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Bungleaio
28-10-2008, 02:01 PM
I'm planning on picking up an x11 08 asap but I've got a couple of queries if anyone can help please.

For spares I'm planning on all wishbones, front and rear hubs, ball joints, drive shaft blades, diff rings and front wing. Is there anything else I should pick up, crown wheels?

I'm exclusively Lipo now I'm just wondering are the trakpowers 3200's are a direct fit? They fitted in my B44 with no issues so I should imagine they will.

I've picked up a futaba 9551 servo and when I spoke to Lewis he said he can supply the relevant fixings for it, but is there anything else I need for the car/to do?

It's been a long time since I ran a pred, hopefully its a bit more reliable than my last.

Thanks all.

AndyM
28-10-2008, 02:09 PM
Hi mate,

Spares list sounds good; i'd get a crown wheel aswell, just incase.

I can't give any advice on lipos as i haven't tried them yet...Niggs will probably post something about that.

They are very reliable, robust cars.

Enjoy :thumbsup:
Andy

spenner
28-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Hi,

First of all i think you have made a wise purchase!!!

Have run my X11 08 3 times and the car is awesome!!!!

Depending on how hard you are on the car, will depend what spares you will need....
But for safety:

Wishbones (These are pretty solid)
Balljoints (Weakest part that i have found, and that was head on collision)
Front bumper
Spring tuning kit
Screws (always lose these)
Spur gears
One way shaft
Diff gears (make sure you run them in and add small amount of lube to gear. Then shim them)
X10 Front rockers

Make sure you loctite everything in....
The current setup we are running is the Kev Lee setup.

Not too many major changes..
35wt in the front Yellow Springs
Extra 57 hole drilled

30wt in the rear Red Spring and compensator spring
Extra 57 hole drilled

Front bumper dremmelled down to allow for better landing clearance.
Rear wing mounted as far forward as possible.

With regard lipo you are better off speaking to Nathan Ralls (Niggs98) as he has tested these.
Im sure there will be a Kev Lee setup on here very soon if not already.

Bungleaio
28-10-2008, 02:27 PM
Nice one cheers guys. With regard to the x10 rockers, I thought this should be sorted in the 08 version?

footey
28-10-2008, 04:28 PM
lipos dont fit straight in u goyya move battery posts and

niggs98
28-10-2008, 05:09 PM
as shane says, lipos saddles arnt quite a direct fit, if someone can tell me how to post pics i will show you how to move the posts as its very simple, i have track power 3200's in mine. only other spare i would add to the list is a spur gear, they are fine but i always carry one just in case

rcracer
28-10-2008, 05:15 PM
if you want to send me the pics nath i will put them on your post

rcracer
28-10-2008, 05:35 PM
http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=860

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=861

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=862

footey
28-10-2008, 05:44 PM
i belive that with the standard style servo u have to move the servo aswell :)

niggs98
28-10-2008, 05:45 PM
http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=860
my car complete with trackpower 3200's, half height servo, tekin rspro and redline 5.5 motor

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=861
after talking to lewis and northy all i did was to move the front post just behind its original mount and then bring the battery strap straight back to allow for the extra lenth of the lipo. i have used my own version of thumbsrew style mount on the front but on the back i have had to use the kit mount due to the proximity to the half height servo, the thumb screw also allows you to clamp the lipo down nice and tight if you want to

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=862
i used a standard battery strap double sided on the centre spine to space the lipo away from the propshaft. note that i have had to trim it down slightly to allow room for the hole for the sensor wire on the side shown due to the old ariel mount.

any questions feel free to ask

Bungleaio
28-10-2008, 08:32 PM
Bugger I didn't realise they wouldn't fit as standard. Thanks for the photos mate, they help but I've got another coupe of questions.

1. It looks like the rear mounts are the standard ones but the front ones are the tubes the ones used to hold the motor mount?

2. What do you use on the threads to hold the straps down, is it a case of bolting the batteries in every time?

3. Will the standard straps fit once the posts have been moved?

Cheers mate

niggs98
28-10-2008, 09:18 PM
Bugger I didn't realise they wouldn't fit as standard. Thanks for the photos mate, they help but I've got another coupe of questions.

