The Unofficial Talywain 2009 National Thread

[millzy]

Round 1 of the B.R.C.A Nationals is now just 4 weeks away (31 days)

Info can be found below anything you feel I have not covered feel free to ask

Homepage
http://www.talywainrcracers.com/homepage.html

Map:
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?&t=l&m...07rj|NP4%207RJ

Postcode
NP4 7RJ

off the main road you will see a big sign for the golf course, and a dirt road to the right, stay on that up to the golf house( you go around a R.F.C club house ) once at the golf house follow the path to the right and this will lead you onto the golf range- unlike last year the new track is at the far end of the field

* NEW * Track is 80% Astro and 20% grass
New track features include, Double jumps, Whoops sections, Raised banking and more.

Gates open at 12pm Friday.

Generators off at 11

Food will be served in the club house all weekend – tea –coffee –redbull – all day breakfast and more

Toilets and wash room can be found in the club house as well as a pool table and seating area

Caravans and camping is free, there is no need to pre book your caravan but please park where we ask on arrival

Tyres for the event as listed on your B.R.C.A pack are Schumacher 1-2 mini spikes Ballistic buggy spikes.

Pics of the 10th layout will be online at the end of the month

For pics of the 8th track that includes the jumps and whoops we will use please see link below


http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20930&page=2

[RSharpy]

Are there any B&B's or hotel's within walking distance of the track? Have had a look but am struggling to figure this out, the venue seems a bit MFN.

[minimatto]

pics of track here for rally x http://racecentral.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11

[dan r]

what time do gates close because i dont think that we can get there before 9pm thanks

dan

[Themaddog]

what time do gates close because i dont think that we can get there before 9pm thanks

dan

Matt Lives on Site anyway and is usally in the cafe till late



Hope this helps

Glyn

[Themaddog]

Are there any B&B's or hotel's within walking distance of the track? Have had a look but am struggling to figure this out, the venue seems a bit MFN.

The Premier and Travel Lodge are Just out of walking distance but the Taxi's are very reasonable

Directions and Tel Numbers to Hotels can be found here
http://www.racecentral.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=12


Hope this helps

Glyn

[dan r]

Matt Lives on Site anyway and is usally in the cafe till late



Hope this helps

Glyn

thanks just didnt want to risk it on the day lol

dan

[blitzboy]

any piccies of the track for the national please

[DCM]

the track is being laid next Monday, by the Millz Meister.

[millzy]

any piccies of the track for the national please

did say they would be up at the end of the month- bank holiday monday we will work on the track- might get pics up then if not on the tuesday

[PaulMoody]

Millzy

Do you know which shops will be at the national meeting?

[millzy]

Evolution Projects will be there
as will The Race Place

[Danny McGee]

Can we have some mopre piccys? Looks like a vast improvement from that year, good work to all involved. Should be good fun there this year, well weather being on out side that is :)

[modelimages]

hopefully we will be there around 1-2pm friday. anybody wanting something brought let me know thursday morning at the latest.
john

[super__dan]

Have you got loads of mini spike 2's John? Oh and slim fronts?

[Richard Lowe]

Well done Millzy and crew, the track's looking really good - lots of work gone into that :thumbsup:

[dan r]

what tyres are good for the front at talywain??

dan

[DCM]

we dont know, not run on it yet

[millzy]

-Ta guys

[Body Paint]

TRACKSIDE SPARES WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AS THE OFFICIAL WELSH SHOP AT TALLY NATIONAL

He will have SEVERAL HUNDRED pairs of SCHUMACHER TYRES and INSERTS and will have a very large selection of ASSOCIATED SPARES as well as all the other things you would expect to be able to buy.

If you want anything specific give Paul a call on 07812115259 or email shop@tracksidespares.co.uk the online shop has only gone live this week so has just a small selection of stock on it at present.

[Stu]

Craig, will be have your peaked cap thing with you, the one with the flames on?

[Belsten]

Dont suppose anyone will be there that could furnish me with some acetone will there ?

[minimatto]

http://www.talywainrcracers.com/pano%20copy.jpg

[Stu]

Looks good boss.

[Richard Lowe]

Looks good boss.
Agreed :)

The smaller hose on the inside of the larger hose is a welcome addition :thumbsup:

[DCM]

After a long day, with Matt and his crew of helpers.... and hinderers....

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[MikePimlott]

WOW, Cant wait that track looks ace. :thumbsup:

[Danny McGee]

How long is it?

[dan r]

really looking forward to this:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Chris Green]

Wow! track looks ace.

When is the national / next electric meeting there?

[PaulUpton]

First national is this weekend!

Track looks good guys, looking forward to my first national!

Paul

[blitzboy]

ditto buddy, looking really good guys can t wait

[lardshow]

track looks cracking! really looking forward to my first national!

good work guys! :thumbsup:

[ashleyb4]

Hehe i cant wait either little worried about the road with the carvan thoug heard its a bit steep in places.

A

[David Church]

Congrats on all your hard work, the track looks great!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[DCM]

Hehe i cant wait either little worried about the road with the carvan thoug heard its a bit steep in places.

A

you will be ok, you can get out and push!!

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Is the camping in the same place as last year. I am asking because the track looks like it is further onto the driving range than last year and there is not as much room?

[DCM]

there is plenty of room there, for camping.

[benknight13]

Looks really good cant wait till this weekend :thumbsup:

[Lee Martin]

good job guys! wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than last year! im looking forward to it!

[Body Paint]

Craig, will be have your peaked cap thing with you, the one with the flames on?

I've lost that bad boy... I'm quite upset actually :cry:

[RudeTony]

Although I wasn't there last year, the track looks excellent....wishing the club and the organisers all the best in advance and if they just order the right weather it will be a great event without question

[GRIFF55]

noooooooooooooooooo!!! have you tried on the bay for a new one:lol::thumbsup:

[minimatto]

Track is 131 mtrs long at the shortest point and hugging the pipe. Straight is 28 mtrs long.

[RudeTony]

28 metres long? Is that measured as it looks so much longer?!
Looks good whatever it is .....

[minimatto]

Measeured with one of those wheels. not sure what they called

[PaulUpton]

Are vehicles allowed to be taken up to the track? or is it a case of walking up and down all day?

Paul

[IceMike]

we were all pitting on there last year with our cars so i wouldnt see y not this year

[DCM]

Are vehicles allowed to be taken up to the track? or is it a case of walking up and down all day?

Paul

I believe, pitting and parking is allowed on the grass, as well as camping (and that doesn't mean Millzy wearing pink all day!!)

[Belsten]

really looking forward to this, track looks awesome :thumbsup:

[PaulUpton]

Thanks guys see you saturday!

[DCM]

really looking forward to this, track looks awesome :thumbsup:

don't forget, you need to collect your brothers shells, otherwise, he will have to race topless for Saturday morning, and the thought of Pete... topless :( hee hee

[Danny McGee]

What direction we gonna be running for Saturday?

[peetbee]

don't forget, you need to collect your brothers shells, otherwise, he will have to race topless for Saturday morning, and the thought of Pete... topless :( hee hee
OI!:mad:

[James]

What direction we gonna be running for Saturday?

Good question...:thumbsup:

:confused:

[DCM]

you will be going the other way round, to Sunday.... lol

[Chrislong]

Measeured with one of those wheels. not sure what they called

Possibly a Trumeter measuring wheel, made by the company who made me redundant in February......... so I recommend a tape measure

[Belsten]

don't forget, you need to collect your brothers shells, otherwise, he will have to race topless for Saturday morning, and the thought of Pete... topless :( hee hee

I will be up tomorrow night fella :lol:

[benknight13]

Hi
Is there anyone living closer to the track then me that can tell me what the weather is doing up there closer just as here (preston) its been raining for the last 3 days neally so i may need to water proof some things?:thumbsup:
Thanks
ben

[DCM]

been dry in Cardiff

[RudeTony]

What direction we gonna be running for Saturday?

Dan - the track has to be running from right to left on the straight as it would be an illegal layout otherwise - if the rule is still there like it used to be, a track cannot narrow at any point - if you look at the beginning of the straight, it is thinner and I think that is where the loop is as well.

Weather not looking the best for the weekend unfortunately though

I always feel this is a shame for the organisers especially when they have put in a lot of effort for a meeting

[niggs98]

looking better than it was tho. i can live with over cast lol

[RudeTony]

I hope your right but by the BBC weather forecast is looks like this


Last updated at 02:36 on Thursday 7th May
All times are BST (Europe/London, GMT+0100)

Friday day weather


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/14.gif?v20_3

Heavy Rain Shower
Max: 14°C 57°F
Sunrise: 05:29
Saturday day weather


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/10.gif?v20_3

Light Rain Shower
Max: 15°C 59°F
Sunrise: 05:27
Sunday day weather


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/12.gif?v20_3

Light Rain
Max: 15°C 59°F
Sunrise: 05:26

[njc11]

Another weather link..

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/newport_forecast_weather.html

Fingers crossed it will stay dry :thumbsup:

[IceMike]

yer metcheck doesnt look 2 promising either :( i guess it jsut means that we need to drink alot more so we really dont care that we are gettin wet :P

[timmy121]

don't look to bad on here

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Pontypool-NP4

just hope its right

[DCM]

I wouldn't trust any forecast, for up there...

[IceMike]

i like that forcast doesnt make me sad im in a tent

[minimatto]

Camping available from Friday and is free. Call into main building on arrival so I can make sure you park in right area and not blocking access.

Water is available, as long as you have containers.

Cafe will be open all weekend from 6.30am til late.

Gates will remain open all night, but please be aware that I live on site so no eratic driving when entering.

Also dogs/pets are ok, but I have 3 German Shepherds as guard dogs, so please keep dogs on leash.

[David Church]

I have contacted the South Wales Argus, (newspaper) about covering the event, the lady I spoke to sounded very interested on the phone today!!!!

Nothing promised but we may have local news paper coverage this weekend!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[ashleyb4]

Sounds awsome DC.

The weather oesnt look bad on met check all i can say is wait and see who cares what happens.

A

[DCM]

I have contacted the South Wales Argus, (newspaper) about covering the event, the lady I spoke to sounded very interested on the phone today!!!!

Nothing promised but we may have local news paper coverage this weekend!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

you could also try the Western Mail and South Wales Echo, they are very popular reads... (www.icwales.co.uk)

[Belsten]

good circulation on all 3, not just covering wales, also covering bristol and surrounding area :thumbsup:

[jimmy]

Let me know if these papers need to use any photos DC, more than happy for them to use some photos to help promote things.

[RudeTony]

The weather forecast looking better - let's hope they got it all wrong as usual....

weather for the Friday

<H3>16:00

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/3.gif?v20_3

Sunny Intervals
Temp: 14°C 57°F

19:00

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/3.gif?v20_3

Sunny Intervals
Temp: 12°C 54°F
Sunset: 20:47

22:00

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/0.gif?v20_3

Clear Sky
Temp: 10°C 50°F

01:00 (Sat)

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Partly Cloudy
Temp: 9°C 48°F

01:00 (Sat)
</H3>
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/2.gif?v20_3

Partly Cloudy
Temp: 9°C 48°F

Last updated at 02:36 on Friday 8th May
All times are BST (Europe/London, GMT+0100)

Saturday day weather

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/10.gif?v20_3

Light Rain Shower
Max: 14°C 57°F
Sunrise: 05:27

Sunday day weather

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/weather/img/symbols/57x57/3.gif?v20_3

Sunny Intervals
Max: 17°C 63°F
Sunrise: 05:26

[David Church]

Let me know if these papers need to use any photos DC, more than happy for them to use some photos to help promote things.


Cheers dude!!!!

I will try and call the other newspapers today:thumbsup:

[DCM]

there is a space in both 2wd and 4wd for this weekend, if you want in, contact Paul Worsley asap!!

[ashleyb4]

OoOoOoOoOoO I cant wait now hehehehehe almost ready jst gotta pop into town and get a second petrol can and a few bits then where going whe ndad gets home. hehehe first national for a long time.

A

[Jonesy]

See all you guys tomorrow morning bright and early!!

[Lee Martin]

anyone got a postcode for me

[Chris Doughty]

anyone got a postcode for me

I have... if you want to come to my house... :P

[col300]

anyone got a postcode for me

In the first post of this thread ;)

[PaulUpton]

Can someone confirm mains is definatly avaliable to use, just checked my 12v's and there all knackered!!

Says on details that mains is avaliable but just want to check!

Paul

[Darren Boyle]

Well, it look s like the X6 has carried on from where it left off at last years Nats. Early days at the moment but I have just heard back from the X-Team at Taly.

In round 1 it was an X6 Squared 1-2-3 for the team - Phil Sleigh, Ellis Stafford, Mat Dodd (and I believe it was privateer Nathan Waters with another X6 Sq in fourth)

Round 2 and it was Ellis Satfford (X6 Sq), Lee Martin (B4) and Phil Sleigh (X6 Sq) who took up the top three places

Go lads!!!

[Lee]

Excellent!!!

[stegger]

How come your not there Lee ?:confused:

[_sleigh_]

Last round of quali is almost over and top 10 stands as

Stafford
Sleigh
Martin
Bradby
Yardy
McGee
Stanley
Lee
Waters
Lowe

[Darren Boyle]

So front row X-Factory, 5 in the A in total and Tom C is BQ I understand, not bad lads!!!!

[stegger]

Come on boy's finish it off :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[strobe]

Popped up to Tally earlier. Main straight looked very bumpy and random. Quite a Few breakages.
Weather was windy with the odd outbreak off sun.

[Garry Driffill]

Any news from Todays results?

X-Factory dominate again? :D

[Darren Boyle]

Not quite....... Tom Yardy TQ and win, but Tom Cockerill Q 3 and finished 2nd and Ellis Q 7 and finsihed 3rd, two more X-Factory cars in the top three....happy days (from what I have been told by the team lads)

[jono83]

yardy's first national win too.

congrats tom

[jim76]

good to see Tom back at the sharp end. Nice one Tom

[DCM]

Popped up to Tally earlier. Main straight looked very bumpy and random. Quite a Few breakages.
Weather was windy with the odd outbreak off sun.

I ran all day there, and only had one moment on the straight, and I was going all out down the straight, and up the banking, many a drive round the outside, up there.

So if a mere F5 with a Tamiya DB-01 can do it... so can everyone else, just don't drive up the MIDDLE of the straight.

[GRIFF55]

Thanks to all at tally!! Really enjoyed the weekend. Weather was great and enjoyed the track all bar the straight which i found a bit random if you had to change lines or try a pass (ok, didn't do alot of the latter:lol:)
Nice one, vast improvement over last year even if my result wasn't.

Big WELL DONE!!! to Phil for Sat and Yardy for Sunday!!!!

[tyreman]

I ran all day there, and only had one moment on the straight, and I was going all out down the straight, and up the banking, many a drive round the outside, up there.

So if a mere F5 with a Tamiya DB-01 can do it... so can everyone else, just don't drive up the MIDDLE of the straight.

Thats fine when you are doing 27-28 second laps, but when you are doing 24-25 second laps then try it!!!

[IceMike]

awesome weekend fellas, and such a great team of guys.

[Lee]

I can't wait to hear Mike Hudson's thoughts on the track.

Well done to Phil and the Two Toms.

Yesterday it seemed you had to have been Married to make the A and today you had to be called Tom, Ace !!:lol:

[ashleyb4]

Wow what a weekend. 2wd was good happy with where i i finished and loved my final, had a few laps changing between first and second with wraggy. Then he got away and i was left to scrap with alan hart which was good to :)

Saturday night was mad decided to fit a stick pack lipo in my xx4 for a bit of exprimentation. So mid way though this mum overloads then genny so i go out turn it off and go to start it and i snapped the pull cord. So stripped it down and put a new cord in but we seem to of done it wrong. So plugged into Craigs genny and finally finished the job.

Sunday was awsome car was good with the lipo was struggerling with consistancy all day then in round 4 i did a storming round with only one mistake. Which gave me a good round score and put me in the J behind Mike Elliot and Andy Reeves. And basically it just went wrong but did end up 4th after all the mess.

Track/Venue:

Track was awsome today some area's might of needed a bit of flattening but jumps seemed to work much better today. As for saturday loved the layout but the jumps where not that easy.

Only Problem i had with the venue was the lack of toilets overnight and the fact that if you wanted water you had to ask or brave the dogs.

But i know how hard it is to run an event like this and well dont to everyone at tallywain great event.

Also well done to sleigh and well done to Tom for today you really do deserve it fella. Well done.

A

[The Monk]

Well done Tom and sleigh! (Tom, i'm sure you've made Terry proud!)

To sum up my weeend:-
Saturday - b-e-a-utiful
Sunday - dog-poo, total dog poo

[DCM]

Thats fine when you are doing 27-28 second laps, but when you are doing 24-25 second laps then try it!!!

erm... I was getting them sort of laps... it was my old fart brain, round the astro that caught me out. It is off-road in the end... I have to endure a winter of racing saloons on flat tracks, don't need flat tracks when I go outdoors. I understand that some were struggling, but then there were also a lot, not struggling with the straight too.... can't condem a track because people can't 'negotiate' a straight that got bumps in it.

Anyhows, could moan/discuss/chuck stuff out of the cot over it, it is done, dusted, was a fab day, knackered now though, thankfully, only tool 45 mins to get home.

Ash, I did ask about the toilets, from what I understand, when they provided a 'porta-potty' last year, it was hardly used. Maybe this could be brought up, and be an 'essential' part of a National weekend, 24hr access to a toilet.

Hands up who got sunburn?? :woot:

[DCM]

As for Yardy's B-Max.... that car was dialled

[dan_kitty]

nice one tallywain great weekend! weather turned out good as well:)

[andy reeves]

Thanks to everyone who helped run this event. You even managed to order the sun :thumbsup:. Personally i didn't enjoy the track yesterday. I could not find any rytham at all on it. But that is how it goes sometimes I guess

Congrats to both Phil and Tom for the wins over the weekend.:thumbsup:

[MikePimlott]

Really enjoyed the weekend this being my first national. i thought the track was good both days, and my cars and times improved throughout the days. :thumbsup:

congrats to Phil and Tom for the wins.

[Southwell]

Well done to everyone, the track was very good everywhere except the straight and the first double on Sunday, they proved to be very random and inconsistent, which were where 95% of my crashes were. Apart from that it was a good effort and i can only see it getting better next year!

Well done to Phil and Tom for your wins.

[Stu]

I can't wait to hear Mike Hudson's thoughts on the track.



Lee, that's legend.

Good to see so many 4wd chassis in the 'A' final.
X5, XX4, Pred, B44, Cat, D5 & Yoke.

http://www.northernracer.com/posted/80.jpg

[Lee Martin]

Well done tom and phil, long time coming!!

Well i dont want to say much....i just hope i dont have to go back....

How anyone can say the straight was not a problem is beyond me, its off road - agreed, not destruction Derby...and about lines up the straight i tried almost everyone, even in the end i made sure i rubbed in pipe on the inside to give me the best opportunity.

I dont mean for this to sound bad on anyone who helped at the track, thought you all did a good job (millzy especially). I just get annoyed to find myself spending money to go racing at somewhere i dont see fit. The track should be proven and checked before nationals go ahead.

I heard that not many tracks put in anymore, so - we either need to make it more worthwhile having nationals at the tracks...or reduce the number of national rounds to cater for having only the best tracks and then support regionals more?

Must say, not really a happy bunny on this matter and see the reason more people are drifting to 8th....

[Stu]

i made sure i rubbed in pipe on the inside to give me the best opportunity.....

http://www.northernracer.com/posted/81.jpg

[Lee Martin]

haha! good work Stu!"

[millzy]

http://www.northernracer.com/posted/81.jpg

losi shocks on your b44 didnt help then :):)

Straigh wasnt good was it- i want it sorted as much as you lot do- sorry lads really am

did you all like the layout and the new features?

[Lee Martin]

The actual lay out was ok....but just the surface and jumps etc needed work. all very 'Random'

For a 8th im sure it will be fine.

[millzy]

Random was indeed the right word

live and learn i think is the right way to look at it- it was my first time at building an Astro track- ill get if sorted dont you worry

[bigred5765]

good skills millzy, track does have great potential,I'm sure you.ll get there,

[Lee]

One thing that strikes me from reading the comments is that a national event has been ran on an untested track. I understand the club were up against it with hosting the first national and not having a chance to run a regional etc. I suppose Blyth are lucky in this respect with hosting a round later in the year. I don't know if it was possible but maybe the first round would have been better going to one of the other all weather tracks, ie, eden park, stotfold. At least some running could be done on the taly track but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[Stu]

Gallery - only 4wd.
http://www.northernracer.com/images/talywain/34.JPG (http://www.northernracer.com/talywain)

I hope we go back next year, I enjoyed it.

Some more spade-slapping is needed, but after that it'll be Maximim-Best Boss.

[RudeTony]

As everyone is posting comments then I will also give my opinion on the track and the event.....I haven't raced as many of you know for some 8 years at Nationals. To see Ellis Stafford (our National 2wd champion) have a some 6 second lead in the main A final leg 1 and simply go on the straight and tumble over and over till the car broke that put him out of the race, in my opinion that is simply NOT right. If the current best in the UK can't go down the straight then I ask how can anyone else have a chance!I was on for a top 10 time in round 1 and as commentated at the time, some few seconds off TQ and my 4wd turned over on the straight for no reason whatsoever and I was actually comming off the power to not make an error.....again in my opinion this is simply NOT right.Like I said on the mike when I was commentating I think the club did a great job at the weekend....lots and lots of good points but as a constructive point, I say sort out the straight and some of the profiles of the jumps - apart from that it was all fine and a good bunch of people that have obviously worked hard to get the meeting on and I feel they will listen to the comments and make the place even better.Thanks to Talywain members and organises for you efforts - this post is meant to be constructive and nothing more......Tony Evdoka

[millzy]

ta tony- nice to see you again after many years-

yours like many are right- but it did make for close racing lol

[Fabs]

I was racing at Coventry the other week end and it was a lot worse than this track.

Sure, it would be nice to see the straight a bit flatter and the bumps a bit less random (the double on the righ hand is the worst IMHO). Would be equally nice to see the 'big' double changed so that it can be taken with less of a risk, even if some drivers managed to get it right 90% of the time in 2WD (Danny is a good example).

Overall I had a really good week end, 2WD F final for my first ever national was well above what I expected. 4WD wasn't as well as I think i'd just used up all of my luck and talent for the week end on saturday, lol.

Just to make a point, I didn't have a single tumble down the straight. I had a few small issues in 4WD but as far as my 2WD was concerned the straight was flat :thumbsup:

Well done to everyone at Talywain and I hope we come back next year with an improved track.

[Jamie B4]

Just a quick one as I agree with the comments made with regards to the jump's profile's and straight- however thought it made for fantastic finals as if 2 cars were close then the 2nd would try a move and either benefit or ruin the run. Also thought there was people in the top finals that would not have been there on a run track such as stotfold, southport, eden park etc. So they can now push on and see what happens.

Thanks to tally,good weather / social side great - pleasant

[blitzboy]

wow what a meeting , my first nationals , good track, except for the main straight which seem to catch a few peps out but for my pred this did nt seem a problem and my x6 ran squared well too , dispite all my efforts i had a really good meeting and was amazed at the times some of you guys were pulling on laps , saw some serious racing and amazing driving too , looking forward to the next meeting , very happy with my results though as i improved all day on 2wd bar my last qualifier and for my pred it was again my last two quaklifiers that i improved , so onwards and upward for me now hopefully , my throttle jabba toll worked rerally well for me too for me on day two , dispite everyone s comments im keeping it on for now , and thanks to everyone at tally for a good meeting , special thanks to everyone for the support at the meeting , team extreme (lewis and Nathan), kev lee , matt dodd ,ash, dc too ,

Team toe out , taking it every way but loose :drool:

[ben]

Thanks to the talywain crew, you had clearly put alot of effort in to the track to get it ready for the national. I think you could be onto a winner with some work on the profiles of the jumps and the straight! :thumbsup:
I had a great weekend from all aspects. Really enjoyed my first meeting with the new team.

A big well done to Tom Yardy for his first national win. You deserved it man!
Nathan waters did excellent to make his first national A-main
Huge well done to Tom Cockerill for finishing second in 4wd, Great result!

Ben

[Cockerill]

Thanks to the talywain crew, you had clearly put alot of effort in to the track to get it ready for the national. I think you could be onto a winner with some work on the profiles of the jumps and the straight! :thumbsup:
I had a great weekend from all aspects. Really enjoyed my first meeting with the new team.

A big well done to Tom Yardy for his first national win. You deserved it man!
Nathan waters did excellent to make his first national A-main
Huge well done to Tom Cockerill for finishing second in 4wd, Great result!

Ben

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o

[James]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o

Great comic timing T-Bag Haha :D
Great drive in the 4wd A, you're my hero.

Awesome composed drives from Phil Sleigh and Tom Yardy, ace work and well deserved, congratulations both of you. And Nathan & John, great work on your first National A's :thumbsup:..

[Danny McGee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4o

TOM = LEGEND................!

[Danny McGee]

Vicky,

Any chance you can post or at least send me the videao of the 3rd leg of 2wd :) I wanna show the guys at work :D

Merci

[DaveG28]

Interesting comments on the straight, I'm one who does think there can be a too bumpy track for 10th unlike Lee and others, but didn't have a problem with the straight (well, lifted at the same point every lap and it went over fine), whereas even some top guys did, so there must be an issue and I was just lucky (and despite me being slow, my car goes as quick on the straights as anyones)!! Totally agree with Griff that it definitely was an issue if people had to use another line on it. Also totally agree with Fabs that Cov is much rougher!

Seriously, agree with most on here, just the straight (It would be nice to be able to stay flat on the main straight!) and first double (when run 4wd direction) could do with some profiling/flattening, other than that I liked it!!

[Chrislong]

I agree with what Pidge says, but I do hope we go back.

Fair enough, you guys want to defend the work you have done, and you deserve a load of credit for it as it was a good track apart from one part of it. But in my opinion the greatness was somewhat dilluted by the straight being random. If Ellis and others in the top 10 can't do it consistently, then what chance do the rest of us have? I can accept bumpy, but the straight should be do able, and any obstacles be consistent accross the width and be visible - the bumps were not visible or consistent. And FFS it was so bumpy cars were airborn over the loop to the point they were not counting.

Another point, is Batley got a slating and a letter from the BRCA - for a rough straight and lack of toilets. So what has changed now? Personally the straight at Batley and general track condition (at the last national held there) was better than Talywain last weekend in my opinion. Im just stating this in response to the denial that the straight being overly bumpy is an issue. A lot of it is down to opinion, but benchmarking it against Batley straight which was complained about - then yes Talywains should have been a bit smoother and predictable (by no means flat ofcause, but there is a middleground)

The other thing is it could be made 80% better by the straight being do-able consistently, the other 20% I personally could live with and I did enjoy the track until I got to the straight. So I do hope we're back there, that we have toilets (i was bursting so much in the morning I snook into the ladies before I exploded - would have been messy), and that the pub stocks more Magners.

I did make a comment to H, didn't go down well, would have been nicer if was able to chat to him as I wasn't looking for an arguement or to offend him. I was trying to say I liked the track except for the straight. But hey ho, clearly a lot of work has gone on, and granted none of you want to hear negativity. But the fact is something wasn't right, so please don't take offence for the critisism.

[DCM]

I did make a comment to H, didn't go down well, would have been nicer if was able to chat to him as I wasn't looking for an arguement or to offend him. I was trying to say I liked the track except for the straight. But hey ho, clearly a lot of work has gone on, and granted none of you want to hear negativity. But the fact is something wasn't right, so please don't take offence for the critisism.

I think, you may find that H had had a few come up and were quite 'abusive' about it all, so you may have gone and asked at the wrong time, dude. I was there when there was one particular tirade towards H and the track, during practice. It wasn't pleasant at all.

I had no input into putting the astro down, and only helped to nail the hose in place on bank holiday Monday.

[millzy]

You had no change of speaking to H on Sunday- as some rather nice person had a very verbal and abusing go at myself and H for the track as his son has rolled and broke his car- I went home after that

H stuck around as he was race director but if he had gone home I wouldn’t have blamed him, there is a way of addressing and issue with the track - shouting and swearing and making out we are incompetent by the rostrum is not the way to do it.

Fully understand what every one is saying about the straight and the issues will be resolved.

[minimatto]

Hope at least some of the drivers enjoyed the weekend. Yes I agree that the straight was too bumpy for 1/10th and it will be altered.

As for the lack of toilets, a simple lack of communication between myself and H, it was meant to be announced that if toilets were neede overnight, just to knock on my door and I would have opened them up.

just 1 complaint the club has tho, what classes as rubbish - broken chairs and even a broken petrol generator!!!!!!!!!

[Stu]

..................some rather nice person had a very verbal and abusing go at myself and H .....................

What a cock.

[jim76]

and even a broken petrol generator!!!!!!!!!


Ash?!!!

[DCM]

oh, Stu, glad you captured me in full motion, at marshall point 8 on Sunday... some people won't believe I can move that fast!! haha

[ashleyb4]

Ash?!!!

I wasnt going to leave it in the middle of a field in wales its worth to much its going to be repaired.

A

[minimatto]

Might be a problem if you wanted it back, as all rubbish was piled up ready for collection today.

Will check when I get back to golf range this evening.

[Kopite]

I can't ever really bring myself to complain about a meeting, cos i can't imagine the amount of work that goes into hosting a national event, for such minimal reward. For someone to actually verbally abuse the people that made the event happen, well it's just totally out of order.

Yes, the straight was bumpy, and i probably had a grumble to myself about it at some point on the Saturday (didn't race on the Sunday, so can't speak for the way it drove then), but overall, the only thing i can say is just a big thanks for all the effort that went into hosting the event in the first place. Nice one to you all :thumbsup:


However... i will forever be haunted by the sheer size of the turd left in the toilet on the Saturday morning. Whomever created that needs to get to a doctors fast, as it was the size of a man's arm :o

[DaveG28]

Might be a problem if you wanted it back, as all rubbish was piled up ready for collection today.

Will check when I get back to golf range this evening.

Think Ash was saying he took his with him?

Should have put in my prior post, big thanks to all the Taly guys for the effort, could see how much work had and still was going into it all, and definitely appreciate it, as well as covering my marshalling in the final!

[Fabs]

However... i will forever be haunted by the sheer size of the turd left in the toilet on the Saturday morning. Whomever created that needs to get to a doctors fast, as it was the size of a man's arm :o

I think that would be Mr Long :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

Ah no, unfortunately mine was 2 arms so it can't have been mine. Oh and I did manage to beat them through the flush with my right leg, I left no suprises for anyone.

Yeh whoever launched abuse at H and you Mills is a cock, I have a lot of respect for you guys as I know you listen and I know without more people like you the sport/hobby/addiction doesn't survive. So don't let the minority kill your enthusiasm. I do want to go back in 2010 :)

[DCM]

Ah no, unfortunately mine was 2 arms so it can't have been mine. Oh and I did manage to beat them through the flush with my right leg, I left no suprises for anyone.

ACE :woot: nasty images now though... in my head

[millzy]

Ah no, unfortunately mine was 2 arms so it can't have been mine. Oh and I did manage to beat them through the flush with my right leg, I left no suprises for anyone.

Yeh whoever launched abuse at H and you Mills is a cock, I have a lot of respect for you guys as I know you listen and I know without more people like you the sport/hobby/addiction doesn't survive. So don't let the minority kill your enthusiasm. I do want to go back in 2010 :)

the minority that like to spill there dislike into other posts that have nothing to do with the track

[Jonesy]

I have no complains about the track after the my best start ever to a National Series, finishing 26th on both days - thanks for the points :D:thumbsup:

I agree with most comments on here regarding the straight, it was really bumpy but surely that should have meant that people could have / should have slowed down a little?? I did and it paid dividends!! In the 4wd final I even managed to go full chat down the straight, maybe that was too much commitment.

My only real complaint / moan was the first double in 4wd which was the last double in 2wd. If it wasn't for the randomness of it I could have even made the 'B' final but saying that other people may not have made mistakes.

Thanks to Tally (esp Mills and H - you are the only 2 I know from there) for a great weekend, I'd like to go back in 2010 and I'm glad there are more tracks in 2009 that can't be classed as 'home' tracks should be a great season.

