brca and Scotland

[mark christopher]

So if its a yes vote will it be effected? Or will we see a srca? what about all Scottish clubs that are currently BRCA clubs?

I know any nationalality can be a brca member.

[neallewis]

So if its a yes vote will it be effected? Or will we see a srca?

I know any nationalality can be a brca member.

They will surely have to form a Scottish association, and apply for EFRA Membership. I imagine the timing of this won't allow for a Scottish entry to the 2015 Euros at RHR?

[DCM]

That is an interesting question, I am guessing that if they do vote yes, I am sure there will be a prolonged negotiation between Westminster and Hollyrood before Scotland formally becomes an independent state, so I think you will be fine for a couple of years!!

[discothesnake]

Don't think it'll make much difference. Just apply to join BRCA like the Irish boys do. Only difference will be no F grading and will not be able to attend EOS Finals.

(I think) 😁

[mark christopher]

Don't think it'll make much difference. Just apply to join BRCA like the Irish boys do. Only difference will be no F grading and will not be able to attend EOS Finals.

(I think) ��


so what about all Scottish clubs that are currently BRCA clubs?

[Burty248]

As it is the B(ritish)RCA could it serve both countries. If scotland leaves they would still be in Britain just not the Uk or whatever we will be called by then.

Would be a bit of an admin nightmare but with scotland having a smaller rc industry without the brca I don't think they would do very well.

[discothesnake]

Not sure how the club level racing would pan out. It's all wait and see I suppose. If the Yes vote goes through we've got bigger worries than model car racing.

[MiCk B.]

Don't think it'll make much difference. Just apply to join BRCA like the Irish boys do. Only difference will be no F grading and will not be able to attend EOS Finals.

(I think) 😁

Hi,

Ireland has it's own national body (RCCAOI / www.rccaoi.com) which is affiliated to EFRA. Similar set-up to the BRCA and other national bodies. The RCCAOI applies to EFRA for international (Euros / Worlds) places.

MiCk B. :-)

[SlowOne]

Surely we have something better to do? Never in the field of RC endeavour has so much time be wasted by so many on so few. Give it a rest...

[mark christopher]

As it is the B(ritish)RCA could it serve both countries. If scotland leaves they would still be in Britain just not the Uk or whatever we will be called by then.

Would be a bit of an admin nightmare but with scotland having a smaller rc industry without the brca I don't think they would do very well.

But they would not be part of Britain, hence my question, as I did know what the b stands for

[mark christopher]

Surely we have something better to do? Never in the field of RC endeavour has so much time be wasted by so many on so few. Give it a rest...

Its a perfectly fair question, I'm just curious how many little things like this will be effected.

[neallewis]

Its a perfectly fair question, I'm just curious how many little things like this will be effected.

Agreed. Paul Worsley will know.

[Burty248]

But they would not be part of Britain, hence my question, as I did know what the b stands for

They will still be in Britain (the island), the UK is the country

[DCM]

They won't be Britain, they will be Scotland, as Britain will be made up of Wales, Northern Ireland and England.....

[Burty248]

They won't be Britain, they will be Scotland, as Britain will be made up of Wales, Northern Ireland and England.....

I think you have guys have confused my point. :confused:

Great Britain is the name of the largest island in the British isles, the island England, Scotland and Wales sit on. Occasionally it gets used to describe the Sovereign state of the United Kingdom, which i see is where you may have misunderstood me.

But anyway named as the BRCA and not the UKRCA could it still serve scotland along with the rest of Britain?

There is no way scotland can leave Great Britain unless they somehow manage tow scotland with all the boats they got. Perhaps they could move somewhere a bit warmer? :p

[DCM]

There is no way scotland can leave Great Britain unless they somehow manage tow scotland with all the boats they got. Perhaps they could move somewhere a bit warmer? :p

They would ALL burn if they had sunshine!!

[mark christopher]

I think you have guys have confused my point. :confused:

Great Britain is the name of the largest island in the British isles, the island England, Scotland and Wales sit on. Occasionally it gets used to describe the Sovereign state of the United Kingdom, which i see is where you may have misunderstood me.

But anyway named as the BRCA and not the UKRCA could it still serve scotland along with the rest of Britain?

There is no way scotland can leave Great Britain unless they somehow manage tow scotland with all the boats they got. Perhaps they could move somewhere a bit warmer? :p

Hmm technically we are joined to France, seem odd how British companies are not thinking along your lines.

[h0m3sy]

I thought this was supposed to be an RC RACING FORUM?

[mark christopher]

I thought this was supposed to be an RC RACING FORUM?

Its also a general section and the question was relating to brca?:confused:

[h0m3sy]

If it's bothering you that much Mark, why don't you email the BRCA directly? Perhaps you could then post their official response on here. Otherwise, all that's going to happen is everyone suddenly thinking they have a degree in politics and posting what they think should happen. Just a thought.

[Burty248]

I thought this was supposed to be an RC RACING FORUM?