1. It looks like the rear mounts are the standard ones but the front ones are the tubes the ones used to hold the motor mount?

2. What do you use on the threads to hold the straps down, is it a case of bolting the batteries in every time?

3. Will the standard straps fit once the posts have been moved?

Cheers mate

1. front ones are the alloy tubes off another pred. if you phone lewis at the shop ( 01304 374742 ) he will be able to send them to you.

2. i use a metric thumbscrew or a m3 nyloc nut so yes it needs bolting down each time

3 i use the standard straps on mine so yes they fit lol

4. you can use standard posts in the standard positions and the lipos will fit but it requires a lot of dremmeling on both the posts and the chassis hence me shifting the posts. You can use the standard posts, i just personally prefer to be able to clamp my cells down as tight as possible (personal preferance and not nessesary)

Bungleaio
28-10-2008, 09:53 PM
Nice one cheers mate, I'll make sure I order a couple of the tubes when I order the car, which will hopefully be very soon as I'm booked in for worksop and I'm currently without a car!

One last question though, the rocker pivots, are the x10 ones required or is that problem sorted on the 08?

Tom3012
29-10-2008, 02:47 AM
I agree with all thats been said by everyone else :thumbsup:...

I have also run the track power lipos in my car and did do some modding.. ill post some pics of how i did mine and explain it as best i can.. i only needed a hotbodies cyclone servo mount for mine too :woot:

Cooper
29-10-2008, 06:24 AM
http://www.the-pred.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=318.msg3153#new
http://www.geocities.com/merichards/Buggy/DSCF0580.jpg

niggs98
29-10-2008, 07:49 AM
Nice one cheers mate, I'll make sure I order a couple of the tubes when I order the car, which will hopefully be very soon as I'm booked in for worksop and I'm currently without a car!

One last question though, the rocker pivots, are the x10 ones required or is that problem sorted on the 08?

you have a pm :D

Bungleaio
29-10-2008, 09:45 PM
Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll let you know how I get on when I get the car

Tom3012
30-10-2008, 02:12 AM
heres how i did mine.. about half way down the page... if you want some more pics/info on how i did mine just let me know... (excuse the wiring, its a bit messy)

http://www.the-pred.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=318.45

niggs98
04-11-2008, 08:09 AM
heres how i did mine.. about half way down the page... if you want some more pics/info on how i did mine just let me know... (excuse the wiring, its a bit messy)

http://www.the-pred.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=318.45

looks very neat on the mounting tom, i assume that you made your own straps tho, although i do like how you got around not having to move your servo, i did mine using as many stock parts as possible so that it makes it easier for peeps to copy at the mo ;)

Tom3012
04-11-2008, 10:58 PM
looks very neat on the mounting tom, i assume that you made your own straps tho, although i do like how you got around not having to move your servo, i did mine using as many stock parts as possible so that it makes it easier for peeps to copy at the mo ;)

Thanks, wires are really messy though in the pic :p (tidy now)

I did make the straps myself, but these are very simple to do (could even use 3mm plastic to cut cost)

Only thing that i had to do was buy some hotbodies servo mounts and make the new straps...

I think i might make some new straps though, some that are a bit thicker and cover more of the battery...

Looking foward to saturday, although i need to get my hands on a low profile servo :cry:

Bungleaio
16-11-2008, 07:44 PM
Well the car arrived about 10 days ago and after some problems with the post I received the servo mounts late last week.

I wanted to sort out mouting the electrics and do all the associated drilling before building the car but the waiting got the better of me and I cracked on with the build and sorted the holes at the end, it all worked out ok in the end anyway although the 1st set of holes I drilled for the battery straps were perfect until I realised that once I'd countersunk them there would be no material left.

Some photos -

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/Bungleaio/x11/16112008867.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/Bungleaio/x11/16112008862.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/Bungleaio/x11/16112008863.jpg

I am going to try and pick up a better servo horn, the one I've got on it is a fastrax one that I've cut down. I also need the x10 rockers but they are out of stock at the moment.

