'New' KF?

[bish]

From RCTech. The quest for a KF for dirt...spotted at the Euros. Anyone got any details? Looks like a bolted on mid gearbox!

[neallewis]

From RCTech. The quest for a KF for dirt...spotted at the Euros. Anyone got any details? Looks like a bolted on mid gearbox!

SV2 parts bin I heard?

[AdrianH78]

On the 'Euro coverage' thread, there is a suggestion that its a TLR mid gearbox by one member?

I think it certainly went well as didn't this one finish 3rd overall? I think a B6 piloted by Neil Cragg finished first, wasn't sure the make of the car that finished 2nd..

In fact if this was a low medium grip race, I bet this will be a replacement KR

One thing with all the Euro coverage, no one got sneaky photos of the cars close up unlike the Worlds :(

[bish]

Yeah, sorry that was me! Someone on RCTech suggested the TLR gearbox and I wondered if it was true. The picture certainly suggests a stand up gearbox. I wondered if there was any word from the UK about any detail.

[micholix]

I could be totaly wrong, but it looks more like a modified and twisted trans upper part from the KR to me!?
If Schumacher does release this car, it would be nice, they keep the easy to reasamble the transmission housing, to get to the diff...

We'll see?:woot:

[CARB]

Seems like it could be a KF-D, it does not look like they have raided the SV2 for the part as the motor is on the other side

[micholix]

Does anyone know, if there are more pics of Michal's, or Perter's car, or from the Euros at all?
I allmost bought an SV2 pro from the german distributor, but luckily did not yet, as i've never been happy with an 4-gear transmission, so will holding off and looking forward, what Schumacher will hopefully bring...:thumbsup:

[CARB]

if there is going to be new dirt car and not just a revamped SV2 as per used at the recent euros, could this mean a new carpet car that does away with the belt system that the KF2 has.
if they went to a new gear transmission this would solve the dirt ingress that the ball diff suffers with, and have less parts and less friction and rotating mass than the belts that has lay shafts double reduction gears belt tensioners and a carbon top deck arrangement to provide a consistent belt tension.

[micholix]

Any news, or rumour from the new car?:drool:

[Wolvie]

The sv2 is no more available...

[badger5]

Looks like a three gear stand up transmission, maybe a KR tranny swapped around, I see a new rear shock tower and mount as well.
It's about time Schuey updated the Cougar, I wonder if they will do a three gear lay down gearbox as well?

[micholix]

Nice would be, instead of an three gear stand up transmission, a belt driven transmission!:thumbsup:

Hope, we'll see soon...

[madmax]

From what Ive been told it is an all new car.

[mark christopher]

From what Ive been told it is an all new car.


please tell us more!

[AntH]

Will be interesting to see what they come up with. No point in making a clone of the other gear cars. Got to be configurable for all surfaces. Hopefully some sort of interesting belt drive car that allows a more rearwards motor position than KF with still a forward motor position possible too. Maybe the motor will rotate in the other direction in car with the forward mount. Could get rid of the final hangover from the 80s, 25 degree front kick. Moving to 15 degree would be an advantage on high traction, less pitch. Also B6 style arm outer pivot position adjustment, that is quite neat.

If not, how about a 5 gear laydown car that gets the motor even further forward than the current crop of 3 gear laydowns... Anyway, just a bit of armchair engineering!

[Bob Barry]

If you want the car to have more of a piece of the pie over here in the US, you'll want to have a 3 gear, low rotating mass option for all the 17.5 spec guys. In most of the country, 17.5 is equal to mod. That's why you are seeing TLR and AE market cars that way.

And yes I know that the majority if this site's traffic is in EU, but it would be awesome to capture a piece of the North American pie.

[Wolvie]

Any fresh news?

[micholix]

Would be interrested in some news too, but as the indoor season is right now, i'll guess, we just will hear in spring '17 more from this car!?:confused:

[CARB]

After winning R2 both classes in Poland and brilliant results at R1 in Germany with the Current cars, could the new car be a stadium truck as this seems to be a good move for both Europe and the States.

