360nm of torque. Compared to the ST170 which was 172bhp and 196nm of torque. The Mondeo on paper does slower 0-60, but in reality, the in-gear speeds are far far far quicker as all the power is just at driving RPM and not at redline - although somehow it doesn't beg to be thrashed, so my license will be clean again soon.

I can't fault it on anything, it handles great, its comfy (and a lot more luxurious with so many gizmos), easier to park (as i can see the bonnet now!) and it has a tighter steering lock than the Focus. I wish id chosen it to begin with!!!!!

The Mondeo ST Tdci is same power, but has less toys and same suspension, but seems to be a little more expensive for equivalent Titanium X. So by choosing the Tit X I got more for less.

I was originally looking for a Fiesta Zetec S Tdci til I stumbled accross a Mondeo Titanium X at Availablecar.com in Nottingham. The Fiesta's just aren;t depreciating so wasn;t finding any bargains, the same money for the Mondeo is far more justifiable.

Chris

[Southwell]

Nick is me stealing Lee's thread, i thought that when i re-read it but couldn't think of the write word :lol:

Cheers for that Chris, it sounds really good, especially the engine. Mines almost 5 years old now so the diesel engine is fairly weak, loud and uneconomical, being the older style engine, but it has served me well. I hate my mrs' Focus so if she doesn't mind a bigger car we could just go for a newer Mondeo, although i wont hold my breathe :woot:
I have looked at the Fiestas too and they are very expensive compared to what you can get in the larger family style cars, which kinda puts me off buying a small cars with the way things are.

Anyway that gives me food for thought, cheers.

[Chrislong]

Well id recommend one of these to anyone. Ive been nothing but impressed since I picked it up.

[mobile chicane]

bizarley I can fit a large weekly shop in the back of my s2000.

it also takes all my rc gear apart from my old style pit table although if I got one of those sectional camping tables it would fit.

then I do have my works transit connect with free private miles to lug stuff about in or the wenches mk1 focus to tow my track bike and take the olds out in.


I may concider a new mondeo to replace the focus when it finaly has to go in about 4 yrs time its the wenches car though so it 'll be up to her.


I used to have a 1.8 passat non turbo, that was nice :)

[Northy]

Big cars are ACE :thumbsup:

It's like driving in your arm chair :woot:

G

[Southwell]

Thats exactly what i love about them, their so comfortable, driving the focus is like sitting in two planks of wood lined with 1mm of foam :woot:

[Lee]

I like sports seats, uncomfortable is ace, some one please back me up :blush:


Chris, you will just find yourself travelling everywhere at 90-100 mph without even knowing it ;)

[stegger]

I like sports seats, uncomfortable is ace, some one please back me up :blush:


Chris, you will just find yourself travelling everywhere at 90-100 mph without even knowing it ;)
Can't agree with you lee i have to grease the sides to get into them :woot::p

[Lee]

thats not what i was looking for, im trying to justify some expenditure here :(

[Chris Doughty]

I like sports seats, uncomfortable is ace, some one please back me up :blush:


Chris, you will just find yourself travelling everywhere at 90-100 mph without even knowing it ;)

uncomfortable is ACE! I am with you on this one Lee,

driving a car should be about driving, the more uncomfortable the seat the more feedback you get from the car :thumbsup: - the harder you can go!

punch it!

[Lee]

cheers chris i knew i could count on you to provide a manly response.

7 hours till the baby arrives :thumbsup:

[Chris Doughty]

what is it?

I can't count mine down in hours yet, its still in days... :bored:

[Lee]

360 spider :blush:

[Chris Doughty]

get in! :thumbsup:

lets race :p

[GRIFF55]

uncomfortable is ACE! I am with you on this one Lee,

driving a car should be about driving, the more uncomfortable the seat the more feedback you get from the car :thumbsup: - the harder you can go!

punch it!


I'm with you here too!!! My only problem with punch it is that there are no marshalls to flip me over again:woot:. Still, no harm in trying!!! Had a courtesy car out yesterday while mine was serviced, i don't want non sporty seats(or car) ever again.
What colour lee, or is that a daft question?

[Lee]

i just want to be able to go round corners sideways with a cloud of smoke behind me, you know like they do on top gear, and then ill go and pay £1000 for 2 new rear tyres :(

[Chris Doughty]

speaking of non-sports seats, the most hilarious thing I have seen was when the Stig did a fast lap of the TG track in a tracktor, he slide off the side of the seat going round a corner.... so funny.

and there was another one where someone ended up in the passenger seat while taking a corner in another program, cant remember the details... but that was funny as...

[stegger]

I'm with you here too!!! My only problem with punch it is that there are no marshalls to flip me over again:woot:. Still, no harm in trying!!! Had a courtesy car out yesterday while mine was serviced, i don't want non sporty seats(or car) ever again.
What colour lee, or is that a daft question?
Probably be yellow! which will make it a bit slower;)

[Lee]

I'm with you here too!!! My only problem with punch it is that there are no marshalls to flip me over again:woot:. Still, no harm in trying!!! Had a courtesy car out yesterday while mine was serviced, i don't want non sporty seats(or car) ever again.
What colour lee, or is that a daft question?


