2015 Xray XB4 4WD

[BentKa]

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[luniemiester]

Any news on the proper 2wd Bent?

[BentKa]

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[neallewis]

I wonder if they have sorted the front bumper "issue"? :woot:

[BentKa]

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[neallewis]

Is there a front bumper "issue" :confused:

Bent

it's a problem for sure. sticking out when there is some suspension compression. it gets in the way and can stop you dead on some tracks. I was always running mine without the plastic piece, which usually resulted in a bent FF hanger, despite not actually hitting anything other than bottoming out.
Depends on the track i guess, but it was always a problem. I ran a T bone bumper for a while, which really helped, despite looking crap and its lowered ground clearance, until it broke.
Moving to the yokomo was such a pleasure to not be bottoming out and hitting the front of the car on the track, or gouging out a channel on jump faces.

[shark]

Changed from xb4 for that exact reason :(

[andoiwebb]

Front bumper issue?? I've run these since they came out and never EVER had a front bumper issue. Weird.

Anyway, a new 4wd is nice but not really necessary.

What do we want?

2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD 2WD

When do we want it?

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, can we have an update to the current XB4 2wd with a proper 2wd front end please? This would make the Xray 10th offroad range complete and AWESOME!

[Tom3012]

'All-new'? Looks the same in that picture to me :woot:

[BentKa]

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[BentKa]

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[BentKa]

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[danDanEFC]

Tell us more Bent?

Will the updates on the new-ish 4wd for on the current 2wd?

[andoiwebb]

Going by the euros, there may be a centre diff. Don't think that will work in the 2wd!

[neallewis]

Aaahhh…..the "my landings are crap" issue……yep I've heard of that "issue" :p :lol:

The XB4 is one of the most balanced cars to jump and this shouldn't be an issue at all if you have the right jumping technique and setup.

Never been an issue for the close to 2 years running them.

Did replace 1 FF hanger the first month of Malin running hers though after hitting a steel fence at the local indoor track :)

But if you keep digging into jump faces you are either running it way too low or way too soft.

And if you land with your tires stopped or on your nose it could very well dig in for sure……but you want to give it a bit of throttle just before landing to take advantage of the forward momentum as you land and then instantly get on the throttle (or brake if there's a turn) ;)

But yes it does stick out a tiny bit further than a couple of the other 4WD's out there.

Bent

? I never thought the landing were crap? are they? it was ok jumping yes. I ran mine for a year. I put up with the bumper digging in, but it certainly highlighted the car wasn't tested on certain types of tracks in it initial development (bumpy and low traction).

Now I notice other people still running the xray having issues with the bumper digging in, most recently at RHR. Their setup, not mine :thumbsup:

[wes]

Really? Had no issues at RHR autumn cup. came home with a lovely 1st place trophy. Mind you don't get me started on it over the rumble strips at F2's:(.

[sime46]

Opportunity to brag beautifully taken Andrew. Love it. Never mind about the bumper issues/non issues. I won stuff. Look at me. You're my hero Wes. Xxxxxx:thumbsup: I may have been drinking. Hic

[andoiwebb]

Winners don't need bumpers!!! I need a bumper 😭

[TARTMAN]

never had any bumper issues anywhere ever. strange.

best car I have ever owned. still running the early version.

LOVE IT!

[shark]

Opportunity to brag beautifully taken Andrew. Love it. Never mind about the bumper issues/non issues. I won stuff. Look at me. You're my hero Wes. Xxxxxx:thumbsup: I may have been drinking. Hic

Love it !
:woot:

[BentKa]

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[Vrg1]

Hi bent

What do you think of the centre diff and what sort of tracks or conditions would it be best for?

[BentKa]

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[andoiwebb]

:p:pGreat, more opportunities to get myself and all my stuff covered in my touring car 1000000wt oil, it's so thick I'd class it as a solid!!! It gets EVERYWHERE! Or maybe that's just me :p :p

[BentKa]

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[dibble34]

Does anyone know when this will be released? I am checking every day :blush:

[Colin Kirkham]

Same can wait to see it :thumbsup:

[sime46]

Any day now I'm told. Keep an eye out. :thumbsup:

[SHY]

Just the same as the "diffing out" issue on the 2WD.
It also magically disappears once the buggy is properly setup.
Bent

Bent, could you please help me out there? I think I have that issue :blush:

[Lee1972]

What's the diffing out issue?

[bally]

We are expecting our XB4 2015 Spec kits to arrive on the 19th, currently we haven't been given a price, so i've guessed at £349.99 any kits Pre-Ordered will be supplied at this price or less should it be cheaper than we are expecting!

http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=360002

Thanks
MB

[gunny]

my local dealer have it on stock :)
( Belgium)

[dibble34]

Tomorrow then :thumbsup: http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/news/newsdesc.php?news_id=4139&kategoria=4139&catName=&newsTitle=XRAY%20XB4%9215%20to%20be%20released%20o n%2014th%20November&Xnet_Session=cdad1c579f85605648b440e64f2d0176

[danDanEFC]

Coolio, I hope there's some cool stuff to stick on my 2wd.

[RobW]

Not early risers at Xray it seems. Did they get into work this morning and suddenly remembered they were supposed to be announcing a revised car or something. :lol:

How much longer can you wait Dave:p:p

[thorny97]

Not early risers at Xray it seems. Did they get into work this morning and suddenly remembered they were supposed to be announcing a revised car or something. :lol:

How much longer can you wait Dave:p:p

If I reminder rightly its normally mid afternoon when the information for new cars comes at out xray

[dibble34]

Not early risers at Xray it seems. Did they get into work this morning and suddenly remembered they were supposed to be announcing a revised car or something. :lol:

How much longer can you wait Dave:p:p


it had better be good!

[Colin Kirkham]

It will be good.... It's an Xray :)

[BentKa]

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[dibble34]

Ordered @MB Models :drool: http://www.teamxray.com/xb4/

[sime46]

Looks good. Very good.

[sime46]

Got mine. Anyone else??? Looks very nice.

[thorny97]

Yes got mine car early today. Looks very good

[sime46]

Question is Mark, shorty or saddle?? I'm starting shorty.

[dibble34]

Got mine. Anyone else??? Looks very nice.

How have you done that? Mb getting mine tomorrow hopefully. Gotta go shorty for dry setup I recon :)

[thorny97]

Question is Mark, shorty or saddle?? I'm starting shorty.

My car has been built has shorty

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/F32F0482-1B23-4D59-B1EE-8813CEE36B54_zpssu7tieph.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F32F0482-1B23-4D59-B1EE-8813CEE36B54_zpssu7tieph.jpg.html)

[Chris Larner]

The full length top deck has a large centre cut out ready for a centre diff!

[AmiSMB]

How have you done that? Mb getting mine tomorrow hopefully. Gotta go shorty for dry setup I recon :)

Best go for wet! Certainly was last weekend and we missed you! Looking forward to seeing your new ride and how it performs on 7th Dec.

[dibble34]

Best go for wet! Certainly was last weekend and we missed you! Looking forward to seeing your new ride and how it performs on 7th Dec.

Keeping the 2013 spec for the wet. Was dialed last time I used it. Miss you too nemesis :p

[sime46]

Mine too Mark. Just shocks and electrics to go. Oh, and shell at painters.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/sime46/8FFB5937-4409-4D56-83C4-4754FB625F46_zpsq6utmbo8.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/sime46/media/8FFB5937-4409-4D56-83C4-4754FB625F46_zpsq6utmbo8.jpg.html)

[thorny97]

Looking good, same with me. Shocks are on servo in, motor in just everything else to do. Shell at the painters as well

Broxtowe a week on Saturday is the maiden outting for my car

[wes]

Looks like I'm lagging behind you pair, mines sat in box still.

[sime46]

We had parents evening tonight or my shocks would be done. It almost builds itself. Mine will debut at Bridgeford with maybe a shakedown at Mansfield nx Wednesday.

[HeavyD99]

My car has been built has shorty

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/F32F0482-1B23-4D59-B1EE-8813CEE36B54_zpssu7tieph.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F32F0482-1B23-4D59-B1EE-8813CEE36B54_zpssu7tieph.jpg.html)

I believe your steering bridge is on upside down...

[thorny97]

All wired up just waiting for shorties to turn up

I will check Ackerman plate over the weekend when it's on the setup station thanks

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/B714C452-F6DE-40FB-9C23-0B03A9977798_zpspw3vbr2w.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B714C452-F6DE-40FB-9C23-0B03A9977798_zpspw3vbr2w.jpg.html)

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/FBB368D6-298A-4459-9B17-012C4F1245C2_zps8xaiqkor.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FBB368D6-298A-4459-9B17-012C4F1245C2_zps8xaiqkor.jpg.html)

[sime46]

Nice job dude. Can't wait to see how they go.

[Allan1875]

I am planning to go saddle when I get mine, creature of habit and can't really afford to get shorties! I will maybe borrow a shorty pack to test in that config back to back.

[jpmatrix]

All wired up just waiting for shorties to turn up

I will check Ackerman plate over the weekend when it's on the setup station thanks

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/B714C452-F6DE-40FB-9C23-0B03A9977798_zpspw3vbr2w.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B714C452-F6DE-40FB-9C23-0B03A9977798_zpspw3vbr2w.jpg.html)

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Mobile%20Uploads/FBB368D6-298A-4459-9B17-012C4F1245C2_zps8xaiqkor.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/thorny97/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FBB368D6-298A-4459-9B17-012C4F1245C2_zps8xaiqkor.jpg.html)

That looks awesome. Really neat wiring job you done there.

I just got a 2nd hand 2013 xb4 and was impressed with it.
Really considering getting a 2015 spec.

Just wandering,is your steering linkage on the wrong side of the servo horn as it looks quite angled in the pic.

[thorny97]

That looks awesome. Really neat wiring job you done there.

I just got a 2nd hand 2013 xb4 and was impressed with it.
Really considering getting a 2015 spec.

Just wandering,is your steering linkage on the wrong side of the servo horn as it looks quite angled in the pic.

Thanks for that

Its not screwed up yet to test the linkage

[sime46]

It's alive.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/sime46/D13DC84D-9541-4BF7-9532-5952FF4BF131_zpsgp0q00xm.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/sime46/media/D13DC84D-9541-4BF7-9532-5952FF4BF131_zpsgp0q00xm.jpg.html)

[langers]

Why has the speedo not been fitted behind motor will it not fit as the wiring would be shortend if it was

[sime46]

It's on a lovely xray radio tray and the layout is like in the manual matey. I can only assume this layout gives a better weight distribution. I think the trick here is to start out as the manual suggests and then tune from there as required. I trust Mr Hudy to do his sums correctly. Also, it would be a squeeze behind the motor, at least it would with my Orion set up.

[discothesnake]

All the 4wd in shorty mode seem to be run this way. As the gentleman above says, it must be the best balance for that layout.

[dMITIj]

It would be nice to see it on the 4 point scale for the difference layouts weight wise

[dMITIj]

All the 4wd in shorty mode seem to be run this way. As the gentleman above says, it must be the best balance for that layout.

The D413 is better with the ESC behind the motor in shorty config

[/tobys]

The D413 is better with the ESC behind the motor in shorty config

Not according to Tessman or Lowe (if you look at their layouts) :p

Also you get less cooling air to the speedo sat behind the motor...

[dMITIj]

Not according to Tessman or Lowe (if you look at their layouts) :p

Also you get less cooling air to the speedo sat behind the motor...

The weight is still better that way regardles of what tessmann and Lowe do and a fan fix the heat if you have that problem :p

[Vrg1]

Here's mine in saddle pack mode. Shell to go.

[jimmiprice]

Guys, what spares are worth getting for an XB4 ?
I guess a few have ran the car for a while and know what can break. Ive looked for the obvious things like hubs and wishbones but cant find any specific to the 2015 car so i guess the ones from the original car will be the same.
Thanks..

[dMITIj]

Guys, what spares are worth getting for an XB4 ?
I guess a few have ran the car for a while and know what can break. Ive looked for the obvious things like hubs and wishbones but cant find any specific to the 2015 car so i guess the ones from the original car will be the same.
Thanks..

you can compare the parts numbers 2014 vs 2015 from the exploded view:
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/xray/SetupSheetsXrayXB4.html

[birdy]

Guys, what spares are worth getting for an XB4 ?
I guess a few have ran the car for a while and know what can break. Ive looked for the obvious things like hubs and wishbones but cant find any specific to the 2015 car so i guess the ones from the original car will be the same.
Thanks..

Jimmy

Can't see you needing many spares with a 2015 spec, maybe a front bulkhead which is different to a 2014, the arms are the same between 14 & 15, the usual shock shafts, spur gear.

Run Xray for 3 years now and the only thing I have ever broke has been front bulkheads and crown / pinion gears which will be good now with the metal gears.

Then again I've seen your driving!!!:D:D

[toenz]

It would be nice to see it on the 4 point scale for the difference layouts weight wise

You're welcome, i think the weight balance is ok.:thumbsup:

[dMITIj]

You're welcome, i think the weight balance is ok.:thumbsup:


Thanks!! :)

could you post a higher res pic?

[dibble34]

Guys, what spares are worth getting for an XB4 ?
I guess a few have ran the car for a while and know what can break. Ive looked for the obvious things like hubs and wishbones but cant find any specific to the 2015 car so i guess the ones from the original car will be the same.
Thanks..

I have run an XB4 for 2 years now and gone through the following

2 x Front bulkheads
1 x Spur Gear
1 x Internal gears for diff
1 x Rear Hub

Also worth getting some of the pins that you use when building the CVD's

Dave

[Cammers]

I have run an XB4 for 2 years now and gone through the following

2 x Front bulkheads
1 x Spur Gear
1 x Internal gears for diff
1 x Rear Hub

Also worth getting some of the pins that you use when building the CVD's

Dave

Does that include the bulk head last time out?☺

[dibble34]

Does that include the bulk head last time out?☺

Yep :) I have a replacement for you in my bag.

[danDanEFC]

Only things I have broke is a spur gear, cvd pin and a rear arm. All being crashes causes by the same person on 2 different occasions.

[HeavyD99]

You're welcome, i think the weight balance is ok.:thumbsup:

Wow, she's really well balanced!

Toenz - what electronics and battery are you running?

Is that a low profile servo?

[toenz]

Wow, she's really well balanced!

Toenz - what electronics and battery are you running?

Is that a low profile servo?

Esc, Battery and motor from Orion. The servo is a kopropo rsx (normal size)

[HeavyD99]

Cool, thanks Toenz.

So, here's the weight layout from my observation:

Left Side
Orion ESC & capacitor = 44g
Orion Motor = 188g
Transponder?

Right Side
KO Propo Servo RSX = 65g
Orion Shorty = 295g
KO Receiver?

[jimmiprice]

Jimmy

Can't see you needing many spares with a 2015 spec, maybe a front bulkhead which is different to a 2014, the arms are the same between 14 & 15, the usual shock shafts, spur gear.

Run Xray for 3 years now and the only thing I have ever broke has been front bulkheads and crown / pinion gears which will be good now with the metal gears.

Then again I've seen your driving!!!:D:D

Ha ha, must be a strong car if you have bust so little Birdy !!
Ill get the usual stuff and that should be enough i was just making sure it didnt have a tendancy to bust certain parts ! Been running a K1 aero which i cant seem to get away with so fancy a change !
Thansk for the other replies too guys, car seems to be well liked !!

[toenz]

Cool, thanks Toenz.

So, here's the weight layout from my observation:

Left Side
Orion ESC & capacitor = 44g
Orion Motor = 188g
Transponder?

Right Side
KO Propo Servo RSX = 65g
Orion Shorty = 295g
KO Receiver?

Esc with wire 60-70g
Orion Shorty +- 200g
Transponder 5g
Receiver 10g

[sime46]

Thanks to RC Disco, PBM Racing, SMD,Team Orion and Bandicoot Bodies for the continued help and support. I'm very pleased how it's turned out.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/sime46/5C99EA54-B993-47EE-B5BD-177F007ABA70_zpscfcs3fkg.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/sime46/media/5C99EA54-B993-47EE-B5BD-177F007ABA70_zpscfcs3fkg.jpg.html)

[dMITIj]

Thanks to RC Disco, PBM Racing, SMD,Team Orion and Bandicoot Bodies for the continued help and support. I'm very pleased how it's turned out.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f53/sime46/5C99EA54-B993-47EE-B5BD-177F007ABA70_zpscfcs3fkg.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/sime46/media/5C99EA54-B993-47EE-B5BD-177F007ABA70_zpscfcs3fkg.jpg.html)


looooking sick!! :wub gj :thumbsup:

[funkydunkyboogie]

Never seen anyone with a bumper issue on my local track and have been running the original XB4 up until this week... Yes I swapped for the NEW XB4! Although it looks similar there are many very clever developments, it has gone to the next level again so smooth to drive and carries so much corner speed than the previous version

But bumper issues not heard of them, if your compressing the suspension that much then you probably need to run stiffer

[Vrg1]

Got my shell and the car performed very well on its first outing.

Also does anybody know where or when the centre diff will be released along with the servo mounting set.

[Vrg1]

Hi guys

Just to see if anybody has had issues with steering twitch. I've noticed that the 2014 was spaced out behind the servo horn by 4mm I tried it and it smoothed out the steering ko servo but a friend has a savox 1251 and has had no problems.

[sime46]

The servo is further back in the new car so no spacers are needed on the horn to run the link straight. Is that what your asking mate?

[wes]

And if you build it in the right configuration its on the other side of the car sime:woot:

[Vrg1]

The servo is further back in the new car so no spacers are needed on the horn to run the link straight. Is that what your asking mate?


Hi, Yes that was the anwser l need, l think l can put it down to a dodgy servo.

[sime46]

And if you build it in the right configuration its on the other side of the car sime:woot:

Everyone's a critic. I'm testing saddle to help you and me decide which is best. You're welcome teammate.

[sime46]

Well, after some back to back ish testing I'm back onto shorty setup. I've changed quite a bit of my setup and went to Bury Metro yesterday. The car went brilliant on the 50/50 carpet shiny floor combo. I feel like I've really made progress with the car now. Previously I'd not felt entirely comfortable in higher speed turns but the changes seem to have it hooked up beautifully. The car was balanced and settled all day on both the high grip carpet and the slippy wood floor. Some slight tweaks here and there will have it planted from track to track now I reckon. Ill get a setup sheet together if anyone wants it over the next few days. :thumbsup:

[Steve.T]

Got my shell and the car performed very well on its first outing.

Also does anybody know where or when the centre diff will be released along with the servo mounting set.

I'd like to know too

[sime46]

I hear that the diffs will be very soon. Could be a rumour but was a reliable source.

[Steve.T]

Have they changed the wheels from the 2013 and 2014 models?

[spennyy2k]

nope

[JohnM]

Have they changed the wheels from the 2013 and 2014 models?

I don't think the 2015 car has different wheels to the '14 car, but the front wheels did change between the '13 & '14 cars, the off set is 1mm wider.

[sime46]

I don't think the 2015 car has different wheels to the '14 car, but the front wheels did change between the '13 & '14 cars, the off set is 1mm wider.

This is correct.

[Steve.T]

This is correct.

cheers guys

[Steve.T]

Another question, would it be possible to covert the 2013 car to 2015 specs?

[wes]

Technically yes but as you need all of the middle of the car it would work out cheaper to sell your existing one and buy a 15.

[Lee1972]

Another question, would it be possible to covert the 2013 car to 2015 specs?

In principle yes but it'll probably be cheaper to buy a new kit and sell your old car.

[BentKa]

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[Steve.T]

The new 3mm alu. chassis and 2mm top deck that we have been using for some time on medium to high grip surfaces have now been released by Xray:






Bent

Do they make a difference?

[BentKa]

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[dibble34]

Have to say i am a little frustrated with Xray that all these changes are being released after the 2015 spec has been released. If i make all the recommend changes to car for astro, it will owe me well over £500! Why were they not included in the Kit? The good thing about the original car was it had everything you needed out of the box. Never thought a cheaper option would be to buy the ZX6!

[s22jgs]

Options are exactly that.
Most average standard drivers won't notice the difference that most options will provide so you don't have to get them.

Even if you did sped 500 quid, ud save more than that in not repairing it. I had a zx6 for 2 months and did about 70 quid on arms alone. The thing is made is biscuits

[HeavyD99]

Another thing to keep in mind is not getting caught up in the thought you need everything you see the Pro's running. If you are crashing every other lap, your issue is not the difference in running an optional 3mm chassis, you need to work on running cleaner laps. I include myself in this group, I don't race much during the winter and read everything and get all wound up about the latest and greatest new stuff. I'm still waiting to see if this new chassis replaces the stock chassis for running on clay, maybe I'll get it, I dunno yet, but at a club level, will it be the difference in me making the A Main if I keep crashing or run old tires? Nah. The 2016 might come standard with this chassis!

[s22jgs]

The 3mm chassis is predominantly for carpet (high grip) as far as I know so not for clay

[BentKa]

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[andoiwebb]

Well, that's me completely confused with so many different ways to set up the flex. I think I'll leave mine standard as it's good enough!!

[Lee1972]

Me too :D

[HeavyD99]

I'd like to see some new set ups for outdoors on clay or hard packed to see how these are being used vs. the traditional top deck set ups. I'm not running the rear top deck, so to use these lower decks, I'd only run the front one? I might get them for carpet...but I have the top decks for that already...dang!

[BentKa]

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[Golfdude]

I'm thinking about getting the xb4 '15. Is there a 2016 version coming out? I'm currently an b44 driver and looking to upgrade, what are these like on astro?

[OneKiwi]

Great on astro, get or make a bulkhead brace and the metal crown gear and pinion.

I'm sure there is a 16 coming but with which new bits as standard I'm not sure.
3mm chassis is good, but I'll be testing the standard chassis with CF stiffeners.

[fastinfastout]

Xray, why do you release 12mm wheels when all your cars are 14mm......?

[reg]

Xray, why do you release 12mm wheels when all your cars are 14mm......?


Probably a clue to one 2016 update 👍🏼

[InsideLineModels]

Xray, why do you release 12mm wheels when all your cars are 14mm......?

This is due to the move to standardize the wheels for off road to make it possible for pre-mounts at large events (similar to the way it's done in TC I believe).

I think its a rule that has been proposed to come into action for the Worlds in 2017.

Although it might be a little bit messy to start with, in the long run it will be better for everyone I think.

Kev

[simonrhart]

I'm thinking about getting the xb4 '15. Is there a 2016 version coming out? I'm currently an b44 driver and looking to upgrade, what are these like on astro?

There is always a 2016, 20[insert year here] coming out, Xray is a business and they need to release new cars often. But to answer, I cannot recommend the XB4 highly enough. I love it, it is made for astro, grip roll does not exist with this car. I have the '15 model and run shorty lipo's and they fit my DB2 so I am a happy camper.

Good news they will support 12mm hexes, other than Durango I did not think anyone else supports 14mm hexes.

Cheers
Simon

[Stevebolt]

Any tips for when building a kit.

[andys]

Just built my 2015 - few things I noticed.

The metal ball stud things that go into the shock bottoms - all 4 supplied were the same - so they were too big to fit into the front shocks - had to cut the 'collar' off 2 so they fit!

Rear shocks - no matter what I try the springs catch the shock bodies when on the car and the suspension is moved - not ideal - no idea how to resolve this as the springs are simply not wide enough to clear the shock body properly.

Apart from that - very solid indeed - as you'd expect.

Built as shorty.

[simonrhart]

Any tips for when building a kit.

I have to say it's a great kit, very easy to put together - the best kit I have ever built. The instructions are especially very good, nice great detail. And congrats on your purchase, I love this car, grip roll does not exist with this car - at least I haven't seen it yet!

One thing I would do if I knew beforehand before building the car, is throw the stock turnbuckles and ball cups away and buy better ones. I have just replaced mine with Kyosho turnbuckles and Kyosho ball cups because I have never had any problems with them.

The stock XB4 ball cups pop off very easily. The stock ones seem to pop off randomly even in cases when you don't crash or land badly.

Another thing, although I haven't yet had problems with mine. You might want to replace or at least buy a spare of metal satellite gears for the differentials. A few folks I know has had problems with diffs burning up on the stock plastic (composite) satellite gears. I still run the plastic ones without issue but I don't drive overly aggressively.

Cheers
Simon

[Stevebolt]

Cheers for advice, hoping to start building tomorrow. Plan on running as shorty, and ready for next weekend .

[JohnM]

One thing I would do if I knew beforehand before building the car, is throw the stock turnbuckles and ball cups away and buy better ones. I have just replaced mine with Kyosho turnbuckles and Kyosho ball cups because I have never had any problems with them.

The stock XB4 ball cups pop off very easily. The stock ones seem to pop off randomly even in cases when you don't crash or land badly.

Cheers
Simon

Did they change the ball cups on the '15 car? I've never had a problem with the ones on my '13 spec car.

[andoiwebb]

There's nothing wrong with the stock ball cups, they're really good. Maybe loosen your servo saver a touch and hit less things!

[andoiwebb]

Well done to Malin Karlsen coming 2nd in the E final at the euros. Great driving and the car looked amazing in the final. Bent, please post that set up as the car looked absolutely dialled, I wish I'd got that set up on for my final!

