Procat

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Won myself a Procat from ebay over the weekend, fairly local so i collected earlier today. Bit of a project, will be a runner.
No doubt i will be asking for plenty of advice over the coming weeks :)
It appears to have a few modifications and parts swapped out for bosscat parts.
Came with a box of spares which appear to be most of the origional parts from the car.

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Started to strip it down already to inspect for any damaged parts and to see what im up against. Current electrics wont be required any more.

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Looks to have some nice homemade metal rear arms, slipper clutch and u1304z 4wd truck and saloon body mount kit.
Few very helpful guys on facebook vintage schumacher page (anyone on here?) pointed out its also got bosscat hubs, wishbones, camberlink plate. Gearbox heatsink, possibly a mms front diff and an mms rear shock tower amongst the spares.

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Coming apart nicely, only problem ive encountered so far is a snapped top deck. I was aware there had been a repair as the seller was honest about this in his listing.
So he first part on my shopping list is a new top deck. Been advised fibre lyte do a carbon fibre one, anyone here used them? They the best option?

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plenty of spares...and a bit of bedtime reading ;)

[MattW]

Yeah, I think a few of the FB group will pop up on here. The rear shocks are bosscat works. The suspension plastics are pretty much all bosscat, the rear arms I'd guess are home made.

It is indeed a MMS front diff, and I wouldn't be surprised if you find an MMS rear diff as well (especially as there is a std one in the box!) Bosscat slipper (which a lot of people have been asking about recently) as well.

[Retro RC]

Bugger it was you who I was bidding against then lol

[Retro RC]

Coming apart nicely, only problem ive encountered so far is a snapped top deck. I was aware there had been a repair as the seller was honest about this in his listing.
So he first part on my shopping list is a new top deck. Been advised fibre lyte do a carbon fibre one, anyone here used them? They the best option?

Checkout peakey's xls build, he got his chassis set through fathead on here, the top plates are the same and the main chassis is no problem as he can use my new built procat for the template if needed👍
I got a fibrolite main chassis for my bosscat works they look nice but are not made of the best carbon sheet tbh

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Bugger it was you who I was bidding against then lol
I only bid with a few seconds to spare, bit of a last minute thing really.

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Yeah, I think a few of the FB group will pop up on here. The rear shocks are bosscat works. The suspension plastics are pretty much all bosscat, the rear arms I'd guess are home made.

It is indeed a MMS front diff, and I wouldn't be surprised if you find an MMS rear diff as well (especially as there is a std one in the box!) Bosscat slipper (which a lot of people have been asking about recently) as well.

Thanks for the info :)

[Peakey]

I think most of the members on vintage Schumacher are in here too :thumbsup:
The more I look at it the more I think it may of started out as a Bosscat or had a lot of Bosscat parts to start with, what rear diff is in it? That might be the give away.

Here's my Procat thread, currently a massive update is being planed but for the moment that is top secret ;)

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148624&highlight=Peakey

My XLS build with Damo (Fatheads) chassis set.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159362&highlight=Revival

[fathead]

Yep I can do the carbon for you, can do any customisation on it that you want easily too

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I think most of the members on vintage Schumacher are in here too :thumbsup:
The more I look at it the more I think it may of started out as a Bosscat or had a lot of Bosscat parts to start with, what rear diff is in it? That might be the give away.

Here's my Procat thread, currently a massive update is being planed but for the moment that is top secret ;)

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148624&highlight=Peakey

My XLS build with Damo (Fatheads) chassis set.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159362&highlight=Revival
I will take it apart a later this evening and post pics of what I find. Will also message the old owner see if he had it from new/shed any light.

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Yep I can do the carbon for you, can do any customisation on it that you want easily too
Great news, will message you 👍

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Just pulled apart the rear end. Any info on the diff?
At first i thought it may be standard but it appears to have metal washer carriers so maybe not?

[Peakey]

Looks like a standard drum with the alloy carriers, are the diff washers hexagonal or round and how thick are the alloy eccentrics? They look like the bosscat ones.

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Looks like a standard drum with the alloy carriers, are the diff washers hexagonal or round and how thick are the alloy eccentrics? They look like the bosscat ones.

They are hexagonal.
alloy eccentrics are 10mm overall, the mounting plate being 2mm.

[MattW]

All looks pretty std in there to me.

[Peakey]

I just thought the eccentrics were the rare bosscat ones but there not. The alloy our drives don't really come up for sale and are a lot better than the plastic ones.
Should just take a bit of a clean and you'll be up and running :thumbsup:

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All looks pretty std in there to me.
you mean std as in procat?
or its been changed to std bosscat diff?

[Peakey]

That's a standard Procat diff the bosscat one is white and bigger so needs thinner eccentrics.

Stole Derbydans pic again :thumbsup:
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/39C120C5-0992-4D2E-942E-296264F85778_zpswjpcnv8t.png (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/39C120C5-0992-4D2E-942E-296264F85778_zpswjpcnv8t.png.html)

Standard diff and bosscat pro diff, I say standard in size only really.