Thoroughly enjoyable car to build, I hope it goes as well as it looks.

Has anyone got any setup tips for worksop as next week will be it's 1st outing?

super__dan
16-11-2008, 10:00 PM
Those fastrax horns are really good it it's the ones that have a metal ring round the spline, just need to dremel the shape to smooth it out. KO do the same thing but slightly more expensive and BLACK which always looks best.

AndyM
17-11-2008, 06:54 AM
car looks great mate.
i haven't actually been to Worksop with mine yet, but Nathan Ralls (Niggs) and a few others have, so they should be able to point you in the right direction.

For set up, i'd start with Kev Lee's set up; so far it's worked fairly well everywhere i've tried it..
http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=173135&postcount=54

EDIT: Or Nathan's Worksop set up?
http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost.php?p=168862&postcount=51

Hope this helps,
Andy

niggs98
17-11-2008, 07:54 AM
saves me even replying lol. im on kevs setup at the moment as it feels safe and fast ;)

Bungleaio
17-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Thanks guys, I think I need to order some springs and roll bars.

turbo_brick
24-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Hope you enjoyed the car yesterday at worksop.

When I get time I'll write my full lipo setup out and you can give it a go like that.

Peter

Bungleaio
24-11-2008, 05:17 PM
Your help yesterday was fantastic mate thank you very much, the car was certainly better after you tweaked it.

I can't believe how lucky I was to be able to get the snapped rocker pin out without damaging the cross brace, I checked the price when I got home, 30 for a replacement, ouch.

When my driving wasn't letting the side down the car was great, hopefully next time I can do the car more justice next time.

andys
25-11-2008, 10:10 PM
Sorry to ask what must look like a dumb question, but what's the difference with an X11 versus and X11 08 ? Just looked on the website and there's no mention of on '08' model just the pricing for the regular X11 ?

Also, how much is the X11 08 ?

Cheers.

AndyM
25-11-2008, 10:27 PM
Hi Andy,

The X11 08 is the kit with all the developments the team has made this year already included in the box.
so, for example, buying an '08' car you wouldn't need to seperatly buy the big bore shocks because they are included in the kit.

Sorry, i don't know a price.

any more questions, just ask :).

HTH
Andy

ben
25-11-2008, 10:47 PM
What other development parts are in the 08 kit apart from the big bore shocks?:confused:

Ben

turbo_brick
25-11-2008, 10:52 PM
From what I can remember:

New shocks
New front upper arms for more castor
New pivots for front rockers
New Rear carbon parts with different shock mounting positions.

I'm sure there's others but I can't remember what they are

Peter

mattym0310
26-11-2008, 06:55 AM
lunsford Ti M4 turnbuckles on the uper wishbones to replace the cheesey ones :D

niggs98
26-11-2008, 08:03 AM
i must be geting slow in my old age as missed this one lol. as the lads have said the x11-08 is a kit with all the developments that have been done through the year by the team so that no upgrades are needed. it will cost aprox 400 so no increase on the x11 :thumbsup:

Bungleaio
26-11-2008, 09:29 AM
As far as I know only the new shocks, front arms and turnbuckles are the unly upgrades, the wheels are black now too.

The pivots are still the same as well as the rear carbon towers.

The Kit costs 340 and assuming Xtreme honour the 15% VAT from monday it will cost you a total of 391, a whole 9 less than I paid.

restimax
26-11-2008, 11:27 AM
From what I can remember:

New shocks
New front upper arms for more castor
New pivots for front rockers
New Rear carbon parts with different shock mounting positions.

I'm sure there's others but I can't remember what they are

Peter
this parts are listed in the shop?
for the rear carbon parts it's possible use the old and re-drilled it?
thanks.

Mabuchi_Johnson_Lee
26-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Reedy came out with a new saddle pack LiPo with 35C rating, wonder will it fit into the Pred without any mod.

http://www.redrc.net/category/products/page/4/

big_boss
27-11-2008, 03:57 AM
Hi
It probably will not fit under the body, being 28 mm tall. The trackPower 4800 mAh is 30 mm tall & doesn't fit, so...:wub