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bigred5765
20-02-2007, 01:29 AM
i know what it looks like who else does,
and you wont believe the price compared to its counter part
just had a play/ spray with it to, works a treat 100% better than my old one

Chrislong
20-02-2007, 08:27 AM
Cool.
Will it be any better than your existing airbrush? I reckon your work is already damn good, so whatsup with the old airbrush?

DCM
20-02-2007, 10:11 AM
It is a replica of a very expensive airbrush. What fluid nozzle sizes can you get, where from, and how much was it?

telboy
20-02-2007, 10:17 AM
yeah come on spill the beans;)

Looks like an iwata airbrush.

DCM
20-02-2007, 10:26 AM
from where I get my stuff, it is an AB-180 but only got a 0,2mm nozzle, bit small for faskolor, and it is 45+vat

jimmy
20-02-2007, 10:28 AM
.2 !!! :o
I wanted to change my .3mm iwata for a .5mm to get better flowage

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 10:57 AM
OK so its actually called a
AS800 features: and came from those who know me will already know
flea bay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300081221232&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=300078087443&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&usedrule2=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
dcm was the closest and yeh agreed ithink there the same thing as ab180/203

0.23mm nozzle for fine detail with light to medium paints
Hand-fitted and tested matched head system
Gravity-feed with 1/3oz (9ml) cup
Dual-action
Internal-mix
Fine detail to 1" (0.23mm to 25mm) spray pattern
Removable head assembly for easy cleaning
Easy roll top trigger
Body cut-out for easy adjustment of needle packing and lubrication
Crown cap
Highly polished, hardened stainless-steel needle for exceptionally smooth transition from detail to mid-range spraying, the nice thing is the limiter at the back controls how much you can pull back on the trigger. and fire

i only use it with faskolor paints and I'm half way through painting my third car with it,
it sprays faskolor perfect i do thin all my paints slightly with a 50/50 mixture of water and isoproponal alcohol and it works sweet, i thin to about 3/1 paint thinner slight more for really fine work say almost 50/50,
i do agree its a blatant ripoff off the iwata which is kinda why i bought it and its cost less than 30, and disappointing have to say yes its as good as the one that cost 295
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DCM
20-02-2007, 11:19 AM
where do you get isopropnal alchohol from?

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:21 AM
all ab fluid tips and nozzles are inter changeable so if you go to everything airbrush dot com you can buy any size they have and it will fit 2.5 is ideal i think
just had a look and you can get from .2 to .5 from the suction fed ones
gravity fed is the feature

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:22 AM
where do you get isopropnal alcohol from?

any chemist will sell it ya, its the stuff that comes in most CD cleaning sprays

DCM
20-02-2007, 11:22 AM
what size does it come in, and how much, also, do you thin the paint in the bottl or in the hopper?

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:37 AM
what size does it come in, and how much, also, do you thin the paint in the bottle or in the hopper?

i got some empty pots i cleaned out, mix the alcohol and water 50/50 in one of those i then measure out the paint in the gun hopper say 6 drops and then drop in 2 drops of mixture, and mix using something soft so as not to damage the needle/i use a cotton bud with the cotton bit snipped of, works a treat ,try it on the inside of a washed out coke bottle and practise with the thinning till it suits your gun, counting the drops makes it easer to control the mixture instead of just bunging it in,also the more alcohol you use in the mix the quicker it will dry, remember to clean your tip using a cotton bud regular, it does dry out quicker like this, pull back the needle doing this as bent needles are a right pain in the butt.

jimmy
20-02-2007, 11:37 AM
I use tamiya acrylic thinner - probably the same stuff, smells like it is anyway.

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:39 AM
not tryed that one yet, same affect i take it, i like to mix it myself as i can control how much alcohol is in there lol no not for that reason hicup??
but it alters the drying time.
you can get it from 4floz right up to 5 ltrs at out chemist they did how ever look at me wierdly when i ask how much can i buy and ask what i wanted it for,it cost nothing at all to buy

DCM
20-02-2007, 11:43 AM
I got some of that thinner, will give it a bash, does the isopropyl keep the paint pigment from dispersing, unlike using 100% water for thinning?

