Working set-ups?

[SimonW]

Has anybody got remotely near something sensible set-up wise yet? :scratch:

[trekkker]

hi there simon, Nathan Ralls here using trekkers pc, we have been doing loads of racing of late ie up to 3 times a week to get good base set ups for most sufaces so give me a couple of weeks to finalise things and i will be able to post safe easy to drive setups for high and low grip tracks, if you are going to tivvy this weekend i can post what stuart and i will be starting with to give you a starting point.

cheers
Nathan Ralls

[SimonW]

Yes please, I've gone back to kit camber links 35f and 25r oils with AE blues all round if it's too hard i will go to AE silvers. all inside on the top shock mounts and inside(f) outside(r) bottom shock positions, removed the shim for rear anti-squat aswell rest is as kit.Still using centre 1-way, may go for 10deg front carriers for sunday.

[niggs98]

no worries i will post it after tivvy once we have checked it there m8

[trekkker]

hi guys as requested here is the setup both nathan and i ran at tiverton on sunday

front
toe in 1deg
camberlink long
camber 1deg
10 deg front hubs
no shims under d pivot point,
shocks,
40wt
pistons drilled 2x 1.5
springs orange
la43 3mm removed
no limiter
shock mount outer hole at top
on wishbone on inner hole,

rear
la232 universal swing shaft
camberlink short on the inside long on the outside with kit washer
kit hole on hub
toe-in block a30
no 3 shim under front pivot block for anti squat
no sway bar

shocks
30wt oil
2x 1.5 drilled pistons
yellow springs

additional notes

76 spur gear 17 pinion 10x2
wing mounted central holes with max angle,full gurney flap
la43 is the bottom shock ball joint used on the front ball joint to create more droop we cut approx 3mm off of this so the car bottoms out before the shock does
weights 30gms on the chassis by the motor and 15 gms on the servo
cells in rear position

thanks stuart and nathan

[trekkker]

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[FBR]

hey guys i found a basic setup sheet on the x-5 website and it'll work for now if anyone wants to use it.
travis
http://www.4wdrc.com/File0001.pdf

[nick oliver]

The link anit working for me :(

[jimmy]

I fixed it, but.... uhmmm.. this is a setup sheet for the X-5 not the ZX-5 ! hey, confusing i know.

everyone likes the letters Z and X with a random number.. is there no originality left !!! :D

[FBR]

no iknow it's an x-5 setup sheet but it is basic enough to be useful so i thought i'd pass it along so anyone that wanted to use it could :D
travis

[jimmy]

oops sorry i should have read your message better! :lol:

[FBR]

no worries just trying to help

[tony1034]

I spoke to one of the KyoshoUSA drivers the other day and they all have ZX-5's and racing them. If they don't post a setup sheet soon, I'll try to get it. The setup will be for a US off-road track though, so it'll be different than what you guys may run in the UK.

Tony P.

[trekkker]

thanks tony it would be much apreciated, the set up above is for low grip rutty dirt so pass it on please

[jimmy]

ran the zx5 on sunday at bury metro, wanted to keep running it as it was getting very good. Put the #75 yellow springs on the rear 35wt, and blue AE springs 40wt front.
short link on the front,
short outside and middle inside link on the back raised with 2 washers on the camber plate.

I didnt have the tyres to compete with the other guys in the rain though.

[tony1034]

I asked Mark Pavidas what setup he was running on the ZX-5, but he doesn't have the car back yet. Still waiting on setup info from two other US drivers, but here is what Mark posted on the S-grid ......

Tony P.



#7599 of 7600 by Mark Pavidis (rcmark) on Wed Dec 14 16:55:04 2005:

Tony - the last time I ran the car was at the worlds and I cant
remember the settup. My car is still in Japan at Kyosho but Kyosho
America sent me a kit to build up. This is what I remember

Front:
- Yellow spring
- 400w kyosho oil
- large hole piston
- 10 deg caster blocks
- Middle hole in tower
- inside hole in the arm
- One way
- front ride height arms level

Rear:
- Blue springs (close to yellow rate)
- 350w kyosho oil
- large hole piston
- middle hole in tower (shocks)
- outside hole in arm (not sure on this one)

[jimmy]

nice one tony!

[BluesFan]

Tony, I frequent the grid myself, but I can't find this thread about the ZX-5. Can you direct me to it? Thanks for posting the setup info though. Looks like I've got some springs to order. I wonder if Kyosho has fixed the short front spring problem yet?

[SimonW]

if you go to the orion site and look in old news at the world champs report there are photo's of mark's car, you can see wot springs and camber links he used at the worlds, BUT remember that they had control tyres

[tony1034]

Tony, I frequent the grid myself, but I can't find this thread about the ZX-5. Can you direct me to it? Thanks for posting the setup info though. Looks like I've got some springs to order. I wonder if Kyosho has fixed the short front spring problem yet?

If you go to the main page on the grid, go to the electric forums. They have the ZX-5 thread over there.

On another note, there have been some rumors going around the Kyosho camp regarding Kortz, Cavaliere and Tebo, as well as the team manager, Regan Leblanc. From the sound of it, there may not be many factory boys racing the electrics :(. But rumors are rumors until they've been cleared by someone with the "know".

