Schumacher to Re Release the Cat XL!

[Peakey]

A guys just posted on Facebook that he's seen Schumacher's latest offering in the guise of a Cat XL Masami re release! I for one can't wait!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/icon...5617371118360/

[xfactor]

Not on facebook,

Any pics JJ, and price ?

[Peakey]

No pics yet it's going to be announced at the Nuremberg toy fair tomorrow apparently

[xfactor]

Mmmm Big seller me thinks.:thumbsup:

[xfactor]

Better get plenty of,

Black, Red and yellow paint then everyone...........:thumbsup:

[Peakey]

From what I've heard it's going to be a 87 worlds masami tribute with updated transmission with slipper for lipo

[Retro RC]

Hell yes I'll take 2 please

[Peakey]

First pic!

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/D212A4F2-1785-4A12-8691-11F1F23FF490_zps5rq892xz.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/D212A4F2-1785-4A12-8691-11F1F23FF490_zps5rq892xz.jpg.html)

[Retro RC]

I like this better

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/New_Cars_and_Parts/CAT_XLS_Masami/K172.html

No modern running gear at all so plenty of spare parts for xls owners to come as well I'd say, but modern transmission upgrade will be available seperately which is even better news

[Retro RC]

Just preordered mine:thumbsup:

[Peakey]

I like this better

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/New_Cars_and_Parts/CAT_XLS_Masami/K172.html

No modern running gear at all so plenty of spare parts for xls owners to come as well I'd say

There will be updated transmission it'll be an option part as will chrome wheels :thumbsup:

[Retro RC]

http://www.redrc.net/2017/02/schumacher-cat-xls-110th-4wd-buggy-re-release/#more-126288

[Cliveyp]

I'll be getting a pre-order on the go soon I think.

Also might mean that I can get my original XLS/Procat hybrid back into shape at a reasonable cost too!

[daz75]

Prices of the originals to tumble then :D

[Peakey]

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/DA47E3E2-64B5-4BF7-B46D-075F193ABB2E_zpsklzmygso.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/DA47E3E2-64B5-4BF7-B46D-075F193ABB2E_zpsklzmygso.jpg.html)

[Novice]

This is a dream come true for me , I could never afford one when they first came out so this will be bought and raced and I cant wait .:thumbsup:

[Rs fruitbat]

This is a dream come true for me , I could never afford one when they first came out so this will be bought and raced and I cant wait .:thumbsup:

Nice one Andrew , I was the same too , couldn't afford one back then and strangely enough I can't afford one now :mad:

[Peakey]

So far it's £259.99 RRP for the kit and £99 RRP for the transmission upgrade

[Cliveyp]

Anyone know what the transmission upgrade consists of? I was thinking of one, but surely the original 'box could cope with a steady 10.5?

[Stu Dixon]

Ohhhhhhhhh go on then if I must :thumbsup:

March is a way off for my proposed delivery date :o

I want one now :wub

[daz75]

Sounds expensive

[Peakey]

There all discounting the price for pre orders anyway but I've got mine ordered with transmission upgrade and 2 sets of chrome wheels :thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Im tempted, but if Schumie are doing then maybe Yokomo might and that is what I would be after.

[Adam F]

Cool that they have done it, but so glad I sold most of my original ones whilst they fetched a good price!

[xfactor]

I Must email RPM not to RE-RE the RPM ULTRA MOLD.......:woot::woot::lol::lol:

[ralphee]

Tempting but not a huge fan, please see this as a GO, Yokomo!

Lee

[xfactor]

I wonder,

Will Schumacher release spares for it. Or will people buy kits and split them on Ebay like the norm......

Just a thought, if Schumacher are releasing new diffs and slipper, will parts be available ?

[CVRrc]

Very exciting, Am I right in thinking the XLS sliper clutch will be compatible with original cougar and Procat and the new front and rear diff wil pl also fit my Procat?

[Adam F]

I'm sure they will release spares, why wouldn't they?

[xfactor]

It was just a thought, I'm not sure if it would be a limited run for the buggy only.

[Novice]

So does it come with the upgraded transmission? or do you need to buy that to run brushless reliably , OR is the upgraded transmission available to convert original cars to use brushless ?:confused:

[Rs fruitbat]

From what I've read it doesn't come with the upgraded transmission ,that's an extra £100 on top of the kit price .

I'm guessing they're supplying the kit in that way to keep the purists / shelf queen people happy ,whilst giving the racers the option of the upgrade .

[neallewis]

From what I've read it doesn't come with the upgraded transmission ,that's an extra £100 on top of the kit price .

I'm guessing they're supplying the kit in that way to keep the purists / shelf queen people happy ,whilst giving the racers the option of the upgrade .

For sure, to run it you will need the upgraded tranny. Otherwise original MMS diffs and layshaft.
The original will be for shelf queens.

[fidspeed]

different view

of course you can run it as standard you will just need to be careful on motor choice and not go silly

agreed with neil, if you want to run modern low wind brushless motors the upgraded tranny will be required
dave

[Peakey]

You will be able to run it out the box with whatever motor you want because now you can get spares :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[daz75]

Im tempted, but if Schumie are doing then maybe Yokomo might and that is what I would be after.

Only a matter of time surely time to sell my 93WCS :D

[isobarik]

I would love to see som pics IF the upgraded tranny

MVH isobarik

[Peakey]

I would love to see som pics IF the upgraded tranny

MVH isobarik

No pics or details as of yet but MB are stating front and rear diff upgrade, slipper and belts. So I take from that it'll be a full 3M belts and full fat KF type slipper, mines ordered and I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas

[Cliveyp]

I've not ordered the tranny as yet as i'm still undecided exactly which way the car will go. That said, i've still got an MMS diff and layshaft in the scabby original car here so I might rob those temporarily if I find the standard tranny struggling. Would be interesting to see what they've done to upgrade it...

[Rich D]

There all discounting the price for pre orders anyway but I've got mine ordered with transmission upgrade and 2 sets of chrome wheels :thumbsup:


Can you give me more info about the chrome wheels ? Cant see any mention of those. Thanks

[Retro RC]

Can you give me more info about the chrome wheels ? Cant see any mention of those. Thanks

Peakey's got contacts we can only dream about;)

[Peakey]

Can you give me more info about the chrome wheels ? Cant see any mention of those. Thanks

If you talk to Dell here: http://model-car-racer.co.uk he'll sort you out tell him I sent you he said he was putting them on the site tonight

Peakey's got contacts we can only dream about;)

What can I say :p:D

[Peakey]

Link to a the first vid of the car I know it's Facebook but it's the best I can do ATM

https://www.facebook.com/rcracermagazine/videos/1217133111673751/

[Rich D]

If you talk to Dell here: http://model-car-racer.co.uk he'll sort you out tell him I sent you he said he was putting them on the site tonight



What can I say :p:D

Cheers Peakey

[Retro RC]

Link to a the first vid of the car I know it's Facebook but it's the best I can do ATM

https://www.facebook.com/rcracermagazine/videos/1217133111673751/

So is that the original next to it or the replica that dan did for Schumacher I wonder

[Peakey]

So is that the original next to it or the replica that dan did for Schumacher I wonder

No that's the original car that live at Schumacher HQ with the Re release, I think dan sold his a while ago.

[Retro RC]

Cool little video for those who may not have seen it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M57Jss11EPg

[Peakey]

Not the best pics but the first I've seen of the updated transmission

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/EA93A7A3-BB47-4F9C-BE1F-BC691CADAF77_zpsjf0j0suy.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/EA93A7A3-BB47-4F9C-BE1F-BC691CADAF77_zpsjf0j0suy.jpg.html)
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/04846B81-00B6-4060-84C8-366A4742B7A0_zpsrgiunmds.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/04846B81-00B6-4060-84C8-366A4742B7A0_zpsrgiunmds.jpg.html)

And some option parts

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/DCE33F6F-5506-4C2D-BB25-1D3A6C698784_zpsbetkfhh3.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/DCE33F6F-5506-4C2D-BB25-1D3A6C698784_zpsbetkfhh3.jpg.html)

[ralphee]

Well i caved, just pre ordered, my first Schumacher car too.....yikes.

Lee

[Retro RC]

Not the best pics but the first I've seen of the updated transmission

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/EA93A7A3-BB47-4F9C-BE1F-BC691CADAF77_zpsjf0j0suy.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/EA93A7A3-BB47-4F9C-BE1F-BC691CADAF77_zpsjf0j0suy.jpg.html)
http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/04846B81-00B6-4060-84C8-366A4742B7A0_zpsrgiunmds.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/04846B81-00B6-4060-84C8-366A4742B7A0_zpsrgiunmds.jpg.html)

And some option parts

http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p662/peakey29/DCE33F6F-5506-4C2D-BB25-1D3A6C698784_zpsbetkfhh3.jpg (http://s1345.photobucket.com/user/peakey29/media/DCE33F6F-5506-4C2D-BB25-1D3A6C698784_zpsbetkfhh3.jpg.html)

That looks like the inside of a instruction manual can't wait now!

[daz75]

are you guys pre ordering direct with schumacher?

[Retro RC]

are you guys pre ordering direct with schumacher?

I preordered the buggy through Schumacher means I didn't have to pay vat:thumbsup:

[colin b]

Do these speed secrets come in the Masami kit or are the options to buy ???

[Peakey]

Speed secrets are Schumachers hop up parts so are all extra, the kit is just how it would of originally been

[isobarik]

Lovely will get the tranny upgrade for sure , just a thought if one stumme in to an english hospital and order an tranny upgrade what do i then get ???😳
Anyway the plastic Will be 30 years better i hope
If the tranny upgrade from schumacher contains new diffs and a layshaft belts then it sounds cheap
Mvh isobarik

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Does anybody know if the due date for release is still March? Ive pre ordered 2 but looking on modelsports site it says due date May? I cant wait much longer!!
Also, where can I get the chrome wheels from?

[Retro RC]

I got an email from Schumacher early last week saying first batch due early April for shipping so if you missed out on the first batch it could be may

Some site are taking preorders for the chrome wheels look up the thread abit peakey gave some details on how to get them

[Peakey]

Apparently there been a copyright issue with one of the manufacturers but I think it's all sorted now but yes looks like May now, the chrome wheels should be available from anyone who sells Schumacher stuff

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Thanks for the info. Gutted its going to be May now though. Will have to get the old predator out in the meantime just hope the gearbox hold out until May

[daz75]

Apparently there been a copyright issue with one of the manufacturers but I think it's all sorted now but yes looks like May now, the chrome wheels should be available from anyone who sells Schumacher stuff

Do you know what the copyright issue was about seems strange when it's their car?

[J1mbo]

But the decals on the shell are not

[daz75]

But the decals on the shell are not

Be a bit sad if that's the case free advertising :)

[J1mbo]

Would be like all the re re Tamiya's. free advertising or royalties🙄

[Danf1275]

Out of interest, anyone planning on going non boxart. Having drooled over Jimbo's and Dan Rowlands replicas, I will be going full Masami.

[fidspeed]

White knight for us .
!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[mintzant]

Now it's time RC companies like kyosho and Yokomo produce again vintage kits like zx-r and yz10.
And how knows, maybe it's time for a new cat except XLS...
Please Schumacher give us a new CAT 2000...

[DanB4]

Out of interest, anyone planning on going non boxart. Having drooled over Jimbo's and Dan Rowlands replicas, I will be going full Masami.

No boxart for me this time. Mine will be a Trinity advert car, already have the body :)

Thanks for the kind words. J1mbo was the original replica which I fell in love with and then made mine :)

[J1mbo]

No boxart for me this time. Mine will be a Trinity advert car, already have the body :)

Thanks for the kind words. J1mbo was the original replica which I fell in love with and then made mine :)

Yep 9 years old now:wub:wub

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/jdsmiffy/IMG_1998_zpskbrtogwk.jpg

[isobarik]

No boxart for me this time. Mine will be a Trinity advert car, already have the body :)

Thanks for the kind words. J1mbo was the original replica which I fell in love with and then made mine :)

is the body painted would love too see it :)

Im waiting for the spareparts to pop up on schumacher homepage....

mvh isobarik

[DanB4]

is the body painted would love too see it :)

Im waiting for the spareparts to pop up on schumacher homepage....

mvh isobarik

Sure is. I'll get a pic ASAP

[DanB4]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_060918_zpsmz5piqpu.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_061521_zpskyztaoap.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/Ad-000_zpsxnqiewe2.jpg

[isobarik]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_060918_zpsmz5piqpu.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_061521_zpskyztaoap.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/Ad-000_zpsxnqiewe2.jpg

Looking good very close to the original i wouldnreally want that Shell
wasnt there also an dark version ??? Or was thatvfor the sanyo commersial

Med vänlig hälsning, isobarik

[isobarik]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_060918_zpsmz5piqpu.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/IMG_20170316_061521_zpskyztaoap.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/SDRCC/Ad-000_zpsxnqiewe2.jpg

Looking good very close to the original i wouldnreally want that Shell
wasnt there also an dark version ??? Or was thatvfor the sanyo commersial
B4?style slipper and spc chassi nice
Med vänlig hälsning, isobarik

[rc mad ham]

has anyone had any updates on when we might be getting our pre ordered cars yet? it just says out of stock on the website now:(

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

looks like its going to be May

[rc mad ham]

i had an email about my order today, looks like we now have to wait till 7th of june...

[Losi_110]

Yep, tbh I'm beginning to get rather fed up with the dates being pushed back and back. If the product wasn't ready for release, then don't put it up for sale. I might paint mine up in the windows box art as seems appropriate at the moment lol.

[daz75]

Have you had to pay up front to pre order it?

[Stu Dixon]

Have you had to pay up front to pre order it?


£50 pre order

[Novice]

Already cancelled one of mine , did want 2 one for the shelf and one as a runner but the delay has really taken the shine off , will just be happy to get one as a runner now. I am sure I am not the only one.

[Losi_110]

Nope thinking of cancelling my one to be fair. Plenty of other things that is like that I can have now rather than paying for something that at this rate will be my next birthday present. 😔

[Stu Dixon]

I know what you mean about taking the shine off the whole thing as it's getting a bit of a joke now. I have been told 3rd week this month (May) for delivery now so fingered crossed we have them soon :bored:

[Dandare]

I've been informed by my regular model shop that regardless of when you've pre-ordered your XLS that they'll only be sent out when there are enough kits available to satisfy all orders placed.

[Backforfun]

I've been told not enough orders to produce it

[Peakey]

I know what you mean about taking the shine off the whole thing as it's getting a bit of a joke now. I have been told 3rd week this month (May) for delivery now so fingered crossed we have them soon :bored:

I've heard 17th of June now I know there was issues with HPI but not sure what the hold up now is

I've been told not enough orders to produce it

I think they were surprised with the amount they got rather than the lack of

[rc mad ham]

agreed, all this messing around has really spoiled it. I nearly cancelled mine, if they put it back again i probably will.

[eddscott]

I'd be stunned if the pull production.

Probably as mentioned above, demand outstripped initial supply. Much like Tamiya with the Bigwig. I've been waiting since March on my order.

I'll be happy once it's released. Not bunched if it takes a while. Just as long as it turns up!

[xfactor]

I'd be stunned if the pull production.

Probably as mentioned above, demand outstripped initial supply. Much like Tamiya with the Bigwig. I've been waiting since March on my order.

I'll be happy once it's released. Not bunched if it takes a while. Just as long as it turns up!


Same as eddscott,

I'm waiting on the Top Force. The date has been changed 3 times from May to now June.

Think about it Lads/Ladies, this buggy XLS has been asked for, for a number of years. Its almost there. I know the frustration, but when the courier walks up your drive with that BIG !! brown box. IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT !! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Cliveyp]

All i've had is hearsay, but as of last week my source was telling me 16/17th May......as i've not heard anything since and we're only 5 days away from that point, i'm thinking this isn't going to happen.

I'm disappointed I must admit. When I placed the pre-order I had all the funds allocated. Since then other expenses have taken care of most of that so i'm not quite as ready to dispose of that sort of money quite so easily - i'm contemplating a cancellation too.....

EDIT - just checked the Schumacher website and thats now stating June. I think I need to make a few decisions now.....anyone want to buy a kit and transmission pre-order?

[Retro RC]

Kit mid June, transmission not til later maybe early july at this stage.

they've had an overwhelming response and can't produce them fast enough is what I got from Schumacher when emailing them in regards to the holdup

[daz75]

So does that mean your screwed if you want to go brushless?

[Retro RC]

Yup if you want to build it with the upgraded transmission

[Rs fruitbat]

they've had an overwhelming response and can't produce them fast enough is what I got from Schumacher when emailing them in regards to the holdup

If that's the case you would've thought from a business perspective ,that the people who pre ordered their kits early would've received their kits by now ,as Schumacher must have X amount of kits finished ?

By sending out the finished kits early you keep your customer base happy and keep the interest in the model going ,because as it is now people are loosing interest and cancelling orders .

All this is doing is harming future Schumacher re release as people will be wary of pre odering, which then has a knock on effect ,because if shumacher doesn't get enough pre orders they'll think there's not enough interest and will shelf the idea of future models being re realesed , I'm hoping the top cat gets released as I'd love to own one ,as it the only vintage shumacher I've not owned :cry:

[rc mad ham]

my guess is they don't want to supply the kits they do have as people will then sell them on at an inflated price

[Danf1275]

I would imagine that if issue is to do with decals, Schumacher would also have had to re-design and source revised packaging, manuals and promotional literature - not the work of a moment.

I'm a little dissapointed by delays, but I'm sure it will be well worth the wait.

Top Force has also been delayed, so even the big boys get these things wrong occasionally.

[J1mbo]

I would imagine that if issue is to do with decals, Schumacher would also have had to re-design and source revised packaging, manuals and promotional literature - not the work of a moment.

I'm a little dissapointed by delays, but I'm sure it will be well worth the wait.

Top Force has also been delayed, so even the big boys get these things wrong occasionally.

And when did we first find out about the Kyosho Turbo Scorpion? Before Christmas? Did this only just get released this month in the U.K.?

[Adam F]

Only speculation on what may be causing the delay, but you can bet 100% Schumacher are not happy either.

All it takes is one component coming in out of tolerance and you have a problem that takes time to fix.. nobodies fault, just part of being a manufacturer!

[Peakey]

You've got to remember that Schumacher is a small company nowhere near the size of Tamiya and look at there delays.
They also announced the release of was it 3 other models at the same time and this is really just a side line release and I think they underestimated the amount of orders they got. That coupled with the HPI being wankers and pulling there decals I'm assuming will of caused a massive delay alone. Revised and re printed literature, manuals and packing all takes time

As the saying goes good things come to those who wait :thumbsup:

[Rs fruitbat]

You've got to remember that Schumacher is a small company

With a big racing pedigree :thumbsup: if Cecil's looking for another machinist to ease his load point him in my direction :)

[Danf1275]

As the saying goes good things come to those who wait :thumbsup:

Indeed - fans have been waiting 30 years, a few more weeks is ok IMO - wasn't Worlds in August 87?

And as James points out, Turbo Scorpion was hugely late, and most of that was already tooled.

[Retro RC]

If that's the case you would've thought from a business perspective ,that the people who pre ordered their kits early would've received their kits by now ,as Schumacher must have X amount of kits finished ?
Only problem with that theory is that everyone preordered early lol

I don't care how long it takes as long as it gets here, afteral how long has it taken some of us to source parts for resto or new parts builds, my resently finished new parts re built topcat took over 2 years to find all the parts and an absolute fortune in costs , so a couple of extra months for a complete kit ready to build is no issue in my opinion:thumbsup:

Hopefully they don't rerelease the topcat as it will mean I wasted hours and hours sourcing parts for nothing :cry::p

[Rs fruitbat]

Hopefully they don't rerelease the topcat as it will mean I wasted hours and hours sourcing parts for nothing :cry::p

A Top Cat is the only vintage Schumacher I've not owned and is on my most wanted list of rc cars at the moment :thumbsup:

[nivek]

I hope they do still after one part ,

[Peakey]

A Top Cat is the only vintage Schumacher I've not owned and is on my most wanted list of rc cars at the moment :thumbsup:

I've got a nice lightly used Topcat front end of your after one

[mark christopher]

Nice video from two guys who changed the face of off road

https://youtu.be/QRalbPEEFVQ

With an on schedule shipping date in july

Recently had the privlage of a guided tour round the factory, demand did far out weigh the expected numbers, and i watched a guy useing the original wheel moulds, on the original moulding machine moulding wheels one at a time, so the delay is going to be worth it, trust me, original mouldings, on the original moulding machine hand done, no modern fully auto machine for some parts and the mould dies do not fit in the new machines.

Your getting it done how it was originally done in cecils garage

Will also be a revised decal sheet.

[Peakey]

Ha from the mounds that they said for years had been destroyed. They had to revise the decal sheet because that co*k at HPI pulled there agreement as soon as he took over :thumbdown:

[mark christopher]

Ha from the mounds that they said for years had been destroyed. They had to revise the decal sheet because that co*k at HPI pulled there agreement as soon as he took over :thumbdown:

Some probably were destroyed.

You would think they would be happy to have another manufacture carry thier logo

[daz75]

Yeah strange why would hpi not want their logo on loads of cars

[Stu Dixon]

Tick tock, tick tock.............

Not long now hey !!

[xfactor]

Any up-dates on this :)

[PoGdiN]

14th July according to Modelsport.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

any further updates on this or should I assume its going make a nice xmas prezzie?

[rc mad ham]

at the moment still looks like it will be the 14th

[xfactor]

Has this been put back again.:confused: No real info or talk about it. Anyone know..

[gainsy]

Has this been put back again.:confused: No real info or talk about it. Anyone know..

Car is next week, upgrade transmission not till & wait for it.....September!!!

[xfactor]

Geeezzzzz,

Cheers Gainsy..........:thumbsup:

[isobarik]

Finally anyway i would love to have the transmission upgrade

Mvh isobarik

[gainsy]

Finally anyway i would love to have the transmission upgrade

Mvh isobarik

Alloy front gearbox is rather nice as well :woot::woot::woot:

[xfactor]

Alloy front gearbox is rather nice as well :woot::woot::woot:

Oh dear......:rolleyes:

I need all that...:lol:

[gainsy]

Oh dear......:rolleyes:

I need all that...:lol:

Haha yeah me too :drool::drool::drool::wub:wub:wub
Oh & these as well

[isobarik]

Alloy front gearbox is rather nice as well :woot::woot::woot:

And that layshaft looks awsome i got to have one of those IF the PRO transmission upgrade includes all that goodies alloydiff etc etc layshaft for 100
It will be cheap

Mvh isobarik

[fidspeed]

I have my xls 😀😀😀😀

[Novice]

Got mine ...... it's worth the wait in the end.:thumbsup:

[timmy]

Picked up mine tonight too:thumbsup::thumbsup:

100575

[nerius]

I'm looking forward to getting mine here in the U.S.A., pre-ordered about a month ago.

[Dazzler]

Somebody must have one built by now! Surely a photo or two will appear soon :thumbsup:

[nerius]

Got mine in the U.S.A.

[fidspeed]

Ours is half built :lol:
I notice traffic on here is much quieter of late may be it all takes place on FB (which I dont do
Regards dave

[Retro RC]

Mine is sitting in customs at the moment can't wait to get my hands on it

[rc mad ham]

i've started to build mine and have noticed the spur gear can be rocked slightly on its ball bearings, i've double checked everything but can't see anything wrong. does anyone know if this is normal?

i feel a bit daft asking but i want to get it right:confused:

[Welshy40]

Another happy person with his rerelease

[xfactor]

Wonder if he got discount on the kit......:lol::lol:

[suparajicon]

Wonder if he got discount on the kit......:lol::lol:

I bet he got it as a present.

Now Yokomo guys should feel some kind of envy a say something like:

'ok, now we`re gonna re-re our masterpiece, the yz10`

[Welshy40]

I bet he got it as a present.

Now Yokomo guys should feel some kind of envy a say something like:

'ok, now we`re gonna re-re our masterpiece, the yz10`

Doubt it somehow, was expensive then so imagine cost now.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

still waiting for mine. UPS made a *&^% up with delivery!!:mad:

[Peakey]

Talking to Robin and Cecil yesterday they were really happy and surprised at the support that it's had. I asked if it was going to be a limited run or not and Robin said they didn't have any intention with limiting the quantity so there should be a plentiful spares supply for years to come!

[Retro RC]

That's good news Justin :thumbsup: if I ever get mine out of ups' hands I'll be happy, bloody rip off merchants that they are:mad:

[bigalbi]

Come on guys. It's been a week already. Someone must have at least started a build that they can post some pictures.

I can't afford one of these babies so I need to live my life vicariously through those that can. :)

[rc mad ham]

Here's mine, will do a shell of my own design on day.
Took longer than it should have as had to contact Schumacher 4 times due to parts issues. These were resolved quickly but still annoying

[Dazzler]

Here's mine, will do a shell of my own design on day.
Took longer than it should have as had to contact Schumacher 4 times due to parts issues. These were resolved quickly but still annoying

Looking good! Any shell off shots?

[daz75]

Here's mine, will do a shell of my own design on day.
Took longer than it should have as had to contact Schumacher 4 times due to parts issues. These were resolved quickly but still annoying

What were the part problems?

[J1mbo]

My Re re XLS, Daniel Rowlands tribute car as used at the revival at the weekend, so not only built, but used too

[J1mbo]

I bet he got it as a present.

Now Yokomo guys should feel some kind of envy a say something like:

'ok, now we`re gonna re-re our masterpiece, the yz10`

Interestingly Robin said that Yokomo are Schumacher's distributor in Japan.

[isobarik]

My Re re XLS, Daniel Rowlands tribute car as used at the revival at the weekend, so not only built, but used too

I just love that trinity paint so awsome :thumbsup::woot:

Mvh isobarik

[Peakey]

Interestingly Robin said that Yokomo are Schumacher's distributor in Japan.

They might and they did tease the 834 some years ago but nothing, but you never know if they see the cat doing well

[timmy]

What were the part problems?

On mine the front anti roll bar was bent in a place it should have been straight, the finish of the eccentrics was really poor, I replaced these with the alloy ones which were really high quality.....apart from that no issues:thumbsup:

[tahustvedt]

I'd love to have one of these as a runner. My original Procat is too dear for me to drive it as much as I want.

Is the upgraded drive train set really necessary? What's the difference?

EDIT:
I read the manual. The upgrade seems to have a coarser belt and pulley pitch. Probably 3mm pitch.

[timmy]

Finished ......

[xfactor]

Finished ......


No other word to say but, STUNNING. LOVE IT. :thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

My Re re XLS, Daniel Rowlands tribute car as used at the revival at the weekend, so not only built, but used too

Words cant express how I feel reading this. Really nice!

[timmy]

No other word to say but, STUNNING. LOVE IT. :thumbsup:

Cheers buddy, can't take the credit for the painting...only the mad ramblings that were awesomely translated into the design I was looking for!!

[Rs fruitbat]

Finished ......

Can you bring it to the club meet for us all too drool over :thumbsup:

[isobarik]

Finished ......

loving the paint i used to have a lot of peel (spelling) paintjobs and "splatts" back in the days i guess it was hip or something

:lol:

mvh isobarik

[isobarik]

and if i would like to have anything from yokomo reissued any 91-93 model would be fine and i guess they would fix the arms since they where very soft

mvh isobarik

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Hi, eventually got my hands on my xls. Never built one before. All was going well upto step 19. Please can anyone help or offer some advice. Ive spent over an hour on this stage and no matter what I do cant get the front end assembled. The holes line up but as soon as I try assemble the side plastic parts (not the gear casing but the outer parts) everything gets thrown out of line and nothing assembles as it should. No idea what is going on!!!!

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

i've started to build mine and have noticed the spur gear can be rocked slightly on its ball bearings, i've double checked everything but can't see anything wrong. does anyone know if this is normal?

i feel a bit daft asking but i want to get it right:confused:

mine does exactly the same thing. not finished building mine yet so not sure if this is normal. Having a nightmare with the front end. doesnt seen to want to go together

[rc mad ham]

mine does exactly the same thing. not finished building mine yet so not sure if this is normal. Having a nightmare with the front end. doesnt seen to want to go together

In the end I phoned Schumacher, and spoke to the technical department. They said the spur gear movement is normal.

As for the front end it's just a bit fiddly as you have to line up so many components at the same time.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

In the end I phoned Schumacher, and spoke to the technical department. They said the spur gear movement is normal.

As for the front end it's just a bit fiddly as you have to line up so many components at the same time.

Mine is a toatal pain, as soon as I line up ones side the other is way out. It might end up on feebay as an abandoned project at this rate!!

[isobarik]

LOTs of parts in the front end so is a bit fiddly.

[tahustvedt]

Hi, eventually got my hands on my xls. Never built one before. All was going well upto step 19. Please can anyone help or offer some advice. Ive spent over an hour on this stage and no matter what I do cant get the front end assembled. The holes line up but as soon as I try assemble the side plastic parts (not the gear casing but the outer parts) everything gets thrown out of line and nothing assembles as it should. No idea what is going on!!!!

It's almost the same as on my Procat. The front gearbox has steps on each side. The steps need to go under the step on each side piece. The gearbox can slide forward an backwards using these steps as guides, and the steps clamp down on the gearbox later on to hold it in position after pulling the belt tight.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

LOTs of parts in the front end so is a bit fiddly.
All of the holes line up etc but when one side is on the plastic side parts arent even vertical and throws the front casing out then the other side is about 4mm out. when looking at it front on the plastic side parts are at a really strange angle. Jesus. Ive built dozens and dozens of cars over the years but im done with this one!!

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Im done with it. first person to make a decent offer gets it. Im sticking to predators!!!!

[tahustvedt]

I ordered one now. Can't wait to struggle with step 19. :D

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

probably just how i tried to build it. decided sell it now though lol

[bluewormx]

Never give up! you just spent 4 hours. Leave it a few days, and try again. You will get it once you are rested and relaxed.

Bare in mind th actual clamping is done by the top plate and the chassis. The transmission needs to be able to sit in the cutouts on top and bottom.

Any imperfection in the tranny case or the chassis plates will not allow this. Try bolting it up without the 4 guides to make sure it sits in the correct place, and to better help you understand where everything goes.

Then try one side. Remove the two right hand bolts.

place the lower guide first and insert the rearmost bolt half way in, then insert the top guide, it will be a tight fit perhaps loosening the other two bolts half a tuen will give you enough wiggle room.
Once you have inserted the top guide push the rest of the bolt in and put the washer and nut on, snug down and put in the forward most bolt.

Tighten both down and loosen of half a turn.

Now do the same with the left had side. :D

It may seem hard but take comfort in that the original car had 8 screws plus thick washers under the bumper wich made it way fiddlier ;)

[isobarik]

Never give up! you just spent 4 hours. Leave it a few days, and try again. You will get it once you are rested and relaxed.

Bare in mind th actual clamping is done by the top plate and the chassis. The transmission needs to be able to sit in the cutouts on top and bottom.

Any imperfection in the tranny case or the chassis plates will not allow this. Try bolting it up without the 4 guides to make sure it sits in the correct place, and to better help you understand where everything goes.

Then try one side. Remove the two right hand bolts.

place the lower guide first and insert the rearmost bolt half way in, then insert the top guide, it will be a tight fit perhaps loosening the other two bolts half a tuen will give you enough wiggle room.
Once you have inserted the top guide push the rest of the bolt in and put the washer and nut on, snug down and put in the forward most bolt.

Tighten both down and loosen of half a turn.

Now do the same with the left had side. :D

It may seem hard but take comfort in that the original car had 8 screws plus thick washers under the bumper wich made it way fiddlier ;)

i bought an cheap of an auction site in sweden i drilled it out and took four bolts in stead down side is it looks so nice when you have flush screws on top and not an nut.

mvh isobarik

[THancock]

I'm doing something wrong...

