Nanno tech for club racing?

[dwp102]

are they allowed for club racing? or do they invalidate the BRCA insurance for that also?

[dazp83]

Fine to use at a club meeting but not at a national event, for 1/10 anyway. No rules for 1/8 apart from has to be 4s.

[mark christopher]

Not actually allowed at any brca sanctioned event

[alex97]

same price http://www.giantshark.co.uk/product/171821/gens-ace-4800mah-74v-1s3p-25c-car-pack-saddle-pack and is allowed by BRCA so id get them.

[dwp102]

Does BRCA sanctioned event include club racing then?

[Joe_K]

No, it doesn't include club racing. You're free to use them for club racing. Every club I race at has a lot of guys using Nano-techs. Just regionals/nationals/other BRCA 'official' events that don't allow them as they're not homologated (on the list).

[dwp102]

Why is the BRCA insurance not invalidated then for club racing?

[mark christopher]

Read general rules and the bit about insurance in the hand book all covered in there

[dwp102]

I just dont see how nanno tech can be covered for insurance purposes at club racing and not at brca sanctioned events that is all

[Peakey]

They just haven't been sent to the BRCA to be tested that's all it comes down to

[dwp102]

Yes but that doesn't explain why they are covered under the BRCA insurance for club racing and not for BRCA sanctioned events...

[Team 36]

Hi I use them at club level but I was told yesterday as from next season you can only use brca one's what are on there website also been advice to wait for the new list to come as they could be on there so I'm just going to wait and see !!

[DCM]

Yes but that doesn't explain why they are covered under the BRCA insurance for club racing and not for BRCA sanctioned events...

The homologation list by no means tie you in to the BRCA Insurance, your club ensuring that they follow ALL the rules laid down in the General Rules section of the handbook is what covers members (in what is laid out in the insurance policy).

You are free to run whatever battery you want at a non-sanctioned BRCA event (as stated, regional/national etc). My only advice would be to ensure that you buy from a reputable UK seller.

[mark christopher]

Hi I use them at club level but I was told yesterday as from next season you can only use brca one's what are on there website also been advice to wait for the new list to come as they could be on there so I'm just going to wait and see !!

The homologation list by no means tie you in to the BRCA Insurance, your club ensuring that they follow ALL the rules laid down in the General Rules section of the handbook is what covers members (in what is laid out in the insurance policy).

You are free to run whatever battery you want at a non-sanctioned BRCA event (as stated, regional/national etc). My only advice would be to ensure that you buy from a reputable UK seller.


your nearly correct DCM, if the club decides to run to the BRCA lists as Team36 has pointed out, then it is not just BRCA meetings

[DCM]

My statement is factually correct, if your local club chooses to only allow batteries from the BRCA list, that is a club rule NOT a BRCA rule, and for one, would query the reason for this as by no means does a battery being on the list make it any 'safer' than one not on the list, as, to be transported, they ALL have to be certified to the same NATO regulations.

[dwp102]

So does that mean that the BRCA approved list is farcical then? if it is not for insurance purposes?

[Si Coe]

Not at all - in theory it means that the cells have been tested and found to operate within certain parameters that are considered acceptable for safe, fair racing.

What is more important is to understand that something NOT being on the list in no way means its unsafe or cheating - it just means its never been submitted for testing.

[mark christopher]

My statement is factually correct, if your local club chooses to only allow batteries from the BRCA list, that is a club rule NOT a BRCA rule, and for one, would query the reason for this as by no means does a battery being on the list make it any 'safer' than one not on the list, as, to be transported, they ALL have to be certified to the same NATO regulations.

there is always the chance that brca could apply a rule that all members use the list to be insured (which is possible if it was put forward and voted by the membership) thus changing general rules stipulates the use of list

[dwp102]

Or just abolish the rule if its not for insurance purposes?

[Col]

Or just abolish the rule if its not for insurance purposes?

The rule has nothing to do with insurance. It is to help towards parity, and to keep costs down by ensuring that all calls on the list will fit all cars (by making sure that cars take either stick, saddle or shortie of a certain size)

[Aire valley]

Don't get wound up about rules..! Lots of club racers use nano techs, they seem well made, reliable and a great price.....then again the Gens Ace also seem good..

[DCM]

there is always the chance that brca could apply a rule that all members use the list to be insured (which is possible if it was put forward and voted by the membership) thus changing general rules stipulates the use of list

Sorry, I have lost my crystal ball, all future predictions are null and void :thumbsup:

The list also stops everyone running out to be the latest amazeballs battery that just outperforms the rest!!!! although saying that, for buggy, it is irrelevant (apart from in your head).

[terry.sc]

Or just abolish the rule if its not for insurance purposes?If you look in the insurance section of the handbook it states:
There is only ONE BRCA rule regarding equipment that is applicable to the insurance cover.
General Rule 13, Vehicle Scope –
The BRCA will not recognise a model vehicle as being suitable for radio control that is more than any of these measurements; 1 meter long, 20kg in weight or a maximum of 30cc engine capacity.
That’s It.If it was for insurance purposes it would mean you would need batteries and motors from the EB lists to be covered by the insurance when you were bashing on the beach or local park, not just on the track.

The homologation lists are nothing to do with the insurance, but everything to do with homologating the batteries/motors/tyres/bodies/ESCs for particular classes of racing, to keep the racing fair.
Being on the list means they have been tested and checked that they meet the rules for whichever class they are designed for, and that they are readily available from a UK source.

Now lets look at what happens if the lists aren't used and you can use any battery that fits within the maximum dimensions. All you see is that you can then use any cheap batteries you want, but at the top end of racing it leaves the door open for manufacturers to supply their sponsored drivers directly with their latest battery technology, squeezed into ultra thin cases that wouldn't pass the BRCA/ROAR drop test to get as much capacity in there, with batteries costing considerably more.

The homologation lists are there to ensure the racing is fair, so you now that every motor/battery/etc. meets all the rules, that what you are using is much the same as everyone else, and that the electrics won't be superseded by the motor or battery of the month as without homologation there's nothing to stop the manufacturers constantly updating the components and releasing new versions all year round.
Brings us back to the "good old days" when when you could pay quite a bit more than the price limit for the very best selected cells as there was nothing to tell the difference between them and the standard cells, then having to replace them all in a couple of months as new cells came out that gave a little better performance.

[terry.sc]

there is always the chance that brca could apply a rule that all members use the list to be insured (which is possible if it was put forward and voted by the membership) thus changing general rules stipulates the use of list
That would mean I'd have to fit a BRCA approved brushless motor and lipo into my Tamiya Lunchbox, instead of old cells and a 540, to be covered when I go bash on the beach.:lol:

[mark christopher]

My statement is factually correct, if your local club chooses to only allow batteries from the BRCA list, that is a club rule NOT a BRCA rule, and for one, would query the reason for this as by no means does a battery being on the list make it any 'safer' than one not on the list, as, to be transported, they ALL have to be certified to the same NATO regulations.

That would mean I'd have to fit a BRCA approved brushless motor and lipo into my Tamiya Lunchbox, instead of old cells and a 540, to be covered when I go bash on the beach.:lol:

agreed, but how many non brca members do that without any insurance?

[alex97]

Or just buy the gens ace that are allowed by brca and are the same price?

[K-Brewer]

Or just buy the gens ace that are allowed by brca and are the same price?

+1 for the gens ace

[DCM]

agreed, but how many non brca members do that without any insurance?

Ooooooh, but bashing at the beach, you're not following the General Rules of the BRCA manual, so you are not covered!!!!

[DCM]

That would mean I'd have to fit a BRCA approved brushless motor and lipo into my Tamiya Lunchbox, instead of old cells and a 540, to be covered when I go bash on the beach.:lol:

Rebel :thumbsup: