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budgio
07-02-2009, 08:04 PM
Hmm looks a bit B4 ish to me


http://rcspecial.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ansmann0602094.jpg


£50 B4 clone?

Lee Martin
08-02-2009, 10:47 AM
losi front - B4 rear....

bmx833
08-02-2009, 12:38 PM
b4 shock towers, basically a stealth b4 with a losi front

mark christopher
08-02-2009, 01:42 PM
im sure my b4 has shocks behind the tower!!!!!

guess the green ansman will be its downfall

Welshy40
08-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Resemblence of the B4 is there, however the shocks are in a different place on the front and of course the motor, where is it hiding, as its not on the back, so possibly in board. We want more pictures, if there are any out there.

BugFreak
17-02-2009, 05:15 AM
A couple of pics...:thumbsup:
Looks good I think.. release is around april/may..
Price... cheaper then the rest..:lol:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_01.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_02.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_04.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_05.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_07.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_10.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_13.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_12.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_13.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_06.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000009_x_pro_buggy_08.jpg

A truck version will also be avaliable...!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000010_xt_pro_truck_01.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000010_xt_pro_truck_02.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/NorwegianVariant/122000010_xt_pro_truck_04.jpg

RogerM
17-02-2009, 09:42 AM
Some nice touches in there, especially like the 3 cable clips for the motor wires on the rear tower .... why don't they all do that? As it's 3 wires it means they must be thinking brushless = planning on selling it to racers.

Nothing in those pics that makes me think it won't be a capable club car if nothing else ...... even the front shocks are on the correct side of the tower :)

jimmy
17-02-2009, 09:51 AM
Looks rather good - shame about the name tho, eh!

DCM
17-02-2009, 10:49 AM
that does look like a good effort, I just hope that all those nice bits aren't upgrades, but come on the car as standard.

ashleyb4
17-02-2009, 12:34 PM
looks cool losi front end b4 rear end.

A

Gayo
17-02-2009, 12:39 PM
At least! The Losi XXXX :p

GRIFF55
17-02-2009, 12:41 PM
£50, where is that price from??? looks quite good if thats right:thumbsup:

jim76
17-02-2009, 12:57 PM
pic in original post looks like an RB5 front end? Roger?

Scouser
17-02-2009, 01:27 PM
I think they both look fantastic and I hope they do well. It would be nice to see the odd Ansmann/Traxxas/Duratrax/whatever instead of the usual stuff. The fact that some of the biggest stores are carrying these cars means there will be good backup so no worries about parts availability. :thumbsup:

Fabs
17-02-2009, 01:31 PM
the whole car looks like an RB5.

jimmy
17-02-2009, 01:40 PM
Who imports these ansmann badboys? Might be a review worthy dancer:thumbsup:

DCM
17-02-2009, 01:43 PM
http://www.ansmann.de/cms/sales/distributors-europe/united-kingdom.html

rcracer
17-02-2009, 01:43 PM
Who imports these ansmann badboys? Might be a review worthy dancer:thumbsup:

jespares isnt it :confused:

jimmy
17-02-2009, 01:45 PM
The Digital Camera Company:lol::thumbdown::bored:

mark christopher
17-02-2009, 01:46 PM
jimmy
http://www.ansmann.de/cms/en/wwwcontact/contact-persons/uk.html

click racing http://www.ansmann.de/cms/en/racingroot.html

there was a ansmann stand at the nec autosport show and he was doing roaring trade

rcracer
17-02-2009, 01:48 PM
The Digital Camera Company:lol::thumbdown::bored:

:wtf:

jimmy
17-02-2009, 02:00 PM
Sent 'em an email - will see what they say (no, not the digital camera company haha)

Scouser
17-02-2009, 02:02 PM
I reckon you should contact them Jimmy, tell them you intend to do a review and see what they can do to help. For a new brand to break into the 2wd market, a little oOple review could help them no end (as long as the car is good obviously!!).:thumbsup:

DCM
17-02-2009, 02:59 PM
I know there is a UK section, one of the sales reps is Jamie Thomas and is down Swansea way, can't remember his email though.

DCM
17-02-2009, 03:11 PM
60 euros for a basic kit, 130euros for the 'pro' kit.

jimmy
17-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Where did you find that?

DCM
17-02-2009, 03:26 PM
German model shoop (Modelbau) but not sure if they are in stock, as no image, just a price listing, but even at $130euro, if it is half decent, should be good!!!

DCM
17-02-2009, 03:32 PM
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.cmc-versand.de/Ansmann-Racing-Buggy-110-2WD-Mad-arnr-67-124000006.html&ei=etWaSbmSIYaS_gbyyNCYCg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dansmann%2Bmadrat%26hl%3Den%26client%3 Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN

Robbiejuk
17-02-2009, 06:44 PM
"1:10 2WD EP Buggy Mad Council R"

:) I had forgotten that Rathaus was the town hall in German :thumbsup:

I really hope this is a good alternative 2wd buggy for beginners, wonder if they will do a RTR with the ansmann brushless system.

Scouser
17-02-2009, 07:04 PM
If they come in at a decent price I might just pick one up to have a little bash with them. They look well thought out and those cvds look super beefy!

brian s
18-02-2009, 07:54 PM
From the pictures it looks like this will be a budget racer that will come with a ball differential. There's a few AE/Losi clones out there in the budget bracket and most of them are let down with the only differential option of a geared fixed ratio item.

The MadRat looks quite good.

jim76
18-02-2009, 10:40 PM
now i've been able to see all the pics posted (they don't show on my work PC for some reason), it is just a half price RB5!! It is practically identical. As long and the plastic isn't made out of chocolate and the alloy isn't made out of cheese it should be a seriously capable regional level car, and in the right hands could make a decent stab at nationals.

DaveG28
19-02-2009, 12:42 AM
Hmm, on Ansmann's website, there are 3, and the pro version (the others being basic and rtr) is €150. By the time someone imports it and does the usual UK pricing, this is gonna be pretty expensive isn't it at todays exchange rates?

How much do B4FT's go for in the shops?

Jez
19-02-2009, 12:55 AM
Hmm, on Ansmann's website, there are 3, and the pro version (the others being basic and rtr) is €150. By the time someone imports it and does the usual UK pricing, this is gonna be pretty expensive isn't it at todays exchange rates?

How much do B4FT's go for in the shops?rrp £199

N7ELA
19-02-2009, 02:12 AM
Its a beefed up B4. With a couple of minor mods... Looks good though....

Chris Ward
19-02-2009, 11:03 AM
Well the buggy and the truck are both listed on Fusion Hobbies as coming soon and priced at £139.99...

http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Coming-Soon-s/125.htm

Darren Boyle
19-02-2009, 11:34 AM
Well the buggy and the truck are both listed on Fusion Hobbies as coming soon and priced at £139.99...

http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Coming-Soon-s/125.htm

TBH I would rather have a Team B4 at that money......its is proven and not a lot more in cost.

DaveG28
19-02-2009, 11:54 AM
TBH I would rather have a Team B4 at that money......its is proven and not a lot more in cost.

Your right, but something different is always tempting!! This looks ok enough for me to be interested!

sosidge
19-02-2009, 12:04 PM
If the pound hadn't fallen so hard against the Euro this would have been a £99 kit...

RogerM
19-02-2009, 12:13 PM
Comparing it to the B4 is all well and good but not everybody likes the B4 ....

Chris Doughty
19-02-2009, 12:33 PM
Comparing it to the B4 is all well and good but not everybody likes the B4 ....

who wouldn't like the B4 then Rog?? :p

RogerM
19-02-2009, 01:05 PM
who wouldn't like the B4 then Rog?? :p


LOL ... you know I rate the B4 and XX4 as two of the worst cars I've ever driven, don't suit me at all.

Horses for courses.

Scouser
19-02-2009, 02:21 PM
I think it will be great seeing other cars on the track. I know the B4 and the Losi are always going to be favourites but there is room for more than two makes in the class. IMO having a varied grid comprising of lots of different brands makes for better more interesting racing. It's good to freshen things up with an infusion of new options and the success of X-Factory has proved that there are people looking for something different.:thumbsup:

mark christopher
19-02-2009, 02:56 PM
I think it will be great seeing other cars on the track. I know the B4 and the Losi are always going to be favourites but there is room for more than two makes in the class. IMO having a varied grid comprising of lots of different brands makes for better more interesting racing. It's good to freshen things up with an infusion of new options and the success of X-Factory has proved that there are people looking for something different.:thumbsup:
thats all fine but if the x6 did not work it would not be out there, simple as.................. this needs to work and be strong/reliable

Scouser
19-02-2009, 03:02 PM
Agree 100% dude, but the idea of a good car failing because people want the same as everyone else is something I don't agree with. If this turn out out be a good car and it fails because it is an Ansmann, I think it will be a great shame.:(

RogerM
19-02-2009, 04:11 PM
Agree 100% dude, but the idea of a good car failing because people want the same as everyone else is something I don't agree with. If this turn out out be a good car and it fails because it is an Ansmann, I think it will be a great shame.:(


I agree .....

I am still trying to figure out why there are so few RB5s out on track, can only assume that it's because most people want to run the "proven" car and only that. Shame.

I say good luck to them.

Welshy40
19-02-2009, 06:13 PM
Mmm I like it. One item that stands out from the B4. I like the wire holders for the motor wire on the rear shock tower, its front end however looks a bit strange but still looks interesting. I hope that the wishbones are stronger than the weak B4 ones, as I may buy one. Game on.

Jez
20-02-2009, 12:16 AM
spoke to shaun today,the car pictured is the x pro kit version,and as far as i can gather includes all bits shown.there will be a truck version also in kit form.rrp for both is £139.99.there will be an rtr version called the madrat [not sure what truck version is called,maybe madrat t?].amazing rrp of just £99.cant wait to get my hands on one.should have more info in 2 weeks.many thanks jez.

Tom3012
20-02-2009, 12:39 AM
spoke to shaun today,the car pictured is the x pro kit version,and as far as i can gather includes all bits shown.there will be a truck version also in kit form.rrp for both is £139.99.there will be an rtr version called the madrat [not sure what truck version is called,maybe madrat t?].amazing rrp of just £99.cant wait to get my hands on one.should have more info in 2 weeks.many thanks jez.


£99 for an rtr! thats a bargain! cant fault it for that! surely thats a good option for new comers? im tempted to get the truck in "pro" form, £140 is not bad at all! :thumbsup:

DaveG28
20-02-2009, 01:08 AM
An idea of likely UK release date Jez?

DCM
20-02-2009, 09:06 AM
An idea of likely UK release date Jez?
it is the end of MArch, release date. My only concern, with seeing other Ansmann kit, is fit and finish, if that is good.... then it got to be a good option, just got to get them on the track.

BugFreak
20-02-2009, 09:11 AM
it is the end of MArch, release date. My only concern, with seeing other Ansmann kit, is fit and finish, if that is good.... then it got to be a good option, just got to get them on the track.

Production-start is the first week of april..
(I've got this from Ansmann by the way...)

Jez
21-02-2009, 01:24 AM
it is the end of MArch, release date. My only concern, with seeing other Ansmann kit, is fit and finish, if that is good.... then it got to be a good option, just got to get them on the track.probably april.think i will give the pro buggy a try,seems a lot easier than stripping and cleaning my rb5.the truck version looks a good buy in either guise.be nice to know what rating speedo/motor is included in rtr.hopefully something that can handle a mild modified.i thought the e firestorm was good value at £150,but this is something else provided it can handle a bit of rough and tumble.hopefully have one for beginning of outdoor regionals.many thanks jez.

DaveG28
20-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Sooooo....anyone still thinking of running one of these when they come out, assuming that's soon??

Not heard a think for ages, but tempted to give one a run to see how it goes if anyone still planning to stock spares etc?

DCM
20-04-2009, 07:14 PM
I got mine on order, got told, end of the month, they will be in with Ansmann.

Mike Hudson
20-04-2009, 07:39 PM
looks just like a xxxcr with b4 gearbox fitted to me, will be good to see a couple of them on the track to see how they go :)

Jez
20-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Sooooo....anyone still thinking of running one of these when they come out, assuming that's soon??

Not heard a think for ages, but tempted to give one a run to see how it goes if anyone still planning to stock spares etc?last i heard put release back to june,shame really.still hope to get one in,but realistically any later than june will mean i still be running kyosho at regional.would be good to put through its paces outdoors.ta jez.

Scouser
20-04-2009, 09:42 PM
That's a shame, they are showing at Apex for £133 for the pro versions. I am sure the price would have tempted a few to try them out for the summer season.

DaveG28
28-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Any more word guys? Asnmann website I think is saying 3 or 4 days, and some place in Denmark is showing next week??

Will spares be difficult to get hold of, or is the importer ok? Guess that last is a question for Jez around how quickly he'll be able to sort bits!

DCM
28-04-2009, 10:56 PM
from what I understand, Ansmann(UK) are pretty good at supplying spares, as to how soon they will be in, I am not sure, but I can't see that they would take a shipment without spares too.

Jez
28-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Any more word guys? Asnmann website I think is saying 3 or 4 days, and some place in Denmark is showing next week??

Will spares be difficult to get hold of, or is the importer ok? Guess that last is a question for Jez around how quickly he'll be able to sort bits!not heard anything yet.they are usually pretty good with spares even though i dont buy much off them,but that could soon change.i would be more than happy to stock the usual consumables and take them aroubd ne and nw.id even take one to regionals for people to have a play with.thanks jez.

lochness42
20-05-2009, 09:23 PM
anything new about Madrat?

DaveG28
21-05-2009, 01:17 PM
Someone claims to have some on Ebay, not aware of any shops having them yet though?

DCM
21-05-2009, 01:31 PM
I keep getting different stories as to whether they are in the country or not, and if they are, why they aren't being sent out....

I just want to get playing.

DaveG28
21-05-2009, 01:43 PM
I keep getting different stories as to whether they are in the country or not, and if they are, why they aren't being sent out....

I just want to get playing.

If they are in the country what's the story for not sending out?

ryanlownie
21-05-2009, 03:37 PM
Just spoken to Ansmann, they have left the manufacturers in China and are on the way to Germany. Once there it's then over to the UK. End of June is looking like the release time.

And to clarify, RTR (Buggy & Truck) = £99.99, Kits = £49.99

DCM
21-05-2009, 05:44 PM
well, one explanation said they were in Germany, and on their way to the UK, the other was that they were in the UK, and two reasons why they haven't been sent out.

DaveG28
21-05-2009, 10:44 PM
well, one explanation said they were in Germany, and on their way to the UK, the other was that they were in the UK, and two reasons why they haven't been sent out.

Far too coy, but fair enough, probably not a good idea to spread a rumour on here if there is one, pm if you don't mind sharing privately though, am very tempted by the kit!!

Jez
28-05-2009, 09:10 PM
Far too coy, but fair enough, probably not a good idea to spread a rumour on here if there is one, pm if you don't mind sharing privately though, am very tempted by the kit!!sent pm yesterday,looks like only myself and ishy will be using one at york[blyth]regional.should have it for southport gp,un built though.need it painting asap.anybody do paint job and return in 5 days?nothing too tricky.thanks jez.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::wub:confused:

DCM
28-05-2009, 09:39 PM
are they in, on sale yet?

When would you need the shell for?

Jez
28-05-2009, 10:32 PM
[quote=DCM;247541]are they in, on sale yet?
sending pm:thumbsup:

Jamie.T
03-06-2009, 11:51 AM
The xt and xp pro have now docked at warehouse and are being sent out this week. Most shops with them on back order should start seeing them today.

Jamie (Ansmann racing uk)

Jez
03-06-2009, 10:10 PM
just starting building ready for southport gp.suprised to see no sticker sheet for advertising purposes.will post back tomorrow progress.tidy packaging.dig the green motor plate.ta jez.

Colinevan
03-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Just spoken to Ansmann, they have left the manufacturers in China and are on the way to Germany. Once there it's then over to the UK. End of June is looking like the release time.

And to clarify, RTR (Buggy & Truck) = £99.99, Kits = £49.99

Is that right £50 each for kits :thumbsup:

General Accident
04-06-2009, 06:10 AM
Which shops have these? I've looked at DMS, Modelsport and JE Spares websites and no one is listing them. The buggy looks interesting as a starter car to get a young 'un out onto the track.

Jamie.T
04-06-2009, 08:32 AM
I know fusion hobbies and Apex models have placed orders. Fusion hobbies are showing stock http://www.fusionhobbies.com/Ansmann-Racing-2WD-X-Pro-Buggy-Kit-p/ar122000009.htm

RRP is £139.99 for the x pro and xt pro (buggy and truck).

Jamie.......

DCM
04-06-2009, 09:03 AM
fusion have some I believe!

Jamie.T
04-06-2009, 09:05 AM
Did you get your x pro then Steve?

Jamie......

DCM
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
I got to get my card details to Jo yet... been busy!! but it is there.

Where are the spares though... ask Shaun if he can provide me a spares pack, or get him to call me, and I can advise him what to send out?

ryanlownie
04-06-2009, 10:44 AM
We have an X Pro and XT Pro in stock. Unfortunately they are not on the website yet but feel free to call if you do need one (can be with you for tomorrow).

Both are £131.99 each.

http://www.jespares.com/images/OopleBanner.gif (http://www.jespares.com/)

Darren Boyle
04-06-2009, 11:11 AM
Which shops have these? I've looked at DMS, Modelsport and JE Spares websites and no one is listing them. The buggy looks interesting as a starter car to get a young 'un out onto the track.

I cannot speak on behalf of the other shops you mention, but we wont be stocking the car for the time being at DMS. The car looks "OK" for the money but we already have the new "Stinger" buggy coming from CML very soon (looks really cool) for those who want an RTR/entry level 2wd for under £100 and for me the Ansmann is just too close in price to the Team spec B4 to justify its price tag when you can get a "proven" buggy for very little more..

Nick Goodall
04-06-2009, 03:18 PM
It's good to see another option out there though, anything that encourages people to switch to 1/10th off road in this current climate is a good thing :thumbsup:

2wd Electric seems to be one of the cheapest forms of racing to start-up in now, for the first time in a long while i think that will have a big influence on what many T/C racers decide to do as costs keep going up!

Spoolio
04-06-2009, 05:01 PM
£131.99? I know that is for the Pro version but that's quite a way adrift of £49.99 (which I'd assumed was for the non-Pro)innit.

ryanlownie
04-06-2009, 05:11 PM
The actual RRP is £139.99. The info I remember posting a week or two back was for the Madrat which is what I quoted on the phone to Ansmann and got priced up. The X Pro with that price seems like it could be a different car, and the Madrat is yet to be released?

Jamie.T
04-06-2009, 05:55 PM
The Madrat kit will be shipping early next week. This is the more basic version of the x-pro and retails at just £49.99.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x43/fgsuperstore/madrat.jpg

Jamie....

Si Coe
04-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Ok, so given the spec for the Madrat, what is on the Pro X to make it cost nearly 3x as much? Gold battery strap? Diamond Turnbuckles?

Joking aside, I guess its got dogbones not UJ's on the MadRat, non-turnbuckle links and plastic shocks, but I still struggle to see why the Pro X costs so much relative to the Madrat.

General Accident
04-06-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm 'avin one of them cheapo ones. It looks like a far better home for all the electrics out of my Tamiya Hornet :D.

Colinevan
04-06-2009, 07:38 PM
Just spoken to Ansmann, they have left the manufacturers in China and are on the way to Germany. Once there it's then over to the UK. End of June is looking like the release time.

And to clarify, RTR (Buggy & Truck) = £99.99, Kits = £49.99Which cars are the £50 ones then, is that a cheaper version etc.

Hmm ignore, for some reason my browser didnt show the great pics above ha ha.

DCM
04-06-2009, 07:43 PM
I cannot speak on behalf of the other shops you mention, but we wont be stocking the car for the time being at DMS. The car looks "OK" for the money but we already have the new "Stinger" buggy coming from CML very soon (looks really cool) for those who want an RTR/entry level 2wd for under £100 and for me the Ansmann is just too close in price to the Team spec B4 to justify its price tag when you can get a "proven" buggy for very little more..

That will be the Duratrax then.....

I think, as long as everything is good on the car, the price is good to, unproven or not. We seem to embrace lots of chassis in 4wd, lets embrace it in 2wd too!!

tjf
04-06-2009, 10:21 PM
I dont think it is the duratrax its advertised on page 86 of June RRCI

jimmy
04-06-2009, 10:25 PM
They don't even have a pic on the website?
Either way - this is about the Ansmann buggies so lets create another thread for this CML one and not distract from the efforts that the Ansmann UK guys have gone to get this buggy over here and hopefully expand interest in this class of racing (I for one am pretty bored with the lack of 2WD cars around)

DCM
04-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Mine will be with me on Monday, if I am lucky, I might get it on Saturday, but I doubt it, and that then stops the urge to build it on the weekend, and not take pics for here....

Jez
04-06-2009, 11:26 PM
just finished diff ,gearbox and shocks.the shocks are really sweet,go together well albeit no indiation of oil viscosity or spring rate.ae springs dont fit but kyosho springs do,so set up should be relatively easy[ish].screw quality is excellent,no binding of suspension arms.was hoping to run it at southport this sunday but forgot i have an 18th to go to friday night,however anyone wanting to check it out please feel free to come over on sunday at southport.and give us your thoughts.any comments will be relayed back to ansmann uk.many thanks jez.

DaveG28
05-06-2009, 09:27 AM
Keep us informed of progress, in two minds on this or CR2 now so would like to hear how it builds/goes!

P.S. Sorry I haven't replied to the PM yet!

jim76
05-06-2009, 09:47 AM
for £50 i think it looks great. Far better than a Tamiya Hornet etc. A youngster could actually race it at a club and it would probably handle half decent, and even includes a slipper. You wouldn't really need to upgrade much on it to improve apart from maybe shocks some time down the line.

