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Team No Idea
05-02-2009, 04:03 PM
During my rookie racing season last year i have had mahoosive fun down at FORCC. Starting off as most of us do, crash, bang wallet and slowly improving as the year has gone on.
One thing i have recently started to notice however is that the general standard of driving at the club seems to be getting really impressive. The racing is faster and feels alot closer than it did just 12 short months ago. (does anyone else at FORCC feel this is happening or is it my imagination?)
Anyway, the younger members of the club are also flying round at the moment with good clean racing and often finishing the night well into the top 15. This is a massive pat on the back club in general ! :thumbsup:

I recently took part in the Petit RC and one of the young members of FORCC was there and put in some really impressive drives.!
Now this chap comes to FORCC week in week out and is on a similar level to alot of the teenagers at the club.
I think what im trying to say, is that i have come into this sport very late in life, i'm never going to make the A final at a regional or national event. I dont have the years of experience behind me but i do have massive amounts of fun. But already i can see that filtering youngsters away from their playstations and onto Model Cars is a huge battle to fight.
This just means that the ones who are coming along to club meets in general need to be helped along the way to regional and indeed national events so that we don't waste the talent that is already under our noses and also help to develop skills and hopefully keep the future of the sport safe.

Once again i will be doing the South east Regionals this year and no doubt ill have the lady with the cake in tow.
But this year i intend to make use of the empty seats in the car by taking along some of the yougsters from our club that have shown a keen interest in wanting to come along to meetings they would otherwise not get chance to go to.

I know its a subject thats comes up all the time and im sorry to bore you all to death. But i think we can all do a bit to keep model car racing as good as it is now.

Thanks for reading;)

jim76
05-02-2009, 05:00 PM
But this year i intend to make use of the empty seats in the car by taking along some of the yougsters from our club that have shown a keen interest in wanting to come along to meetings they would otherwise not get chance to go to.


Although i don't race at Faversham (i did many many moons ago!), I was once a teenager racing at various clubs in the south east. I was lucky enough that a few fellow racers in the region (Bren Ralls, Adam Hampton and a few others) took me along to regional events so that i could experience a higher level of racing. As you say, it helps young lads develope their driving ability and i am very grateful to them for the help they gave me.

Hopefully other people will share your view and take along any club members that don't have transport.
:thumbsup:

oh, and that obviously applies to all regions!

discostu
05-02-2009, 11:28 PM
i gotta agree there is some very good young drivers coming up the ranks as you know i havent been racing down faversham again for very long iv naoticed there is a couple of young lads that could be very good and a push in the right direction is needed but if you dont ask the question you will never know the problem that happends and it happends at every club and that is getting stuck in the same routine the problem with this a driver who has talent will never be at the top of the list purly down to lack of racing experience for example take the top six on wednesday all of us have raced at national or top end reginal level and its that racng experience that alows us to run that 2 3 tenth alap faster. there is a couple of youngsters that could be up there in my opion young will with the atomic b44 the car looks very good on the race track and i dont beive the setup is anywere near perfect tom bates is let down by lack of maintance and a out dated losi xx4. but both of these drivers could be very good.

stu rand

gotta say racig off road again is so much fun im loving every minuit cant wait to get racing outside.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

David Church
06-02-2009, 06:14 AM
As the newly appointed 1/10th PRO I will help in every way I can!!!
It is great you are willing to help out other drivers, especially the younger/newer drivers.
The way forward is to race at as many different clubs possible and as often as possible. Yes FORCC have a great following and they should be congratulated for the work they have done!!!!
Off road outdoors nearly died in our region, when I started racing outside there was only 1 track, and I think only about 10 people turned up for that meeting, the Crawley track is no more, and 1 or 2 tracks have come and gone, but we now have 2 permanent outdoor tracks, Eden Park and West kent, and we are hoping FORCC hold a few rounds of the regional series this year.
So get to as many of these tracks/races as possible!!!
And it may even be possible to race at the national at Eden park as well.
yes it is a big step up, but a step that is definetly possible.
So bring all the people you can, if you need any help please ask, enjoy your racing and of course the company!!!!
DC

Southwell
06-02-2009, 08:14 AM
As the newly appointed 1/10th PRO I will help in every way I can!!!


Congrats mate :thumbsup:

I think we should have trophy girls at every national! :drool:

brookie
06-02-2009, 10:09 PM
Martin & Dave

What can I say but what a thread and some top postings in here!
I hope everybody (nationwide never mind just Regionally!) appreciates that the BRCA, myself and DC are right behind you and anybody else that has such initiatives!

Anything that anybody can do (I'll be dragging some of Chris' mates along to Regionals and maybe End of Season Finals this year) to get the kids (and we all know and appreciate how heavily FORCC supports their youngsters!) racing outside of the club environment will be appreciated and welcomed.

We also need the youngsters and their mentors to think about the End of Season Finals and especially the Junior events (and possibly the EPR National? And Chris says they could come and watch the best in the country even if they unfortunately miss out on an entry!). The South East were so close to the top of the Championship at the 2008 Junior/Veteran event (2nd!) all we were lacking was numbers! And if those numbers have got ability and it sounds like FORCC are bringing more through, so much the better! You never know they might even surprise themselves!

Anyway, better stop now, could carry on and on. We also now have Dave Church as the 1:10 Off-road section PRO and, as he's already said, he'll be right behind such initiatives.
More power to your elbow, lets get right behind this!

If anybody wants to know more about the Regionals, Nationals or End of Season Finals they can get me on here or my email address and phone number is in the BRCA Handbook.

Steve

David Church
07-02-2009, 09:33 AM
There are great post's in here!!!!

I would like to hear from more members from FORCC on what they think can be done???:D

Tractor Boy
07-02-2009, 05:44 PM
Where do you start on such a question, theres a few things i could say but i think it would upset a few people, not that this bothers me but this time i will keep my mouth shut.
Our main aim at FORCCis as you say Steve is to bring the young ones through, at the mo we have over 20 under 18s.
But the main thing that will hold most of them back is not lack of talent it,s COST simple as that COST.
At our club you get budget racing simple as that low cost affordable by
all.

Gnarly Old Dog
07-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Being a 'Home-Counties-on-vacation' racer, I had to find myself a new regional home last year and, despite Trevor Brown's best efforts with the EoE, the South East is closer and that's where I ended up.

I've got to say that the Faversham regionals were excellent in 08. I loved the track but even more so, I thought the club organisation, their friendliness and their obvious desire to see youngsters racing was top notch.

I hope to see more 'club' racers at the SE regionals this year. I disagree that the series enforces any extra cost over club racing - it can be just a day out at a different track but the excitement of driving somewhere different is definitely worth experiencing.
Agreed you can go mad with the cost of racing but you don't have to. I ran the entire regional and national 2WD series last year with 1 motor that NEVER came out of my car. I used 4 packs of cells and generally needed only 1 set of tyres per national (which could then be run at the regionals).

I miss the old South of Watford leagues and the inter club-rivalry that they, and the clubmans finals used to generate but the regional series is a fantastic opportunity for anyone to 'grow' beyond a single club and I would recommend them to anyone - especially youngsters.

If you're worried about not knowing anyone then come over and make yourself known - we don't bite (well, most of us) and if you need any help or set up advice, you'll find a wealth of knowledge just waiting to be tapped.

Come over and say hi to an old dog in 09 ;-)

trekkerkk
07-02-2009, 06:30 PM
i must say i miss the south off watford meetings as well,
i have some great memorys,
at those if i remember rightly,
didnt juniors have seperate finals and points.
maybe somthing like that could be arranged,
this might encourage the youngsters to try some outdoor racing at different venues,


trekkker

David Church
07-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Alan, Now is the time to say how you feel!!!! We are trying to move our sport on!!!! There is plenty of room for all South East clubs!!!!
I am confident we can hear your opinion on a public forum and respond in a polite way!!!
This is all about moving our sport forward, and I believe all that have responded are in favour of this!!! And we all do value your opinion!!!!

Minster68
07-02-2009, 08:00 PM
In answer to " what can we do to help", I think any youngster in our sport is of the X-Box or Playstation age. By youngster I mean under 19's. Fast reactions and good eye to thumb coordination is a given. How else are they going to kill that alien in Gears of War II or lift that trophy in Gran Turismo..

