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bretts
07-09-2014, 02:01 PM
Hi all,
I see in the ZX6 manual that the diff gear is still part no LA200 but the bevel gear is now black and part number LA372.
I was wondering if anyone knows if the new bevel gear is the same size as the old one and can be used on the ZX5??
Both are 16 tooth so I assume they might fit, as the white ones are a bit of a weak point.
Can anyone help? (one for you RogerM, please)
Thanks
Brett
Yes, they are the same size. I believe this is the same process Kyosho made with the 2WD, making the idler gear more resistent by using a better black plastic.
bretts
07-09-2014, 02:59 PM
Thanks Gayo, As I thought...
Time to get some ordered then ;)
RogerM
08-09-2014, 11:31 AM
Additionally you can transplant the whole of the ZX6 pinion assembly in to the ZX5 gear case, I've done this to my DB2.
This gives you a steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft too = bullet proof!
As for the white ones being a weak point it is only when people didn't shim them properly, there must be ZERO fore/aft play on the pinion shaft. I often ended up with 2 shims behind the pinion after the bearings / bearing carrier had bedded in.
Hope that helps
dMITIj
30-12-2014, 08:53 AM
Additionally you can transplant the whole of the ZX6 pinion assembly in to the ZX5 gear case, I've done this to my DB2.
This gives you a steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft too = bullet proof!
As for the white ones being a weak point it is only when people didn't shim them properly, there must be ZERO fore/aft play on the pinion shaft. I often ended up with 2 shims behind the pinion after the bearings / bearing carrier had bedded in.
Hope that helps
Do you have part nr for the shims and the steel pinion shaft?
RogerM
30-12-2014, 12:42 PM
Not off the top of my head, not memorised the ZX6 parts yet but the manual is online.
As for the shims they are just the shock 5mm ID shims like those fitted as standard and to the axles.
dMITIj
30-12-2014, 02:41 PM
Not off the top of my head, not memorised the ZX6 parts yet but the manual is online.
As for the shims they are just the shock 5mm ID shims like those fitted as standard and to the axles.
Thanks for the shim info. but i can't seem to find the steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft (ore i wanna be 100% sure that i get the right ones as i have to order overseas)
RogerM
30-12-2014, 04:30 PM
Manual is here
http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/instructionmanual/buggy/pdf/30046_LAZER_ZX6_IM.pdf
parts list here
http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/instructionmanual/buggy/pdf/30046_LAZER_ZX6_SPOP.pdf
Parts you are looking for are listed on page 15, step 8 in the manual
input cup = LA365
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA365
input shaft = LA366
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA366
SP bevel gear = LA372 (includes 2 gears)
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA372
1 pack of each of the first two and half a pack of LA372 per gearbox.
HTH
InsideLineModels
30-12-2014, 04:33 PM
Thanks for the shim info. but i can't seem to find the steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft (ore i wanna be 100% sure that i get the right ones as i have to order overseas)
These are the bits you are after I think?
Drive Cup - ZX6
http://insidelineracing.co.uk/inside-line-shop/spares/kyosho-spares/kyosho-rb5-6-zx5-spares/drive-cup-zx6-p
Bevel Gear Shaft
http://insidelineracing.co.uk/inside-line-shop/spares/kyosho-spares/kyosho-rb5-6-zx5-spares/drive-bevel-gear-shaft-zx6-p
Hope this helps
Kev
dMITIj
30-12-2014, 08:50 PM
Additionally you can transplant the whole of the ZX6 pinion assembly in to the ZX5 gear case, I've done this to my DB2.
This gives you a steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft too = bullet proof!
As for the white ones being a weak point it is only when people didn't shim them properly, there must be ZERO fore/aft play on the pinion shaft. I often ended up with 2 shims behind the pinion after the bearings / bearing carrier had bedded in.
Hope that helps
Manual is here
http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/instructionmanual/buggy/pdf/30046_LAZER_ZX6_IM.pdf
parts list here
http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/support/instructionmanual/buggy/pdf/30046_LAZER_ZX6_SPOP.pdf
Parts you are looking for are listed on page 15, step 8 in the manual
input cup = LA365
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA365
input shaft = LA366
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA366
SP bevel gear = LA372 (includes 2 gears)
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=KYO-LA372
1 pack of each of the first two and half a pack of LA372 per gearbox.
HTH
These are the bits you are after I think?
Drive Cup - ZX6
http://insidelineracing.co.uk/inside-line-shop/spares/kyosho-spares/kyosho-rb5-6-zx5-spares/drive-cup-zx6-p
Bevel Gear Shaft
http://insidelineracing.co.uk/inside-line-shop/spares/kyosho-spares/kyosho-rb5-6-zx5-spares/drive-bevel-gear-shaft-zx6-p
Hope this helps
Kev
Thanks for the replys guys.
what im looking for is "This gives you a steel input cup and a steel pinion shaft too = bullet proof!" i don't like plastic when it comes to the drivetraine/diffs so i want to make it "bullet proof" so to speak :)
I just got the kit and the gear diff's and some other stuff today (thanks Kev/insidelineracing) but i did not have the chance to look at it as im working :thumbdown: :thumbsup:
the problem is I have not found anything on the Internet regarding what parts are metal and what parts is plastic.
RogerM
31-12-2014, 02:16 PM
If you have the Kyosho gear diffs I believe they ship with a single piece input gear/shaft rather than an assembly as per the standard ball diff install.
I say believe as I am yet to see the LAW50 in person , I'm really not a gear diff fan so haven't got hold of any.
Fozzy1989
31-12-2014, 03:14 PM
If you have the Kyosho gear diffs I believe they ship with a single piece input gear/shaft rather than an assembly as per the standard ball diff install.
I say believe as I am yet to see the LAW50 in person , I'm really not a gear diff fan so haven't got hold of any.
I have the gear diffs and Roger is right it is a single piece input shaft so just needs the cup for the drive shaft installing.
Chris
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