[Bob Barry]

I disagree. Stadium Truck in the US is a niche thing. It'll be popular for a month or two then die off. You want sustainability in the US, build a 17.5 car. You look at all the big indoor tracks over the country and 17.5 outnumbers mod by a 3-1 and 4-1 margin. It's weird. I can tell you that most of the tracks I race at have guys running 17.5 in the mod class. They use the same car for both 17.5 and mod so that they can run 2 classes with only 1 car.

[bish]

That's strange. Why limit to 17.5 but then spend a fortune on trying to go fast?

[brian s]

next kf ??
http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr24/brianspooner/new%20kf_zpszxvg20mo.jpg[/URL]

[matt]

Just been looking at this on redrc. Extra side gear and I like the chassis stiffener.

[matt]

http://events.redrc.net/2017/01/chassis-focus-michal-orlowski-5/

[Stevebolt]

I was wondering if a belt could be used instead of an extra side gear . A bit like the old rc10 hyperdrive.

[Danosborne6661]

Orlowski certainly managed to make all the others look a little slow in the DHI A-final!

[CARB]

Attention to detail, notice the blue tack to balance the near side front wheel in the image above.
Adding a third gear mean's another shaft, two bearing, lock nut and extra alloy to carry the assemble. But is it getting a little to complex and would this work outside.
The car sure did look to be quick and very stable, even the 4 wd was fast and made the new Serpent look slow, and that should be one of the quickest with the history of its designer and driver.

[jpmatrix]

Attention to detail, notice the blue tack to balance the near side front wheel in the image above.
Adding a third gear mean's another shaft, two bearing, lock nut and extra alloy to carry the assemble. But is it getting a little to complex and would this work outside.
The car sure did look to be quick and very stable, even the 4 wd was fast and made the new Serpent look slow, and that should be one of the quickest with the history of its designer and driver.

Are you referring to the new serpent sdx4? Is that with the current k2 or a new 4wd buggy from Schumacher?

[micholix]

I was wondering if a belt could be used instead of an extra side gear . A bit like the old rc10 hyperdrive.

Interresting idea!:thumbsup:

[Mwarren]

There's also a front roll bar on the car. It's not connected to the wishbones but all of the other parts are there 🤔

[bish]

2 pad slipper as well.

[Groomi]

There's also a front roll bar on the car. It's not connected to the wishbones but all of the other parts are there 🤔

I've been running a front ARB on my Cougar mash-up for two seasons - exactly the same installation. Requires a very different set-up to work, but I like it. I'd love to know how they are getting on with it.

Here's mine:
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15895643_1286860794737458_1357155458803431540_o.jp g?oh=5e60bc5f905d771e6d1266636f950eba&oe=5919FA61

[CARB]

I do not think there is a new Schumacher 4wd was referring to the new Serpent shaft drive.
He was also using the original SV narrow front wish bone that give less understeer and a fast response and with the wheel base short.

[Treedudeben]

So know we know, Schumacher has just released the KD (an SV2 update) and the KC (the KF2 replacement) is available for pre order.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[mark christopher]

So know we know, Schumacher has just released the KD (an SV2 update) and the KC (the KF2 replacement) is available for pre order.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

you may find its the D thats available to pre order and the C has not yet been officially released!

[Treedudeben]

MB Models are advertising the KC for pre order whether it's officially released or not :):)


https://www.rccarshop.co.uk/race-kits/schumacher-race-kits/k172-schumacher-cougar-kc-1-10th-competition-2wd-carpet-astro-car-pre-order-deposit-total-payable-tba-due-late-feb-p

[CARB]

There is a picture of the KC above, bet it is the same as the car used at the DHI meeting, the only thing I do not like is the lack of side rails to help stop dirt and water getting into the electrics

[mark christopher]

There is a picture of the KC above, bet it is the same as the car used at the DHI meeting, the only thing I do not like is the lack of side rails to help stop dirt and water getting into the electrics

brian s picture above is a kf with a c centre gear box?

[mark christopher]

MB Models are advertising the KC for pre order whether it's officially released or not :):)


https://www.rccarshop.co.uk/race-kits/schumacher-race-kits/k172-schumacher-cougar-kc-1-10th-competition-2wd-carpet-astro-car-pre-order-deposit-total-payable-tba-due-late-feb-p

now its officially available to pre order ;-)

pre ordered one of each