Why is there so much hate over this discussion, if you are not interested in the future of the BRCA if there was a yes vote on thursday go do somthing else.

[Donutt]

The Kingdom of Great Britain is a conceptual country, formed by the Act of Union in 1707, which included Scotland, England and Wales. In 1801, the then Irish government joined this Kingdom, and it became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The name changed again in 1922 when the Republic was formed and "UK" changed its name to put "Northern Ireland" in instead of "Ireland".

So, the UK, and Great Britain, are one and the same, and they are defined by a union, an alliance between constituent countries. If/When Scotland, or any of the other member country, decides to leave that union, then the union is redefined.

The land mass doesn't define Great Britain. A contract does.

So if Scotland leaves the UK, the landmass defined as Scotland, is no longer part of "Great Britain".

[orinoco]

Why is there so much hate over this discussion, if you are not interested in the future of the BRCA if there was a yes vote on thursday go do somthing else.

Why would the future of the BRCA change if there was a Yes vote?

[sosidge]

The Kingdom of Great Britain is a conceptual country, formed by the Act of Union in 1707, which included Scotland, England and Wales. In 1801, the then Irish government joined this Kingdom, and it became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The name changed again in 1922 when the Republic was formed and "UK" changed its name to put "Northern Ireland" in instead of "Ireland".

So, the UK, and Great Britain, are one and the same, and they are defined by a union, an alliance between constituent countries. If/When Scotland, or any of the other member country, decides to leave that union, then the union is redefined.

The land mass doesn't define Great Britain. A contract does.

So if Scotland leaves the UK, the landmass defined as Scotland, is no longer part of "Great Britain".

Great Britain is the island that includes England, Scotland and Wales.

Ireland is the island that includes The Republic of ireland and Northern Ireland.

So geographically, Great Britain is always going to be Great Britain.

The United Kingdom is the political creation. And this is why you will find references to "Great Britain and Northern Ireland" in certain contexts as Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain. Although the names associated with the UK are so complicated that we do tend to be casual about them which is why Great Britain is often assumed to be the same entity.

PS Alex Salmond has been conspicuously avoiding the debate on the affiliation of RC racers, I suspect he realises that the passions roused by pride in the BRCA that could throw the "Yes" campaign into disarray.

[Burty248]

Why would the future of the BRCA change if there was a Yes vote?

The BRCA is the UK's governing body of rc cars, if scotland leave the UK will it have to change? Thats the point Mark was asking, will it have to change and what to?

[h0m3sy]

The actual date for Scottish independence should there be a yes vote on Thursday is not till the 24th of March 2016. Plenty of time to sort things out, IF there is a yes vote. Let's wait and see.

[orinoco]

I had noticed this too Sosidge.....lol.

"PS Alex Salmond has been conspicuously avoiding the debate on the affiliation of RC racers, I suspect he realises that the passions roused by pride in the BRCA that could throw the "Yes" campaign into disarray."

The only thing I would see changing is the omission of the Scottish regional bits. As h0m3sy says, we will wait and see, it may be a No vote.

Col.

[KennyClark]

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

[Karting]

If Scotland becomes there own country, it wont be this week (even if it passes).

They plan to if voted in be a seperate country March 2016

[Conrad]

Well there was an SRCA before but it was purely for the organization of the Regional Touring Car series when tourers were still the big thing up here. Unlike you guys down south we only really have enough drivers for one large regional (national) series for one type of car at a time.

[Neil Skull]

Mark it wont affect the name or anyone who is racing in Britain except it may affect the Scottish.
If the BRCA chair decide then it could be that Scotland is excluded from the membership. That really depends on how they feel about The scenario.
Its the same for the pound the national Health etc etc. Scotland could still be included in all but if the powers in charge of those see an excuse to improve the rest of Britain by doing so they will. or maybe if they hold a grudge!!!
Looking at percentage of Scots v Health issues i think the national health could well be pulled from Scotland.

[mark christopher]

Sorted, question answered

[Donutt]

for now... ;)

[discothesnake]

For our lifetime.

Common sense prevailed.

[traffman]

Thank God.

[SlowOne]

So, let's move on...

If the Westminster machine has promised to devolve more powers to Scotland, then what powers are the Exec going to devolve to the Scottish Clubs? Will they get the power to use their own lap-counting systems, set up their own PL insurance, or have additional fee-raising powers?

Or am I just mistaking you all for people who give a damn...?!!! :lol:

[mutoid]

What i want to know is when us people living in england get a vote to keep or kick Scotland:)

[traffman]

Thats friendly! I voted no . Born in Surrey , but ive lived in Scotland 31 years.

[h0m3sy]

I think this thread can be closed now as they OP asked what would happen regarding the BRCA should Scotland go independent. We now know that will not be the case so it will not affect the BRCA.

[SlowOne]

Not so fast! I want to know what the Devo Max option is for Scotland under the BRCA. Come on, I don't think some of you are taking this seriously!! :rolleyes: