Any new info??

[samd]

Anyone know more???:eh?:

[nitrokillah]

http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899907.jpg

http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899910.jpg


http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899905.jpg

http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899911.jpg


http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899908.jpg


http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090616_899903.jpg

Source : Tresrey

[samd]

That looks mint!

[schmacher]

do the words "you suck" mean anything to you ? i'm jealous

[stegger]

Where are those pic's from :drool: looked on the tresrey site but can't find them, are there anymore build pic's :D

[bender]

Here:

http://tresrey.jugem.jp/

[c0sie]

Damn....that Durango makes my willy tingle...

[plantpot]

it does look good, i race rally x and even i fancy having ago with one these,
beautiful bit kit

[mikeyscott]

Time to see if next month's callout can fund this..

I like the look of it!

[stegger]

I'm relieved it looks like my Futaba 2.4 ghz reciever fits with no issue with the speed passion speedo :D i was a bit worried that i may have to swop to spektrum:)

[Lee]

Do people think it will live up to the hype?

I am concerned that this car has only been seen in the hands of some of the worlds best and they could win with anything.

It's an old design now and one that was designed around heavy cells, now we have lipo, is the narrow chassis going to generate enough grip?

I cant deny it looks fantastic from an engineering point of view but is it really going to set the world alight? For starters in the UK they have no top drivers that are going to win a national. Everyone who could is already signed up for 09.

By 2010 they may have missed the boat and people could have lost interest. :eh?:

[stegger]

You could say that about the Aero as well Lee, weather it was lack of support or parts availability the Aero died a death :eh?: I hope Durango do get the support side right but time will tell. It does bother me that there's no distributor in the UK yet, maybe Durango are just trying to make a killing on initial sales to recoupe on development costs.

[stegger]

What's old about it, oil filled diffs have not been used in 1/10th competition that i'm aware. Ease of maintenance look's good, Slipper removal looks really easy, not sure what it was like on the Aero.:)

[Lee]

The aero was pretty poor in a lot of ways if im truthful, i spent literally days in the garage trying to make things right on it.

I mean the design in general is old now, at least 5 years old anyway. I think the only time we will se if the durango is any good is when joe bloggs gets one, its ok hara and co running one because they are inch perfect but give it to a retard and we will see if its any good. :lol:

Geared diffs haven't been used as far as i know either but does it mean they will be any better? time will tell

Oh there is a distributor, i just haven't told you who it is yet ;)

[JohnM]

I mean the design in general is old now, at least 5 years old anyway.


I don't see that being a problem, you could say the same about the B44, as thats only a copy of the BJ4, and thats been around for sometime now, plus a XX4 can still win (if the belts hold up), and thats 12 years old now:wtf:

At the end of the day, if it doesn't work, its going to look nice sitting on the shelf:D

[MattW]

You have to give them a lot of credit for the way the car looks. Is it an old design?? No not really. An old "concept" possibly. That said, the xx4 is the oldest of them all ;):eh?:

A lot depends on how the "rally x ideas" cross over into the electric world. Diffs - are they too heavy?? Shocks - will the rubber covers create any stiction? I don't know!!

There is no doubt in my mind, that the Durango cars that Gurd was hand producing were the best cars of their time. What we don't know is how this one will compare to that car. Personally i think this car will be competitive, how competitive, we don't know!

A lot depends on how the distribution chain pans out. As it stands from what we have seen on the internet, it looks like it's direct sales only - but at least that is within UK from a UK "distributor".

[mark christopher]

i dont think suport will be an issue i know one UK driver and he suports his current brand 100% in promoting and helping others.
dont see spares being an issue either, from what im told

[GRIFF55]

You could say, put any car in the right drivers hands and it will win, even the smaller makes. My opinion is that the car has alot of neat features on it that will be interesting to see if they work on uk tracks. As Matt said, it looks like there will be uk support from what the website says, durango uk. I hope so as i have been looking forward to this release since the begining.
Slim cars still work well too, look at robbo in the nats, he has good results with the atomic as have a few others.

I wish them all the best and can't wait to get one, the more cars/brands available the merrier:thumbsup:

[Lee]

I agree with what Matt and Andy are saying, we don't know how the bits that are new will work. I don't think the car will be bad at all i am just not taken in by the hype surrounding it, it is beautiful though !!

The xx4 and the Bj4 were new designs when they were released, it just so happens they stood the test of time. Maybe the durango will make another step forward, we really dont know.

[Northy]

......give it to a retard and we will see if its any good. :lol:


Is Jim running the oOple review car? :eh?:

G

[Northy]

Maybe the durango will make another step forward, we really dont know.

A XX4 front end and a B4 rear end..... been done soooooo many times before :lol::lol:

Car does look really nice though, and it's nice to see another chassis. I hope it does work and they do well :-)

G

[footey]

i dont think suport will be an issue i know one UK driver and he suports his current brand 100% in promoting and helping others.
dont see spares being an issue either, from what im told



who is the 1 uk driver for durango

[bigred5765]

I know, but I'm sworn to secrecy lol. all will be reveled real soon,

[mark christopher]

sorry same as big red........................... wen the time comes all will be revealed

[stegger]

Is it the same one who was going to run the S500 :D

[mark christopher]

who is the 1 uk driver for durango

there will be more than one !!

[Darren Boyle]

I would hope so..... 1 car on the track would not be very rewarding for Durango !!!! :woot:

[Lee]

there will be more than one !!

But how soon and are they capable of winning a national, the only one i know of is not even doing nats this year :eh?:

No top driver i know of will change mid season or 8 weeks before the euros ;)

[James]

I think there are 3 so far? :confused:

And i know of one or two that are interested....

But as stated maybe no huge changes until the end of the season..
By the way Worksop indoors starts in September - thats only 2 months!! this outdoor season seems to be zooming by and it doesnt feel like we've even got going yet :eh?:

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Shameless plug there James.:D

[JohnM]

No top driver i know of will change mid season or 8 weeks before the euros ;)

Unless the car he is driving now is rubbish;)

And changing mid season, or 8 weeks before the Euros doesn't matter to the top lads, look at Neil last year, hadn't seen the B-Max till the start of the meeting, didn't seem to stop him winning then.

Whoes to say that one of the top lads, doesn't already have a Durango, that they're having some fun with behind closed doors.

[Chris Doughty]

it does matter if their contract is for the 2009 season

[bigred5765]

because i guess most are tied in to a tight contract,and cant or wont leave,and neil didnt change firms just cars,

[JohnM]

because i guess most are tied in to a tight contract,and cant or wont leave,and neil didnt change firms just cars,

I know Neil didn't change firms, but my point was that it doesn't matter to people like him when they change cars, they'll still do well, even if its very new to them, like the B-Max is compared to the BX, that would be much the same as swapping to the Durango from something else, as long as theyget the support they need, like Yokomo gave Neil last year.

As for contracts, do they all run round at the start of the year saying how long they're deal still has to run? Maybe someone is out of contract right now.

[Lee]

Neil also had the BX at the euros and tried them back to back, he wasn't stuck with the car he had a choice.

Most contracts will run till the end of the year ish, but they will all see out the summer including euros and worlds. There is at least one company that i know of that if you dont sign the next years contract you cannot claim last seasons bonuses. If it totals up to 15-20k it can be pretty hard to walk away ;)

[shanks]

Just totally out of interest here - but what sort of cash do the top guys earn in this sport?

any ideas always wondered and as yet not read - or heard much...

post above this mentions 15-20k in bonuses? so i guess the contract is worth more..

ps...neil cragg has nothing to worry about - i wont be challenging him this yr at least !!!!

[Lee]

I don't think anyone will tell you what they earn, would you tell people over a forum what you earned last year?

[stegger]

Just totally out of interest here - but what sort of cash do the top guys earn in this sport?

any ideas always wondered and as yet not read - or heard much...

post above this mentions 15-20k in bonuses? so i guess the contract is worth more..

ps...neil cragg has nothing to worry about - i wont be challenging him this yr at least !!!!
Like they are going to answer that :woot::woot::woot: Over to b-mag for the answer :p
I think i'm right in thinking that neil changed to the B44 at the turn of the year, so this back's up what lee is saying about contract turms, what happened with BJ though is anybodies guess :lol: (joke)

[Rebelrc]

MattW this cars looks a better car than the old 2005 prototypes
believe me they are a little basic and shims here and washers/pins there but good performers....i am joe public and ive been bouncing mine off of local village hall walls for about 4 years and have never had such a geniunley fast car and now its a bit worn i cannot look at or drive anything else they all feel agricultural compared with the durango....:)

this is a much better car than the prototypes
and Lee it isnt an old design in fact one of the newest in 1/10th offroad and has never been able to show its full potential in the hands of the public or top level
oh and Lee the fact that the new car runs lipo's shouldnt be a factor as you add the weight back where it should be

[Lee]

has never been able to show its full potential in the hands of the public or top level
oh and Lee the fact that the new car runs lipo's shouldnt be a factor as you add the weight back where it should be


Are you sure it has never been able to show its full potential? Didn't Hara have a bash with one, you know the little fella that has Multiple Worlds trophies?

I dont dispute that weight can be added all i said was that the original car was designed round heavy cells which will add stability but also generate more roll/grip in the turns

[Rebelrc]

Yes i have hara's old car / pinish
but no driver realy of that caliber ran it for long just a quick outing then back to Gerd
yes your right lee with out adding weight it would probably be weird
but we never know....gerds clever
i think i can say that Gerds design practises are ace and this car will be first class ,fully tested...no probs at all

[Lee]

Yes i have hara's old car / pinish
but no driver realy of that caliber ran it for long just a quick outing then back to Gerd
yes your right lee with out adding weight it would probably be weird
but we never know....gerds clever
i think i can say that Gerds design practises are ace and this car will be first class ,fully tested...no probs at all

I do agree with you Gerd is a genius and the car is a masterpiece, if it comes as it looks in the pics.

I think i will send you a pm mr rebel, i may a have a project for you ;)

[Rebelrc]

PM away:)

[Rebelrc]

To me the new car looks as good as the famous prototypes but much more refined...not at all compromised though......just easier to work on/maintain/durability/SENSE!
i personaly think this car will be quicker due to the odd mm here and there that has been added/shaved in the optomum directions determined by the old prototype project (Hara/Newman/Pinish/honigl/Reinhard/clauss/drescher/pavadis.etc):D
the old cars were built up from donor parts of numerous other touring/offroad cars and were very brutaly sucessfull for a home made basic car and phenominaly easy to drive fast! but this new car is all gerd strenge not just a couple of components...he has looked at and designed each component personaly so its got to go quicker and be more durable ( he likes to make cars that finish a season, not just a race if youre lucky, or a lap realisticly:lol:)

[thaking]

A long-awaited Team Durango DEX410 of its latest production shots have just arrived from Germany!
Now it is announced that worldwide launch is coming in early July.
Please have a little more patience�I

this info is pasted from www.tresrey.com

[stegger]

Parts listing is up on the japanese site :p

Here's the translated version from babel fish ;)

http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tresrey.com%2FProduct_TD_Li st.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

[stegger]

I've just noticed that there's no mention of the brass weights :confused: i'm presuming that the bottom section is the hopup's. :)

[dave-p]

i must say i agree with all the other guys on the looks and layout, only time will tell if it is going to set the buggy world alight, i am really looking forward to follow its progress at grass roots level just to see how we mere mortals will cope with it.
going back to old cars though a really nice looking xx4 with a nice paint job will still give some of the lads a bit of a stiffy. good luck to the durango boys.

[maxoo]

Dear customer,

Thank you for your DEX410 pre-order.

We had hoped to receive the kits into the UK at the end of this month but, due to circumstances beyond our control, we have been informed today that there is likely to be a delay of approximately four weeks, meaning the kits will not arrive in the UK until the end of July.

While the delay is disappointing for us, and for you, our policy of bringing the most reliable and best engineered RC racing cars to the market means that we cannot, and will not, release a kit which does not meet our very high standards.

We hope very much that you will understand this and accept our apology for this situation.

In the meantime, we have now completed the spares and options price lists, which we will be happy to send to you should you wish to receive one. If you would like a Team Durango DEX410 price list, please confirm your delivery address (as we do not have addresses for all of our pre-order customers), clearly stating your country of residence.

Once again we would like to thank you for your continued support of Team Durango. Rest assured we will deliver your new DEX410 to you as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

[GRIFF55]

:cry:, but its a good thing they want the car right before public release:D

[samd]

Ive got a PDF of prices and options, but it wont open:mad: says it has a file error, any one else have a working copy?

[MotoRev]

Here you go... £425.00 for the kit:cry:

Thats gunna hurt..

..and no word yet as to how much the brass weight kit is...

[ben]

Id suggest not breaking a rear shock tower at £22 a pop :cry:

[bigred5765]

true, but i bet there almost indestructible

[JohnM]

Here you go... £425.00 for the kit:cry:

Thats gunna hurt..

..and no word yet as to how much the brass weight kit is...


It says £445 on that list, still thats £5 cheaper then I thought it was going to be:D

As for prices of things like shock towers, hopefully, if what they've said so far about the quality, you need to have loads of spares in the race box, unlike the hateful B44 I had last year, just about £230 for the kit, then another £300 needed in spares:mad:

[c0sie]

the hateful B44 I had last year, just about £230 for the kit, then another £300 needed in spares:mad:

Wow.....nice driving there then.....

:p

[dan_kitty]

looks like a lot of things on the list are still quite cheap, rear/front wish bones 6 quid etc..

hopefully the more expensive bits will be strong, they look strong anyway

bring it on:)

[GRIFF55]

Agreed Dan, i think we should all just wait and see this thing of beauty on the track and in the flesh. Only then can we say this is strong,this is weak and so on.
Can't wait to get mine anyhow:thumbsup:

[nitrokillah]

wow guys .
How often do you break a rear shocktower ??? :o

As for the spaires list ; it's Obvious that for a new company , launching a new kit ; it wasn't going to be cheap . :yawn:

[c0sie]

I used to break a B4 rear tower every fortnight :(

[telboy]

We can't all be superstars Cris! :p

I'd better get a bigger spares box!!:woot:

[c0sie]

You lining yourself for one of these Tel?

I wonder if any of these will show themselves at the Euros?

[telboy]

Maybe, not sure.
Depends how cheap I can get one for.

They do look the nuts though, and I think will be well worth getting.
:D

[JohnM]

Wow.....nice driving there then.....

:p

:lol::lol: Nope, nothing to do with my driving, the car is garbage, falls apart just by looking at a blade of grass, ask Jonathan Brown what he thinks of the strength of it, he was breaking wishbones without hitting anything at the EoE Regional at Ipswich a few weeks back:o

If it was a more main stream sort of product, Watch Dog would be after Associated:p

Back to the Durango, I'm hoping it'll be a bit like the 5 series BMW I had as a kid, everyone said I'd never be able to afford to run it, but in 34,000 miles, nothing went wrong, or fell off:D unlike the Vauxhall Senator that followed:cry:

[stegger]

I think the prices are quite reasonable :D granted the shock towers do seem expensive but you pay £14 front and £15.99 rear for cat SX towers and there's not half the amount of carbon fiber in the sx version as there is in the durango's. Can't wait, just need to get the money together :blush:

[maxoo]

I never seen a 4mm carbon shocktower broken...

[Northy]

I never seen a 4mm carbon shocktower broken...

I have one in front of me now...... :D

G

[ben]

I saw tony evdoka break one at the weekend :eh?:

[GRIFF55]

but he did also snap the top off a losi shock.... I think anything would have broke in that instance. 4.5 + epr = snappage

[bigred5765]

wow was just about to comment then griff. i read something elso instead of snapage lol

[Lee]

wow was just about to comment then griff. i read something elso instead of snapage lol

Snappage? :lol:

[maxoo]

http://www.esteedworld.com/up_files/TD%20LowRes-01.jpg

http://www.esteedworld.com/up_files/TD%20LowRes-02.jpg

[GRIFF55]

You lucky man maxoo!!!:drool:

[Full Metal Jacket]

Just check around TD distributors recently, it seems Japan has the car for test but China may actually has the production kit arrived, cos' have the box shown up. :woot: :thumbsup: :drool:

Its site is all in Chinese so not understand at all, does anyone knows what's talking about and do some translations please! :confused:

Is it an sample or actual production kit released already!!!

check this up, fellows. www.esteedhobby.com (http://www.esteedhobby.com)

[Full Metal Jacket]

http://www.esteedworld.com/up_files/TD%20LowRes-01.jpg

http://www.esteedworld.com/up_files/TD%20LowRes-02.jpg

I saw this one too, from China site? Kit released already?

[Team Durango UK]

This is a pre-production sample kit. The kit has not yet been released in China. The worldwide launch will be at the end of July.
Team Durango Ltd (UK)

[maxoo]

You lucky man maxoo!!!:drool:

It's not mine :cry:

But :drool::drool::drool::drool:

[Full Metal Jacket]

me too! me too! :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[Full Metal Jacket]

I just check back the chinese site again to see if any more news, they added some english descriptions, so I think is also a sample kit but with the box only.

So not suprises, we still need to wait until end of July! :cry:

[stegger]

This is a pre-production sample kit. The kit has not yet been released in China. The worldwide launch will be at the end of July.
Team Durango Ltd (UK)
So who are you, and when will the distributor be announced ?:)

[mes]

Good job, guys!
I was determined to buy a Cyber10B in a few weeks, and now I'm contemplating AGAIN to buy a buggy that is complete overkill for the motors I run and does not accept my Lipos...:mad::p:wub
What was the price fo the "R" version again?!

[Full Metal Jacket]

Good job, guys!
I was determined to buy a Cyber10B in a few weeks, and now I'm contemplating AGAIN to buy a buggy that is complete overkill for the motors I run and does not accept my Lipos...:mad::p:wub
What was the price fo the "R" version again?!

I think the "R" has been listed for USD390 something like that. Sounds ok but so far no one know is the spec. going will be and when is going to be released, so need to wait and see though.