[dibble34]

Did they change the ball cups on the '15 car? I've never had a problem with the ones on my '13 spec car.

Never had one pop off on the 2015, but have when trying to adjust them. They seem a bit tighter on the turnbuckle thread than my 2013. If I built again I would put a bit of oil on the threads. Replacing them is not required though, and never bent or snapped a turnbuckle in 3 years!

[simonrhart]

Did they change the ball cups on the '15 car? I've never had a problem with the ones on my '13 spec car.

I don't think so. Strange how I am seeing this. Are you running the alloy bell crank John? I am on my car and this could be placing more stress on the ball cups.

[JohnM]

I don't think so. Strange how I am seeing this. Are you running the alloy bell crank John? I am on my car and this could be placing more stress on the ball cups.

Yes mate, mine is fully Exotek'd up on the steering front, alloy bellcranks & alloy Ackerman link, had an alloy servo arm as well so there isn't any give in my steering.

[BentKa]

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[lomar15]

I'm installing the #361168 Graphite Chassis Brace Upper Deck - Short Pack in my '15 and was wondering why doesn't the kit come with the 361172? The small spacer for the center spur. One 361172 spacer comes in the original kit. But I need a second for the front bulkhead. Or should I reinstall the front upper deck? Or cut and make my own spacer?

thanks
Robert

[Tayter]

Hi Guys

Reading through this thread I noticed that the ball cups are mentioned, had a number of XB4 's from 13 to 15;s and always had issues with the turnbuckles and cups popping off. Tried replacing the cups but they still pop off in a crash (I know I shouldn't crash as much !!), so been looking at the kyosho rb6 ball cups, will these fit straight on to the xray turnbuckles ???

I have tried the greasing of the threads when screwing the ball cups on and working them so they are not as tight, but it is ruining race days with them keep popping off. Any other brands that people have used or recommend ?

Cheers

steve

[simonrhart]

Hi Guys

Reading through this thread I noticed that the ball cups are mentioned, had a number of XB4 's from 13 to 15;s and always had issues with the turnbuckles and cups popping off. Tried replacing the cups but they still pop off in a crash (I know I shouldn't crash as much !!), so been looking at the kyosho rb6 ball cups, will these fit straight on to the xray turnbuckles ???

I have tried the greasing of the threads when screwing the ball cups on and working them so they are not as tight, but it is ruining race days with them keep popping off. Any other brands that people have used or recommend ?

Cheers

steve

Hi Steve

I mentioned the ball cups popping off. It's strange, because I found when I first got my '15 I had several occasions when they popped off - never seen this in other kits. But since the first few times racing the buggy I no longer see this problem. Maybe I am a better driver now - XRay kits do make you a better driver because they are so awesome to drive :thumbsup:

I did purchase Kyosho ball cups along with turnbuckles but never fitted them. You need the Kyosho turn buckles too as they are a lot thicker than the XRay ones. You also need the studs, the neck is longer or shorter - can't remember which on the Kyosho.

The '16 car has the same turnbuckles and cups.

Cheers
Simon

[lomar15]

What is a good setting for the servo saver? My kit instructions says 2mm. I had mine set at 2.2mm. Most of the pro setups just state "tight" It did not feel like it was set too tight. but in 8 months or racing I've gone through 3 composite servo horns. then switched to aluminium and now my 2nd set of gears in my servo. The 16' version kit setup states 3-4mm initial preload and I've compared all the part numbers and every part is the same as my15'. There is no way to get mine to 3mm, it coil binds at 2.5mm.
The car is amazing otherwise. Running indoors on carpet, wood boards for track barriers. I'm easily 1st/2nd place driver at our local club track(when I dont break) barely crash, just bumping the barriers at the most.I've come 2nd place twice with completely stripped gears(the car is a handful to drive lol) Savox sc1257TG servo. which I've used in all my cars without servo savers with no problems at all. I'm going to switch to a heavier servo and maybe set my saver to 1.9mm? Anyone else have any issues? ideas?
thanks Bob

[OneKiwi]

I would defo say get a tougher servo, at least 12kg

Most I think are running the saver tight eg. as hard as possible with a tough full size servo.

We have found that the plastic will catch after a hard landing if it was a stock setting causing the servo saver not to centre properly.

The Alu saver from tresery did help out.

[lomar15]

Ok thanks, .Trying that now. Installed my ebuggy servo. 15kg. So far so good.

[BentKa]

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