Rosso red :thumbsup:

[GRIFF55]

MARSHALL!!!! :p (For the sideways sliding bit)

[Lee]

speaking of non-sports seats, the most hilarious thing I have seen was when the Stig did a fast lap of the TG track in a tracktor, he slide off the side of the seat going round a corner.... so funny.

and there was another one where someone ended up in the passenger seat while taking a corner in another program, cant remember the details... but that was funny as...


A lad i knew from school crashed his car and ended up in the passanger seat, the police were looking for the driver until he came round andd told them it was him driving :lol:

[Chris Doughty]

there is a big prop shaft that limits the ability to do that in my car-to-be

[Lee]

at least you have less chance of dieing when you get a little too excited, you can only die by going into a corner too fast, i can die coming out too :thumbsup:

[Chris Doughty]

are you claiming that my car does not have enough pony? grrr :p

[Lee]

actually i had a bit of brain fade, i thought the rx8 was FWD for some reason :(

[Chris Doughty]

FWD with a prop shaft?

are you thinking of some new drivetrain format?

rear engine front wheel drive? new front tires every 3 miles :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

If anybody wants uncomfortable, I have some Corbeau Forzasport 2000 seats in a box at home somewhere. They were hardly used, and were a tad uncomfortable in a Mini with full race suspension..... but it was so uncomfortable it was ace!!!

Yeh with the Mondeo, it makes no fuss about it so its easy to let the MPH climb. Although im getting into the habit of setting cruise at something sensible, warm my bum, and just glance at the road every few minutes incase it needs pointing in another direction. :lol:

Im wondering about Bluefin for it, up the BHP by 30 and the NM by about 50, and it'll be even more economical! :thumbsup:

[Northy]

Lee-Fag ---- Retard :woot:

[Chrislong]

FWD with a prop shaft?

are you thinking of some new drivetrain format?

rear engine front wheel drive? new front tires every 3 miles :thumbsup:

That'd be so wrong! It'd be called the "Understeer special", it'd steer better with a sail on it.

[Kecky]

Hard and tight all the way for me :thumbsup:

Speaking of which, i've a brand new set of bucket seats and a brand new set of H&R Coilovers for a clio cup if anyone is interested, i sold the the clio the day after they arrived so didn't get a chance to fit them :(

[Chrislong]

I can't imagine you in a Clio, the Impreza you have is gorgeous.

Sat in one last week, had the hardest clutch ive ever pressed!

[Northy]

360 spider :blush:

Screams:

COCK :woot:

Someone had to! :thumbsup:

[stegger]

I can't imagine you in a Clio, the Impreza you have is gorgeous.

Sat in one last week, had the hardest clutch ive ever pressed!
Yeh he looked like NODDY in the clio :woot::woot::p

[Lee]

Yeah it was a BMAG moment:blush:

[Kecky]

I can't imagine you in a Clio, the Impreza you have is gorgeous.

Sat in one last week, had the hardest clutch ive ever pressed!

Cheers Chris,
When i saw the P1 i knew i had to get it, so made a quick decision to sell the clio.
The Clio was awesome to though, it handled just like a go cart :thumbsup:

[Kecky]

Yeh he looked like NODDY in the clio :woot::woot::p

Better that, than a male 'Trolly Dolly' :lol: :p

[Chrislong]

Cheers Chris,
When i saw the P1 i knew i had to get it, so made a quick decision to sell the clio.
The Clio was awesome to though, it handled just like a go cart :thumbsup:

Thats some impulse buy!! :woot: My impulse buys usually consist of a Kit kat or redbull, never both. :cry:

[Kecky]

Well.....impulse as far as, i was looking for one for a while, but struggled to find one i would buy!

Although i did impulse buy a Eunos Roadster to drive around Europe for 3 weeks in, a few years ago.........actually i got Nicky to pay, but i think she may have forgotten :thumbsup:

There's nothing like planning to drive over the Stelvio Pass, then 2 weeks before you go, decide to buy a second hand japanese import, with no history, to get there in :o It did have a roll cage though :thumbsup:

[stegger]

Better that, than a male 'Trolly Dolly' :lol: :p
You had to get rid of the clio because you kept getting beaten off the lights by a bog standard diesel focus estate :woot: and leaving half of your tyres behind:p:p:p

[Lee]

this thing is rapid, 120 comes and goes far too quickly, (from what I have read officer) ;)

[bigred5765]

this thing is rapid, 120 comes and goes far too quickly, (from what I have read officer) ;)

dont VIDEO that,:woot:

[Chris Doughty]

this thing is rapid, 120 comes and goes far too quickly, (from what I have read officer) ;)

KPH hey Lee ;) :thumbsup:

[Lee]

Of course chris, but there is no excuse for doing 160 kph, i think thats still a ban, if someone was to to that sort of speed of course :confused:

[bigred5765]

So you didnt get it out of first gear then:)