I have to get in touch with Scott Cramer of MaxSpeedDesigns.com for more Tony's Screws decals. I know he has the ZX5 and was going to work on getting the car setup for the indoor tracks out there where he lives at (OH/IL). He also said that David Joor from Avid Bearings was running a ZX5. These two guys are hard core on-road guys that really know their stuff when it comes to setups. Hopefully they have the car figured out so I know what option parts to get for my ZX5 when I get it here in a few weeks.

There is a HUGE Indoor race in Ohio in 3 weeks as well ...CRCRC The electrics are the first week and then Nitro the second. I'm going to the Nitro race to race my MBX5 and MSR X5T. But I look forward to some guys running the ZX5 for the electric series, posting their setups too.

I just got an email from my buddy that he got in a few ZX5's. Killer price too! Just need to wait a week or so before ordering it (my wife would blow a gasket if I got it now after spending how much on X-mas ....lol :lol:

Best regards,

Tony P.

[Tres]

Tony,

I will be at the CRCRC electric race with my ZX-5.....

I will post any set-up updates I have from it.

The local track is a high traction clay also....

So, I will see what I can come up from it also....

[tony1034]

Cool 8)

Thanks Tres!

I just spoke to my buddy Leo and he just ordered a ZX-5 himself. He runs at the indoor track at Wolcott, CT. He said there are like five ZX-5's there now and catching on :). That's where I'm going to go to race my ZX-5 after I get back from the Gas Champs at CRCRC. If I can get some setup info from Leo or the guys there, I'll post it here.

Ordered the ZX-5 last night from my buddy :D

Now to find the best deal on the Novak brushless systems. If anyone know who has the best deal going, please post away ...lol :lol:

Tony P.

[nick oliver]

Well just tryed Kyosho out tonite at oswestry but its on carpet :(
well anyway it went better than i expected its pettry much kit set up only things a changed was 50w front ass gold springs (cut down) kit pistons REAR i think it was round 35w ass slivers,
Only other thing i changed was outer hole at bottom on front (much more stable) An what i am going to change for sunday, ABout 2mm limiters in rear shocks anit roll bar on rear and gunna try some smaller piston holes on front shocks and maybe move top shock in 1 hole on fronts. From there i a hoping that set up should not be too far away hopefully lol :lol: Nick.

[jimmy]

Good luck mate, as soon as you get it sorted indoors we'll be back outdoors ! lol

[BluesFan]

Hey Tony, as you've probably noticed I've found the thread on the grid. I was supposed to take some pics of my electronics arrangement with the GTB setup inside the car, but I forgot to last night. I'll try to remember this evening. Oh, btw, Tower has a deal right now for 25$ off a 150$ or more purchase. That's about as cheap as you'll find the GTB+motor combo. As I mentioned on the grid, I've got the 6.5 system and it is blazing fast. Can't wait to see someone with the 5.5.

Hope you guys have fun at the CRCRC race. I really really really wanted to go, but I just don't have the time nor money to go to such a race. :cry: Columbus is about a 7-8 hour drive from St. Louis. It would have been nice to meet you and Tres in person. I'm sure sometime within the next year or so we'll end up at the same race.

[nick oliver]

Good luck mate, as soon as you get it sorted indoors we'll be back outdoors ! lol
LOL i was thinking the exact same thing lol :lol: But i will try at few kiddy rounds hopfully.

[tony1034]

Got my ZX-5 yesterday :)

Decided on getting the Novak GTB 6.5 brushless setup for the car. I'm going to use my son's GP3300 packs in it for now until I can do a little more research on the LiPo options. Will probably pick up a few IB3800 packs for it as well but not in a rush just yet.

I won't have time to build the car until after the CRCRC indoor nitro gas champs next week/weekend. Just have too much to do before leaving. I still have to put my MSR back together and haven't even touched the MBX5 yet. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of wrenching this weekend ...LOL

Tony P.

[tony1034]

By the way ...What's the part number for the Associated balls that everyone is using?

Thanks,

Tony P.

[Tres]

I didn't get to run my ZX5 due to a
couple of the guys with me running
them had lots of braking issues....
Practice was very hard on 4wheels.

And ran out of spare parts.

I didn't want to get stuck with out any part support.
I ran my BJ4 instead.....

But, I plan on running my ZX5 for a lot of testing in the next few weeks.

The CRCRC track was a little different dirt and had a fine layer of dust on the top.

New taper pins worked ok as did some other tires.
But, the normal, wore out pink tapers did not hook up well.

