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Darren Wales
02-06-2014, 12:30 PM
Experience and ideas needed.

Bury Metro, up in the great North West of England, are looking to add further to the newly redeveloped track, with consideration for a new purpose built rostrum.

The rostrum would need to include race control, storage and also disabled access, as well as having roof cover and importantly be secure. (Don't really want kids using it as a shelter, as it's on a public park.)

What do you think the cost of build would be? Is there a current rostrum anywhere we could replicate?

If you can help with pictures or if you can share an image of what you think a quality build would look like, it would be much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Many thanks in advance.

Darren
BMRCC

janus_77
02-06-2014, 01:07 PM
This is ours :woot:

Designed and build by William himself :thumbsup:

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10365964_850022385025548_8420033920901566431_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/p480x480/10338602_848265558534564_2959329719423458316_o.jpg


room for 20 drivers
lowered railing section for the kids
room for AMB / referee (window can be closed to protect glass)
plenty of room for storage
back section is fence. So every one can see its only a few tables and shovels are stored (when it was closed we got breakins all the time, now they can see its nothing of real value)

chuckie stella
02-06-2014, 01:35 PM
Vaasa, Finland is the best I've ever used by a country mile :thumbsup:

Big G
02-06-2014, 01:38 PM
Ludlow use to have the trailer from an arctic lorry. It was really high so you could see the whole track no problem at all and big enough inside to hold race control and the sweet shop. I think it might have also hosted hot food too.

http://www.ludlowradiocarclub.co.uk/gallery/cfbda167f727187beba37ef8993e419a.jpg

Gavin Collingwood
02-06-2014, 01:41 PM
Think Vaasa may be a little out of our price range! But wow what a rostrum!

chuckie stella
02-06-2014, 02:05 PM
Think Vaasa may be a little out of our price range! But wow what a rostrum!

And most peoples :thumbsup:

Thought you might appreciate though

bretts
02-06-2014, 02:42 PM
http://media.oregonlive.com/today/photo/new-popejpg-2fff5f34831a6dec.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist :blush:

skiv
02-06-2014, 02:52 PM
West London TC track has a very good example of secure rostrum incorporating race control and storage, not sure on the disabled access but it is also in a public park.

Sorry couldn't quickly find a pic.

PaulRotheram
02-06-2014, 02:58 PM
I dont think theres much wrong with burys current rostrum? Its just a tad too close to the track, and the metal panels are noisey as fook when you walk over them.

Sort out those two problems and you could save a fair few quid.

h0m3sy
02-06-2014, 03:45 PM
This is the best one I've been on /in :thumbsup:

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/homesy74/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/C48CF07D-2197-4539-8C0B-BFAC3E45E35A_zpsywd92mde.jpg (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/homesy74/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/C48CF07D-2197-4539-8C0B-BFAC3E45E35A_zpsywd92mde.jpg.html)

chris24jt
02-06-2014, 05:52 PM
not been to many but Pendle always struck me as very good, plenty of space on top, ramp access for wheelchairs and race control underneath.
http://www.pdmcc.co.uk/index.php/media-menu/photos

johnnygibbon
02-06-2014, 05:56 PM
pendles good
robin hood raceway has two absolutey mint rostrons as well
gets my vote

Zippy G
02-06-2014, 05:56 PM
West London TC track has a very good example of secure rostrum incorporating race control and storage, not sure on the disabled access but it is also in a public park.

Sorry couldn't quickly find a pic.


http://www.wlrc.co.uk/kogp/2006/KOGP.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=_wad41599OzJdM&tbnid=EL_8j4Hb7A6A5M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wlrc.co.uk%2Fkogp%2F2006%2Fin dex.htm&ei=LrqMU_b6Jave7AaN1oDYDA&bvm=bv.67720277,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNHEKgL9JrfbhVcaDx1WELqDleTyeA&ust=1401817986835263)


They have removable steps which load into the container but if you do go there on a non meeting day you will still find kids climbing on it.

That includes mine:woot: LMAO

stumpiey
02-06-2014, 06:10 PM
thats a very old photo of west london, it has been vastly improved since that pic, best rostrum though has to be remote world at slough

Mr Satchell
02-06-2014, 07:26 PM
Nene valley raceway near santa pod has a nice looking rostrum. Secure aswell. The steps are inside the building so nobody can get on it unless the door is open. Think it's part wood part metal

RedAl
02-06-2014, 08:01 PM
From the on-road world, the REEDY race of Champions from Southern California last month had a well thought through accessible rostrum.

It has a ramped access at one end and a drop down cutout section in the middle to allow someone in a wheelchair to be able to see.

Any club who builds a new rostrum without making it fully accessible is leaving themselves wide open to a claim for disability discrimination as well as excluding a group of potential members.

http://rcinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/IMG_2927-copy.jpg

neallewis
02-06-2014, 11:29 PM
Batley's container with rostrum up top is secure.
RHR dirt is also on top of a shipping container, roof added now too. RHR astro rostrum is my preferred, with stairs up and down.

Gavin Collingwood
03-06-2014, 06:33 AM
This is the best one I've been on /in :thumbsup:

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/homesy74/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/C48CF07D-2197-4539-8C0B-BFAC3E45E35A_zpsywd92mde.jpg (http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/homesy74/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/C48CF07D-2197-4539-8C0B-BFAC3E45E35A_zpsywd92mde.jpg.html)

Something like things my vote Darren

A.R.C Raceway
04-06-2014, 07:56 PM
Go with the 2x shipping containers.
conversion is easy and are really sturdy and secure.
We have 2x 40ft's. Much cheaper than timber frame and roof.
If you are on a budget then they are the answer unless you have a small wood with a saw mill next to it...... Good luck:thumbsup:

Si Coe
04-06-2014, 08:05 PM
We already have the two shipping containers - our current 'rostrum' is some steps up to the top of said containers and some railings.
The problems are:
1) There is no roof on the rostrum
2) There is no wheelchair access
3) The noise from people walking on the rostrum is quite unbelievably loud in race control
4) Its fugly.

We could certainly use the current containers in a new construction but the idea is to go a lot better.

A.R.C Raceway
04-06-2014, 08:13 PM
Here is what I have done.
Stack them. Weld together. Then no noise.:thumbsup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gbd38fgyyt6cr4d/20140316_171946.jpg

VintageRacer
28-06-2014, 01:21 PM
The problems are:
1) There is no roof on the rostrum
2) There is no wheelchair access
3) The noise from people walking on the rostrum is quite unbelievably loud in race control
4) Its fugly.


Kidderminster use a shipping container with a wooden structure on top, extending the standing area and providing a roof. The wooden floor must reduce the noise from above as I've never noticed a noise problem inside the container. Sliding metal shutters cover the windows when not in use.

No wheelchair access as it stands but a ramp or lift would fix that. The blue tarpaulins are a temporary addition for the Nationals to reduce wind for the drivers, they are not normally there.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2012national-kidderminster/2wd/IMG_0858.jpg

sosidge
07-07-2014, 02:10 PM
Any club who builds a new rostrum without making it fully accessible is leaving themselves wide open to a claim for disability discrimination as well as excluding a group of potential members.

I'm concerned that this post will initiate unnecessary panic among club officials.

The law states that organisations need to ensure that disabled people can make use of a service that is provided, it doesn't state that they need to be able to make use of the service in the exact same way. The service in this case is being able to drive an RC car around a track.

Making a high-level rostrum fully accessible is not realistic for most clubs. However having a ramp and small, lower platform available to make sure that a disabled racer could have an unobstructed view of the track would surely be sufficient. Many tracks already have a natural "vantage point" that could be used.

I've raced at a number of clubs with disabled racers and I've never seen anything less than the maximum commitment from club officials to help the disabled racers take part, legislation or no legislation.

RedAl
07-07-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm sorry sosidge but that's simply not accurate.

I completely understand the difficulties that clubs face, I'm part of the committee of my local club myself.

In my experience the RC community is fantastic. The race organisers will usually do anything and everything that they can within the confines of what they have available to them and I am always appreciative of the efforts people make.

However, the legislation states that it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of disability, this includes the standard of service which is provided to the disabled person or the manner in which it is provided.

In the case of an RC venue the question to be asked would be "If a rostrum is necessary why is it not necessary for everybody ?"

The legal test would always be one of "What is reasonable?"

For many venues such adaptations may well be considered unreasonable. However if any club is building new rostrum facilities then they would be as negligent to ignore discrimination legislation as they would health & safety.

If anyone would like any advice or input from a wheelchair user I'd be happy to help in any way I can.

Darren Wales
07-07-2014, 11:35 PM
Redal,

I started this thread to see what is cosidered to be the best rostrum, but with the key theme being it needed to be one which in the IDEAL world, we all would envisage.
You are quite right to mention the disabled access issue and whilst I am not a disabled driver, I am more than aware of the needs of such a racer and wish to make clear that on any new rostrum built at bury it will be one that provides the SAME vantage point for all competitors.
I would do this as it is only right, proper and fair to do so!

Darren

RedAl
08-07-2014, 11:20 AM
Fair play to you for taking that approach Darren. If you'd like any advice please feel free to get in touch.