If the £99 rtr is based on that kit then i can see it being very popular in these hard times.

good luck to them

Lee Martin
05-06-2009, 11:36 AM
That kits £50! fair play! i hope it gets alot more people into the sport!!! well done!

lochness42
05-06-2009, 12:20 PM
this kit looks great for price, I just wonder how much durable this car is.

Jamie.T
05-06-2009, 04:38 PM
Just to let you all know, there will be a truck kit version out late next week which also retails at £49.99

Will be in shops around the 19th June.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x43/fgsuperstore/macnum.jpg

Jamie...

DaveG28
05-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Ok, hang on, have these really been pics of the £50 buggy/truck?? Because I can't spot the difference between them and the pro x at £130???

What exactly are the differences?

lochness42
05-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Just to let you all know, there will be a truck kit version out late next week which also retails at £49.99

Will be in shops around the 19th June.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x43/fgsuperstore/macnum.jpg

Jamie...

Jamie correct your pics - you've got "Optional pats" there. :o

Spoolio
05-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Ok, hang on, have these really been pics of the £50 buggy/truck?? Because I can't spot the difference between them and the pro x at £130???

What exactly are the differences?

The most noticeable is that the Pro has threaded shocks, the pictured 50 quidder has plastic preload collars a la B4 Stealth. If you look real close it also has plain rod top arms, not turnbuckles. The Pro definately has CVD's so it's safe to assume the base model has doggy bones and I'm sure I've seen ballraced steering somewhere altho I may have dreamt that bit.

Other than that I'm as stumped as everyone else on why the Pro X is priced well into "Run at one indoor meeting, mint condition" B4 territory, yet the base version is as cheap as a set of tyres for an SC10. Perhaps the gearbag insides are made of cheese?

Spoolio
05-06-2009, 08:19 PM
Just to let you all know, there will be a truck kit version out late next week which also retails at £49.99

Will be in shops around the 19th June.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x43/fgsuperstore/macnum.jpg

Jamie...

Is that Macnum as in Macnum PI? Also, I noticed the optional Pats as well, are there any plans for optional Deidres, Sandras or Barbaras too?

Jamie.T
05-06-2009, 09:42 PM
I can assure you that the pics ive posted are of the basic kits (mad rat and macnum),of this i am sure as i work for Ansmann.

Both the kits ive showed you have the rrp price printed on the bottom but i have edited this out as it also shows the trade price. Both cars shown here will retail for £49.99

As stated above, the main difference is the turnbuckles, dogbones rather than cvd's and shocks. The gearbox and its casing is of the same quality in both the basic version and pro.

The mad rat and macnum are indeed better value than the pro version as it gives you the chance to "upgrade" any parts you feel necessary.

Hope this clears things up

Jamie......

tjf
05-06-2009, 10:10 PM
When can we get one?

Jamie.T
05-06-2009, 10:14 PM
The x-pro is availbale at all Ansmann stockists now, the mad rat will be available as of monday/tuesday and the macnum will be available as of the following monday/tuesday.

Jamie.....

DaveG28
05-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the info Jamie, looks like a great deal for £50!

budgio
05-06-2009, 11:39 PM
So i was only 1p off when i started this thread :D
Hats off to Ansmann i say.
Always nice to see a new 2wd on the market.I think i,ll invest :)

budgio
06-06-2009, 12:17 AM
When can we get one?
cheapest i can find

http://www.modelsinmotion.co.uk/product.asp?productid=30098&catCode=719&tamiya=268

hope the links ok :rolleyes:

JBL
06-06-2009, 07:36 AM
I'm very tempted to buy the basic version. The shocks I would change over from my XXXCR and I would probably buy some CVD's.

Great price for a sub £50.00 model, well done Ansmann I say.:thumbsup:

Models like this will bring more interest into our hobby (our way of life).

bigred5765
06-06-2009, 12:24 PM
this can only be good for this hobby, and lets hope encourages more people into it,hats of to ansman.

P_B
06-06-2009, 12:35 PM
Let's hope the spares backup is a) there b) sensibly priced and c) not needed much due to decent design and materials. If so, this can only be a winner for newcomers and club racers.

Quite tempted to plop £50 on one myself :D

sosidge
07-06-2009, 04:03 PM
Are clear shells for the Mad Rat available in the UK yet? How about other spares?

Quite tempted to have a punt on one of these as a cheap club car, but I'm allergic to RTR colours!

budgio
07-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Any idea if the 50 quid version comes pre built ?

jasonrcb
07-06-2009, 05:15 PM
From what i gather the madrat comes pre built and painted nick, still be fun though still tempted on the xpro version and the madrat for spares

sosidge
07-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Another Q...

Does the basic kit have pre-glued tyres or would I need to get a set of wheels too?

bert digler
07-06-2009, 07:31 PM
Another Q...

Does the basic kit have pre-glued tyres or would I need to get a set of wheels too?

are there any spares available yet

jasonrcb
07-06-2009, 07:37 PM
not sure about spares as yet but looking at it the rb5 front and rear wheels will fit same hexes

possibly the rb5 parts may fit as thats what he car seems to be based on

bert digler
07-06-2009, 07:40 PM
not sure about spares as yet but looking at it the rb5 front and rear wheels will fit same hexes

possibly the rb5 parts may fit as thats what he car seems to be based on

it looks more like an rb5 clone if so should be good just asking on spares as i have a set of b4 shocks may just need a set of cvds hopefully pennys from ansmann:thumbsup:

jasonrcb
07-06-2009, 07:55 PM
with the kit price spares should be pennies and looks like it could be a bit of fun at that price :thumbsup:

njc11
07-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Had a look at this car today...(Jez @ Modeltorque) but the pro version with nice looking shocks and Ti looking turnbuckles, defo RB5 front B4 Rear... looks very good value for money.... Just hope it will have a good spares back up! :thumbsup:

Jamie.T
07-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Spares backup is already in place, and are also very cheap too.

Will post spares list with rrp prices tommorrow once i get sent them.

Jamie@Ansmann.....

dave g
07-06-2009, 10:26 PM
at 50 notes,just buy another car for spares.

Si Coe
07-06-2009, 10:38 PM
I was talking about this today after looking over that Pro X (a very tidy looking car too), and I reckon Ansmann need to do one more thing to really upset the apple cart and seriously open up 10th offroad to newcomers. That is to offer another version of the RTR Madrat, this time with a brushless system (I suggest a copy of the 9t 35A Ezrun as this is fast, simple, robust and very cheap) in a whole package for not much over £150. Or more specifically a club level competitive car available RTR for less than a B4FT kit costs.
Do that and you are looking at the next Topcat/Cougar - Old timers will remember the days when Schumacher cars dominated 2wd not because they were better than the American Rc10s or Jrx's (they weren't) but because they were half the price!

DCM
07-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Well, mine should be here tomorrow, and all going well, I will be taking lots of pics and posting it up on a build thread, and I will be honest too!!