I should have the set-up from the guys who ran it this week.
They only made a few basic changes for the most part.
(camber length & top shock tower placement)

[tony1034]

I got back from CRCRC early yesterday morning. The 8-hour drive home in the rain sucked ....LOL

I had a good time. Didn't do that well in 1/8th scale but my MSR X5T was dialed with the new wide arm suspension. Unfortunately a computer glitch put me in the wrong main (should have been in the bottom of the C, top of the D) and it was too late to fix it. I had my hands full with the drivers in the F-main and missed the bump finishing 4th. Seven minutes wasn't long enough especially getting caught up in the first turn pile up and then waiting 10 seconds for a marshal later in the race :(

Watching the Pros run was amazing though. Drake was blazing fast, as was Mayfield, Lutz, Ashton, Smolnik and Saxton. It was great meeting all these guys and hanging out with them. I was totally blown away with everyone's hospitality and kind words towards Tonys Screws. I learned a lot this past weekend running indoors and look forward to the upcoming off-road season more than ever :)

The ZX-5 build should start this weekend. I just need to order a few option parts and my GTB system. Just waiting for Kendall Bennett of Amainhobbies to put everything up on his website.

Tony P.

[tony1034]

Just got back from the 19th Annual Winter Midwest Champs at CRCRC in Columbus, OH. I had alot of issues with the hinge pin brace and the front tower brace snapping, but all of those problems will be solved shortly.

As far as setup goes, I was able to test alot of different things.

The track we were running on was a low bite loose track ( a good groove, just not alot of traction). We ran full pin Pink Taper pins front and rear, stock foams.

Right off the bat with the stock setup the car pushed alot, traction wise it was ok ( forward ) but just no steering. After several battery packs, I ended up going to this

FRONT: Kyosho #2 pistons ( stock ), Losi 30wt oil, Losi dark Green front buggy springs, 1-C camber link ( farthest outside whole on the tower block ). -1 camber, 0 toe in. Shock inside on the A-arm, middle whole on the tower. Front one-way.

REAR: Kyosho # #2-b? ( stock) ( I don't have my manual on me, the stock rear pistons ) pistons, AE 35wt oil, Losi Pink rear buggy spring, Stock camber link on the tower block, middle on the Hub, Hubs forward, Shock on the inside on the A-arm, second whole down from the top on the tower. Battery in the rear, Front One Way, ride height set at bones level.

This made the car feel very stable, and at the same time having plenty of steering. My laps were right there with Robbers, Maifield, Cavalieri, Hodapp ect.. ( Robbers had the fastest of a 17.3, my fastest was a 17.8 ) so in other words the car is right there in the way of being competitive.

Tres can vouche (sp), he was there and liked how the car handled. If you or any one have any questions please feel free to post here, or e-mail me at benellis34@hotmail.com

-Ben Ellis



Ben posted this setup on the rctech.net forum. Figured I'd post it here.

[tony1034]

Just got back from the Electric R/C Pro Series Round 1 Midwest. There were 4 ZX-5's in in 4wd Modified A-main. Team Losi driver Bradon Rohde TQ'ed, with my Kyosho teamate Scott Cramer qualifing second, then Dayton Miller then myself in 4th, and Young Derek Gillen qualifing in the 5th.

After an early bobble by Rohde, slowing down Cramer and Miller, I was able to take the lead and never look back. Rohde made several runs at me but was unable to put it together. After 6 minutes, I took the win, with Rohde in 2nd. I am not sure of the final finishing order, but pictures and results should be posted on R/C Pro Series website, and on Planet R/C's. So Kyosho takes an early lead in the Midwest.


Here is my setup from the race:

FRONT: Kyosho (stock Front) pistons, Losi 30wt oil, Losi dark Green front buggy springs, 1-C camber link (farthest outside whole on the tower block). -1 camber, 0 toe in. Shock inside on the A-arm, middle whole on the tower.

REAR: Kyosho ( stock rear) pistons, AE 35wt oil, Losi Pink rear buggy spring, Stock camber link on the tower block, middle on the Hub, Hubs forward, Shock on the inside on the A-arm, second whole down from the top on the tower.

Battery in the rear, Front One Way, ride height set at just slightly above bones level. I also moved the ball stud in the front steering spindals to the rear whole. This seemed to keep the car from wandering. I didn't have time, but I would have also liked to have tried moving the shocks in one whole on the front tower, this should also help to keep the car from wandering.

I used Team Losi pink taper pins, front and rear. Trinity bomb 1 grey in the rear, Losi stock foams up front. Both front and rear dremmeld down about 90 percent. I haven't had a chance to run the Kyosho springs yet, but I will soon and will update my setup with them in place.

-Ben Ellis


Ben posted this setup yesterday on rctech.net.

Tony P.

[tony1034]

Hi Guys,

Scott Cramer posted his setup from the Pro Series race on rctech.net as well......


Here is my set-up from the first round of the RC Pro Series at Planet RC. It was a very high traction track where we ran just about slicks. It's different from Ben's (I think because of my onroad driving stlye) I stuck with all Kyosho springs. Any questions, feel free to ask.

http://rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=118437



Figured you guys might like to have it :)

Tony P.

[Shadow]

hey guys.. sorry if this has been covered prior.. but im looking for a setup to run on our dusty / sandy tracks here in Sunny Ol Perth (Australia)

the track is a big track, with 2 straights and a few jumps. its a wide track. Surface can be a bit sandy if you go offline, otherwise, its a clay hardpack type surface... and quite smooth (not blown out and rutted)


i just got a box stock zx-5, probably gonna be running the standard silver springs... i got some AE B4 shocks... perhaps they will fit?

Any tips / help will be appreciated! cheers,