Lazer zxr

[Welshy40]

-87 sydney 3rd Rick Howart
-91 detroit 3rd Jack Johnsson he won one leg and had a shoot at the title

mvh isobarik

Didnt realise Rick made third, still I recal his Lazer from the Reedy event and his Ujs were stunning. If only they made silver like his it would have been ace. Also dont forget there a video of him kicking Masamis but when he had the YZ10 with his nicely handling ZXR.

[Welshy40]

Thanks welshy ...

no cant see it so im waiting gladly on some jpg or adobe ...

mvh isobarik

Here it is.

[isobarik]

Here it is.

Thanks welsh

here is an shoot at Jack when he beat masami and lett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob42CpxWIAA

mvh sobarik

[kek23k]

Thanks welsh

here is an shoot at Jack when he beat masami and lett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob42CpxWIAA

mvh sobarik


Thanks for the link iso, really enjoyed watching that :D:D:D

[isobarik]

Thanks for the link iso, really enjoyed watching that :D:D:D

Yeah its an nice vid , but damn that track was very bumpy.

When i looked at the 3rd vid i noticed that joel was fourth.

since pixbox is down and it was there i had my pics so what shall i go for photobucket maybe ??? i have an piece that i would like to show

mvh Isobarik

[kek23k]

Yeah its an nice vid , but damn that track was very bumpy.

When i looked at the 3rd vid i noticed that joel was fourth.

since pixbox is down and it was there i had my pics so what shall i go for photobucket maybe ??? i have an piece that i would like to show

mvh Isobarik


I tend to use Flickr but I think photobucket is good also.

[Welshy40]

Well when i raced seriously i always preferred sanwa gemini exerd for my transmitter, and by chance acquired one recently, now to upgrade it to 2.4ghz. Ive also acquired a ko propo typr r and has been upgraded to 2.4 ghz, so decisions decisions, which do i use with my Lazer?

[isobarik]

Well when i raced seriously i always preferred sanwa gemini exerd for my transmitter, and by chance acquired one recently, now to upgrade it to 2.4ghz. Ive also acquired a ko propo typr r and has been upgraded to 2.4 ghz, so decisions decisions, which do i use with my Lazer?

looks cool the ko radio but whats with the stick in uk is it because they like to work the shaft ??? :thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Welsh

Thanks for the pivot holder, have modified it a little bit and sent it to fibre-lyte .

if my measuremnts are correct the differance in distance between the 1,5 bracket and the 2.o bracket for the zxs are 1,6 mm if i would like to have an 3 degree bracket shall i just add 3,2 mm or am I compleatly off here ???:cry:

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

Oli4ke

ihave the parts that you wanted pm me .

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

looks cool the ko radio but whats with the stick in uk is it because they like to work the shaft ??? :thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

Nope it because your ladies love to work my shaft :p

[isobarik]

Nope it because your ladies love to work my shaft :p


Well njaee i still think that you like to work the shaft ...:thumbsup:

how about the bracket degree ??? i would like to have an 3 degree toein bracket .

mvh Isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

I remember back in the day I preferred stick to wheel controllers and that hasn't changed

[Welshy40]

Well njaee i still think that you like to work the shaft ...:thumbsup:

how about the bracket degree ??? i would like to have an 3 degree toein bracket .

mvh Isobarik

Iso, your crazy on the front mate, the car will be awful but I suppose you can try it, that is if your talking of 3 degree outwards rather than up or down?

I did a lot of testing in the early 90's to better the overall performance and found the front didnt really need much changing other than the wide front and more castor plus the ZX steering lonkage. The back however was a different affair. I tried reversing wishbones, front wishbones, many hubs, toe in, out etc etc and found the toe in or out on the rear was good, narrower rear hubs (fractional) from the Ultima RB type R (I had most probably the only one in the UK) gave significant options to ride height and made the rear end more responsive due to the narrower width of the car, shock towers and angle of the shocks as well as tie rod adjustment angles and roll bars. I also did try lower pivot blocks on the front and rear and also preferred it on the lower original setting, but I did also try upside down on occassion as this gave a change on some tracks.

If you want an angle sideways just put toe out on the front

[Welshy40]

I remember back in the day I preferred stick to wheel controllers and that hasn't changed

Nope, still prefer to the wheel, as you get more feel. Iso no pun needed here:woot:

Also when do we see your pics on here of your new toy?:drool:

[isobarik]

Iso, your crazy on the front mate, the car will be awful but I suppose you can try it, that is if your talking of 3 degree outwards rather than up or down?

I did a lot of testing in the early 90's to better the overall performance and found the front didnt really need much changing other than the wide front and more castor plus the ZX steering lonkage. The back however was a different affair. I tried reversing wishbones, front wishbones, many hubs, toe in, out etc etc and found the toe in or out on the rear was good, narrower rear hubs (fractional) from the Ultima RB type R (I had most probably the only one in the UK) gave significant options to ride height and made the rear end more responsive due to the narrower width of the car, shock towers and angle of the shocks as well as tie rod adjustment angles and roll bars. I also did try lower pivot blocks on the front and rear and also preferred it on the lower original setting, but I did also try upside down on occassion as this gave a change on some tracks.

If you want an angle sideways just put toe out on the front

i just want 3 degree toe in in the rear thats it.

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

So those drawings i did were for the front as thats what i thought you wanted. Still 3 on the back should be fine.

[isobarik]

So those drawings i did were for the front as thats what i thought you wanted. Still 3 on the back should be fine.

yeah i wanted the bracket for the front since i broke the plastic LA-30 mount.

So i was glad that you gave me the drawing on the front bracket and i have sent it to fibre-lyte to have it made.

But when i was looking on their site i just whised that i had an 3 degree bracket in the rear. WSo thats why i asked you about it.

So what shall be the distance between the two holes so that its 3 degree instead of 2degree ???

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Unsure but you have a zxs and the rears are various degrees so should give you an idea

[HKS_TRD]

Nope, still prefer to the wheel, as you get more feel. Iso no pun needed here:woot:

Also when do we see your pics on here of your new toy?:drool:

You mean this one ;)
I've put a few pics up in a new thread

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/250420133919_zpse704b8dd.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/250420133919_zpse704b8dd.jpg.html)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/250420133926_zps6a500bd0.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/250420133926_zps6a500bd0.jpg.html)

[Welshy40]

:woot::drool::woot::thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Well look what I saw the other day had to take a picture of this class number plate

[Welshy40]

My Vintage KO Esprit 2 type R upgraded to 2.4ghz using a frsky hack

[Crashtest33]

Well look what I saw the other day had to take a picture of this class number plate

:thumbsup:

[isobarik]

Well look what I saw the other day had to take a picture of this class number plate


ha ha ha ah got to be the coolest ever ....

btw welsh would like to do an 3 degree zx-s bracket for me ???

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

ha ha ha ah got to be the coolest ever ....

btw welsh would like to do an 3 degree zx-s bracket for me ???

mvh Isobarik

Yup cool big time, shame about the car its attached to.

If i get time, i can have a go. I think the easiest option is just get a zx5 hub with 2 degrees and one on the bracket.

[Welshy40]

Well i had an idea an with use of my trusty Ultima RB Type R transponder holder ive managed to mount the worlds smallest camera to my car, and yes it does video so game on.

[Welshy40]

And heres another, ok im going 2.4 ghz so the aerial will disapear

[HKS_TRD]

Would a ZX-R take the same length shocks front and rear as a ZX-S?

Anyone interested in buying some brand new in the packet 38 and 46mm gold velvet shocks?

[isobarik]

Would a ZX-R take the same length shocks front and rear as a ZX-S?

Anyone interested in buying some brand new in the packet 38 and 46mm gold velvet shocks?


1. teh rear shocks for the zx-s are long housing and mediumshaft so they will be to short.

2. are they built ????

mvh isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

They are NIP, see pic below

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/280420133942_zps63513974.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/280420133942_zps63513974.jpg.html)

So, I had bought the following Short and Medium Twin Cap Pro Shocks, and I also bought a set of Long bodies and shafts, thinking I would build the mediums for the front and then use the long bodies and shafts on the short set to put on the rear

But, from what you are saying I would just build the short ones for the front and then build the medium for the rear but only use the long bodies with the medium shafts

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/280420133943_zps0cc6ba07.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/280420133943_zps0cc6ba07.jpg.html)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/280420133945_zps90484efd.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/280420133945_zps90484efd.jpg.html)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/280420133946_zps468da96f.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/280420133946_zps468da96f.jpg.html)

So what on earth are the velvets I bought suitable for??

[Welshy40]

Why not measure the bodies against the ones on the ZXS? Then youll know for sure

[HKS_TRD]

The bodies are the same. And both these bodies are the same length as a short gold shock.

