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2jwilki
28-01-2007, 04:31 PM
do you know anything about the associated 4 wheel drive that is ment to be coming out sometime in 07 cos i dont have a clue plzz help i might fancy one myself if there good which probably they will be (possibly simialr to bj4);)

jimmy
28-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Where did you hear about this?

2jwilki
28-01-2007, 04:35 PM
i herd it from jezabel at model torque i dont know where he got it from? confusing lol

bigred5765
28-01-2007, 04:54 PM
yeh its called a rc8 rally x car 1/8th scale nitro

PaulRotheram
28-01-2007, 05:08 PM
there was a post over on rc10b4.com about it, all hear say though! as in some bod said it, and a couple more bods belive it and carries to tell everyone.

Ron Burgundy
28-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Would common sense not prevail and realise that JConcepts and Team Associated are pretty much afiliated.........

It would not be in their best interests to produce a 4wd off road electric buggy

:o

BenG
29-01-2007, 09:09 AM
Pure speculation. AE have always maintained that there is little 'market' to interest therm in 4wd. Now JConcepts are here, they made a statement somewhere, cant remember it exactly, but it was something like they were companies with interests alike e.t.c.

vader
29-01-2007, 10:28 AM
My imperial spies inform me there is no such device.

Scouser
29-01-2007, 10:38 AM
Hold the phone here, jezabel is a bloke?!!:o

BenG
29-01-2007, 10:42 AM
lol yeh, its his Nickname, he is called Jeremey so I guees it went Jeremy>Jez-Jezabel:D

Scouser
29-01-2007, 10:55 AM
Ah ok, poor fella!
Back on topic though, this thread has generated quite a bit of interest judging by the number of views. It is a little surprising that AE have chosen not to persue their rivalry with Losi into the 4wd arena aswell. They have the platforms to work off and the support of hundreds of thousands of consumers. Must have crossed their minds at some point surely?

BenG
29-01-2007, 11:34 AM
I found the thread for it on RC10 B4. rcdude19641 (http://rc10b4.com/forum/member.php?u=2267) said

AE is working on a 4 wheeler. I posted this a while ago but at the last RCX I talked to Gary Owens about it. He said they are working on it (along with some other really cool projects). He "said" it would be "based of the BJ4 with some changes that our drivers want." Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was a tub chassis version of the bj4 with molded shock towers. I don't know what Jconcepts is thinking right now but I'd be a little pissed off. As for factorybutnots source; I know the source and yes he is pretty reliable. Now when would I expect the car? Next year, right now they are focusing on getting the RC8 out and working on the TC5. I know I will support Jconcepts in everything they do because they are the best company out there. If Jason for some reason designs the car to use losi parts then I'll get it over the AE car.

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 11:36 AM
the uk market is about 2-4% of total sale in usa, theres little to no market 4wd state side,2wd and trucks are the thing there.

Scouser
29-01-2007, 12:03 PM
That is true but AE are now owned by Thunder Tiger aren't they? TT being an Asian based company, they might be interested in seeing a 4wd buggy that could take some of the glory away from the other manufacturers. With HPI/ Hotbodies joining in on the fun it seems strange that the probable 2wd champ will be totally absent from 4wd. Perhaps a little 'parental pressure' might be brought to bear!!

mark christopher
29-01-2007, 12:05 PM
if it comes it will prob be metric like the rally x is going to be

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 12:06 PM
there will be no conflict of interest between the two companys at all, thunder tiger are in the process of making a 2wd and 4wd buggy, ae only 4wd will be ic 1/8th for now,

mark christopher
29-01-2007, 01:28 PM
there will be no conflict of interest between the two companys at all, thunder tiger are in the process of making a 2wd and 4wd buggy, ae only 4wd will be ic 1/8th for now,
but it will use thunder tiger parts!

jimmy
29-01-2007, 01:31 PM
bit OT - but did anyone else notice the new header cards on AE parts -

MADE IN USA
made in china

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 01:36 PM
thunder tiger have made ae parts for them for years anyway,
and do already swop parts from one car to another
diffs are the only part used from another car on rc8 all the rest is brand new

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 01:38 PM
bit OT - but did anyone else notice the new header cards on AE parts -

MADE IN USA
made in china

pics jimmy pics please
no havent noticed what have they done

jimmy
29-01-2007, 01:42 PM
Will get a pic later - every part is the same, says made in the USA in big letters, then in the small print it says made in china.

WTF ! haha


I hope there is a AE 4wd buggy. Off road is certainly coming back, and even if the market is ultimately tiny compared to monster truck toys - they SELL those monster trucks on the back of their racing heritage.

BenG
29-01-2007, 01:43 PM
People with an RC18T what logo is underneath the AE one on the reciever?

Answer: Thunder Tiger.

AE are reducing the amounts made in the US. It is much cheaper to have Thunder Tiger mould parts e.t.c

jimmy
29-01-2007, 01:47 PM
I went into modelsport in otley once - I was thinking of buying a MGT thing. There was the AE MGT and the Thunder Tiger version of the same truck..
I already knew they were the same thing, and the Thunder Tiger version was 50 quid less.

vicky asked why the thunder tiger was cheaper - and the guy said that thunder tiger use cheaper plastics! and the quality wasn't as high as the AE version :D

Sorry modelsport, I thought it was funny. ;)

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 01:47 PM
Will get a pic later - every part is the same, says made in the USA in big letters, then in the small print it says made in china.