[Al3xis007]

yeah it was bumpy but everyone had the same track

our mid south regional at silverstone a couple of years ago was prob worse, atleast the straight was under our nose's this time

well done to Phil Sleigh and Tom Cockerill (and Tom Yardy), we all know Ellis will be back strong for Oz, ill be cheering

[dan r]

my first national
really enjoyed myself great weather
thanks guys for your work

dan

[peetbee]

my first national
really enjoyed myself great weather
thanks guys for your work

dan
Same sentiments here too :thumbsup:

[Belsten]

thoroughly enjoyed the weekend too thanks all, my best ever nats results too

[millzy]

thoroughly enjoyed the weekend too thanks all, my best ever nats results too

that cant be good- you where behind me in the final lol

[Stu]

thoroughly enjoyed the weekend too thanks all, my best ever nats results too

http://www.northernracer.com/images/talywain/17.JPG

[millzy]

http://www.northernracer.com/images/talywain/17.JPG

Dave the Hoff playing in the sand lol

[KevLee]

I think I’d be telling fibs if I said didn't curse the straight a couple of times yesterday but I actually though the layout was pretty good. I really hope that all the guys involved don't get disheartened, with some levelling and reprofiling of the jumps its done and I think it will be a great national track that people will be happy to return to each year.

I know what its like to be on the receiving end of criticism, luckily by the time Stotfold had a national we'd had time to sort thing out, but it does make you feel like all your hard work is unappreciated and often the people that complain don't make any contribution. The club (milzy, H and all the others I don't know) obviously did everything they could and must have worked extremely hard to get it there.... with a little bit more work it will be a great track to return to next year.

Well done to Yardy and Sleigh for the wins and Nathan and Spenner for their first national A's.

[David Church]

A *BIG* THANKS to Talywain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You guys did a great job and I am sure it will be even better next year!!!!!!

We learn from our mistakes and from peoples comments.

I had no trouble with the straight, but then I went so slow I didn't even notice the bumps!!! Hahahaha

Also thanks to Mike and Grant Williams for you assistance with my car, and Tony for helping with the MC-ing, I found it very difficult to commentate without Mr Harris and race, but still very much enjoyed my weekend!!!!

Thanks to all the volunteer BRCA people!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Without you we would not even have an event!!!!!! And it was great to see Chris again, the BRCA chairman!!!! Oh and where is my BRCA jacket!!! hahahaha

[carter_213]

Was a cool weekend! Really enjoyed my first national and i didnt finish last! :)

DC your comments are legendary,me and Leon have been doing impressions all day!

Looking forward to Owestry!

[Richard Lowe]

Another well done to the club, lots of effort gone into the track and while it was very rough the layout was really good.

My only complaint (other than the straight of course) was also the first double in 4wd which I couldn't seem to do for fudge, it seemed to change every lap.

I think the problem with the straight is/was caused by the 8th's running down the banking and slamming into the flat making it washboard. If we'd have had a slow corner at the end of the straight leading onto the banking the bumpy straight wouldn't have been such an issue.

More of the same next year Millzy, except can we go on/off the banking at lower speeds, the impact the cars go through on the transition between the banking and flat was nuts.

[GRIFF55]

that cant be good- you where behind me in the final lol


Don't mention that final to Bavid mate, he'll go nuts:woot::lol:

[David Church]

Was a cool weekend! Really enjoyed my first national and i didnt finish last! :)

DC your comments are legendary,me and Leon have been doing impressions all day!

Looking forward to Owestry!

Impressions of me????

Which cheesy line was it?????

Boom shanka???? In-nit??? Or maximum, best??? Or other???

Hahahaha, I do need encouragement, and I shall carry on entertaining you lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[carter_213]

Thanks for confusing the hell out of me on Saturday night about my shock/spring setup Rich! LOL
Got there in the end! Cheers for the help! Catch you at the next one!

DC; Was busting out the boom shanka's!!

[ashleyb4]

Think Ash was saying he took his with him?

Should have put in my prior post, big thanks to all the Taly guys for the effort, could see how much work had and still was going into it all, and definitely appreciate it, as well as covering my marshalling in the final!

Yea not mine. Ours is in the garage here.

A

[MikePimlott]

DC; Was busting out the boom shanka's!!

and the other comentator's "etcetera, etcetera" for the A final announcements :woot:

Ace commentery all day. :thumbsup:

[DCM]

Who distributes 'etc etc' products, as they were sponsoring all the top guys!!!

[dbizzle5]

Here are the vids Ive done of all the 2wd A Final legs and the 1st and 3rd leg of the 4wd A Final:thumbsup:

2wd A Final Leg 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l308eRLWi-o

2wd A Final Leg 2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM75UHjLd9o&feature=channel_page

2wd A Final Leg 3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6NpEoIF1Cc&feature=channel_page

4wd A Final Leg 1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3nr_0OrP60

4wd A Final Leg 3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3A-Gyae-cw

[carter_213]

Suprised you kept that steady Dan with all that Bud you drank over the weekend! lol see you at holbeach dude!

(Is sharpy bringing boris?! :)

[dbizzle5]

Suprised you kept that steady Dan with all that Bud you drank over the weekend! lol see you at holbeach dude!

(Is sharpy bringing boris?! :)

Good old Boris! I bet he will make an apperance if Sharpy goes. If he doesnt die of food poisoning from all those burgers and ketchup!!:o

[CharlieF]

(Is sharpy bringing boris?! :)[/quote]

Boris obviously made a lot of new friends over the weekend.

Hope to see you at Holbeach the week after next Boris mate! :thumbsup:

[Richard Lowe]

Thanks for confusing the hell out of me on Saturday night about my shock/spring setup Rich! LOL
Got there in the end! Cheers for the help! Catch you at the next one!
I did my best haha :woot:

All those crazy Schumacher springs and stuff are a bit alien, it was more of a semi-educated guess - I hope it was helpful :)

Leon and the BBQ was quality, I wonder if he even remembers :lol:

[RSharpy]

lol, if I can make Holbeach no doubt Boris will be with me, for sure he'll be at Os. :D

Rich- He must be able to remember, I know I can, the smell that is. :lol:

I really enjoyed my first National, yes there are a few things in need of ironing out but overall the track was very enjoyable to race on, some good close racing & a very successful meeting. Hope we can go back next year. Well done and thanks to all involved from Tally & the BRCA. :thumbsup:

[Rossco_4]

Great videos! its nice to see the racing as I couldn't do the nationals this year due to being skint. - first time i've missed a national in 5 years!!!

can't wait for the race report, sure it will be fantastic as usual.

[Lee]

Cool videos, nice one!!!

The straight does look hard work, E's car usually sails over the bumps:o

[millzy]

Another well done to the club, lots of effort gone into the track and while it was very rough the layout was really good.

My only complaint (other than the straight of course) was also the first double in 4wd which I couldn't seem to do for fudge, it seemed to change every lap.

I think the problem with the straight is/was caused by the 8th's running down the banking and slamming into the flat making it washboard. If we'd have had a slow corner at the end of the straight leading onto the banking the bumpy straight wouldn't have been such an issue.

More of the same next year Millzy, except can we go on/off the banking at lower speeds, the impact the cars go through on the transition between the banking and flat was nuts.


I shall keep that in minde for next year- some sort of S or 180 befor it i think

I think with that Doub, ive made the same errorr as i did last year as there wasnt enought room after the down ramp into the corrner , the profile of the up ramp didnt help much as well.

Still I had fun plannig the track and coming up with the layout
It was REALLY nice to see you all in wales again and I want to thank every one who helped out from the club as well as the B.R.C.A

Roll on next year - Glad you all want to come back

Millzy

[Southwell]

I expect a sofa bed next year :thumbsup:

[millzy]

haha - no change might have a fully functioning bathroom and a new kitchen done by then

[Fabs]

bathroom would be very welcome indeed :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

bathroom would be very welcome indeed :thumbsup:

He's talking about his house. :lol:

[millzy]

hahah calm down Fabs i got to build a new straight for the track
not planing on building a new washroom as well lol

Ian kipped at mine this weekend and its now bitching that he had to sleep on an air bed

[Southwell]

Ian kipped at mine this weekend and its now bitching that he had to sleep on an air bed

Im only yanking ya. U'd be sleeping on the hard wood at my place, the cats will get the spare bed.

[millzy]

haha - what tracks or meetings are running that i could kip at costa Southwell

[Chrislong]

http://www.northernracer.com/ Good work Stu on the pictures :thumbsup:

[Southwell]

None lol.

[millzy]

None lol.

you joking - isnt EPR close

[Southwell]

you joking - isnt EPR close

70 mile, but wouldn't travel each day, takes about 90 mins.

[millzy]

70 mile, but wouldn't travel each day, takes about 90 mins.

Id rather practice on my bumpy track than go all that way at 5am

[jimmy]

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/ (http://www.oople.com/forums/../rc/photos/2009national-talywain/)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/4wd/bigimages/OOP_3299.jpg

[David Church]

Great report oOple team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have set a top class standard in reports!!!!!

Thanks for all your hard work!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[DCM]

I knew them pink wheels would get me in the oople pics... nice one Jimmy!!

[Danny McGee]

Good job Boss ;)

[MHeadling]

Great report!! well done oople!! :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

Im loving it. :thumbsup:

[millzy]

love the report

nice to see you had backing for it

[Chris Doughty]

Kev Lee busts some TopGun style moves :thumbsup:
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/OOP_3356.jpg
watch the birdy! :woot:

[bigred5765]

did anyone else see this piccy,and think of thunder birds lol clicky (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/2wd/OOP_1494.html)
nice job on the Tally report,possibly your best so fare,

[Chrislong]

Nope, I thought he had an invisible yoyo.

[millzy]

nah hes doing the moon walk down the straight :):):) )p

[James]

SoOpa DoOpa report, published really quickly too :D

Don't know how the oOple bar was raised again! but it was, great look for 2009, ACE :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[KevLee]

Kev Lee busts some TopGun style moves :thumbsup:
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/OOP_3356.jpg
watch the birdy! :woot:

I was hoping Jimmy had got this one!

I was just "keeping up foreign relations" :D

I actually landed that and kept on going..

[MikePimlott]

did anyone else see this piccy,and think of thunder birds lol clicky (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/2wd/OOP_1494.html)
nice job on the Tally report,possibly your best so fare,

haha, was just putting my hand up so i could ask Jimmy a question :woot:

Excellent report, big thanks to the oOple team. :thumbsup:

[Chrislong]

LOL, do you still put your hand up before you talk? I stopped that when I left school.

[AaronR]

Awesome report Jimmy! These are so fun to read and view the pics, but a 501 with Losi shocks?! :o Originals must have got stolen! :p

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/4wd/OOP_2857.html

[dbizzle5]

4wd vids now on!:thumbsup:

[WHITTLER555]

Awesome report Jimmy! These are so fun to read and view the pics, but a 501 with Losi shocks?! :o Originals must have got stolen! :p

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-talywain/4wd/OOP_2857.html

Losi shocks are the future my friend! A lot of people were running them at the weekend.

[bigred5765]

results are up CLICKY (http://www.onetenthoffroad.co.uk/results.htm)

[blitzboy]

you might want to check that one b to the u to the m to the p bumpage doh

[bigred5765]

works sweet