How loud is a 10th Buggy?

[Lee Martin]

Hi all,

Anyone out there know how loud in DB a 1/10th electric buggy is?
I also need spec sheets to prove this if possible?

Thanks

Lee

[AmiSMB]

I would talk to Alan Dell as he usually will have the kit to test. He is responsible for testing the noise levels at 8th tracks so I am sure he can help you and he is your 8th pit man's dad.

[DCM]

this definately sounds like the sort of stupid stuff the council want to know.... :(

[panch]

Lee,

It might be an idea to email the main motor manufacturers as they will probably be able to send you some sort of spec sheets.

Then you could collate them and forward on to the council, I would imagine that having the manufacturer stats would add a bit of assurance.

Lee

[AmiSMB]

That is a good idea but the electric motor is quite quiet when not in a car. It is the noise of the gears / belt(s) that can give that extra bit of noise and sometimes I find that a body shell can seem to amplify it a little. Bloomin red tape council rubbish!

[telboy]

Is this because the ramblers could get the track closed as it was on your land? So now they're trying to use the noise levels as a way of stoping you pidge?

Some people need to get a life.:mad:

[millzy]

oh come on - please dont tell me this is true-

you have to give noise levals for a 10th buggy
that is Silly- no wait its F- ing Stupid

we had the council do a DB test at tally ( Nitros) and they guy was on the lane that leads up to the golf House and asked us to start the cars- the reply was they have been runnig for 10 mins mate.

[showtime]

my Pred made a bit of a racket when i used a very low turn motor in it :wtf:

[DCM]

oh come on - please dont tell me this is true-

you have to give noise levals for a 10th buggy
that is Silly- no wait its F- ing Stupid

unfortunately, when you try to describe what we do, there are lots who don't understand, and as it is a form of racing, expect it to be noisey.

Might just be worth hiring a chap who does audiometric and noise pollution testing, get a gang of you ripping round the track, allow him to write his report, and send it to the council.

[Southwell]

Belt drive FTW! The most noise pollution will come from the tyres imo.

[RogerM]

Usually the PA is the noise that carries most as the human ear is designed to pick this out.

Might be worth getting some tests done as my bet is that it'll be the non car related noise that causes the biggest objection.

[JJ The Boat Wizzard]

THIS IS SO SO SO SO Stupid Were running stupidly quite electric buggys and they complain it not likely that the buggys are going to be over the council limit of 100Db ( Correct Me If Im Wrong With The Limit) Whoever Is Reporting You Needs To GET A LIFE!

[MiCk B.]

I would hope the council limit is way below 190dB. That far above dangerous levels.

http://vancouver.ca/engsvcs/projects/soundsmart/images/dbScale2-2-2.jpg

I would imagine that rc cars would be in the 70 - 80 dB (max). At a guess I would imagine that most of that 'noise' would be from associated sources, PA system for race control, people around the track etc.


MiCk B. :-)


THIS IS SO SO SO SO Stupid Were running stupidly quite electric buggys and they complain it not likely that the buggys are going to be over the council limit of 190Db ( Correct Me If Im Wrong With The Limit) Whoever Is Reporting You Needs To GET A LIFE!

[Northy]

I was just about to post that 190dB would probably instantly make you deaf! :o

I used to work in the noise measurement industry, if you pay someone to do it for you it will probably cost a lot of money. If you do it yourself you might not be able to prove you did it right - you can't just turn on a noise meter and point it at something, everything has to be measured as per the applicable standard.

I'd ask whoever it is asking you exactly what measurement they want, and to quote you the National Standard number so that you can obviously measure the noise correctly - this might just be enough for them to conveniently forget about it as they don't know the standard themselves :lol:

G

[millzy]

I would hope the council limit is way below 190dB. That far above dangerous levels.

http://vancouver.ca/engsvcs/projects/soundsmart/images/dbScale2-2-2.jpg

I would imagine that rc cars would be in the 70 - 80 dB (max). At a guess I would imagine that most of that 'noise' would be from associated sources, PA system for race control, people around the track etc.


MiCk B. :-)

DC isnt that Loud to be fair-

[DaveG28]

As people say noisiest stuff will be PA etc, and I would assume it's hours of use you have to watch. Some 1:1 race tracks can't start until a certain time etc on certain days and have to finish at 6pm Sundays. As far as I remember though, noise is only an issue for residents, not ramblers/passers by?

However, and I know this won't be a popular view, but I know running an electric 10th buggy on tarmac can wake someone in a house @50 yards away with their windows shut, as I got shouted at for it once during a late night test!! So it's sensible for the council to ask if it's around hours of use. And bluntly guys, why would they know it's quiet if they don't know the hobby!?!?:confused:

[Darren Boyle]

Hi all,

Anyone out there know how loud in DB a 1/10th electric buggy is?
I also need spec sheets to prove this if possible?

Thanks

Lee

Lee, I seriuosly hope what everyone is thinking on here is not true....that it is your local coucil asking for this for the track purposes, since if they are that is plain bloody bonkers mate...........

Take your SC8 round to their office's, if that is the case and rag that around right outside their office window all day to p%$* them off, when they tell you to bugger off and use "that thing" somwhere more quiet and away from them, tell them that you cant...they are trying to close the venue down (even for the quiet "toys" never mind the noisier ones)

[dave g]

im pretty sure i saw this asked before somewhere and it was about 65 db.

[Spoolio]

Totally agree with what everyone on here has already posted BUT (playing devils advocate here) what if he only wants to know to win a bet in the pub :lol:. We've all gone Health & Safety mad!

[Lee Martin]

health and safety mad yes! but Darren is correct. its for planning!

[Darren Boyle]

That is insane mate.......

[RudeTony]

Lee and others.
Take this from someone that knows about planning and for track permission.
Do whatever and I mean whatever they want.....it's the only way you and the track gets what is needed.
Once you got it then you can tell them to f******** right off BUT not before hand dude.
If you need my help then it will be my pleasure
God!!! I have all this to come AGAIN

[deepdale11]

I'm not sure if this will help but if anybody has a iphone there is an app called Decibel which uses the mic to read decibels!

[James]

Lee just something to bear in mind - We had another business on the farm years ago, it ran for abour 20 years and was a proper viable concern with £thousands involved and 5 properties, anyway someone complained about noise so we had numerous independant sound levels tested and we actually went to court 7 times to defend the business, in the end someone against it stated that a dripping tap was not loud but could be one of the most annoying sounds possible, we lost the courtcase and lots of money so a word to the wise dont cling onto sounds levels as its not the be all and end all, we also had lots of charity events at the site but they didnt seem to care. Gimme a bell if i can be of help think youve got my no? We had full planning for the site mentioned above before it was constructed by the way, they are a law unto themselves. The council also cpo'd a load of barns of ours and built a road through them, two people have now been killed in rta's on that bit of road but thats another story :thumbdown:.
Goood luck with it.

[wacattack]

AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I GET SOOOOOOO ANGRY HEARING STUFF LIKE THIS. WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST GET A GRIP AND CONCNETRATE ON COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ADVOCATING BUILDING THINGS THAT KEEP PEOPLE OCCUPIED. DAMN STUPID GGRRRRRRRRRR. IM GOING TO STOP NOW OR I'LL SAY SOMETHING I REGRET

[PTRU]

Lee
have a word with Tony his Gran is an official noise tester for the MSA.

[Bungleaio]

Lee and others.
Take this from someone that knows about planning and for track permission.
Do whatever and I mean whatever they want.....it's the only way you and the track gets what is needed.
Once you got it then you can tell them to f******** right off BUT not before hand dude.
If you need my help then it will be my pleasure
God!!! I have all this to come AGAIN

This man speaks sense, the planning department will put up loads of hoops for you to jump thorough, there's no short cuts and if they refuse appeal and take it higher.

To be fair to them I can see why they are asking for dB levels, you are proposing a race track in what I presume is a residential area, if they grant you permission and you exceed them then the council can shut you down. The way they have to see it is the enjoyment of some must not effect the enjoyment for others.

[mikeyscott]

This man speaks sense, the planning department will put up loads of hoops for you to jump thorough, there's no short cuts and if they refuse appeal and take it higher.

To be fair to them I can see why they are asking for dB levels, you are proposing a race track in what I presume is a residential area, if they grant you permission and you exceed them then the council can shut you down. The way they have to see it is the enjoyment of some must not effect the enjoyment for others.

Keeping themselves in a job like every other waste of space civil servant

[AmiSMB]

Keeping themselves in a job like every other waste of space civil servant

Should we ask to take a look at their expenses?

[i4n]

you are proposing a race track in what I presume is a residential area

Never been there but have seen it on Google Earth - it's in the middle of nowhere! It's quite a good image too.

Keeping themselves in a job like every other waste of space civil servant

Hey, some of us aren't a waste of space you know :thumbsup:

[mikeyscott]

Never been there but have seen it on Google Earth - it's in the middle of nowhere! It's quite a good image too.



Hey, some of us aren't a waste of space you know :thumbsup:

Granted

[Martin-Barbour]

As Northy said, you'll need to find out exactly what they want recorded, to what standard, over what period and you'll probably need ambient recordings without the RC action as a comparison.

I work with a company who do this professionally for stadiums and arenas, I may be able to persuade them to help out on the cheap so drop me a note if you need....

Mart

[Lee Martin]

Cheers for all help guys....

Will get onto it!

Yeh, theres not really many people that live near me!!! you could easily hold a party and not be heard let alone a RC race.

[burgie]

For what it is worth, I "measured" the decibel level of the srcc gp yesterday using my iPhone. I measured the level at various times of the day, and I understand that the readings won't be 100% accurate but the noise peaked at 84db when the start buzzer went off but the average figure for a 5 minute race was 64db.