Jez
07-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Well, mine should be here tomorrow, and all going well, I will be taking lots of pics and posting it up on a build thread, and I will be honest too!!got mine finished at 1am sunday morning,didnt have time to put radio in as was up at 5am getting ready for southport.youll need la218 to elminate binding of front wheel bearings,any idea what shock oil/spring rate is in kit?thanks jez

stox217
08-06-2009, 08:52 PM
will hopefully be getting the basic version the £50 job
Anybody else had one yet?

budgio
09-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Just received mine will put some pics up later.
The kit does not come prebuilt which is good :D but is not fully ballraced as advertised.:(
Shocks are prebuilt and black(not green)plastic, just like the standard tamiya kit shocks
But it DOES include cvd,s which look to be of decent quality.
Includes tyres too

budgio
09-06-2009, 06:27 PM
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Spoolio
09-06-2009, 06:30 PM
youll need la218 to elminate binding of front wheel bearings

Whats an la218? Is it a part in the kit that's not mentioned in the manual? Also, will regular Tamiya bearings fit the hubs?

GRIFF55
09-06-2009, 06:37 PM
for 50 notes, thats amazing!!! I even like the shell. tempting for club as i have some spare ae shocks:D How much would the bearing set cost?????

TRIOXER
09-06-2009, 06:55 PM
La 218 is a kyosho part number for the wheel hexes as he found with the kit ones,when the wheel was in place and the wheel nut was tightened it would not spin freely as it was binding on the bearing.

DCM
09-06-2009, 06:56 PM
for 50 notes, thats amazing!!! I even like the shell. tempting for club as i have some spare ae shocks:D How much would the bearing set cost?????

search for walawala on ebay, dirt cheap!!

stox217
09-06-2009, 07:15 PM
so il be after a bearing set too
do you know if the b4 wheel's fit on the front because they are ball raced?

JJ The Boat Wizzard
09-06-2009, 07:16 PM
so il be after a bearing set too
do you know if the b4 wheel's fit on the front because they are ball raced?

I thought it was hex's all round?? if thats true a b4 wheel will NOT fit ;)

stox217
09-06-2009, 07:19 PM
I thought it was hex's all round?? if thats true a b4 wheel will NOT fit ;)
I ment when you take the hex off then put the b4 front's on? ;)

JJ The Boat Wizzard
09-06-2009, 07:29 PM
I ment when you take the hex off then put the b4 front's on? ;)

No as the pin is there and when you take that out the wheel will go that far on that you wont be able to tighten the nut far enough down for it to grab the wheel if you know what i mean (I THINK!) , the short answer is someone try it , but your better off using kyosho wheels or ansmann :thumbsup:

budgio
09-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Be careful opening the plastic bags as the diff balls dont come in a sealed bag..... i,m one missing on my diff build :( hey ho cant complain.
upto now i,m dead impressed and for £47.99 its a no brainer :thumbsup:

DCM
09-06-2009, 08:11 PM
you can't use B4 front wheels, although whether you could transplant the steering arm off a B4 in to the Pro-X caster blocks??

I just been whizzing mine about, outside, woop

budgio
09-06-2009, 08:51 PM
Any tips on how to find three 2.37MM diff balls :( ??
Could be anywhere ....probably China

bert digler
09-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Any tips on how to find three 2.37MM diff balls :( ??
Could be anywhere ....probably China

schuey 2.5 any good

budgio
09-06-2009, 09:13 PM
I may well have to try schuey balls (eek sounds ghey)
Cant find them anywhere :(

DCM
09-06-2009, 09:13 PM
I would think that they are an imperial size, but being a European brand, they are a metric measurement, think 3/32 would fit, which is 2.38mm

JBL
09-06-2009, 09:16 PM
The stock madrat looks a good piece of kit. You would only need some bearings for it and half decent shocks. For the money a great starter kit for somebody entering the sport. Are the bearings metric or imperial?

Perhaps Ansmann could sponsor its own championship in the future using there own models? Tamiya used to do this around the Cambridgeshire border areas in the late 80's (I am that old!). It was organised by the late Orton Models in Peterborough.

budgio
09-06-2009, 09:38 PM
I think the bearings must have been withdrawn from the kit at the last minute (to keep price low)
in my build manual it says i should have them but they are brass
the sizes are:

5x8x2.5 2 of
10x15x4 2 of
5x10x4 12 of

The steering is ballraced though

DCM
09-06-2009, 09:40 PM
diff balls for you

http://www.rc-direct.co.uk/kyosho-3-32-balls-p-2159.html

budgio
09-06-2009, 09:40 PM
nice one

stox217
10-06-2009, 01:35 PM
A Question for jamie (Ansmann)
When will there be a ballraced upgrade for the madrat?

JJ The Boat Wizzard
10-06-2009, 01:41 PM
Most shops stock cheap 'good' bearings anyway for like a quid 'ish' each so just do that insted of waiting for a upgrade set :D

RichB
10-06-2009, 01:43 PM
Most shops stock cheap 'good' bearings anyway for like a quid 'ish' each so just do that insted of waiting for a upgrade set :D

...or somewhere like http://www.rcbearings.co.uk/, they are even listing kits for Ansmann cars as well

Jamie.T
10-06-2009, 02:08 PM
You could also buy the x-pro bearing set as an upgrade for the mad rat.

Or option 2 is just buy some bearings from your local model shop.

Sizes needed are:

5x8x2.5mm
10x15x4mm
5x10x4mm
3x6x2.5mm

Jamie....

mdb_75
10-06-2009, 04:21 PM
I'm thinking or getting a mad rat as at the price they seem great value!

Can someone that's got one please measure the extended length of the shock absorbers? I ask as Ansmann do alloy shocks for around £9.50 a pair that come in 55, 75, 85 and 95mm lengths.

Ta!

Spoolio
10-06-2009, 08:27 PM
You could also buy the x-pro bearing set as an upgrade for the mad rat.

How much?

Or option 2 is just buy some bearings from your local model shop.

Sizes needed are:

5x8x2.5mm
10x15x4mm
5x10x4mm
3x6x2.5mm

Jamie....

How many of each are required?

Cheers

RogerM
11-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Any tips on how to find three 2.37MM diff balls :( ??
Could be anywhere ....probably China

That will be 3/32", should be easy enough to find

mdb_75
11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
Well I've gone and ordered two Madrats, one to run and one for spares :lol:

Got the bearings coming from Rc Bearings too :D

stox217
11-06-2009, 07:44 PM
mine's on the way :thumbsup:

DCM
11-06-2009, 08:01 PM
those who got the madrat, are the wishbones and chassis made out of stiff plastic?

stox217
11-06-2009, 08:23 PM
il tell you when its arrived or unless some one beat's me to it

bigred5765
11-06-2009, 08:56 PM
One madrat shell, a la jez,

Jez
11-06-2009, 09:05 PM
One madrat shell, a la jez,holy smoke carl,i aint aint gunna lose that at end of straight pile up!!!!!i just hope it looks even better in the flesh.you done wing as well???ive gone all giddy.cant wait to spank it round rhr on sunday.will hopefully have spare car tomorrow,but just in case is anyone taking one with them???many thanks jez.:wub

Garry Driffill
11-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Jez, Can i get a kit through you mate?

stox217
11-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Another question is there an undertray for the madrat?

Jez
11-06-2009, 09:48 PM
Jez, Can i get a kit through you mate?erm sure sure can mate,you ay rhr this weekend?come check the pimpiness of my ride.will do you a cracking deal if you buy both cars[i pro plus madrat for spares].many thanks jez.

Chrislong
11-06-2009, 10:09 PM
Another question is there an undertray for the madrat?

