Rallycross RX at Mendip

[mrspeedy]

Time for a bit of a edit on my original post now that we actually have peeps with cars that want to race .... and still growing interest in the class !!!

So, some general guidelines for the class to get us up and running ... and this is only guidelines mind !!

We want to follow full sized Rallycross RX as close as much as possible as it really is a great class .. ie. big power, low grip, short multi surface tracks and lots of proper racing !!!

So the race format will be four qualifying rounds of 6 lap races, using the round by round system, with 3 rounds to count and 1 drop score. This will give points in each round that count towards the main finals.

All starts, will be mass starts, (yay old school !!) comprising 2 rows of 3 cars, and these will be switched each qualifier ...

Finals ... not worked that out yet but most likely a slightly longer race than qualifying, so maybe 8 laps .. and depends on the track ..


.. and we'll also have the "joker" lap ...


Car specs -

Shaft drive rallycross style buggies converted to run on mostly tarmac tracks .. no belt drives .. 4wd recommended !!

Cars must run rally or rallycross style bodies .. or generic types like the Hyper GT rally or Protoform rally bodies ..

Max 3 cell lipos ... there was some questions about whether we have to run hardcase lipos but the word from the BRCA is that soft case lipos are OK, we would recommend some extra layers of heatshrink on these for some extra protection ..

Motors - sensored or sensorless , max 2400kv .. these are bonkers fast so not sure why anyone would want anything faster !


Tyres - after some research, our ideal spec tyre, is the GRP Revo cut slick rally tyre in S4 compound. These look realistic and give good grip when they get up to temperature but are still slideable ... and are said to last a whole season !!!!!

If you only have kit tyres .. its not a problem .. run what you have for the time being ..
Hopefully our local model shop RC Octane will be able to stock tyres for us in the near future ..

Think that's it ... please post or message me if you need any info or have ideas ..


Below are the club race dates that we'll be running Rallycross on during the summer -

15th May

19th June

3rd July

17th July

21st August

4th September















Some of you might have seen me playing around with this on the onroad track over the last couple of months ...

and at the weekend of the 4wd regionals there was a LOT of interest in the car.... and several guys talking of buying cars and running some Rallycross RX style meetings using a shortened version of the the onroad track.

So I thought I'd share some links for cars, tyres motors etc .. and see if we can get this off the ground !!

http://i.imgur.com/XWbdN96.jpg?2

[mrspeedy]

Mine was a 1/8 buggy that was converted to run onroad, but there are a few rally style cars that come ready to run ..

Cars like this -

http://www.rccaraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/basher_cc.jpg

http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__64857__Basher_BSR_1_8_Scale_4WD_Rally_Car_Ready_ To_Run_EU_Warehouse_.html


or this DS3 style ..

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p-qtjWxV4o0/UQ2W_LTlguI/AAAAAAAAY58/2CUWGEubHD8/s640/Hobbytech-STR8-RallyCar-1.jpg


http://www.the-border.com/HobbyTech-STR8-EPX2-DS3-Race-Roller.html



Hyper GT rolling chassis ..

http://www.wheelspinmodels.co.uk/i/229370/

http://www.ofna.com/images/hyper-gt-rtr-nitro/hyper-gt-right-side-750.jpg

[mrspeedy]

Here's a video of some 1/8 rallycross from France ??

Gives some idea of how they handle and how fast they are !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fORydB-GcU

[mrspeedy]

... and a few links to the gear that I've used .. you'll see how cheap it all is ...

and speed wise .. running at the weekend my car was only a little slower down the straight than a local National TC a finalist running a 4.5 motor on boost !!! and probably quicker out of the corners !!


This my motor - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__32125__Turnigy_TrackStar_1_8th_Sensored_Brushles s_Motor_2400KV.html


and fully programmable 150 amp speedo -

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__64619__TrackStar_150A_GenII_1_8th_Scale_Sensored _Brushless_Car_ESC_PC_Programmable_UK_Warehouse_.h tml


Lipo -

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__32178__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5800mAh_3S1P_30C_UK_Wareh ouse_.html?strSearch=Z58003s


Tyres area nice realistic GRP cut slick, I use the S4 compound, they grip pretty good but still allow a degree of drifting :)

They work out around £33 a set posted, and are said to last a whole season !!!

http://www.grpgandini.it/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=903&category_id=124&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6&lang=en

[swords]

This looks great, have raced 1/10th off road and 1?8th nitro off road in the past but havent raced for a couple of years since I retrained as a train driver and moved house, but this would definitely convince me to start again.

[mrspeedy]

There's a few of us have these now, so hopefully we'll soon have some organized racing with them !! :woot:

I really enjoy running my car around, only been on my own so far, well I've practiced with a few TC's but the 8th tends to scare them off the track !!!

Keep an eye on here or Mendip RC Raceway FB page for more updates ..

[carrot]

Is there anyone who brings the tyres into the uk?

[mrspeedy]

Not that I know of, there's some on ebay but its cheaper to buy direct from GRP in Italy !!

[mrspeedy]

A short vid of Dan Hardings first run with his shiney new Hyper GTe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPAh-kSigqk

[jonathan may]

http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/wheels-tyres/1-8th-off-road-wheels/race/schumacher/u6727-schumacher-venom-114-road-tyre-1-8-buggy-pr-p


Schumacher venom will propaly be quite good

[wezzer]

what are the Kit tyres like on the Hyper Gt si? just for our info ;-)

[RobPaynter]

Would this be eligible ???
http://shop.absima.com/RC-Cars/TEAM-C/Electric-1-8-1-10/Competition-KIT-1-8/1-8-EP-Onroad-Chassis-GT8LE-RA-4WD-Rally-KIT-long-version-.htm?shop=absima_en&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=GT8LE-RA&t=3&c=44&p=44

[mrspeedy]

what are the Kit tyres like on the Hyper Gt si? just for our info ;-)

They're seem to grip pretty good .. but I reckon you'd kill a set in a meeting !!

[mrspeedy]

Would this be eligible ???
http://shop.absima.com/RC-Cars/TEAM-C/Electric-1-8-1-10/Competition-KIT-1-8/1-8-EP-Onroad-Chassis-GT8LE-RA-4WD-Rally-KIT-long-version-.htm?shop=absima_en&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=GT8LE-RA&t=3&c=44&p=44

These are about 30mm longer than the chassis we run atm .. but yeah I don't see why not !!

[mrspeedy]

http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/wheels-tyres/1-8th-off-road-wheels/race/schumacher/u6727-schumacher-venom-114-road-tyre-1-8-buggy-pr-p


Schumacher venom will propaly be quite good

Maybe, would be great to run Schumacher tyres but It doesn't say if they're belted so I'm guessing NOT !! and considering the pretty high speeds I think a belted tyre is a must .. but try a set Jonathan let me know how they go ..

[mrspeedy]

link to some pics from our first test run on sunday - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1148643648480211.1073742001.600849449926303&type=3


The Hyper GT seems to handle really well out of the box with a few setup tweeks to diff oils ...

[Danosborne6661]

Excited for mine to arrive now! Full heat of 10 of us soon?! :thumbsup:

Would it be worth us getting a list of names together with people who now have a car? Just so others can see the number of people that will look to be racing them?

[mrspeedy]

Please check out the start of my first post for details ..

[mrspeedy]

John at RC Octane will have 6 of the Hyper Gt's coming in very soon if anyone is interested .. these seem to be very good straight out of the box and great value too .. :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

A little update to show you the runners and riders in our rallycross class ..

Si - Ofna GTP
Dan O - BSR Rally (basically Team C buggy with a different name !!)
Andy G- BSR Rally
Ben G - BSR Rally
Dan H - Hyper GT
Steve H - Hyper GT
Brian B - Hyper GT
John H - Hyper GT
Joe W - Hobbytech STR8 .. or maybe a Hyper Gt .. or ...
Jay - Associated Pro Rally
Rick - BSR Rally

[roderzz]

The more I look at these the more I want one....

[mrspeedy]

:thumbsup:

They're a lot of fun to drive ... racing them will be amazing !!

If you're local to Mendip come along for a look ... dates we're running are in the first post ..

[mrspeedy]

Rallycross on board footage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6YMiaoDtdg

[tonydevon]

Will do my best to get al9ng and try this. Looks great fun and lot less serious than buggies :)

[Danosborne6661]

For people looking for bodyshell options, I quite like the look of this one from Protoform named the PFRX :thumbsup:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272113060024?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://i.imgur.com/hDGWEAa.png

Just out of interest. Is anyone considering using a short course truck for the rally cross class? Being the same dimensions, you can add a body shell and some 8th adapters for tyres!

[Danosborne6661]

11 of us with rally cross cars now :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

1st round of Rallycross RX at Mendip THIS weekend !!!!!!!!


.... can't wait :woot:

[Danosborne6661]

Best finish building my car! Rallycross is on!

[mrspeedy]

Here's a link to a "speed calculator"

I've used this to work out overall top speed, and initial gearing for my cars setup, I aimed for around 45mph and this seems to be about right for rallycross on Mendip short track ..

http://www.scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html

[mrspeedy]

Our first round of Rallycross RX proved to be pretty popular straight off with 8 drivers turning out to run the 8th scale beasties !!!

The Hyper GT's looked good straight out of the box with most using the standard electrics listed above ...

The BSR's looked to run quite well and should go even better with a few tweeks .. some softer Hyper GT springs should work well as the std car is quite hard ...

Nearly everyone was running on the amazing GRP S4 compound cut slicks ... grip was great after a couple of laps on the tarmac .... but not quite so good on the grass :lol:

.. and here's a short vid of the days fun and frolics ... apologies for the dodgy editing !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia9rBul6s8c&feature=youtu.be

[mrspeedy]

Nearly 1000 views :woot:

Someone's interested !!!:thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

We need to talk bodies seeing as there really seems to be a growing interest in this class.

Choice isn't great really, stock Hyper GT actually looks better painted up in some decent colours in the flesh ..

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13029692_1148645868479989_2855982461260541750_o.jp g

[mrspeedy]

Associated Pro Rally body .. although a little pricey does a very good job of looking like the VW Polo rally car ..

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12984000_1148645348480041_2030644793625673310_o.jp g

[mrspeedy]

Hobbytech DS3 would look amazing painted up in Solberg colours .. need to save up a bit first !!!

http://img.xooimage.com/files90/5/d/1/ds3.-rc-3--3d1c54c.jpg

[terry.sc]

There are plenty of body options available from Delta Plastik
http://www.deltaplastik.it/?p=prodotti&l=eng&cat1=6&cat2=11&cat3=15

[mrspeedy]

:thumbsup: and not a bad price either, even shipped from Italy !!


The italians seems to have the majority of good body options ..

BYSM make some tidy bodyshells ..

Scooby -

http://www.bysm.it/immagini/7gt/100D0432.JPG

[mrspeedy]

Audi would paint up nice in Mattias Ekstrom Red Bull colours

http://www.bysm.it/immagini/9gt/100D0439.JPG

[mrspeedy]

Shop link - http://www.rcmodelstore.com/body-decal-body-rally-c-32_34.html

[VanRoy]

Looks Good, will have to save some pennies and get one in the near future .... will stick to our 1/10th Rallying at the Mo ...

[mrspeedy]

Good to hear that :thumbsup:

They're not expensive to get up and running, plenty of 2nd hand stuff on ebay as usual, thats where mine came from !!

[VanRoy]

So what am I looking for on EBay as i dont want to purchase the wrong car .....

[mrspeedy]

like this .. not used but actually brand new !!!!! says collection only mind !! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-1-8-scale-4WD-Brushless-Rally-Car-Basher-BSR-RTR-with-radio-gear-/162082684249?hash=item25bce17d59:g:UB0AAOSwnipWXDX 5

[Team 36]

Hi all hobao for sale in the for sale section on here can bring to tiverton on Sunday many thanks

[DynaMight]

I think a few at Mendip have bought the BSR Basher. It's ready to run for £200, just need to get some batteries.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__64857__Basher_BSR_1_8_Scale_4WD_Rally_Car_Ready_ To_Run_EU_Warehouse_.html

Not sure how they compare to the Hobao. They usually re-brand an existing car, for instance my BSR 4WD is a Team C. I think the 1/8th maybe a Team C GT8LE according to below.

Theres a big thread here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2397364

[mrspeedy]

There's a few with the BSR at Mendip now, cars is solid as a rock, and is basically a road going Team C buggy so no problem with spares at all. Springs are a little on the hard side but Hobo springs are softer and fit ok ..

Most have gone for the Hyper GT .. which is a rolling chassis and needs electrics but they're cheap and the car is a good performer.

Best price is from John at RC Octane, Mendips local shop - http://rcoctane.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home


He doesn't have them listed on the website yet, but they're going for £175 as a roller .. give him a call !!!

[simon]

Sounds like a great class............:thumbsup:

[Danosborne6661]

My BSR basher painted up with the Protoform PFRX bodyshell ready for tomorrow :thumbsup:

http://i.imgur.com/BDBhJNv.jpg

[Danosborne6661]

Ace meeting with the rallycrossers yesterday :thumbsup:

Also good to see so many new people with cars! The cars were really good in the rain, wasn't too hard to get them sideways :woot: For anyone that may be interested in running a car, I've seen some really cheap 8th electric buggies on ebay! All you would need is body mounts, a shell and a set of tyres and you'd be good to go.

For anyone running the BSR basher, I had mine going really well yesterday.

- Shocks - 50wt all round, kit Hobao GTB springs all round (part numbers H90077, H90078), shocks all led down on the towers
- Diff oil - Front 20,000, rear 10,000
- Bodyshell Protoform PFRX
- GRP Revo S4 tyres

Other than that, kit!

[VanRoy]

Were you running the BSR Basher 2s or 3s as looking at the Stock spec it says 2s just wondering just in case i get one.

[Dombrasky]

Hi VanRoy
I run the Basher and as it comes, its setup for 2x2s lipos...we run just the one 3s lipo

[VanRoy]

Many thanks soon as i get shot of my Mini a 8th is on the cards

[mrspeedy]

A Mendip club member has a BSR rally up for sale ... RTR with lipos too .. £170 if I remember right .. and only been used once !!!!!


If you're interested let me know and I can forward you his number :thumbsup:

[VanRoy]

Need to get shot of the M05 and a RZ-4 before i go buy another car, but when i do i will be interested .... Many Thanks .

[Danosborne6661]

Good meeting again last Sunday with the Rally cars!

The scale paint job of the Escort was wicked :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

The brilliant GRP S4 wheel/tyre combo that we use are now available at a great price from RCOctane ...

Doesn't look like they're listed on the website yet but give John a ring and he'll sort out !!!

http://rcoctane.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home

[VanRoy]

Hi all before I go and order a BSR has anyone got a 8th Rally car for sale .... also apart from a Lipo and wheels and tyres is there anything else i need ???

[Dombrasky]

Hi
19 or 20 tooth pinion..mod 1 for a 5mm shaft

[VanRoy]

Many thanks. Is it in my interest to change shock oils etc ??

[Dombrasky]

setup and shock oils you can alter to taste later ...I did mine as there was some shocks that had air, or not much oil in them

[tonydevon]

A Mendip club member has a BSR rally up for sale ... RTR with lipos too .. £170 if I remember right .. and only been used once !!!!!


If you're interested let me know and I can forward you his number :thumbsup:

do you know if this is still available?

thanks

[mrspeedy]

sorry no its gone ..

[philjc]

this looks like so much fun lol

[mrspeedy]

It does !! But its even better to drive :thumbsup:

The cars feel very much like you would think a full sized Rallycross car does !!

Fast and wild :woot:

Could be a big class at Mendip ...

[tonydevon]

my first thought at seeing them last weekend was that its like largescale, but at a fraction of the cost, could buy 2 RX setups for the cost of 1 engine LOL

love the way they move about, and pitch under braking etc

really want to have a play, just trying to hold out for a used one to save some funds

[philjc]

It does !! But its even better to drive :thumbsup:

The cars feel very much like you would think a full sized Rallycross car does !!

Fast and wild :woot:

Could be a big class at Mendip ...


I think im in!! been googleing for ages now hahahaha

[tonydevon]

Could I use an associated RC8e for rallycross.
Looks like change shell wheels and sort body mounts somehow

[mrspeedy]

Sounds ideal, there's plenty buggies around for a good price that could be converted.

Dan is in the process of converting a RB One buggy he bought new for peanuts, he's going to post up some pics of his progress with the conversion.

The BSR body posts and bumper look like they'll bolt on pretty easy .. parts available from Hobbyking ... :thumbsup:

[Dombrasky]

My BSR with Protoform PFRX shell

http://i.imgur.com/dvxgcFs.jpg

[tonydevon]

Cool thanks.
Just bought the rc8e
Has hobbywing ESC motor etc. Looks good and happy with price
Now to order bodyshell. Sort some mounts and get tyres.
That's +1 for next club round 😁

[tonydevon]

Do I need brca approved lipo for club meeting.
Is soft lipo OK ordo I need hardcase
Sorry for questions but don't want to buy wrong thing and waste money

[Dombrasky]

We have checked on this and softcase lipos are fine to use...the prices are not much different now either..so whats available really

[tonydevon]

Thanks. Bodyshell ordered :)
Going to be like christmas when the postman comes.
Need to make body mounts.

[mrspeedy]

Good to hear you're getting sorted !!!

Re the lipo's .. there's no issue using softcase, we checked with BRCA and doesn't affect insurance or anything ..

There's a link at the beginning of the thread to the one's we've been using and they work well, there's also cheap Floureon lipo's on ebay which some have used and they seem fine, you don't need massive run time ... 3000 plus is all you need for our sprint races, although more mah = more punch :thumbsup:

[tonydevon]

thought I share this, its slightly shorter wheelbase, Im hoping that I can just manipulate the arches LOL

from my research the WR8 is 300mm wheelbase

most the cars seem to be 320 330?

but for £18 quid I thought it worth a gamble

found the ken bloc one but at £40 I wasnt prepared to gable that much LOL

my shell should be here next couple of days, will see how it sits over the RC8e buggy Im converting, then its time to look at mounts, sticky back plastic, and washing up liquid bottles at the ready :)

http://www.pbmracing.co.uk/products/sale/_p_1658_FORD-FIESTA-ABU-DHABI-WRC-BODY-WHITEGREENRED/

http://hpiracing.world/assets/images/cache/108025_mg_9052_e_800_600.jpg

[mrspeedy]

You might find it a bit narrow too ..

[tonydevon]

ah... ok, best open the bin then LOL

just wanted to try and avoid having a shell like the basher same as others

just seen the width difference, blimey, ypu thats £20 odd quid in the bin LOL

looks like I be ordering from hobbyking asap :(

[Dombrasky]

As in previous posts the only decent shell that fits is the protoform,unless you import from the Italian sites mentioned... the ken block will not fit either :(
its suprising how you can make the same shell look different.. mine Dans and the one used in the link are the same shell
http://www.apexmodels.com/gbu0-prodshow/PLINE-PL1540-40.html

[tonydevon]

yeah should have read properly and checked LOL,

have ordered another shell now.

BSR basher shell on its way, will just do something to it to make it stand out from the rest, knowing me I be trying to control the wrong car LOL

plan is to cut down and stick a nice L plate on the roof LOL LOL

maybe on the chassis too, probably spend most time upside down

[mrspeedy]

I've got one of these sat on these shelf if you're interested ...

http://www.iracing.it/images/large/sm7_ZXFkbW2qZYYT_large.jpg

[Danosborne6661]

My BSR with Protoform PFRX shell

http://i.imgur.com/dvxgcFs.jpg

Looks better now it has a few more battle scars from the last meeting Rick :p

[tonydevon]

Anyone got any pics or tips for bodymount setup when converting a buggy.

Think a front foam bumper setup be good too.

[tonydevon]

body mounts are rather.. hmmm how can I put it, over engineered LOL, only offcuts of ally I could find in the scrap bin LOL

will lighten and then anodise them later :)

had a play round carpark and love the way these handle, awesome fun hanging it out sideways and sliding it around, never driven 4wd cars before, good laugh,


http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/tony-devon/13906952_10157205194260693_1498062673164049373_n_z psperqgyh9.jpg (http://s74.photobucket.com/user/tony-devon/media/13906952_10157205194260693_1498062673164049373_n_z psperqgyh9.jpg.html)

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[mrspeedy]

Looks chunky !!!

Be interested to see how the Rc8 runs .. always fancied one :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

Just in case anyone missed it ...

We'll be running Rallycross at Mendip this weekend 7th, alongside the 4wd regional :thumbsup:

[tonydevon]

Its ready for the weekend. Feel free to have a go.
Its a lovely car. Ebay bargain.
Its the better version with lots of alloy parts.
Came with xerun brushless setup and ezrun setup. Loads of tyres spares oils etc.

Been well looked after. 135 quid.
Shell 25 quid
Battery 25 quid.
So for 185 quid im ready to rock n roll and crash lol

Ive gone pretty simple setup.
-1 camber all round
Suspension setup feels nice lol.

Only managed to play round car park.

Not sure how much timing to run on the motor. Have to see how it compares to the others on the straight.

[Danosborne6661]

Looks mega that Tony!

Slightly chunky on the body mounts :lol:

Be prepared to order a new body shell too. The BSR shells are made out of a strange material that isn't lexan, they fall apart pretty quickly! It's about the only thing that is a bit weak on the BSR :)

Other than that, it's been a common set-up tweak to lie on the shocks right down, just like a touring car. Perhaps something worth trying on race day!

[tonydevon]

Cheers shell was cheap. Just to get me racing.

What about gearing and centre diff.
Ive gone 19t pinion but now hearing online of 21 and 22 in use :(

Are you locking centre diffs up

Running mild motor timing and punch. Worried it might be bit slow.

[Dombrasky]

Hi
you will have to see how it compares to the others for speed...depends on what the overall gearing of your RC8 is and spur size tbh,also the GRP wheels are a bit smaller than stock buggy so you need to go up 2 or 3
The BSR has a solid centre diff std, but some of the hobaos are locking theres with hot glue or blue tack ive heard

[metalmickey0]

Hey all. I now got a Bsr. Bought dans old one and getting it race ready. Just need body posts. Going to run kit shell til I can afford a new one lol.

[Danosborne6661]

What a meeting yesterday! The final was a text book rally cross race, any of us could of had the win between the top 4! The joker laps played into it perfectly.

My RB convert was going better towards the end, hopefully shows you can buy an affordable buggy and convert it quite easily. I'll get some photos up soon to show how I've converted it.

[mrspeedy]

Great days Rallycrossing !!!

Top 5 in the A final were covered by just 5 seconds in the end !!!

Vid of the days fun and frolics ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazNUTzhktU

[Gupz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lNEwsBGrTU&feature=youtu.be

Link to the A final from last Sunday :thumbsup:

[tonydevon]

you quick guys are great to watch, sorry dont know names but the orange one with bull on the side was ballistic, what a beast, so glad that it was easy zero marshalling with you lot as it gave chance to watch.



mines apart for some work LOL, center diff was open, all 3 diffs empty, yup totally empty.... some blutac and thick oils on way in there LOL


is there any UK suppliers of shells or do I need to buy from Italy?

[Danosborne6661]

I've locked my centre diff with Shoe goo Tony :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

That my rocket you were watching ... !! Simon BTW :thumbsup:

Yours looked pretty good for first time out ... its amazing what difference changing diff oils can make ... 5000 in the back and 20,000 up front is a good starting place ...

Body choice isn't great from UK shops TBH ..

Rally Mondeo is popular and cheap - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Protoform-PFRX-Rallycross-Body-Clear-1-10-Rally-SC-Use-Ext-Unpainted-PL15-/302036107061?hash=item4652c13f35:g:2DQAAOSwxehXPaY 4

This is what I run .. not cheap but does seem quite tough ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Associated-Qualifier-Pro-Rally-Bodyshell-Clear-AS7180-/272252898595?hash=item3f63898d23:g:OlEAAOSw41xXPSR I


or you can look here for some more unusual rally bodies ..

http://www.deltaplastik.it/?p=prodotti&l=ita&cat1=6&cat2=11&cat3=15

[knighthawk]

I was watching some of the heats and finals last Sunday
Really interested in this class !

Looking for something different over the winter
Will you be running a winter series for this class ?

[mrspeedy]

I can't imagine a better class to run over the winter tbh ..

so yeah we will definitely be running through the winter ... bring on the snow :thumbsup:

[Danosborne6661]

The more weather, the more rallying :thumbsup:

These 8th cars are certainly built to take it!

[Gupz]

Time for a bit of a edit on my original post now that we actually have peeps with cars that want to race .... and still growing interest in the class !!!

So, some general guidelines for the class to get us up and running ... and this is only guidelines mind !!

We want to follow full sized Rallycross RX as close as much as possible as it really is a great class .. ie. big power, low grip, short multi surface tracks and lots of proper racing !!!

So the race format will be four qualifying rounds of 6 lap races, using the round by round system, with 3 rounds to count and 1 drop score. This will give points in each round that count towards the main finals.

All starts, will be mass starts, (yay old school !!) comprising 2 rows of 3 cars, and these will be switched each qualifier ...

Finals ... not worked that out yet but most likely a slightly longer race than qualifying, so maybe 8 laps .. and depends on the track ..


.. and we'll also have the "joker" lap ...


Car specs -

Shaft drive rallycross style buggies converted to run on mostly tarmac tracks .. no belt drives .. 4wd recommended !!

Cars must run rally or rallycross style bodies .. or generic types like the Hyper GT rally or Protoform rally bodies ..

Max 3 cell lipos ... there was some questions about whether we have to run hardcase lipos but the word from the BRCA is that soft case lipos are OK, we would recommend some extra layers of heatshrink on these for some extra protection ..

Motors - sensored or sensorless , max 2400kv .. these are bonkers fast so not sure why anyone would want anything faster !


Tyres - after some research, our ideal spec tyre, is the GRP Revo cut slick rally tyre in S4 compound. These look realistic and give good grip when they get up to temperature but are still slideable ... and are said to last a whole season !!!!!

If you only have kit tyres .. its not a problem .. run what you have for the time being ..
Hopefully our local model shop RC Octane will be able to stock tyres for us in the near future ..

Think that's it ... please post or message me if you need any info or have ideas ..


Below are the club race dates that we'll be running Rallycross on during the summer -

15th May

19th June

3rd July

17th July

21st August

4th September

18th September













Some of you might have seen me playing around with this on the onroad track over the last couple of months ...

and at the weekend of the 4wd regionals there was a LOT of interest in the car.... and several guys talking of buying cars and running some Rallycross RX style meetings using a shortened version of the the onroad track.

So I thought I'd share some links for cars, tyres motors etc .. and see if we can get this off the ground !!

Evening all,

Just a quick update for you guys as there seems to be a mistake on the championship dates....

Round 6 - 21st August

Round 7 - 4th September - Final round with trophy presentation.

The weekend previously advertised for the final round (18th Sept) is the Mendip Masters of the Astroturf weekend and will only have pre paid entries for 2wd and 4wd 1/10 off road classes.

Apologies for the mix up.

[mrspeedy]

Thanks Matt .. I've updated the original race day list :thumbsup:

[metalmickey0]

My car is now ready for battle. Just need to find out next race date
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k92/metalmickey1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/322B6EF3-70EF-496C-A10A-0AD5CAD3230C_zps7aioflu9.jpg (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/metalmickey1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/322B6EF3-70EF-496C-A10A-0AD5CAD3230C_zps7aioflu9.jpg.html)

[metalmickey0]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RF5PA_yBkxAsQ0XGUwy0OSmyOGvkhaPN2A

[Dombrasky]

last round of the summer Rallx champs at Mendip this Sunday 4th sept :thumbsup:

Winter Wonder Series :
Oct 23rd-30th
Nov 13th-27th
Dec 11th
Jan 1st-22nd
Feb 12th-26th
march 12th

10 rounds 6 to count

*These have been updated and are correct as of 2nd Oct 2016

[tonydevon]

them BSR shells are cheap and ideal, think they about 21 quid all ready to go

but I would look at lining it with gaffer tape or similar for winter, no idea what they made from but its not polycarb, they will shatter and snap, no idea how they will take a knock in the cold winter

Im about to order the painted associated one, £58 :(

[mrspeedy]

yeah the Associated bodies are not cheap, but I must say I've beat the hell out of my AE body this summer and it still looks really good !! Its worth lining the front wings and bumper edges with spare polycarb and shoe goo to proling its life ... :thumbsup:

[metalmickey0]

Did anybody take any photos of this weekend?

[mrspeedy]

If anyone is after slightly more realistic and up to date bodyshell, then take a close look at the Vaterra Fiesta body.

Width is quoted as 296mm .. and wheelbase 333mm so check your chassis will fit first !!

But looks pretty close to most chassis sizes ..

Wheelspin and Modelsport have them in stock .. wing is extra mind !!

loads more pics here - http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/autoonline/j1-vaterra/j1-ford-fiesta.html

http://rcracingtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/vaterra-rockstar-ford-fiesta-rallycross-horizon-hobby1.jpg

[Novice]

I can confirm the Vattera fiesta shell fits the basher perfectly , there are a few of us running bashers in the Saundersfoot club with a few different shells and we are following Mendip on set up and having loads of fun in the process . Hopefully planning a visit sometime , I would attach some pics but I can never figure it out:confused:.

[Novice]

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[mrspeedy]

Thanks for confirming that !! Its nice to know it fits before spending out on these bodies .. they're not cheap !!

Whats the quality like ? most bodies seem to last quite well .. I'm running the Associated and I've beat the hell out of it but its still looking very tidy !!

Good to hear the rallycross word is spreading .. be great to have you guys over ... :thumbsup:


205 looks awesome btw :)

[Novice]

Vaterra shell is good quality and it fits tight to the bumper so doesn't tend to crack , 205 shell is a Delta one it looks even better in the flesh also fits tight to the bumper . We have taken our inspiration from you Mendip guys it looked so much fun we gave it a go and its awesome ! We have just started running joker laps and the result is EVEN MORE FUN !!!! we run for 5 minutes with 2 jokers first race 4 in the second and 6 in the next 2 the resulting gap fluctuation is amazing but we all end up on the same lap by the end? You have really found something here that's both fun and really competitive and relatively cheap. Hope you don't mind me posting on here but I have the feeling we wont be the only club following your lead . Cheers Andrew.:thumbsup:

[Rs fruitbat]

just started running joker laps and the result is EVEN MORE FUN !!!! we run for 5 minutes with 2 jokers first race 4 in the second and 6 in the next 2 the resulting gap fluctuation is amazing but we all end up on the same lap by the end? You have really found something here that's both fun and really competitive and relatively cheap. Hope you don't mind me posting on here but I have the feeling we wont be the only club following your lead . Cheers Andrew.:thumbsup:

I'll be joining the carnage next week , hope you have a target painted on the back of your 205 shell :lol:

[tonydevon]

Will the rallycross run thru the winter?

Just rebuilt mine and its totally different now the diffs are sorted

[Dombrasky]

We will be for sure Tony... Dates are in above post 103
great to hear this addictive class is growing and as Si (mrspeedy) said, it will be great for you lot to come over sometime :thumbsup:

[Danosborne6661]

Perfect winter class in my opinion! These cars are TOUGH :thumbsup: The spray coming off the cars is going to look awesome!

[tonydevon]

Just to share a small tip. If your car started out like mine did as a buggy then refit the buggy shell with velcro. Rally shell over the top.

I have been out hammering mine round the carpark at lunch. Pouring rain.
Huge fun now the diffs are sorted.
S4 dont work as well in wet lol.
But inside the inner shell is dry and clean :)

[blue_pinky]

Updated Winter Wonder race dates now confirmed...

http://www.mendiprcraceway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Winter-wonder-2016-17.jpg

These now make sure we don't clash with the other clubs in the area, so fingers crossed the hardcore racers are up for some winter fun ;)

[mrspeedy]

Awesome !!! can't wait to run rallycross over the winter :thumbsup:

and for anyone wanting to run in rallycross this winter .. we'll be running the same spec tyre we have run all year which is the GRP S4 tyre available from RC Octane on site ...

Hopefully we'll also have some polycarbonate underbodies for sale to keep everything dry and cosy inside just in case we get a drop of rain !!!

[tonydevon]

what tyres for wet races??

waiting for new bodyshell, paint, some bumpers and bodymounts to arrive, 44T spur also on order to try and get the gearing back to sensible ratio

if anyone has an RC8e to convert to rally cross, then I am pretty sure that the mounts and bumpers from the associated qualifier pro rally will fit

will confirm soon as the parts arrive

[mrspeedy]

For the moment, the GRP S4 is the tyre we'll be running wet or dry, same for all :thumbsup:

I know there are wet tyres available from GRP, RC Octane has them in stock.

But we need to test them before we allow them to be used. What we don't want to get into, is tyres that wear out fast so that you need a new set every meeting, that would go against the principles of the class being cheap to run.

But we'll see, its all open for discussion :thumbsup:

BTW .... first round of Rallycross is this weekend :woot::woot::woot::woot:

[Danosborne6661]

Great meeting with the Rallycross and a huge 14 of us! Great to see :)

Get your shells polished, as I think I'll do a bit of a promotional video this coming weekend (31st of October)

[mrspeedy]

We're now on FaceBook :thumbsup:

Everything you need to know about RC Rallycross !!!

Mendip members and non members welcome !!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1153985884640239/

or search Mendip RC Rallycross

[mrspeedy]

A and B final videos form the weekend ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hof5gZSSKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmn-15ZmTGY

[andrewc]

Fairly sure this reply will seem quite random...!

My name is Andrew Coley, I'm the TV commentator for the FIA World Rallycross Championship, which makes me a very lucky chap IMO.

I've been a member on here since 2013; currently racing 10th scale buggies at the club me and two mates founded 2 and a half years ago down here in Hastings. I raced RC cars as a teenager, Tamiya, Schumacher, etc, left the sport for full size motorsport for nearly 20 years, and as above am now back and loving it again.

Just basically wanted to drop you a line and say how brilliant I think the series is, love the fact you do joker laps too, all mega!!

Congrats to all involved. :thumbsup:

[Gupz]

It's been a mega fun class so far, but it's popularity will soon see the competition become a bit more serious :)

You should come down and race with the guys sometime and maybe do a bit of commentating?? :)

Link to last Sundays A Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hof5gZSSKM

Link to B Final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmn-15ZmTGY

[mrspeedy]

Hi Andrew .. you are indeed a VERY lucky chap :woot::woot:

We are all HUGE fans of Rallycross RX and all follow it over on Quest :thumbsup:

When we set the class up earlier this year our aim was to copy as close as possible the full sized version ... so we run sprint races for points, joker laps, spec tyres and no tyre warming so the first couple of laps is interesting !!!

Great to hear you follow us .. our FB page is here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1153985884640239/1178802518825242/?notif_t=group_activity&notif_id=1478114543313837

If you're ever down our way come in and see us .. and if you could bring Petter, Seb and Mattias would be even better :lol:

[andrewc]

Petter used to race Tamiya, there's an old video of him winning a Tamiya national series in Norway somewhere in youtube! : )

If I'm in your neck of the woods I'll give you a shout, likewise if any of you end up at a WorldRX round let me know and I'll do my best to show you round.

: )

[mrspeedy]

Now I might have to take you up on that !!! :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

We've had some great racing this year in Rallycross, and numbers are way beyond anything we could have expected and I have to say the racing has been out of this world .. and all the guys supporting us in this class have been great ... congrats to you all and thanks for coming along ..

So serious bit ... generally our rules have been loose ... kinda clubmans rules really ... and to be honest we don't really need many to make it work in Rallycross... The only one we really want to stick with, is tyres !!! So as of Jan 2017, GRP S4 compound tyres will be the only tyre allowed to be used for the championship. These as you all know are available trackside from RcOctane at approx £33 a set.
The only other addition to that is that we will all need to be running hardcase lipos as of April.

[Danosborne6661]

Fairly sure this reply will seem quite random...!

My name is Andrew Coley, I'm the TV commentator for the FIA World Rallycross Championship, which makes me a very lucky chap IMO.

I've been a member on here since 2013; currently racing 10th scale buggies at the club me and two mates founded 2 and a half years ago down here in Hastings. I raced RC cars as a teenager, Tamiya, Schumacher, etc, left the sport for full size motorsport for nearly 20 years, and as above am now back and loving it again.

Just basically wanted to drop you a line and say how brilliant I think the series is, love the fact you do joker laps too, all mega!!

Congrats to all involved. :thumbsup:

Now that is cool!! I am mighty mighty jealous and it's awesome to have your approval on our slightly smaller rallycross class :thumbsup: Are we going to see Jenson Button on the grid with you guys next season? :yawn:

As above, we would just like to reiterate that the control tyre for this class is the GRP Revo S4. We've seen some people go quickly on other tyres so we would like to keep the class as close as possible :thumbsup:

We MAY introduce a wet tyre in the near future, but can you believe it or not we haven't had a wet meeting yet! We'll cross this bridge when we come to it :)

Video of the finals from Sunday to follow I believe!

[mrspeedy]

A Final video from sunday ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X65taYKO9N4&feature=youtu.be

[Danosborne6661]

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A-final

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B-final

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[mrspeedy]

cleverdick !:p

[Danosborne6661]

cleverdick !:p

I knew your reply was going to say that before I even clicked on it :lol:

[mrspeedy]

Cleverdick :p ;)

[reg]

Fairly sure this reply will seem quite random...!

My name is Andrew Coley, I'm the TV commentator for the FIA World Rallycross Championship, which makes me a very lucky chap IMO.

I've been a member on here since 2013; currently racing 10th scale buggies at the club me and two mates founded 2 and a half years ago down here in Hastings. I raced RC cars as a teenager, Tamiya, Schumacher, etc, left the sport for full size motorsport for nearly 20 years, and as above am now back and loving it again.

Just basically wanted to drop you a line and say how brilliant I think the series is, love the fact you do joker laps too, all mega!!

Congrats to all involved. :thumbsup:

Got to be the best job in the world!ever 👌🏼Love WRX 😍
Just wish the TV coverage was better,bloody awesome it's now in HD but Eurosport's is so bloody random,got it recorded on Tuesday only to find it was the snooker 😫

[timmy]

Just wish the TV coverage was better,bloody awesome it's now in HD but Eurosport's is so bloody random,got it recorded on Tuesday only to find it was the snooker ��

Its always live on Quest - semi finals and finals with highlights of the qualifying heats :thumbsup:....not sure of the channel number.... 140 something I think

[Novice]

Just a quick note guys I have a Basher and a Hobao for sale on the SAUNDERSFOOT MODEL CAR CLUB facebook page . I didn't want to share it on your page without asking but take a look before I put them on here or on ebay and please feel free to share.

[mrspeedy]

Already seen it and sent a guy in your direction :thumbsup: but no worries about posting on FB .. Mendip Rallycross now has a "for sale" section you can post in ...

[Novice]

Will do.

[reg]

Its always live on Quest - semi finals and finals with highlights of the qualifying heats :thumbsup:....not sure of the channel number.... 140 something I think
Thanks buddy,ill have to wait till next year now 😆 but found the channel 👍🏼

[andrewc]

I'm a very lucky chap I know!

Button... remains to be seen which series he'll try initially. Although finished in F1 his ongoing Honda contract may limit what he can drive next year.

TV deals for WorldRX to be renegotiated/announced over winter ; ) We get lots of feedback re quest not being HD, so fingers crossed an upgrade soon.

I'm on FB and Twitter if you ever want to ask anything, happy to pop on here occasionally too though don't want to clutter up your forum section with my ramblings!

[mrspeedy]

Hey its all Rallycross .. large or small :lol:

Any gossip feel free to post it on here ... I'm sure it will make for good reading ..

and for anyone not seen this years World RX .. firstly why not !!! and second .. most of it is on youtube ... go check it out !!

and as for Jenson in Rallycross ... watch this from a few months back - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J30f5YG_KnM

[Danosborne6661]

Video is coming along nicely after some editing last night

All filmed in SLOOOOOOW MO

Should have something together by early next week :woot:

[Danosborne6661]

More RallyCross tomorrow, but for now - HERE'S THE VID! Hope you all like :thumbsup:

Make sure to go through to YouTube and watch it in 1080 ;)

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[Danosborne6661]

MEGA turn-out of 28 rallycrossers yesterday! :woot:

[mrspeedy]

Round 7 of the fastest growing class in the South West coming at you this weekend at Mendip RC Raceway ...

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16106067_1519856838042118_1404732357113540512_n.jp g?oh=aad72b10bc6a4c981622aeba649361e1&oe=5922400B

[Danosborne6661]

WOOOHOOO! :thumbsup:

[Dombrasky]

Round 7 of the fastest growing class in the South West coming at you this weekend at Mendip RC Raceway ...

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16106067_1519856838042118_1404732357113540512_n.jp g?oh=aad72b10bc6a4c981622aeba649361e1&oe=5922400B

Sorry no hot food

[mrspeedy]

Round 9 this weekend:woot::woot::woot::thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

Video of A final from round 8 !!

.. dry track but not much grip out there !!

https://www.facebook.com/simon.osborne.58/videos/1193601274071043/

[Danosborne6661]

What a great series it's been now the winter series is wrapped up! And a record number of 29 Rallycrossers giving us 3x heats of 10 :woot:

Sound's like there will be a few more guys joining us at the start of the summer series too :thumbsup:

[mrspeedy]

Rallycross day at Mendip ..

https://scontent.fbrs1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17834275_1609502882410846_7632614482934415468_o.jp g?oh=8d6f43d4fd4db540be7b5f2d65171a6b&oe=599804BC

[mrspeedy]

Mendip Rallycross open meeting is on this weekend at Mendip Rc Raceway... if you're in the area and want to see the fastest growing class in the South West drop by for a look :thumbsup:

[Danosborne6661]

Great meeting!

Here's the vid from Leg 2 of the A-final :)

Would recommend clicking through to watch it as the crop seems a little weird on oOple!

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[mrspeedy]

WE have jumps !!!

Video of the last of the 3 leg A final from our recent Autumn GP ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0cNbH2-Epk

[mrspeedy]

A Final video from our latest round of Rallycross ...

Who though a mega fast on road track with jumps would be a winning combination !!! :woot::woot::thumbsup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBUHRgm23G8&feature=share

[Neil Skull]

That's awesome, shame you are so far away :(
Last time i raced there was the Kyosho Cup !!!

[mrspeedy]

Its a lot of fun :thumbsup: .. and dare I say for me, it has the best of every class I've every raced :woot:

... and mass starts for every qualifier and every final ... what's not to like :lol:

We have a Face Book page too for anyone that wants to find a little more info .. currently running at over 200 members !!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1153985884640239/

[mrspeedy]

Low grip and super fast cars .... must be Rallycross at Mendip !!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8rAMRJeeBI&feature=youtu.be

[mrspeedy]

Rallycross A final video from the weekend ...

after 3 years of running, this class is just as popular as ever !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqAg_DMPMw0&feature=youtu.be

[mrspeedy]

Still mad for it !!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdI-0sPdFXg&t=125s

[mrspeedy]

Last of the 3 leg A final from our Summer Rallycross GP ..

Reverse grid mixed it up a bit !!

Probably one of our best track layouts .. fast cars, jumps, astro and loose tarmac .. whats not to love about Rallycross :woot::woot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NM8F1CAdno&feature=youtu.be

[mrspeedy]

5 years in now OMG where has that gone .. !!!

The RX class is still strong at Mendip with new members joining regularly and loving the relaxed atmos and intense racing ..

and still my favourite class of all time :)

check out our of our vids from last year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ELBOVeeQM&t=90s