WTF ! haha


I hope there is a AE 4wd buggy. Off road is certainly coming back, and even if the market is ultimately tiny compared to monster truck toys - they SELL those monster trucks on the back of their racing heritage.

i have it on good authority NO 4wd off road buggy in the near feature
right from the horses mouth

quote tyrc
AE are reducing the amounts made in the US. It is much cheaper to have Thunder Tiger mould parts e.t.c
thunder tiger make most if not all ae parts and have done for years

jimmy
29-01-2007, 01:48 PM
Are you calling mick a horse ?

bigred5765
29-01-2007, 01:55 PM
he is built like one, and trust me if he tramples on you, you would think a horse has hit you, lol

MarkWesterfield
29-01-2007, 02:49 PM
I doubt AE will release an 1/10 4wd electric off-road buggy. Electric off-road is getting smaller and smaller while 1/8 off-road is getting bigger and bigger here in the U.S. They haven't even released their RC8 yet and haven't even mentioned a truggy version. Maybe they would produce a 4wd if they are still popular in the rest of the world, but over here in the states, smelly, noisy, and truck bodies sell. Dame shame too.

Scouser
29-01-2007, 03:23 PM
There are a few manufacturers I would love to see add an off roader to their range. Xray, Corrally and a new home grown Schumacher would all be great news for the class. Can't see it happening though, I just thought that all the pieces were in place for AE to get one sorted pretty quickly. They are working on the new TC5 by all accounts so the diffs are sorted straight off. It just seems that even if it was a parts bin special, that they would still be able to create a competitive buggy that would do well in the stores.
The MADE IN USA/made in china only seems to be on the newer stuff. The old packages with the Stars and Stripes at the top is only USA, the new blue packaging has its Chinese origins printed in the bottom left!! Well spotted Jimmy!

millzy
30-01-2007, 11:11 AM
Gary Owen, nice block he was in the Uk for the NEC thing a few years ago, he phoned me to congratulate me on my last ever welsh regional win with my b4.

not every day a random getS a phone call from an American big wig.:)

woOdy
30-01-2007, 11:20 AM
I doubt AE will release an 1/10 4wd electric off-road buggy. Electric off-road is getting smaller and smaller while 1/8 off-road is getting bigger and bigger here in the U.S. They haven't even released their RC8 yet and haven't even mentioned a truggy version. Maybe they would produce a 4wd if they are still popular in the rest of the world, but over here in the states, smelly, noisy, and truck bodies sell. Dame shame too.

For the last 2 years running the 1/10th electric off road has been fully booked with 130 drivers doing 2wd and 4wd. We have 6 National events in the UK and this year 2wd will go up 150 drivers to conpensate. 2005 we had 2 of the Losi boys come over on the way back from the Worlds warm up and they found it very hard to keep up. This National events over powers any other meeting in this country at the moment.

2jwilki
30-01-2007, 04:51 PM
can anyone find pics of this supposid 1:10th scale 4 wheel drive buggy

bigred5765
30-01-2007, 04:52 PM
there isnt one

2jwilki
30-01-2007, 04:54 PM
well according to jez- jezabel there is which he herd from cml an sum flyer thingy so possibly he could be rite i hope so anyway

bigred5765
30-01-2007, 07:44 PM
1/8th rally x 4wd yip
4wd electric nope

Jonathan
30-01-2007, 08:58 PM
bit OT - but did anyone else notice the new header cards on AE parts -

MADE IN USA
made in china


Im guessing the made in China refers to the actual piece of card and the USA refers to the parts in the bag ?? :confused:

DCM
30-01-2007, 10:03 PM
1/8th rally x 4wd yip
4wd electric nope

Dude, do you think, Mick might just be following orders from AE....?? I know, with the worlds coming up, if I was going to launch a 4wd, I would want it hush hush as much as possible....

jimmy
30-01-2007, 10:06 PM
bet micks out now in the garage screwing the car together.

COME ON, GIVE US THE DETAILS.

I know for a FACT he had the B5 in his car at cml raceway! :D:D:D ;)

bigred5765
30-01-2007, 10:17 PM
ok ill put the cat amongst the pidgeons,
im not allowed to say anything more?
just wait and see what appears over the next few months??
and we will see

could the rumours be true a new 4wd buggy
hmm spy shot badly blured

http://hobbytec.co.uk/spy%20shot%20ae%204wd.jpg

BenG
31-01-2007, 09:36 AM
ok ill put the cat amongst the pidgeons,
im not allowed to say anything more?
just wait and see what appears over the next few months??
and we will see

could the rumours be true a new 4wd buggy
hmm spy shot badly blured

http://hobbytec.co.uk/spy%20shot%20ae%204wd.jpg

thats an RC18T :D

bigred5765
31-01-2007, 11:11 AM
well done
theres the new 4wd electric ae car

bigred5765
31-01-2007, 11:12 AM
bet micks out now in the garage screwing the car together.

COME ON, GIVE US THE DETAILS.

I know for a FACT he had the B5 in his car at cml raceway! :D:D:D ;)

did u get any spy shots of jimmy??B4 he hid it

bigred5765
31-01-2007, 11:14 AM
Dude, do you think, Mick might just be following orders from AE....?? I know, with the worlds coming up, if I was going to launch a 4wd, I would want it hush hush as much as possible....

No but i would have been cagey about the answer

mark christopher
31-01-2007, 11:22 AM
how would they improve the b4?

Northy
31-01-2007, 11:35 AM
how would they improve the b4?

I know ;)

G

mark christopher
31-01-2007, 12:09 PM
I know ;)

G
spill the beans then!!:mad:

millzy
31-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Do you?

DCM
31-01-2007, 04:56 PM
I know..... too... not about the B4 though

mark christopher
01-02-2007, 02:44 PM
some pics here http://www.gregrojna.com/rc8_big.html

Lee
01-02-2007, 03:09 PM
This car was also meant to be all hush hush, but when one of the kyosho drivers a few months ago announced it was his last race someone asked where he was off too and he blurted out AE, oops!:D AE were then forced into issuing a press release:D