Being able to drive an RC car is very close to second nature for these whipper snappers, but what they lack is the skill to set the car up. It's the knowledge of what to change and when, on the car that will take them to higher levels of our sport.

Faversham is certainly great at helping it's younger and older members with both car set up and maintenance. I've seen many of the top drivers helping out with repairs and set ups. Not something that I have always seem, at some of the clubs that I have been to.

So what can we do to help? Keep our clubs friendly, carry on being open and helping with repairs and set ups.

As the saying goes, "Knowledge is power", lets give our younger members that power..

Big G. :D

rc_penguin
07-02-2009, 09:11 PM
In answer to " what can we do to help", I think any youngster in our sport is of the X-Box or Playstation age. By youngster I mean under 19's. Fast reactions and good eye to thumb coordination is a given. How else are they going to kill that alien in Gears of War II or lift that trophy in Gran Turismo..

Being able to drive an RC car is very close to second nature for these whipper snappers, but what they lack is the skill to set the car up. It's the knowledge of what to change and when, on the car that will take them to higher levels of our sport.

Faversham is certainly great at helping it's younger and older members with both car set up and maintenance. I've seen many of the top drivers helping out with repairs and set ups. Not something that I have always seem, at some of the clubs that I have been to.

So what can we do to help? Keep our clubs friendly, carry on being open and helping with repairs and set ups.

As the saying goes, "Knowledge is power", lets give our younger members that power..

Big G. :D

:lol: Thats brilliant!!! :lol: you've made my day now Gordon :D

Minster68
07-02-2009, 09:25 PM
Your welcome,

Once you have your B44 dialed in, your going to be near unstoppable...

Sony and Microsoft have a lot to answer for...:cry:

Big G

rc_penguin
07-02-2009, 09:26 PM
Atomised b44 actually :p

gav4wd
08-02-2009, 09:22 AM
I think Gordon has answered that spot on.
The thread never was pointed at a certain club being better or worse for the sport as far as i can see, ive been doing 1/10th for about 19 years on and off and seen alot of change i.e clubs and series gone cells and motor changes and for me the new age and off road being reborn again is great, with lipo and brushless you now can spend your money and know you have good equipment which has always been a grey area, so with this cost is cheaper now than when i tried higher level racing.
Setup :o some people make it seem easy myself even with all the racing ive done i still struggle to get it straight away the reason is racing in one club takes away setup changes i.e racing in FORCC once the car is setup i very rarely change so with this you do not get an understanding of what changes do, so try other tracks try altering the car see what it does make a note of the change for future refrence and most of all ask other peoples advise the top guys do not bite and they are normal people nothing special depite the t- shirts and stickers :lol: and most of all enjoy after all its only toy car racing;).
maybe 09 will be the year for the South East

David Church
08-02-2009, 12:43 PM
I agree Neil, this thread was never about who's club is better!!!
It is about how to better our sport and the drivers in our sport!!!
Setup is all important, and I must say after 6 years or so in the sport, I am still rubbish at setup!!!:cry:
But asking for help is a great way of learning. There are many guys that are more than willing to offer advice, but people must be prepared to ask!
This means approaching people that do understand setup. Just make sure you ask at an appropiate time.
I don't think the top guys would just go up to a newbie and tell them what they are doing wrong, this could be interpreted as being pushy, so it is a delicate issue!!! But as newbie's become more familiar I am sure plenty of setup advice would be on offer.:D:D:D

Gnarly Old Dog
08-02-2009, 01:29 PM
I don't think the top guys would just go up to a newbie and tell them what they are doing wrong, this could be interpreted as being pushy, so it is a delicate issue!!! But as newbie's become more familiar I am sure plenty of setup advice would be on offer.:D:D:D

Absolutely Dave - hit the nail right on the head.
It's not always appreciated if you go upto someone you don't know and then proceed to tear their set up or preparation to shreds - even if it is well meant with the best intentions so most of the top guys keep a respectable distance
But don't ever think that those guys are not approachable. Most are 'top' guys because they are prepared to talk through things with a newbie to help them to get more out of their racing.
I went to a TC open meeting recently and pitted next to Elliott Harper. The lad has left an indelible impression on me - not simply because he's undeniably quick, but because he was prepared to discuss how my TC set up could be changed to improve the handling and how he obviously does all his own prep himself.
He didn't come over to me though - I simply went up and asked.

There's a huge amount of racing experience in the SE region. For anyone who wants to learn more about their own set ups, or how to drive a particular section - just ask any of the 'fast' guys.

I may not be a 'top driver' or a 'fast guy' myself but I am always 100% prepared to share my set up advice or understanding with anyone - if they really want to try things out. I get a lot of satisfaction out of helping others - even if they then go out and beat me with my own set up:blush:

discostu
08-02-2009, 05:05 PM
thats what you tend to find with all the world spec drivers excelent prep and a very mathodical way of thinking about setups and what the car is doing on the race track. ive raced againts elliot andy moore ollie jeffreis chris grainger and there out set on the way the car is preped and setup is about the same and some times its a good think just to watch and think how can i change my technics and prep to acheive this.

we are here to help and give freindly advise if you dont want to take it thats fine too.

stu

Team No Idea
09-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Hello, thanks for everyones comments:D, this thread was purely about using the extra space in your car and an extra 5 mins of your time to give the youngsters further experience in off road racing.
It was NEVER about any club being better than any other, and my only mistake was to put this thread in the FORCC forum rather than the general South East forum.

On the matter of cost, yes it can be very expensive if you have got and endless pocket and want to make it all the way to the top but on the other hand it doesn't have to be so.......... for example, at the end of last season Steve Andrews ran a end of season round at WKCC, I took along Jordan and Tom who both had a cracking days racing, loads of fun, gained further off road experience and were both using their indoor setups, tyres and 27turn motors !! :lol:

Throughout last year i got huge support from lots of top drivers from various clubs who were more than willing to help out any way they could, for which im am very, very grateful and hopefully i can pass on any knowledge they have given me to someone else!

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 01:40 PM
I think we moved of the subjet a bit.
Here are a few idears i have in answer to how to inprove are sport.
Why don,t we let the juniors race for free at this years regianols, even if this means putting a few quid on the seniors race fees.
Next split the championship into three like we have ie under 14s,under19s and seniors. i know this brings in extra expense but i think it will make it more attractive to the kids, after all when you are young winning somethink means so much more.
My last point may well open a few eyes but here goes.
Last year my lot went along to Dunkirk village fete where we had a great time but most inportant we met the public face to face doing what we all love racing. The intrest was amazing and we picked up 2 new junior members that are still with us now. There are many fetes out there so what i am saying how many off you are prepaired to come along and show what we do and tell them all about are sport. Remember we have trouble fitting in are regionals last year so you will have to give up some sort off racing it may class with the euros who knows but would you do it i wounder. Its ok saying come over and ask for help with your setup but will you go that extra step.
Hope to here from you all love Alan.

Team No Idea
09-02-2009, 04:08 PM
[quote=Tractor Boy;206731]
Next split the championship into three like we have ie under 14s,under19s and seniors. i know this brings in extra expense but i think it will make it more attractive to the kids, after all when you are young winning somethink means so much more.quote]

That idea works really well in our winter series Alan, certainly a few of the lads showed a bit more desire to do well when they knew they stood a chance of being up the top of the table, and we have all seen how close the racing has been!:thumbsup:

Fetes and public events are a great way of getting the message out there too, sadly i missed the last one due to working on saturdays but if the opportunity came up again i'd be there to fly the flag in the future!

Hog
09-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Until such time as R/C racing becomes mainstream TV entertainment the only way to get out there and actively encourage new members is to meet them face to face and show them what we do.

Unfortunately it seems that most of the R/C magazines (and some model shops too) are currently only catering for monster trucks and rock climbing! As Alan pointed out the fete's we've done in the past are immense fun and show the public exactly what we do - not what they think we do.

You'd be amazed that even after 20+ years of FORCC there are STILL people who live round the corner who have no idea what's going on right under their noses.

To keep our hobby alive it's not just a case of prising kids away from their consoles, it's actively encouraging them and giving them achievable targets. That's the responsibility of each and every one of us who's been around a while. Not just helping with friendly advice but also those in positions of authority to make leagues and championships a more attractive proposition by splitting the "haves" from the "have nots" - and that means experience as well as budget!

Garry Spice
09-02-2009, 05:43 PM
heres a novel idea...how about a 2 day meeting at the county show? 2wd saturday and 4wd sunday??? just think of the people who see what we`d do? plus tv and media.

rc_penguin
09-02-2009, 05:45 PM
I have an xbox 360 elite, havent touched it in over 3 months though :blush:

Hog
09-02-2009, 05:58 PM
Kent show this year is Friday 17th July to Sunday 19th July. For some reason it's always either scorching hot or stupidly wet the weekend of the show.

Nice idea Garry - might be worth following that one up......

rc_penguin
09-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Theres also the model show at the hop farm some time in september, the show seems to be growing vastly year by year and theres a good array of kids and adults alike. there is normally the dover bashers club up there but that is more based on people attempting backflips and stuff and blowing there cars to bits. none of the kind of racing we have

Garry Spice
09-02-2009, 06:24 PM
when parkwood was about we done school fates and stuff(gordon knows).they was brill and got a lot of interest.we had a `have ago car` and pamphlets.the county show would be ace.like a mini national!!!! oh,alan is it to late to renew my membership???

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 06:39 PM
It,s never to late to join mate, you know you are always welcome.
Thanks for the replies so far lets keep them coming maybe you guy from futher afield would like to post some idears.
We have the south east AGM coming up next week so it would be great to have some feed back on these idears so we can discuss them on your behalf.
I shall be there this year you lucky people ha ha, and will have 50 or so idears from my club members to talk about.

David Church
09-02-2009, 06:48 PM
It's great to see all these ideas!!!!
Here is a few thoughts.
As far as a junior championship, this already exists and has done so for years. We all race together as we have done, and all score regionals championship points, but then the juniors have a championship within the regional championship, ie scoring points towards the junior championship. This has worked well for a few years. At the end of the year the juniors have scored regional points which goes towards their drivers grade, and also the End of season finals, and if you put them in a spearate class they would not be eligable for regional points, which would mean there drivers grade could not improve, so I thinks it's best to leave it as it is, but I may be wrong, Steve Brooke, our regional rep could possibly answer this better.

I also e mailed Kent County Showgrounds last year asking if we could hold some meetings there with no reply from them, so another attempt would certainly be a great idea.

As far as Fete's go, this is another great idea!!!! If we could publicise this I am sure we could get drivers to go, but if it was the same weekend as a National or Euro's I am sure the numbers would be lower. Many of us that do these series have had to commit to them already and have to pay our entry wether we go or not.

Keep these good ideas coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

3975dave
09-02-2009, 07:45 PM
From a publicity point of view I would have to agree that fete's and shows are the only way to as Dave said "show the public what we really do and not what they think we do." That way they can see not only the fun that can be had but the age range that take part. Far more powerfull advertising than a poster I would think.

From a racing or racers view I think we lack a form of regional racing during the winter months. We have two clubs running successful winter championships and offering very different types of racing. I personally feel that if we could get together and organise say a 3 round series for next winter to run alongside the other winter series it may persuade people to travel around a bit more and i feel that would only strengthen the region as a whole. I'm sure with a bit of effort we could achieve this.

As for end of season finals I think the Southeast could well be there in much stronger numbers this year:thumbsup:.

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 07:48 PM
Fair play Dave but im sure we can come up with somethink regards the regionals and the kids. Last year i think we had only 4 juniors who done anuff rounds to qualify for anythink in the 4wd, this is rubbish if i am going to talk my lot into coming we have got to give them somethink to aim at.How good will we look as a region if we have 20 plus under 18s in the mix.
So get thinking boys.
Regads the fetes i under stand what you say Dave but at somepoint we all need to pull in the same direction not just my boys.

David Church
09-02-2009, 08:04 PM
Point taken Alan, this will give us some more to discuss at the AGM.
I am confident all this discussion is helping our region, thanks guys!!!

brookie
09-02-2009, 08:40 PM
Righto…..deep breath, there’s been a raft of postings since I left work, hope you’re all sitting down!

Firstly, haven’t got a problem with Juniors racing for free, which would obviously be a decision for the clubs to be made at our Regional meeting. Personally agree with the idea, as I know of a couple of drivers that would greatly appreciate that sort of help! We would however have to clearly define ‘Junior’. The BRCA recognise 2 Junior classes, Under 13 and Under 16, both ages being as of the 1st January in that respective year. However if we want to go with Under 14 and Under 19 that again would be a collective decision but as DC has quite rightly pointed out they would have to be Championships within the main Championship so as not to impact on final overall positions and the following years formula’s.
This would also require a certain amount of extra effort on the part of the clubs, confirming classes with myself (something which I struggled to obtain previously) so that accurate Championship positions can be maintained.

Am a little concerned that it has not been recognised that we do currently (and have done so since the passing of former Regional Rep. John Cheeseman) a separate Junior Championship within our existing Regionals! Unfortunately (and this brings us back to the original point of this thread) many Juniors (and even more Seniors for that matter!) either only do one class (2WD is v.light in Junior numbers) or only race at their local clubs venue thereby not accruing enough points to have an impact on the Junior Championship. A certain Kyle Moon being one exception to this having finished third in the Junior 4WD Championship in 2008 and 7 places in front of his Dad!

As Alan quite rightly pointed out we only had 4 Juniors doing sufficient counting rounds in 4WD and only THREE in 2WD. It was worse still at the National Junior event, only ONE in the Under 13 category (to show what can be achieved, Jay Holmes finished on the podium both days) and TWO in the Under 16 category, in fact we had more representation in the Veterans (come on be honest there are more Over 40’s out there) THREE than either of the Junior classes!

As has been mentioned before and has been experienced by a few SE drivers in recent years there are End of Season Finals specifically for all the lower formulas, Juniors (in both age groups) and even the veterans, where the SE has the double 2008 Champion, eh DC?

Alan, applaud your (or any) clubs efforts getting our hobby out into the community, something many of us have tried to do with differing degrees of success and are continuing to do! Unfortunately, as you point out, it’s all about dates and everybody’s other commitments, whether they be to RC or not. So the bottom line is for any club in the Region (or any Region) to heavily publicise any dates such as your event that they may be involved with, using their own and other clubs websites, the popular forums, magazines and (if I ever get my PC back and fixed) the SE Regional email list that I have built and see if we can get more drivers out there.

And if anybody has got any ideas how to get local TV radio and press involved can they please share? We tried for last years EPR National and failed to get one single response, one for the new BRCA PRO me thinks!

I would think that RCC Racer magazine would also be willing to help, they have done so previously at similar events nationwide, normally supplying a quantity of back issues of magazines to be distributed, for free, amongst interested watchers. Just ask Matt! The ‘other’ magazine may only feature minority interest classes but I think you’ll find that RCC Racer continues to support off-road publicising National, Regional & Club events and off-road kit reviews. If you want your club featured or reports published it only requires a few well crafted words and in-focus pictures and I’m sure Matt would feature them in the Club Racer section? And yes I am biased!

Unfortunately the Southport National is on the weekend of the 18/19 July so no Regional anywhere that weekend I’m afraid! That’s not to say that any club/s could not approach the organisers about some form of race/demonstration but unfortunately the National competitiors would not be around.

Whew!!! Sorry!!!

David Church
09-02-2009, 08:59 PM
WOW, bet your finger hurts eh Steve!!!!:lol:

Yes any ideas on how to get the media involved would be very helpful, I have many many people to contact to try to get some coverage!!!

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 09:15 PM
Thanks Steve for such a great reply, what it shows is that we are singing from the same hymn sheet with that in mind the AGM will be great this year and trust me we will take the end of season finals buy storm this year, under 16s under13s and the vets as well move over Mr Church Alans coming ha ha:p.

spenner
09-02-2009, 09:27 PM
I personally think we need to make R/C Racing Cool or Hip Hop for the youngsters.... Not only that but as has already been mentioned by some on here, travelling is an issue. Perhaps parents don't have the time nowadays or have to work extra due to the current fanancial situations.

One thing you never see now are Race meetings at shows ???? I personally used to attend plenty of these when i was a lad, and the amount of families who used to watch was great. If you managed to get 2 racers from a show then it is an increase!!!

What about going into schools and doing some demonstrations or showing videos, handing out magazines etc......
But remember to keep it cool/hip hop..... bodyshells with DJ Ionic on it or N Dubz, Big jumps for the off road cars, a couple of drifter cars with all the neons etc.... Make it appeal to them.
(I'm not into any of the above musical artists, so please don't criticise. Just doing some research)

I applaud Mr Church for taking on the role of PRO, but i often wonder if we actually do enough to promote the hobby ???

It's not the big meetings that will bring in new Racers..... Yes they are great spectacle's and would be great on TV, which RC Racing is doing quite a good job (pretty much the same events shown in my eyes). The magazines are great and provide reports and tips etc for drivers.
I do still think we tend to focus more on the estabilished drivers though!! Take Racer Magazine for instance, for the 10th National reports they do the driver part, great idea and gives you some idea about the racers. Why not do a top driver and then a newbie.... find out what they like in R/C, etc...etc

So many ideas and im sure people have plenty more, get them down for the new PRO too look through and give him a helping hand. I do feel DC is the sort of guy who will look to improve the sport.

Anyway........

brookie
09-02-2009, 09:32 PM
Thanks Alan, sorry it was sooo long-winded, tried to answer as many points as poss. in one go!

Fantastic news about the End of Season Finals, Juniors & Veterans, unfortunately at least one of our Juniors is now too old (!) but I really do believe that with a little more support we (the SE) really could upset some of the established Regions and following last years close call who knows what we could do?
As for your challenge to the double 2008 Champ, this I gotta see!

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 09:45 PM
Don,t expect to much from me Steve but i have got to bring my 2 kids along to it so i might as well give the vets a go while im there plus think i have at least 2 more to come with me to take part in the vets so maybe i won,t be last, lets be honest i will be.

raaccyyyyy lllaaddyyyy
09-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Don,t expect to much from me Steve but i have got to bring my 2 kids along to it so i might as well give the vets a go while im there plus think i have at least 2 more to come with me to take part in the vets so maybe i won,t be last, lets be honest i will be.

Have faith Al, i'm sure the cat will kick some bottom!! ;) And without doubt Kyle will better his 3rd Place this season.

Steve, can i race with the juniors this year pleeeeease!! :lol:

3975dave
09-02-2009, 09:55 PM
Have faith Al, i'm sure the cat will kick some bottom!! ;) And without doubt Kyle will better his 3rd Place this season.

Steve, can i race with the juniors this year pleeeeease!! :lol:


If you bring enough cake you might be able to bribe the officials :D

raaccyyyyy lllaaddyyyy
09-02-2009, 09:57 PM
If you bring enough cake you might be able to bribe the officials :D

Won't have enough room in the car for extra cake with the juniors taking up the space!!! :lol::lol:

3975dave
09-02-2009, 09:58 PM
Dont worry I can get a trailor:p

Tractor Boy
09-02-2009, 10:00 PM
It works on me, after all Tracey makes into the A final every week, i,d jump through hops for cake, ummmmm cake.:D

raaccyyyyy lllaaddyyyy
09-02-2009, 10:08 PM
It works on me, after all Tracey makes into the A final every week, i,d jump through hops for cake, ummmmm cake.:D

Mmmm a whole tub of cake to yourself last week if i remember rightly!! :p
I'm gutted i'm not there this week as i actually managed to qualify not in the bottom group for the first time!! (hint hint for next week!!)

Anyway, back to the point in hand, it's great to see everyone feels the same on this subject and i'm willing to help out anyway with liasing with schools, fete's etc if DC needs a female's touch with persuasion! :lol:

brookie
09-02-2009, 10:37 PM
Flippin' 'eck you can't turn your back on this one for very long!

Fantastic news Alan, the more the merrier!
I know it's a whole season away but it'll be good to see if the SE can all keep close together and all help each other out! You just might never know what we can ALL do!

Tracey - mmmmm cake!!! Now choosing my words carefully here, sorry I don't think I can include you with the Juniors, think you may have just (I know it was VERY close) missed the cut-off date, sorry! And by the way the last time we tried to bribe officials I got knocked out of a National A Final!

Seriously though any help that you can give DC (and myself) would I'm know be very gratefully accepted!

David Church
10-02-2009, 06:38 AM
All this positive help from you lot!!!! Well done, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside!!!!:cry::D

let's keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!