Why would you need an undertray? It has a moulded chassis

DCM
11-06-2009, 10:09 PM
Another question is there an undertray for the madrat?

no, plastic tub chassis, no need

stox217
11-06-2009, 10:14 PM
okay cheer's
(as you can tell im basic new to this offroad stuff :p)
But not new to rc racing

Chrislong
11-06-2009, 10:25 PM
Ah cool, was it this particular car which tempted you? hopefully it is what the class need, make it easier/cheaper for anyone already half tempted :thumbsup:

The bodyshell will fit up against the moulded chassis, and is likely to fit via body clips, but its easy to add velcro to seal it from dirt/wet.

stox217
12-06-2009, 06:35 AM
im not new new as i already got my self a cat200 with a boat load of spare's i have already raced and enjoyed it but it now need's more speed
but that will come later on i think :D
I chose the car because of its price tag and mainley sounds like its going to be a hit later on :thumbsup:

Garry Driffill
12-06-2009, 07:04 AM
sure can mate,you ay rhr this weekend?come check the pimpiness of my ride.will do you a cracking deal if you buy both cars[i pro plus madrat for spares].many thanks jez.

Im at work mate so i cant make it :mad:, Super shite eh!

I'll be in touch shortly Jez :D

qatmix
12-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Do you think it will be easy to strip the paint of the shell? Its a shame its painted as if a few people at the club want one they will all look the same, otherwise you really will need to pay another £20 ish to get a plain shell. Which puts the price of the kit (with bearings) up to around £80

Jamie.T
12-06-2009, 09:24 PM
The shells arent painted, but rather tinted before its moulded. There is no way of stripping the paint off the shell.

Will have to get a x-pro shell for £19.99.

qatmix
12-06-2009, 09:56 PM
cheers... looks like stickers might be the way to go :)

c0sie
13-06-2009, 02:07 PM
Anyone have any experience of one of these MadRats?

Im quite interested in getting one for the missus, but id be uber miffed if someone told me they were ace when in fact they were rubbish?

Jamie.T
13-06-2009, 04:53 PM
Both myself and Martin now run them Cris. Their awesome quality and for £50 you just cant go wrong.

Give me a shout Chris and ill sort you out with one if you want dude. The shop i work at also now have ALL the spares in stock too.

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 04:55 PM
I've just finished having a few runs around the garden with mine now :thumbsup:

The last car I built was a Bosscat back in 1995 so I haven't got much to compare the build to.

They're pretty good buggys for the money. There's a few things that aren't brilliant, mainly the front wheel fitment. You can't do them up tight otherwise they won't spin freely, so they wobble a bit. Also I've had trouble getting the slipper clutch to slip! Even at the slackest setting the diff slips before the slipper. I had to file a couple of mm or so off the outer slipper hub (where the spring presses against) to slacken the tension off it to get it to slip easier.

A couple of the hub mouldings don't hold the bearings too tightly either, they're not really loose, but some of the bearings will fall out where as others are a nice fit.

Other than these things it's great. It drives nicely out of the box (although I've fitted 4wd minispikes all round and fitted ballraces) with plenty of steering.

I'd say they're a great car for beginners and club racers alike.

Who decided to fit the front body clip that way around though?!!! :lol:

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 05:10 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/mdb_75/DSC00165.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/mdb_75/DSC00166.jpg

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 05:16 PM
those who got the madrat, are the wishbones and chassis made out of stiff plastic?

Yes mate, part numbers:

Front arms 125000499
Rear arms 125000500
Chassis 125000409



Are everyone elses slipper hubs both identical or slightly different to each other?

colmo
13-06-2009, 06:05 PM
They're pretty good buggys for the money. There's a few things that aren't brilliant, mainly the front wheel fitment. You can't do them up tight otherwise they won't spin freely, so they wobble a bit.

I've come across this issue with other cars - my solution was to file/sand down the side the pins fit in to, so the hexes don't bind when tightened, as the pin does not nestle so deeply in the hex anymore. I presume the hexes are plastic?

jimmy
13-06-2009, 06:12 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/mdb_75/DSC00165.jpghttp://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/mdb_75/DSC00166.jpg


Looks AWESOME for the cash! Chris is on his way to my house with mine right now. :thumbsup: I wish I'd printed my ansmann stickers already :lol:

qatmix
13-06-2009, 07:00 PM
looks great!

In the pictures they have green aluminium tops etc on the shocks. (like the other ansmann budget range) Are they black aluminium or just plastic? its a bit naughty to have aluminium ones on the box but not inside isnt it?

°°.°°sicotange°°.°°
13-06-2009, 07:05 PM
I think you confuse the standard Ansmann Madrat with the competition Ansmann pro-x. Only the pro-x comes with the lovely green parts:wub

jim76
13-06-2009, 07:43 PM
no, if you look on page 5 of this thread at the pictures, it definitely has green tops and shock bottoms.

colmo
13-06-2009, 07:44 PM
I think you confuse the standard Ansmann Madrat with the competition Ansmann pro-x. Only the pro-x comes with the lovely green parts:wub

No, he's right - look here: http://www.ansmann.de/cms/racingroot/rc-cars/electric-off-road-110/mad-rat.html

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Yes they're just all black plastic on mine, on the outside of the box it shows the black/green ones and it says they're aluminium.

Not really on is it!

Spoolio
13-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Bit like the non-existant ballraces then, but hell, its £47.99 so lets not get too picky. At that money it's build, break, bin, buy another one without feeling guilty:thumbsup:

bert digler
13-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Bit like the non-existant ballraces then, but hell, its £47.99 so lets not get too picky. At that money it's build, break, bin, buy another one without feeling guilty:thumbsup:

has anyone put it on a track :confused:

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Bit like the non-existant ballraces then, but hell, its £47.99 so lets not get too picky. At that money it's build, break, bin, buy another one without feeling guilty:thumbsup:

That's it. I can't really see how they can make them, get them over here and still make any money on them, my two kits @ £47.97 each were delivered free as well. It just goes to show how much money's made on the higher end models, which at the end of the day can't cost that much more to produce.

°°.°°sicotange°°.°°
13-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Oops, now I'm confused. I guess I was wrong. Sorry guys. It sure is wrong to advertise the product with nice green aluminium parts and delivering the kit with platic ones :mad: Still a bargain though ;-)

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 08:01 PM
has anyone put it on a track :confused:

I will be on Tuesday as long as there's no rain!

budgio
13-06-2009, 08:01 PM
I think maybe the green tops and bottoms will be included on the RTR version but i havent seen one yet.
It would be interesting to see what speedo and radio gear come with the RTR too

jimmy
13-06-2009, 08:02 PM
You can see from the photo that where it says Alloy shocks, it shows some plastic dampers - a mistake. The alloy trim on the plastic shocks I assume was a change before release - they look good, so it's a shame they aren't included, but since they offer nothing but looks I'm not personally too fussed.
They should have included a line - contents may differ, or something.

Team associated did it with the original RC10 - Tamiya did it with the TRF 501X. They photograph the prototype and don't update it when the final car makes production with changes.

Spoolio
13-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Don't suppose anybody going up/down to Blyth on Sunday will have a spare Madrat kit they want to swap for £50? Mine has still not arrived and I want to build it for Wednesday :thumbdown:

qatmix
13-06-2009, 08:56 PM
Just took a look on the 'interweb' and Ansmann have sent out replacement shocks to those who complained in Germany.

mdb_75
13-06-2009, 09:34 PM
There's a thread on here about the Magnum truck where
scaramanga22 complained about getting the wrong shocks and got replacements.

bert digler
13-06-2009, 09:48 PM
There's a thread on here about the Magnum truck where
scaramanga22 complained about getting the wrong shocks and got replacements.

what about the bearings:lol:

mdb_75
14-06-2009, 08:38 AM
The instruction manual has the bearings down as 'oil ball bearings' and the detailed diagrams have them drawn like plain bushes. I think they meant 'oil bearings' rather than 'oil ball bearings' which is what they've supplied. Lost in translation.