I'm running the car with a 19x1 brushed motor (Atlas) on grass with the original tyres, yet I am suffering with two persistent problems:

1. The front belt slips (load clicking noise) unless I am very gentle with the application of throttle. I cannot move the front gearbox any further forward physically (and the belt has little slack), nor tension the rear belts any more without binding the transmission.

2. The spur gear diff melts around the balls.

I've built tons of ball diffs in the past and used the same run in procedure with the Cat. The diff action was lovely and smooth and there was no slip (rotating by hand). But as soon as it is under load from the motor, after a couple of minutes, I can feel the slip in the transmission and sure enough, the spur diff is hot as hell and if I'm too late in stopping, a sticky plastic mess.

Any advice on what others are doing would be appreciated.

- Tim.

[Peakey]

I'm doing something wrong...

I'm running the car with a 19x1 brushed motor (Atlas) on grass with the original tyres, yet I am suffering with two persistent problems:

1. The front belt slips (load clicking noise) unless I am very gentle with the application of throttle. I cannot move the front gearbox any further forward physically (and the belt has little slack), nor tension the rear belts any more without binding the transmission.

2. The spur gear diff melts around the balls.

I've built tons of ball diffs in the past and used the same run in procedure with the Cat. The diff action was lovely and smooth and there was no slip (rotating by hand). But as soon as it is under load from the motor, after a couple of minutes, I can feel the slip in the transmission and sure enough, the spur diff is hot as hell and if I'm too late in stopping, a sticky plastic mess.

Any advice on what others are doing would be appreciated.

- Tim.
The thing with the cat is the diff is in the layshaft not the rear drum like your use to. If you hold the spur gear and the rear wheel the same side then turn the opposite wheel you'll thigten the diff as it sounds like it's running a little loose.

[THancock]

Thanks Peakey. I'm still a little confused, sorry :)

I understand the integrator part and that bit appears to be okay, but with regards to the layshaft diff, which bit is acting as the diff? The inner layshaft balls and rings or the spur gear balls and rings or both?

I was using the nut on the layshaft by the spur to tighten the diff action - is that wrong and I should just use the approach you described?

[tahustvedt]

Very odd to have the diff in the layshaft. The torque there is lower than at the rear axle, but the radius is equally smaller, with fewer balls to absorb the torque. I look forward to building it though. I have a 13,5T brushless that I want to use, but maybe I'll steal the 17,5T from my Ultima Pro instead. I think the recommendation of no hotter than 17,5T seems a bit conservative. My Procat has a 13,5T motor which it handles without slipping.

EDIT:
Actually, studying the build manual, the rear diff load seems to be shared by the rear axle, the spur gear AND the layshaft. There are ball bearing diffs all over the place.

[daz75]

Sounds like a degree in car building is needed for this that's me out ;)

[isobarik]

Front diff
Rear diff / integrator
Layshaft diff

Tightening the rear diff makes IT drive the front
More atleast so you have 50/50 drive

Med vänlig hälsning, isobarik

[tahustvedt]

Sounds like a degree in car building is needed for this that's me out ;)

It's a lot simpler with the upgraded drive train kit. Download and read the manual for more info: http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Showroom/CAT_XLS_Masami.html

[tahustvedt]

This 1989 video is a treat for us CAT fans. Schumacher's set up tips for the Cat XLS.

https://youtu.be/qz_3mnRPF24

[Danf1275]

Tightening the rear diff makes IT drive the front
More atleast so you have 50/50 drive


Integrator tension controls front drive - rear diff only controls back axle. Not hugely experienced with original drivetrains, but I try to run integrator on my originals as loose as possible, without excess slip, to reduce drag on rear diff action.

[tahustvedt]

I can imagine the rear axle diff feel is tighter with a layshaft diff than with a normal rear ball diff, because of the gear ratio between the rear axles and the layshaft.

[tahustvedt]

Mine arrived today. Took 5,5 hours to build it. There were two issues. One was that the bag for step 16 included a wheel hub instead of the diff hub. The wheel hub is longer. One picture shows the longer one next to a normal diff hub. Luckily I had a spare one from the old days. Anyone else encounter this? Also, the front diff bolt was shattered in the end. I wonder what happened there. Probably hardened while rolling the threads. I contacted Schumacher about these things in case it's not an isolated incidence.

I did not install the rear gearbox housing early on as the instructions call for. The shorty battery mounts interfer with some screws on the gearbox housing, so I left it hanging loose until the front side plate scrws were in place.

Step 19 was not a problem. I just inserted one screw at a time, fitting it through the parts.

Step 22 is installing the rear A-arm pivot blocks. The instructions say you should insert screws into holes that are already occupied by shorter screws. This can be confusing to builders who aren't sure how it's supposed to go together. The shorter screws have to be removed first if they were installed according to the instructions.

Will probably paint it tonight or tomorrow. I'm not sure if I should go for box art or a flaming variation of it. :)

[tahustvedt]

I didn't have any red paint, so I made a fiery inferno look with some black, orange and yellow. I wish they included the same decals that the original had, but I guess HPI must have objected. Maybe we should bug HPI into reproducing the Blue label motor... with decals. :)

Now comes the most difficult part of any build; having the patience to leave the freshly painted body alone to dry so that the soft paint doesn't scrape off when trying to put it on the chassis.

[tahustvedt]

I'm happy with how it turned out. Now I just need to wait for the motor and ESC.

[tahustvedt]

EK7c1hQcTRw

17.5T SKYRC Cheetah sensored motor and ESC with 26T pinion
2S 4200 mAh Gen ACE shorty lipo

The ESC barely fit between the steering servo and the battery post. I think they should have moved the battery posts backwards about 2 mm. I have a smaller ESC on order. This is just temporary. I cannibalized the ESC from my BSR BZ-222.

The car handles this kind of track surface superbly, which is no surprise as it's close to how many tracks were in the 80's. The tires are perfect for grass, moss and exposed soil.

Something was chirping. Probably the rear diff (layshaft) so I took it easy on the launch. The rear diff is very stiff due to being situated in the layshaft, but still chirps, unless it's the front diff that chirps. Will find out soon.

[Rs fruitbat]

Cool vid , I think every Rc enthusiast should have a track in they're back garden :thumbsup: 9/10 women would disagree :lol:

[Tarmac]

That's good news Justin :thumbsup: if I ever get mine out of ups' hands I'll be happy, bloody rip off merchants that they are:mad:

Glad I wasn't the only one who got stung by MPI! Built yours yet? Any parts missing? Mine is 75% done, up to the steering, and was missing a small metal pin from the spur gear shaft.

