View Full Version : MCI Decals - can anyone confirm quality?
HKS_TRD
06-10-2014, 01:56 AM
Hi all
I have seen some new repro decals on eBay from Canada, the seller is MCI decals who I believe is connected with TBG, has anyone used their decals and if so how do they stack up with the other repro decals available?
I am yet to use any of the repro decals I have, only thing I know is Marwan need heating to bend not sure of other brands
Any tips or experiences please share
OptimaFan
06-10-2014, 05:22 AM
I uses MCI's decals a lot recently, and one thing I like is these take bends very easily. That's very convenient.
The printed colors are bright enough, but color seperation isn't always spot on. At a small distance, this doesn't show that much. Here are a few pics of a body using these decals:
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/9/5/2/0/a7094133-153-CorallyMid_36.jpg
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/9/5/2/0/a7094139-15-CorallyMid_42.jpg
He is a pleasant guy to deal with, and ships fast. Also done some custom sheets for me.
alcyon
06-10-2014, 11:49 AM
Better than marwans thats for sure. If you make a mistake you can peel and restick. Doesnt seem to lose its adhesive so quickly like marwans.
tahustvedt
06-10-2014, 11:59 AM
Here are my Marwan repro body and decals for comparison. Both look good enough to me. Color separation probably varies a little between prints. I understand they are made to order.
OptimaFan
06-10-2014, 02:29 PM
Better than marwans thats for sure. If you make a mistake you can peel and restick. Doesnt seem to lose its adhesive so quickly like marwans.
That is true, you can peel and restick. Just as long as you don't pull too hard, or you may deform the decal as it can stretch easily. But when handled with care, these are easier to apply, due to this behavior.
tahustvedt
06-10-2014, 02:41 PM
The MCI decals pictured look like they're of a thinner material than the Marwan decals I used. That's a plus, and might explain why they conform to compound shapes better.
I had to peel and restick some of mine. The yellow and green on the "bonnet" for example.
OptimaFan
06-10-2014, 02:45 PM
The Mci are indeed thinner.
ralphee
07-10-2014, 06:41 AM
MCI feel more like vinyl, not the best print, but the adhere well and take to forming very well. I've just fitted some of the Masami sponsor logos to my YZ10, OK for the money if your looking for a few almost impossible vintage logos!
lee
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/ralphee/get-attachmentaspx_zps1433af47.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ralphee/media/get-attachmentaspx_zps1433af47.jpg.html)
TM Ru22311
17-10-2014, 05:08 PM
Nathaniel (from MCI) is actually the nephew of Jon (from TBG). Both are very friendly to deal with and I have ordered many products from both. Can't compare to Marwan's as I have never bought any of his, but the MCI decals are very good for the price. They do stick very well and removing/resticking is not a problem.
HKS_TRD
17-10-2014, 11:08 PM
Thanks for all the interesting info guys
I wonder if MCI would be able to do the alternate decals from the Turbo Optima Mid Special prototype for us
gomachv
18-10-2014, 02:59 AM
If you scan a sheet for them 300dpi or better and they use it you will get a couple free sheets, and a discount. Very similar to the TBG deal. I'm sure he is open to any rare sheets, and it's non destructive unlike the body deal.
OptimaFan
18-10-2014, 07:53 AM
Thanks for all the interesting info guys
I wonder if MCI would be able to do the alternate decals from the Turbo Optima Mid Special prototype for us
If you scan a sheet for them 300dpi or better and they use it you will get a couple free sheets, and a discount. Very similar to the TBG deal. I'm sure he is open to any rare sheets, and it's non destructive unlike the body deal.
That would be a great idea, but in this case we don't have an original sheet to replicate, or did I miss something?
But Nathanael is indeed very nice to deal with, he also did a few sheets of the Turbo Mid decals with red stripes instead of blue, as well as the custom wing decals for my Optima Mid ZX-R hybrid:
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/9/5/2/0/a6908968-243-MidZX_99.jpg
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/9/5/2/0/a6920265-45-MidZX_98.jpg
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/9/5/2/0/a6920266-206-MidZX_99.jpg
gomachv
18-10-2014, 10:16 AM
Oops, I thought you had access to a sheet.
HKS_TRD
19-10-2014, 12:43 AM
Oops, I thought you had access to a sheet.
Unfortunately all I really have to go by is these pictures from a magazine article
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107272
And these pics from Kyosho
http://www.retromodelisme.com/scan_pages/13693/turbo-optima-mid-special-kyosho-page-27.html
Sadly none are in color but we should be able to improvise, someone with an original TOMS manual may be able to get a better scan or work out what colors the thick stripes should be
To have these stickers made is a backburner project of mine, I have all the bits to build a second TOMS NIP here and only really want to build it if I can make it look different to the first one, i.e. have these decals
OptimaFan
19-10-2014, 06:12 AM
Regarding those special TOMS decals, maybe more of us can try contact Kyosho? I tried, but as usual, didn't even get a reply. Maybe my email gets blocked, or they are not bothered to mail me back.
alcyon
19-10-2014, 07:02 AM
In a nutshell..i would buy mci decals again..they are cheap,look good and essy to peel and restick. Plus they really stay on the body after washing unlike marwans. Mci shipping is also cheaper than marwan.
HKS_TRD
19-10-2014, 01:22 PM
Regarding those special TOMS decals, maybe more of us can try contact Kyosho? I tried, but as usual, didn't even get a reply. Maybe my email gets blocked, or they are not bothered to mail me back.
Probably no one left that knows anything about them
OptimaFan
19-10-2014, 05:32 PM
Probably no one left that knows anything about them
If that is the case, then I would at least expect an answer explaining that. But I doubt that a company like Kyosho, that is proud of it's heritage, would not have any documentation of this version of one of their iconic rc cars.
I only got a reply that this question was forwarded to Kyosho Japan, as Kyosho America didn't know the answer, and since then silence for months. I sent a new message to Kyosho America, asking if they can follow up on it, and contact Japan again.
HKS_TRD
19-10-2014, 09:03 PM
I don't think any kits were sold with those decals, they were only on the prototypes, you can see in the magazine scan the car has SWB belts on it.
The Custom Special was sold with different stickers to what appeared in Kyosho photod
OptimaFan
20-10-2014, 07:32 AM
I know, but for instance the picture on that manual must have been taken in color likely, and later converted to black and white for use in the manual. And that japanese magazine, introducing the car, doesn't that lead anywhere?
tahustvedt
01-11-2014, 02:59 PM
I have now tried both MCI and Marwan, and the MCI decals are thinner and seem to stick better. The resolution and color alignment is better on the Marwan decals I have. I have to say I would prefer MCI for a runner. Both are good though.
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