[lllyf]

If you can read chinese,you can visit this website:
http://bbs.rcfans.com/viewthread.php?tid=215768&extra=page%3D1
this is the one of pre-production sample for final testing, and the building report not complete yet

[samd]

Try this translated version. . .
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http://bbs.rcfans.com/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D215768%26extra%3Dpage%253D1&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&history_state0=

[nitrokillah]

MY Bad

[joho]

To: Nitrokillah,

Please note I am the one who took all the Durango photos, and you did not even quote where they are coming from. Those photos are for China market only, and we never intend to be show in an UK Forum.

Please understand every distributor have their strategy regarding how to launch a new car, and by no means, we do not want to interupt Durango UK's plan on launching. Sombody already post the thread, if you really want to check it out, we cannot stop anyhone since it's a public forum. However, if you download my photos and re-post it here without even asking, I do think I have the right to stop you doing that.

Please kindly delete all these photo which is taken by myself.

Thank you for your kind attention.

Regards,
Joho

[showtime]

nice pics Joho


i'm glad to have seen them & am now very interested in the car
i'm pretty sure they will only create more interest in this exciting new car :thumbsup:

[Alex H]

I am glad to have seen them also but I do understand your point. The intense hype surrounding this car and the "lack" of information makes people look for the slightest evidence of its launch. So if there's pics like this on the web, you can count on a virus like effect all around the world.
Look really cool!:woot:

[Fabs]

To: Nitrokillah,

Please note I am the one who took all the Durango photos, and you did not even quote where they are coming from. Those photos are for China market only, and we never intend to be show in an UK Forum.

Please understand every distributor have their strategy regarding how to launch a new car, and by no means, we do not want to interupt Durango UK's plan on launching. Sombody already post the thread, if you really want to check it out, we cannot stop anyhone since it's a public forum. However, if you download my photos and re-post it here without even asking, I do think I have the right to stop you doing that.

Please kindly delete all these photo which is taken by myself.

Thank you for your kind attention.

Regards,
Joho

If I'm not mistaken, they were not copied at all, these are linked straight to your website mate.

[stegger]

They all gone :cry::cry:

[joho]

Thank you very much Nitrokillah, thank you.

I must say the car look and feel really nice, it will be avaliable soon, so please stay tune.:drool:

[bigred5765]

so now you have had your pictures removed, is there any chance of a link to your site so we can see them in there full beauty please.

[nitrokillah]

Thank you very much Nitrokillah, thank you.

I must say the car look and feel really nice, it will be avaliable soon, so please stay tune.:drool:

Lucky man ....
I've been waiting year & years for this car .
Just been caught up by the Hype :blush:;) ...

[c0sie]

Are there any weights for this car posted on the net anywhere?

Interested to see if the diffs and chassis add a huge amount of weight to the overall or not..

[bender]

Still following the build of the car on that Chinese site and I must say, I'm finding even more to like about the car :drool:

Love the way you can adjust the roll centres and anti squat at the back, and how the forward toe-block slides through the plastic gearbox supports.

Also the steering design looks excellent, very well crafted and all intergrated onto a single piece of machined alloy which holds the servo too - superb :thumbsup:

[joho]

You sure can tell alot from just looking at the photos!

It is infact, very very nice. The servo saver assembly are so gooood...:lol:

[Fabs]

It's a matter of opinion but I personally don't like the car.

[DaveG28]

It's a matter of opinion but I personally don't like the car.

In what way Fabs, the concept/design, the build or the looks etc?

[Fabs]

Design solutions mainly. But I was never big on the Durango tbh.

[Rebelrc]

Ha ha!

[Alex H]

I know for a fact that there is a 2wd on the drawing board! How and when, who knows. Perhaps in five years or so;).

[DaveG28]

St looked at the price list and it says £445, is that right? Earlier in the thread £425 is mentioned!?

Anyone who's preordered been quoted a delivery cost?

[maxoo]

new rear part:

http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090731_1049267.jpg

http://tresrey.img.jugem.jp/20090731_1049264.jpg

[mes]

I just love this car! I will have to buy it, no matter how much it costs and whether I'll ever find the time to race it...

[henga]

St looked at the price list and it says £445, is that right? Earlier in the thread £425 is mentioned!?

Anyone who's preordered been quoted a delivery cost?

I think that £445 is about right.
I asked them about delivery costs and was told it'd be £15-£20
depending which courier they ended up using. But this was a few
weeks ago now, so it might have changed.

[stegger]

Did adam run the car at the stotfold national over the weekend and how did it go ?