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:47 AM
yeah it seems to stop the spidering affect you mentioned, you have to reduce your air pressure as well. obviously

DCM
20-02-2007, 11:50 AM
thats ace, as I find the quality or should I say, viscosity of paint varies quite a bit, black is the best, and oddly, I find white, the worst, as it always seems to spray more powdery rather than a fluid.

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 12:15 PM
you can also get a retarder to slow the drying process from createx,which helps the white spray out better.

andys
20-02-2007, 12:47 PM
Looks like a bargain that airbrush.

Carl, what kind of compressor do you use, would any of the cheap ones on this guys site be ok ? Cheers. Andy.

PS. I use some great stuff made by Badger, called 'Spray-Away' airbrush cleaner, not sure what's in it, but is sure as hell cleans ANYTHING, out of the airbrush, highly reccomended.

DCM
20-02-2007, 12:54 PM
Faskolor cleans out easily just with water, the spray head normal needs a wipe around, and thats it.

Is there somewhere that sells the createx stuff individualy (and is it Createx Classic)

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 02:05 PM
sorry for the link again jimmy hope this helps someone out there
you can get everything you need here there ace fast postage to
http://www.everythingairbrush.com/acatalog/Automotive_Paint.html
Andy i just bought one of the cheap things from b&q 60 http://www.gardenandleisureuk.co.uk/index.cfm?sid=10007&pid=153431&item=18111
work a treat but noise as hell

Body Paint
20-02-2007, 08:24 PM
I use everything airbrush .com since Steve recomended them, I assumed you already got your paint there Steve:wtf: .

The auto air reducer works well although I bought the fast dry one and it dry fapping quick in the noozle :rolleyes:

The airbrush cleaner is bob on aswell.

RED: You got a link to where you got that airbush? I am using an Aztek at the mo, an ace brush but it's an internal mix job and the paint drys up in the tip every 20 seconds or so when you are doing details... SO annoying.

EDIT: Just noticed you already posted the link.. Tsshhh LOL

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 09:19 PM
we started of with the Aztec one, its OK but we have 4 different ones now and have to say for the money this one is way out in front

Body Paint
20-02-2007, 09:37 PM
OK, AS800 is on it's way ;)

28.90 bargain

Ta Red!

shinytopman
20-02-2007, 10:10 PM
where do you get isopropnal alchohol from?

:p Married to a chemistry teacher......:)

Body Paint
20-02-2007, 11:13 PM
So what youa are saying is that your wife steals isopropnal alchohol from young defensless children? Tut Tut... :D :D How can you marry such a monster:p

:p Married to a chemistry teacher......:)

bigred5765
20-02-2007, 11:15 PM
:p Married to a chemistry teacher......:)

hmm you sound like a very nice man,a veryvery nice man
see you at york or worksop will i ??


Body Paint OK, AS800 is on it's way

28.90 bargain

Ta Red
your welcome hope it helps,if you need anything else im only a pm away lol
everything airbrush stocks em under as180 parts fit from all the other as branded guns fluid tips from .2 to .5 2.5 comes in the gun its fine

DCM
21-02-2007, 01:08 AM
I use everything airbrush .com since Steve recomended them, I assumed you already got your paint there Steve:wtf: .

The auto air reducer works well although I bought the fast dry one and it dry fapping quick in the noozle :rolleyes:

The airbrush cleaner is bob on aswell.

RED: You got a link to where you got that airbush? I am using an Aztek at the mo, an ace brush but it's an internal mix job and the paint drys up in the tip every 20 seconds or so when you are doing details... SO annoying.

EDIT: Just noticed you already posted the link.. Tsshhh LOL

Every time I read it, I read that you had to buy paint kits, so never bothered, will have a look tomorrow.

shinytopman
21-02-2007, 08:07 PM
So what youa are saying is that your wife steals isopropnal alchohol from young defensless children? Tut Tut... :D :D How can you marry such a monster:p


LOL.....No but it comes nice and cheap from the old school suppliers ;)