Where was it stated that they came fully ballraced? I've searched, but can't find it.

madwestmo
14-06-2009, 08:39 AM
i got my car the other day and built it up , now i know u get a 80/21 gearing with the car but i have fitted a 27t brushed stock motor , anyone know what i should change on the gearing ?

budgio
14-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Thought i,d add some TRF shocks and a PROLINE VORTEX RB-5 shell.
Yet to test as i,m awaiting bearings.Will be using it indoors at the PDA soon:D

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/budgio/DSC_0123.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/budgio/DSC_0121.jpg

qatmix
14-06-2009, 05:22 PM
Wow that looks great!

mdb_75
14-06-2009, 05:56 PM
That does look good!

How much are those shocks or are they some that you had lying around?

budgio
14-06-2009, 06:04 PM
They are the TRF Aeration shocks that i used to use on my old Durga.
Just dug out my white spring set so i,ll pop them on later
http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_175&products_id=3319

They seem to be ok although ive only whizzed it up and down the road so not really tested yet.The shell fits pretty good too.

DCM
14-06-2009, 06:10 PM
is your gearbox noisy? I run mine arouns, and it was a little noisy.... handled well on the kit Pro shocks, need pistons though.

budgio
14-06-2009, 06:31 PM
To be honest it did seem a little noisy at first. I have just put a couple of packs through it with an 8.5 brushless and it seems to be ok.

DCM
14-06-2009, 06:46 PM
mine is still a little noisey, finding the slipper a little fiddly to adjust, think the nut needs to be worn out a little on an axle, free it up a little.

mdb_75
14-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Are your inner and outer slipper hubs the same? The manual gives them different part numbers, but I think it's a typo.

mr. ed
14-06-2009, 11:00 PM
Are the chassis between the buggy and truck the same?
What is the wheelbase for each?

madwestmo
16-06-2009, 07:33 PM
anyone else having problems with the gearbox and the engine mount plate (green bit) when building it says to put thread lock on to hold it on , the long screws you use barely go into the hole and all thats holding them is the thread lock , after racing my mad rat sunday it is now loose , anyone have this problem or got a way to solve it ??

stox217
16-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Don't know about that yet as gearbox = last thing to do :p
once i get a ball bearing set soon

DCM
16-06-2009, 08:48 PM
if you put the screws in through the gearbox, then put a drop of threadlock on the end, then put the plate on, should be fine, to be honest, all 2wd gearboxes are the same.

mr. ed
16-06-2009, 09:08 PM
The moterplate of an ulitma (original one) is held on in the same way. I have raced and built several of them for many years and never even had to use thread-lock to hold the plate in place. Just a bit of torque is all you need.

Coming to think of it, the screws always had bit f friction with the hole in the case and this probably helped in stopping the screw from unscrewing itself also. If you put the screw in the case without tapping into the motoerplate, can it fall out freely? Ifso: try covering part of the thread with teflon tape: the type used to seal tubes at the connections.

Colinevan
16-06-2009, 09:48 PM
anyone else having problems with the gearbox and the engine mount plate (green bit) when building it says to put thread lock on to hold it on , the long screws you use barely go into the hole and all thats holding them is the thread lock , after racing my mad rat sunday it is now loose , anyone have this problem or got a way to solve it ??

U have a pm...:D

Jez
16-06-2009, 10:40 PM
Im at work mate so i cant make it :mad:, Super shite eh!

I'll be in touch shortly Jez :Dran at rhr on sunday,apart from popping a ball joint,couldnt break a thing.very impressed for a buggy of this price.had plenty tumbles,got landed on many times and still kept going.i tried to keep car as close to stock as possible but by round 3 only5changes were done.kyosho hub on front axle,kyosho silver rear/orange front springs,25wt in rear and 32.5wt in front shocks.kept standard shock cos theres no need to change em.letrs see how it goes at eden park this weekend with a better driver at the sticks.many thanks jez.

stox217
17-06-2009, 05:29 PM
just gave my one a go and its quick
so far i have changed the shock's to assosiated b4 threaded with kit spring's

its running nimh 4600's and an ezrun 13t brushless system.

Next will be a full ball bearing set and it wil be ready to hit the track :lol:

qatmix
17-06-2009, 07:48 PM
I have to build mine yet, but I intend to try racing it this year with a budget of £50 to cover spares / hop-ups. So £100 all in to race for a season.

It will be interesting to see how competitive it will be :)

stox217
17-06-2009, 07:59 PM
ball bearing's all round are needed
good look with your adventure :D mine will do summer racing at hinckley's out door track then become a shelf queen untill the next summer :P

madwestmo
17-06-2009, 08:02 PM
the basic shocks are quite poor , i raced it sunday and the shock cap popped off 3 times due to them being plastic threaded , so i super glued em on :)

the transmission also seems to not run so smoothly and its making my motor hot , maybe due to no ball bearings in the car ?? or maybe my gearing ?? ive ran the 21t stock pinion and a 23/29/34 all making the motor quite hot , what have you guys ran ?

also can someone point me in the direction of some wheels and tyres for the mad rat , running on astroturf/tarmac , mainly astroturf

thanks chaps !

stox217
17-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Id advise you go for the b4 threaded one's as i have them all round on mine.
Ball bearing's are a must! alan041049@ntlworld.com £8.50 its worth it as i just melted my gear box with a 13turn (brushless) running brushing's so i have a set on the way :lol:

DCM
17-06-2009, 08:15 PM
there is nothing wrong with the Ansmann green threaded ones, to be honest, and probably cheaper, hopefully have some pistons coming out soon for them.

No bearings will get the motor warm though.

madwestmo
17-06-2009, 08:31 PM
im after the shocks that come with the x-pro but cant find them to buy anywhere

any info on the wheels/tyres ?

oh and im going to get some bearings from walawala on ebay :)

Jamie.T
17-06-2009, 08:32 PM
X-pro spares will be availabale in the uk in approx 2 weeks. The green threaded shocks will be priced at £26.99 a pair.

madwestmo
17-06-2009, 08:37 PM
so a set will cost me more than my whole kit did :) mind you the plastics ones aint much for jumping/racing

how about the proper turnbuckles off the x-pro ? how much will they be ?

thanks

Jamie.T
17-06-2009, 08:43 PM
X-pro turnbuckle set will retail at:

Steering turnbuckle £3.99
Front upper arm turnbuckle £2.99
Rear upper arm turnbuckle £2.99

stox217
17-06-2009, 09:10 PM
im after the shocks that come with the x-pro but cant find them to buy anywhere

any info on the wheels/tyres ?

oh and im going to get some bearings from walawala on ebay :)
well the kit tyre's was fine for what set up i had but everybody would say yellow pin's front & rear and balistic buggy green's in the wet

stox217
17-06-2009, 09:11 PM
so a set will cost me more than my whole kit did :) mind you the plastics ones aint much for jumping/racing

how about the proper turnbuckles off the x-pro ? how much will they be ?

thanks
Might as well wait for second hand b4 shock's to come up for sale as i got some for £30 for the full 4 with spring's & oil
so just wait it out and hope some come up.

stox217
17-06-2009, 09:12 PM
X-pro turnbuckle set will retail at:

Steering turnbuckle £3.99
Front upper arm turnbuckle £2.99
Rear upper arm turnbuckle £2.99
pair or single?