[tahustvedt]

Cool vid , I think every Rc enthusiast should have a track in they're back garden :thumbsup: 9/10 women would disagree :lol:

I finally found a good use of my yard. :thumbsup:

What's women? Are they brushless?

[stuey]

I ran mine at the Revival with a 13.5t motor. I found that you had to run the layshaft diff pretty tight to stop it slipping, leading to a stiff rear diff action. It is a pretty sensitive adjustment too. I did not have any other issues with slipping diffs or belts, I did go one hole tighter on the rear belts as I felt the kit setting was too loose. I am looking forward to the transmission upgrade.......

[Danf1275]

The ESC barely fit between the steering servo and the battery post. I think they should have moved the battery posts backwards about 2 mm. I have a smaller ESC on order. This is just temporary. I cannibalized the ESC from my BSR BZ-222.

Not a huge fan of kit Lipo holders, they waste too much space for my liking and make transmission maintenance tricky - I'm using some of my own design, freeing up around 10mm of room for electrics.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/7X2A992ED/schumacher-cat-shorty-cradle-rh?optionId=60691971

[tahustvedt]

I ran mine at the Revival with a 13.5t motor. I found that you had to run the layshaft diff pretty tight to stop it slipping, leading to a stiff rear diff action. It is a pretty sensitive adjustment too. I did not have any other issues with slipping diffs or belts, I did go one hole tighter on the rear belts as I felt the kit setting was too loose. I am looking forward to the transmission upgrade.......

Same here. When the spring washer collapses the adjustment becomes extremely sensitive as there tension rises. A stronger washer would help with the sensitive adjustment, but the diff stiffness wouldn't be solved. Seems to drive fine with the stiff rear diff in my case though. I have turned down the punch on my ESC. Makes me wonder if Masami and other just used the diff as a slipper clutch back in the day. Nothing lasts forever anyway. I'm pretty sure my Procat diff slipped a lot back then. This was before slipper clutches, and the peak torque from impacts is very high.

[tahustvedt]

Schumacher is sending me replacements for the damaged bolt and missing diff hub. :thumbsup:

[tahustvedt]

Hot tip: Buyg extra wings, or use a more durable wing for driving. My wing is completely destroyed after two packs.

[daz75]

Or drive better :D

[tahustvedt]

Or that. I've traction rolled about five times, and the wing is a mess. :) I'd buy a 1mm lexan version.

[isobarik]

There are repo nylon/plastic wings they are very durable

Mvh isobarik

[Peakey]

Speed secreats option parts are becoming available so looks like the pro diff transmission kit won't be long

http://www.racing-cars.com/sp/category/New_Cars_and_Parts/subcategory/CAT_XLS_Masami/templateid/12/searchbox7/Speed_Secret_-_Option_Parts.html

[tahustvedt]

I received my replacement kit parts from Schumacher today. That was fast.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

I'm doing something wrong...

I'm running the car with a 19x1 brushed motor (Atlas) on grass with the original tyres, yet I am suffering with two persistent problems:

1. The front belt slips (load clicking noise) unless I am very gentle with the application of throttle. I cannot move the front gearbox any further forward physically (and the belt has little slack), nor tension the rear belts any more without binding the transmission.

2. The spur gear diff melts around the balls.

I've built tons of ball diffs in the past and used the same run in procedure with the Cat. The diff action was lovely and smooth and there was no slip (rotating by hand). But as soon as it is under load from the motor, after a couple of minutes, I can feel the slip in the transmission and sure enough, the spur diff is hot as hell and if I'm too late in stopping, a sticky plastic mess.

Any advice on what others are doing would be appreciated.

- Tim.

My spur gear has melted around the balls too. I was running a 10t motor but think the slipper was too tight

[tahustvedt]

I modeled a printable wing for it:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2549779
https://cults3d.com/en/various/wing-for-schumacher-cat-xls

[Danf1275]

My spur gear has melted around the balls too. I was running a 10t motor but think the slipper was too tight

Slipper?

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Slipper?

or whatever it is

[Peakey]

That's the diff

[tahustvedt]

The spur diff melts if it's too loose and slipping a lot. The temperature where I live is about 14°C when I drive, so it's not exactly hot, but there's no sign of damage on my spur gear. It slips occasionally. I can hear it if I punch it on launch. I have tightened it slightly beyond a flattened spring washer. I should really add some washers to increase the spring tension without flattening.

I run a 17,5T brushless with a 28 teeth pinion which is the biggest that would fit and all is running well. :D

Every time I run mine I have to remove the right rear wheel to empty out all the debris that worked its way through the gap between the wheel and hub. It's pretty odd how much crap gets in there, especially since my track is counter clockwise.

[Stu Dixon]

oh my that car is a bitch to build ! worth it tho :thumbsup:

[isobarik]

oh my that car is a bitch to build ! worth it tho :thumbsup:

Looks awsome .

Does anyone know howes the plastic is compared to the original

Med vänlig hälsning, iso

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

is anyone using an alternative to the wire wing mount? Not a massive fan of the wire mount

[stuey]

I have the carbon rear shock mount with the moulded wing mount set. I enlarged the original holes in the wing from when it had the wire mount, and it could do with moving back a bit imo.

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

I have the carbon rear shock mount with the moulded wing mount set. I enlarged the original holes in the wing from when it had the wire mount, and it could do with moving back a bit imo.

where did you get the moulded wing mount set from? going have to get one

[Retro RC]

Here you go

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/New_Cars_and_Parts/CAT_K2/U3850.html

[Stu Dixon]

So built the XLS and all the electrics are in and I’m just waiting on the body back from being painted. I have noticed the that the steering seems a bit flimsy with the two screws from the top deck wiggling about so my question is are there any upgrades for this or mods people did back in the day ?
Cheers
Stu.

[PoGdiN]

I found that straight out of the box I couldn't tighten up the screws fully so the screws were "wiggling", if I did then it just locked the steering up. I had to shave a bit off the plastic parts so I could tighten the screws up fully and its been fine since.

[stuey]

I found that straight out of the box I couldn't tighten up the screws fully so the screws were "wiggling", if I did then it just locked the steering up. I had to shave a bit off the plastic parts so I could tighten the screws up fully and its been fine since.

Same here.

[tahustvedt]

I also shaved the plastic to let me tighten the screws.

[Stu Dixon]

I will give that a go later, thanks for the advise

[Danf1275]

I also shaved the plastic to let me tighten the screws.

Same here - much easier to sort fit before assembling top deck to chassis too

[Stu Dixon]

so my XLS is not far off being ready for a run out and cant wait !!