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Thanks peakey!
Im now busy with the old toothbrush cleaning everything ;)

[Peakey]

Can't beat a toothbrush and washing up liquid :thumbsup:

[Groomi]

Can't beat a toothbrush and washing up liquid :thumbsup:

Yes you can. An ultrasonic cleaner does it all for you while you get one with assembling some already clean bits. :)

[Peakey]

Yes you can. An ultrasonic cleaner does it all for you while you get one with assembling some already clean bits. :)

That's just laziness :p

[Peakey]

2 weeks and no update? The AE's are taking over we need an injection of Schumacher :thumbsup:

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2 weeks and no update? The AE's are taking over we need an injection of Schumacher :thumbsup:

hahaha i havnt forgotten, its been getting plenty of attention ;)
Well as i said before, everything got stripped down and i got busy with the toothbrush cleaning and checking everything.....diffs, shocks etc all rebuilt.
Then i threw it all back together whilst i waited for parts to arrive, and still search for other bits.

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Below is how she is currently sitting waiting for some more love and attention.
Do have a ton of bits to do, and parts to fit/replace back to procat parts but as im still gathering parts im not sure what i will use where as i will explain in my next post.....

[Peakey]

Looking very clean :woot: what rear arms are those, home made? They look indestructible

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Looking very clean :woot: what rear arms are those, home made? They look indestructible
they were the homemade ones that came on the car. I will put them back to normal procat when i find the time.
few of my parts......

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As i was saying about what parts will go where........ Ive ended up with a few new additions. Now own 3 procats, 3 bosscats and an ex team car xls.

This is the xls, undergone the same strip and clean. Was proper dirty, but with a bit of elbow grease and a trusty toothbrush its come up nice. Currently a pile of parts.

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Also ended up with this MINT bosscat, built as a showcar and NEVER run.
I went to pick up the xls and couldnt leave her behind. A real hotty.
:wub:wub:wub:wub:wub:wub

[Peakey]

Nice 😎 collection, what parts are you looking for? And the Bosscat sport is a nice addition I'm glad someone bought it before I had to

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Nice 😎 collection, what parts are you looking for? And the Bosscat sport is a nice addition I'm glad someone bought it before I had to
Im after some decals. origional or repro will do. :thumbsup: and need to buy some bodyshells/wings.
Im waiting on a job lot to turn up in the post. Once ive been through it all i will know what i need but i seem to be buying whatever i can lay my hands on at the moment as i want to run them and not worry too much if i break anything.

[Danf1275]

That Bosscat is lovely. Is it a Parma shell? Never seen one before.

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That Bosscat is lovely. Is it a Parma shell? Never seen one before.
i believe it was the parma showcar to model their shell.

[isobarik]

Lovley shell looking awsome you should have that copied...

love the paint ,....

but the big thing is that he has an toaster on his work bench .... :woot: awsome

mvh isobarik

[Peakey]

but the big thing is that he has an toaster on his work bench .... :woot: awsome

mvh isobarik

Or he's working on the kitchen side while his Mrs isn't there :o

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but the big thing is that he has an toaster on his work bench .... :woot: awsome

mvh isobarik
I take over the "breakfast bar" in the kitchen as my workbench. Quite often i take over the rest of the kitchen though. Cant work if theres not a kettle nearby ;)

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Or he's working on the kitchen side while his Mrs isn't there :o
She doesnt mind me working in the kitchen, unless shes trying to cook, but i must have some stuff hidden by 7ish when she gets home as she doesnt know ive got it.:D Managing to currently hide from her 2 procats, one bosscat, an xls and a sweet rc10t "killer T" :thumbsup: . She found the b3, and caught me and the nipper looking at the green bosscat :cry:

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Lovley shell looking awsome you should have that copied...

love the paint
Im looking to get it copied onto a few other shells for the cars i will be running, not sure who to get to do it as its quite detailed.
The bosscat unfortunately will never get run, but i will run its colours ;)

[Peakey]

not sure who to get to do it as its quite detailed.

http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9

Take your pic

[DerbyDan]

She doesnt mind me working in the kitchen, unless shes trying to cook, but i must have some stuff hidden by 7ish when she gets home as she doesnt know ive got it.:D Managing to currently hide from her 2 procats, one bosscat, an xls and a sweet rc10t "killer T" :thumbsup: . She found the b3, and caught me and the nipper looking at the green bosscat :cry:

Ooops, sounds like someone's been visiting DMS Racing!;)

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Ooops, sounds like someone's been visiting DMS Racing!;)
I had a couple of cars from John at dms, but ebay is my weakness ;)

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I had planned on doing more updates/photos as i done bits and pieces...... but i get a bit carried away and forget......
Anyway...heres a few pics as she is tonight :) hope you like her.

Waiting on a few more bits to arrive, have a new body to get painted and ballraced steering to clean up and fit :)
Most of the bosscat parts have now been returned to procat :thumbsup:
Front hubs now returned to procat this evening, but before pics taken.

[Peakey]

Looking good, what steering you got?

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just got this to go on once cleaned up

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Cleaned up very nice, all nuts replaced with fresh ones and fitted :)

[Peakey]

Nice and shiny 😎

[OptimaFan]

Nice Cat. Might want to have a look at the elastic bands keeping the front together, I thought I say some aging cracks on the 5th picture.

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Nice Cat. Might want to have a look at the elastic bands keeping the front together, I thought I say some aging cracks on the 5th picture.
yes mate, just one very old cracked one on there at the minute.
Have some new ones in the box for when its finished/im going to run it, but whilsts its on and off the bench every few days that one will do ;)
Waiting on the diffs to arrive so i can tear it apart agin :)