Jez
17-06-2009, 09:18 PM
im after the shocks that come with the x-pro but cant find them to buy anywhere

any info on the wheels/tyres ?

oh and im going to get some bearings from walawala on ebay :)it may be worth seeing if anybody would split a pro kit so you could buy the shocks at maybe a little undeer retail?about £40 a set sounds reasonable,then someone else could buy berarings and so on.just a thought.they are good shocks.ta jez.

Jamie.T
17-06-2009, 09:19 PM
All prices are pairs

stox217
17-06-2009, 09:23 PM
All prices are pairs
very good price may invest in the future :lol:

Spoolio
17-06-2009, 10:04 PM
I have to build mine yet, but I intend to try racing it this year with a budget of £50 to cover spares / hop-ups. So £100 all in to race for a season.

It will be interesting to see how competitive it will be :)

This is my plan too. So far £47.99 for the kit (real cost £2.99 after I sold off one of my very old cars), £8.50 for bearings and £14 for a set of mini spike tyres so that's £70.49 so far. Everything else, speedo, servo, receiver, battery will either be cannibalised from my spares box or begged, borrowed or salvaged from skips :lol:. I remember when I started I had a B4 with a crappy 27T motor but seemed to enjoy it more. It all got a bit too serious at the end of last year and stopped being fun so the plan is to start having a laugh again.

Spoolio
18-06-2009, 10:02 PM
Hmmm, suppose I should expect it for under £50 (glad I bought a 'rat and not the X-Pro) but these are the things I've come across so far:

1. Two of the steering post bearings were very tight on the posts and wouldn't seat properly without some fettling.

2. One of the M3x8 screws at the front of the top plate has stripped out before the screw even got anywhere near tight so I now need a new front bulkhead (the bit with the balljoints on).

3. The top plate itself wouldn't sit right. In the end after fiddling with the steering post bearings umpteen times I've just accepted that it is a "stressed" item now its been forced into place with the mounting screws which is probably not a good thing long term. I expect it'll pull out at some point probably after a hard front end landing forces the shock tower up.

Other than that one of the bloody e-clips made a successful bid for freedom. I hate e-clips and have my fingers crossed that there is a spare one in the pack.

Battle_axe
18-06-2009, 10:52 PM
i have just ordered a madrat of modles in motion and after its bult it will be coming to prolines new track in bicester i will then see if it can survive my driving :P

one last thing is there a motor with it? if so whats it like?

budgio
18-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Yep comes with a motor, just like a standard tamiya motor
Welcome to the forums matey.
I,ll be seeing you at the track then ;)

Battle_axe
19-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Yep comes with a motor, just like a standard tamiya motor
Welcome to the forums matey.
I,ll be seeing you at the track then ;)

you may have seen me last this week i was the one who had the baja champ parked on its roof all night the foward battery and that tabletop dont mix at all

Bazzokajoe
20-06-2009, 09:36 PM
anyone wanna see something apsolutely awesome?

pro version for £78 anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Team-C-Racing-TC02-2WD-Electric-Buggy_W0QQitemZ350214215279QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadi o_Control_Vehicles?hash=item518a64d66f&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301%3A1|293%3A8|294%3A30

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Team-C-Racing-TC02T-2WD-Electric-Truck_W0QQitemZ350214215504QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadi o_Control_Vehicles?hash=item518a64d750&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301%3A1|293%3A8|294%3A30

Jamie.T
20-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Has anybody actually bought one from Dinball as there IS a contract in place that prevents them being availalbe to the uk?

Also it doesnt look like the pro, more like a mad rat with slightly upgraded shocks. The pro cars come with clear bodyshells and not pre-painted.

So in fact, its about £25 more than the Ansmann version......

Bazzokajoe
20-06-2009, 09:48 PM
At that price i intend to soon... they have the "ansmann" brushless 1/8's in aswell... for less than £200

4_cell_racer
20-06-2009, 09:58 PM
Has anybody actually bought one from Dinball as there IS a contract in place that prevents them being availalbe to the uk?

Also it doesnt look like the pro, more like a mad rat with slightly upgraded shocks. The pro cars come with clear bodyshells and not pre-painted.

So in fact, its about £25 more than the Ansmann version......

If you read the full auction it says "Come with Clean Lexan Body " I think they may well mean CLEAR not Clean :p

Also to me that does look like a PRO version just with out the green tinge that Ansmann like :lol:

Does the UK pro version come with tyres? if not then the one @ Dinball is a pro!

Shall I, shall I not :drool:

Jamie.T
20-06-2009, 10:03 PM
Let me know if anybody is able to purchase one and have it deliverd to a Uk address. This would then be outside Ansmann's contract and proceedings will be adheared to.

jameswilkinson7
20-06-2009, 10:17 PM
in the pictures its got turn buckles... Like the pro.

Si Coe
20-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Is there anything you can do about it Jamie? After all the shop is in Hong Kong, so he's not actually importing them into the UK. He is simply selling over the internet to a customer that happens to be in a different country. Which, whilst irritating for you, is not against the rules.......

DCM
20-06-2009, 11:24 PM
well, there is ways and means. If Ansmann has entered into a contract, to exclusively sell the car in the european market, and it is contrctual, they will have leaverage.

mdb_75
21-06-2009, 07:52 AM
There will probably be vat and import duty to be added onto the price of those in Hong Kong!

mr. ed
21-06-2009, 08:30 AM
It also has ball bearings, bringing it closer to the X-pro than the madrat one more step. But there is no mention of the graphite reinforced parts that replace the madrats standard plastic on the X-pro

Bazzokajoe
21-06-2009, 08:55 AM
im pretty sure it says fibre reinfroced plastic :P

it is exactly the x-pro...

mr. ed
21-06-2009, 09:34 AM
im pretty sure it says fibre reinfroced plastic :P

it is exactly the x-pro...

:blush: indeed
But it does not say graphite or carbon fiber, might just be glass fiber.
Does the mad rat have glass fiber reinforced plastic?

Jamie.T
21-06-2009, 03:09 PM
The x-pro and xt-pro have graphite in the plastics.

mr. ed
21-06-2009, 03:23 PM
The x-pro and xt-pro have graphite in the plastics.

I understood that, I was just wondering wheither the madrat has glass-fiber reinforced plastics, or no reinforcement at all

Jamie.T
21-06-2009, 03:27 PM
Just incase i didnt make it clear. The x and xt-pro have graphite in the plastic as the mad rat and macnum dont. This is the main differecne between the 2.

Hope that was clearer ;) LOL

stox217
21-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Also the shock's are threaded on the pro x and the madrat has basic plastic shock's

mr. ed
21-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Just incase i didnt make it clear. The x and xt-pro have graphite in the plastic as the mad rat and macnum dont. This is the main differecne between the 2.

Hope that was clearer ;) LOL

err, I asked if the madrat uses GLASS fiber in the plastics: like most of the old kyosho cars had

Jamie.T
21-06-2009, 03:37 PM
NO, its just plain boring old black plastic. No glass fibre, no carbon and no graphite. Just plastic.

If they started getting all posh with the plastic then the price would also rise. And at £50 can you really see that????