[Rs fruitbat]

That looks lovely Stu , nice colour scheme :thumbsup:

[Stu Dixon]

That looks lovely Stu , nice colour scheme :thumbsup:

Thanks mate, paint done by Mike Parker @ number 5 designs, well pleased with how it’s looking :wub

[PaulRotheram]

Circlip pliers - Does anyone have a recommended size for the circlips in this kit?

[fidspeed]

smallest you can find

think Schumacher sell "core" branded ones worth checking out

[Novice]

Circlip pliers - Does anyone have a recommended size for the circlips in this kit?

I bought some cheap mini ones off ebay they are in a set of 4 with red and blue handles they only cost about £7 delivered .Sorry can't find a link.

[Novice]

My two runners . Orange one is standard and the white one is full option.
103847

103848

103849

103850

103851

[PaulRotheram]

superb cheers -

What motor can you get away with the upgrades transmission?

[Novice]

superb cheers -

What motor can you get away with the upgrades transmission?
I have run an 8.5 sp motor with no issues , but I have gone down to a 13.5 now because of the lack of weight and I want it to feel more like an older light buggy rather than a fat heavy power full new one if you see what I mean.

[Danf1275]

superb cheers -

What motor can you get away with the upgrades transmission?

My Procat runs a 8.5t Speed Passion with XLS upgrade kit, seems OK.

[fidspeed]

Ran 10.5 at worksop last weekend without upgrade tranny no issues front belt does slacken off a bit
maybe need to tighten screws a bit more

dave

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Im running a 10t brushless with standard transmission. No problems at all. Amazingly strong buggy. Only upgrades on mine are tm4 shocks, schumacher wing mount and moulded wing

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

can anybody recommend tyres for wet short astro?

[fidspeed]

Agreed I have changed rear shock mount to an sx3 one and fitted latest version wing mounts
have upgrade tranny kit yet to fit

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

The only weak points ive noticed are the wire wing mount and kit wing. My xls has had quite a bit of use now. Its still looking amazing though

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

does most rc talk take place on facebook nowadays? This site is dead

[stuey]

can anybody recommend tyres for wet short astro?
Silver Schumacher darts on the rear should work, with either dart fronts or cut staggers. Ballistic buggy green mini spikes are also an option.

[fidspeed]

does most rc talk take place on facebook nowadays? This site is dead


its not dead but it has gone a lot quieter I don't do facebook so I guess i'm missing some stuff

dave

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

going have to upload some pics of my xls. its done a fair bit of work now but runs great

[Peakey]

does most rc talk take place on facebook nowadays? This site is dead

Yeah Facebook is taking over a bit I can see it's a lot easier to add pics and stuff but you can't reference stuff on there like you can here. I'll have a couple of projects to put some pics up when I get chance to work on them

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

has anybody heard if schumacher have got any plans to re release any of their other iconic buggies?

[Peakey]

has anybody heard if schumacher have got any plans to re release any of their other iconic buggies?

Wait for the toy fair at the end of the month I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll be another re re in 2wd form along with the new Cat K3 or whatever there going to call it

[Wolvie]

Wait for the toy fair at the end of the month I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll be another re re in 2wd form along with the new Cat K3 or whatever there going to call it

Hopefully I may achieve my teenage dream to eventually race a topcat.
Fingers crossed!!!

[xfactor]

My first real RC race buggy was the Top Cat. Cost £74.99 back then. The first run of them had a slight problem with the front keep dropping down. Schumacher changed something on the front which sorted it.

Then the cougar came out and Schumacher did a front cougar conversion for £29.99 which converted the front to upright shocks.

Loved both to be honest............:thumbsup:

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Did schumacher have much success race wise with any of their early 2wd buggies? I know the cats were hugely successful but dont know much about the early 2wd cars

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

id love a re re of the works cougar with all of that lovely anodising.

[Wolvie]

Yes this one was fantastic too!

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

love all the shiny purple parts, very nice. id have to have two though. one to run and one to look at

[Retro RC]

love all the shiny purple parts, very nice. id have to have two though. one to run and one to look at

Lol or just go nuts like me and own 5 of them:thumbsup:

[oldenoughtoknowbetter]

Lol or just go nuts like me and own 5 of them:thumbsup:

I wish!!!

[Bigdawgracer]

Hi all,

I raced these back in the day and someone at the club even had a pre-production roller! Being more used to Hotshots and Optimas this thing blew our minds at the time!

Anyways last week there was one of these racing and it brought back loads of memories, so much so that i’m Thinking of getting one but have a few questions first.

Can I run saddle lipos?
Is there a conversion to run modern hex wheels?
What is the motor limit with or without the transmission up-grade?

Thanks for reading!

[fidspeed]

Kit comes with old stickpack style nimh battery fittings and shorty lipo option
which is best solution
I think I have seen somewhere castle to 12mm hex adapter possibly shapeways?
Irun 10.5 with boost at worksop indoors on original transmission no issues so far and is plenty quick enough I have upgraded transmission just not got round to fitting it yet
buy build enjoy!!!

Dave

[Bigdawgracer]

Thanks Dave,

Got loads of saddle lipos and hex wheels so makes sense to run these if I can?!

Seem to remember running the old saddle ‘soft’ pack batteries back in the day, no plastic cases or shrink wrap back then.....lol

[Groomi]

There was a saddle chassis option from Schumacher back in the day.

You can get them in carbon from Fibrelyte here: http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/fl/cars/schumacher/catxls.html but you'll need to make a cradle to hold modern lipo's.

[fidspeed]

Shapeways indeed do castle to hex adaptors 4 or 5mm thickness if you order a set please let me know how you get on might order a set myself
Regards dave

[fidspeed]

Forgot to add id just buy couple shorty lipos clamps and fittings already in kit saves faffing about
Dave

[Bigdawgracer]

Cheers Dave and Groomi,

Seriously tempted now. Done a lot of reading up last day or so.

Would be great to race one of these again.

How do they fare against modern stuff?

I'm assuming an original Bosscat, like I used to run, would command a mega high price these days if I could find one?
Did they come with a saddle pack chassis as standard?

Cheers!:thumbsup:

[daz75]

Cheers Dave and Groomi,

Seriously tempted now. Done a lot of reading up last day or so.

Would be great to race one of these again.

How do they fare against modern stuff?

I'm assuming an original Bosscat, like I used to run, would command a mega high price these days if I could find one?
Did they come with a saddle pack chassis as standard?

Cheers!:thumbsup:


Boss cat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 332512621775

[Peakey]

Boss cat

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 332512621775

That’s just a sport god knows whey it went so high, not really worth half that