List Of B44 Parts That Fit BJ4

[JJ The Boat Wizzard]

Hi All

Im After a List Of Parts for the B44 That Will Fit The BJ4 With Little Or No Modifications So I Know What Parts To Get To Take Racin With Me
PLEASE HELP! , Lets Start With Wishbones (Suspension Arms) as ive broken 1 on my Bj4 Will The B44 Ones Fit?

Many Thanks
John

[jordan1]

yes b44 wishbones fit te bj4 with slight amount of dremmle work. i percenly changed to tamiya 501 front wishbones because alot stronger
jordan

[Mike Hudson]

All the shocks parts are direct fit, diffs and diff gears/pinions are the same, B44 front and rear driveshafts fit, rear wishbones are identicle, front wishbones do fit but the inner part of the wishbone where it fits onto the front bulkhead needs to be cut down abit to fit, fronts hubs and castor blocks fit, most bearings are the same and thats about it i think.

[Richard Lowe]

Almost Mike, the rear shocks are the same, the B44 fronts have longer shafts - BJ4 shafts are from the B4. Rear wishbones need a little material taking away same as the fronts to clear the bottom of the gearbox case, unless you do as I do and remove a tiny bit from the gearbox then B4/44 arms go straight on.
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

[Mike Hudson]

all you have to do with the B44 shafts though is add 3mm of internal preload spacing then there the same length travel as B4 shafts if theres no B4 shafts around :D then you have the option of more travel if the driveshafts arn't going to pop out?

[Mike Hudson]

I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

You just got the rest of the B44 parts to buy now to complete it into a B44 and it'll be dialled ;):D:lol:

[Richard Lowe]

Quiet Pink-Diddy :p :D

[Shifta]

Almost Mike, the rear shocks are the same, the B44 fronts have longer shafts - BJ4 shafts are from the B4. Rear wishbones need a little material taking away same as the fronts to clear the bottom of the gearbox case, unless you do as I do and remove a tiny bit from the gearbox then B4/44 arms go straight on.
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

Hi Richard,

Do you have a list of parts required to put the B44 caster blocks etc on a BJ4 please?

[N7ELA]

Jeff Is it not just #9720 for the caster blocks and #9722 for the steering arms...???

Hope so cos thats wot ive just fitted....

Also toying with the 501x front wishbone mods... the pros are they are stong as out but are there any cons does anyone know...????

[Richard Lowe]

Hi Richard,

Do you have a list of parts required to put the B44 caster blocks etc on a BJ4 please?
I'll look up the part numbers for you, it is just the caster block, steering block and the bushes that go in the steering block you need ;)

[bald eagle]

AS9785.... is this the cradle that will fit lipos in the bj4we?


http://67.199.85.166/main/searchboxresults.php

[Andy Moore]

Just use your Dremel and slot the JC battery trays, its worked great for us.

[Richard Lowe]

AS9785.... is this the cradle that will fit lipos in the bj4we?
What packs are you running?

If they're soft cased you can modify the existing plastic tray's as Andy says to fit. If you're using Trakpower's I'd suggest the Diggity Designs (http://www.diggitydesigns.com/D3_B44_SaddleBraces.html) saddle braces, thats what hold my Trakpower's in ;)

The AE tray for the B44 (if thats what you linked, the link doesn't work btw ;) ) should fit in theory, although I've not seen a BJ4 with one fitted.

[Mash Potato]

What packs are you running?

If they're soft cased you can modify the existing plastic tray's as Andy says to fit. If you're using Trakpower's I'd suggest the Diggity Designs (http://www.diggitydesigns.com/D3_B44_SaddleBraces.html) saddle braces, thats what hold my Trakpower's in ;)

Oh I like that Diggity designs brace. Can you get that in the UK, if so any idea where?

[bald eagle]

Well, I havent commited to buying my lipo packs just yet, still trying to decide which ones to buy... ... decisions decisions.!!! :confused:

I need stick and saddle, stick for the x-6 and saddle for the bj. Any recommendations (i know this isnt the thread fto be asking this question really)

[chb]

I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

Why are they worthwhile ?

On the steering block for instance, I don't understand why replace an rigid/precise aluminium steering with a b44 plastic one ?

[Mike Hudson]

more flex = less stress on other parts, less likely to break other parts...

[chb]

So I guess you don't believe into all these blue alloy FT upgrades for some structural parts(like the optional FT B44 alloy caster block)

[Mike Hudson]

nope, if you start buying blue alloy bling parts the stress is just passed over to other parts that in most cases cost more to replace when they break! I've never broken a plastic hub/steering block on my car.

[Richard Lowe]

Why are they worthwhile ?

On the steering block for instance, I don't understand why replace an rigid/precise aluminium steering with a b44 plastic one ?
Less unsprung weight, less slop and as Mike said less stress on other components if you hit something ;)

[masca555]

anyone know if the front bumper of the B44 (as9718) is compatible with that of bj4we? Thank you

[Mike Hudson]

It doesn't fit

[masca555]

could work the B4's? I never saw the front bumper as a original spare by jconcept ...

[andreasH]

Manual says AE 9562, would be B4/T4 Front Bumper

[Anibal Henriques]

Hi
Does anybody knows if the Hinge pin brace (associated 9717)from the B44 fits the BJ4we?:confused:

Anibal

[b4pete]

just picked up a worlds edition with some well stange shocks on, I have a full set of B4 FT shocks, will they work?

[chris68nufc]

Pete. You need AE 6417 Rear and AE 6418 Front. Not sure what the B4 are.

[chris68nufc]

The Rear of BJ4 is 1.03 and B4 is 1.02 and front is the same as the B4. Ive just looked it up so they should be fine.

[GRIFF55]

you might need just the b44 front spring platforms to raise the springs up on the front.
have you got a pic of these weird shocks?

[b4pete]

Ohh yes, be on soon, they look decent, but arent right for this car. Got to be worth a couple of quid to someone. Just hope someone can ID them

Chris, love the car mate, what were those numbers (1.02) etc about?

[b4pete]

Griff, what do the spring platforms look like?

[chris68nufc]

The numbers are the lengths of the shocks that you need to be the same as the BJ4. The fronts are the same as a B4 however the B4 Rear shock is smaller than the BJ4 by 0.1 of a mm. The lengths i have quoted are from the thread to the top of the shaft.
Offset spring cups
http://www.gshobby.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=15598

If im wrong please somebody correct me. :lol:

[GRIFF55]

thats the boys!!

[b4pete]

I hate to sound like stampo, but, why would i need to raise the springs up?

[chris68nufc]

Its Stampy......:lol:

You get more scope to raise and lower ride heights as the springs that you will be using are short i think. Rich Lowe will be along shortly to confirm!!

[sparrow.2]

The Associated springs are fairly short and the bottom spring cup would hit the wishbone when running more droop at the front if you weren't using the raised spring cups.

[b4pete]

so just order some b44 cups from M K on monday? lol

its a shame about the shocks that are on it ...... lovely and smooth! lol

[ben]

got some you can have F.O.C pete..

[b4pete]

Cheers ben!

[Richard Lowe]

The shock bodies on the B4, B44 and BJ4 are all the same, the rear shafts are the same too. The B4 and BJ4 use the same front shock shafts, the B44's fronts are a touch longer.

The raised spring cups are indeed to give you a greater range of adjustment, you can get away with the standard ones but you will be right at the bottom of the threads ;)

[colmo]

The shock bodies on the B4, B44 and BJ4 are all the same, the rear shafts are the same too. The B4 and BJ4 use the same front shock shafts, the B44's fronts are a touch longer.

The raised spring cups are indeed to give you a greater range of adjustment, you can get away with the standard ones but you will be right at the bottom of the threads ;)

I noticed that when I started learning about suspension setup and ride height.

My BJ4 came equipped with truck blue front springs - they work well, actually (on astroturf), so I just got a complete set of truck fronts to experiment with. A friend with a Tamiya 501X also liked them so much, I gave him the original pair.

Edit: Turns out they aren't truck fronts - truck fronts are way longer. No idea what they are, now. BJ4 stock springs, perhaps.

[b4pete]

does the under tray from a b44 fit please? ta

[Richard Lowe]

Yep :)

[Thomas P]

Less unsprung weight, less slop and as Mike said less stress on other components if you hit something ;)

Agree have been running them since the B44 came out. It is a good choice. Besides you can adjust position on the upper link (something the BJ4 cant) @ the C-hub.

I have a lot less slop now since i skipped my Blue parts :thumbsup:

[grimidol]

Guys what parts do i need to change to B44 front end ?

[Shifta]

Guys what parts do i need to change to B44 front end ?


You just need #9720 for the caster blocks #9722 for the steering blocks #9641 for the bushes and #9751 for the crush tube. Assuming you have some screws and ball studs to assemble it.

Here's a link to an exploded diagram of b44.

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product/AS9060/files/B44_Exploded_Diagram.pdf

[colmo]

I just learned last night that the BJ4 uses TC3 diff cases - they have a JConcepts part number though because they have to be modified by JConcepts. Is this mod doable with a bit of dremel work?

[Richard Lowe]

Not easily as it has to be pretty accurate, you might get away with doing the back but the front has an angle to fit the kickup.

[Zipper]

I made a simple modification to my old BJ4 WE, meaning I could use the B44 steering assembly. This removed lots of the slop from the steering.

It was really easy to do, just used a cone shaped grinding tool on the dremel on the top deck until the holes were big enough for the B44 steering assembly.

http://swangallery.myff.org/gallery/600258/BJ4%20003.jpg

[grimidol]

anyone know if the front shock tower fits from the b44 to a BJ4

[crewie]

Its not a straight fit but you can drill the holes to make it fit I believe.

[Hog]

anyone know if the front shock tower fits from the b44 to a BJ4

Yes you can but as Dave says you have to re-drill the mounting holes for the top deck. I run a 4mm thick BJ4 tower on my B44.

[grimidol]

not sure if is on here but the front drive shafts fit from the B44 to the BJ4WE.:D

[andreasH]

Does anybody know if there is a direct fit for the rear and front axles (BJ4WE) from another car?

The axle has no partnumber for its own.
I have some bones and CVD repair kit at spare, but no axle.

Or do the comlete CVD front and rear fit from another car?
Do the CVA from B44 fit?

[colmo]

Does anybody know if there is a direct fit for the rear and front axles (BJ4WE) from another car?

The axle has no partnumber for its own.
I have some bones and CVD repair kit at spare, but no axle.

Or do the comlete CVD front and rear fit from another car?
Do the CVA from B44 fit?

I bought a B44 CVA kit for that purpose. I believe it does - Richard Lowe has commented on it, somewhere.

[andreasH]

I think the Rear Axle could be from Asso B4/T4 (AE-9598) because the Rear Hub Carrier is Asso AE-9584.

The B44 front CVA would be an option if they were a direct fit.
But I dont want to buy 2 whole CVA's when only one axle is broken.

I'm not sure with the Front Axle.
If someone knows which fits please tell me.

[Richard Lowe]

Hi guys :)

The front axle is from a XX/XXX4, not sure of the part number but if it fits either of those cars it will fit the BJ4.

The rear axle is bespoke to the car, although a B4 one will fit and this is something I put on mine as an upgrade. The drive pin is drilled a little bit further out on the B4 axles which lets you use the blue cone washer so you can tighten the wheels without worrying about bending the drive pin or binding the bearings up.

The B44 CVA's are a direct fit front and rear, but like the B4 rear axle the B44 CVA has it's pin further out so you will need to use a cone washer too.

[andreasH]

Thanks for your reply Richard.
That's what I wanted to know.
Still love my BJ4WE :D

[super__dan]

FYI, there is no way of buying the front axles on their own, DMS confirmed this for me recently who is the MIP importer and Losi specialist.

[nckmat]

Does anybody know if the B44 motor mount fits the BJ4WE? I would like to get the new one from Associated as I am fed up with my motor moving!:mad:

Nick

[Shifta]

Does anybody know if the B44 motor mount fits the BJ4WE? I would like to get the new one from Associated as I am fed up with my motor moving!:mad:

Nick

Original BJ4WE motor mount direct from JConcepts.. $16 + P&P

http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_15_23&products_id=128

[revsinc]

Big thanks for the great info on this thread
just lay down my cash for a BJ4
cheers

[OneKiwi]

B44 front wheels on the BJ4 non WE?
B44 front arms after dremel work on the arm or gearbox right?

[colmo]

B44 front wheels on the BJ4 non WE? - use the front wheel hex hubs from the B44, otherwise the wheel will bind. Losi front wheels work fine.
B44 front arms after dremel work on the arm or gearbox right? - dremel the arm or bulkhead, leave the gearbox alone!

[OneKiwi]

thanks
aren't the losi wheels say from the xxxcr thinner than the normal 4wd front wheels?

[colmo]

thanks
aren't the losi wheels say from the xxxcr thinner than the normal 4wd front wheels?

Sorry, I meant 4wd Losi fronts.

[OneKiwi]

Isn't it B4 front and rear arms not the B44??

What are the better choice the FT ones or the others?

[super__dan]

B4 are different on the front, the newest rear arms are identical.

In the old days I would say 100% plastic, the 'new' plastic is really very flexible. Very safe but can twist and warp. Graphite ones are precise but brittle.

[OneKiwi]

how about shells? do the b44 or b44.1 fit?

[OneKiwi]

the plastic outdrive on the oneway broke what part from the B4/B44 fit? Ill have a scout around today as well
thanks

[colmo]

the plastic outdrive on the oneway broke what part from the B4/B44 fit? Ill have a scout around today as well
thanks

The one-way commonly used in the BJ4 is the HD one-way from the NTC3. The outdrives for that are NOT plastic (nor, do I think, are any one-way outdrives).

[OneKiwi]

sorry ment the outdrive to the center drive train (long dog bone) from the out drive on the front diff

called the drive cup its in plastic and would be good to get it in steel/alu

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/simonandhanna/2011-08-0811-10-16.png

[Richard Lowe]

The plastic input cup is from a TC3/4, AE part number 3917 :)

[OneKiwi]

Many thanks
So its from a one way, if I don't want to use the one way, do I still use it even with a normal diff?

[Richard Lowe]

I'm a bit confused here, are you saying you have a one way diff in the front or a normal diff?

Either way the plastic input cup is the same, it's a different part if you are using the centre one way - though that would be blue alloy already and you say yours is plastic.

[OneKiwi]

I have a one-way in the front and thought at the start that those drive cups were part of the one way system.
Now I see that they aren't.
I am looking at swaping out my one way to a normal diff sorry for being vauge

Thanks for the help.
I have ordered the parts I need plus a diff so the one way is here if anyone wants one