With the gold shocks and the equalizers short medium and long had increasingly longer bodies and each one had a longer shaft too, however with the newer shocks it seems they are using a short body and a longer shaft to create a medium length shock.

The ZXR-MKI uses medium gold shocks and has a taller front tower than a ZX-R MKII

I am thinking that maybe I could use the 38mm velvets on the rear of either my tub car which will only run on smooth surfaces or the back of the Mid SE-X but the 46mm are too long for any of my buggies, what on earth are they for?

Not sure if its best to just get the 30mm bodies or try and sell the shocks as they are NIP and start again

Its a long shot but would the shafts from the old gold shocks be compatible with these, I know they are compatible with Equalizers

[isobarik]

The bodies are the same. And both these bodies are the same length as a short gold shock.

With the gold shocks and the equalizers short medium and long had increasingly longer bodies and each one had a longer shaft too, however with the newer shocks it seems they are using a short body and a longer shaft to create a medium length shock.

The ZXR-MKI uses medium gold shocks and has a taller front tower than a ZX-R MKII

I am thinking that maybe I could use the 38mm velvets on the rear of either my tub car which will only run on smooth surfaces or the back of the Mid SE-X but the 46mm are too long for any of my buggies, what on earth are they for?

Not sure if its best to just get the 30mm bodies or try and sell the shocks as they are NIP and start again

Its a long shot but would the shafts from the old gold shocks be compatible with these, I know they are compatible with Equalizers

30 front zx5 and rb5

38 rear rb5 sp

42 zx5 and rb5 rear front Rt5

46 RT5 rear


mvh Isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

Hey guys looking at this Lazer on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYOSHO-LAZER-ZXR-YOUNGER-THAN-OPTIMA-VINTAGE-/330917809009?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_V ehicles&hash=item4d0c3d0b71

It would appear to have the LAW-3 Carbon Chassis and the LAW-9 Carbon upper deck, however is the LAW-9 for the ZX-R or the ZX-R MK2?

The LAW-3 I have seen Vintage Kyosho selling only has two holes to mount the rear bulkhead in the ZX/ZXR location however the chassis on this car has two sets of holes to let you move the bulkhead back a-la ZX-R MK2 does anyone know if maybe like the LAW6 and 7 the LAW-3 changed design later on but kept the same part number?

Anyone got any other observations on this car?

[isobarik]

Looks awsome , always woundered if the law-09 fits the zxr or the mk2

Mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

You should zoom in more as youll see its been redrilled like what we did in the early 90's. this was to give both options on mk1 and 2 layouts so didnt need a new chassis so you could fit the mk 2 top deck and L brace and other mods without changing the chassis as a lot of us didnt like the batt positioning on the mk2 chassis.

[HKS_TRD]

Funny you say that James the carbon ZX-R tub I have here has had the exact same thing done to it though in that instance it was drilled originally for the MK2 layout and the battery location IIRC is also MKII.

I know its hard to say for sure but does the weave on the chassis and upper deck look like the Kyosho parts rather than aftermarket bits?

Iso seeing as the LAW-9 is not listed in the MKI manual in the optional parts listing I'd say it probably was for the MKII however its a little puzzling that there would be a MKI carbon chassis and a MKII carbon upper deck, I guess there may have been a carbon chassis for the MKII as well not sure what the part number for that would have been

I'm considering buying this car and giving it a bit of TLC such as all new screws and a couple other things, I already have a carbon MKII motor brace sitting here that I had no plans for, it just came with a lot of parts I bought a while back.
The only other change I'd make to it is the front shock tower, I just like the look of the MKI tower better

[Welshy40]

I can see the holes and do look like a diy job as ive done the same. But looks mint never the less so go for it. The shell looks stunning for a shelf display.

[lllyf]

LAW-9 fits LAW-3 chassis standard,not MKII, this is ultra rare item

http://rcfans-discuzx.b0.upaiyun.com/album/201305/05/224718vr8wzfanw8trd9av.jpg

http://rcfans-discuzx.b0.upaiyun.com/album/201305/05/224721rzyq4x9am1nysdvo.jpg

[HKS_TRD]

Thanks for posting that

So that car on eBay doesn't have a genuine LAW-9 on it then

Do you happen to have a LAW-9 you would be willing to sell?

[lllyf]

kyosho has genuine part carbon chassis & carbon upper deck for zxr LAW-10 & LAW-11,but I don't know if they are MKII chassis & upper deck

[HKS_TRD]

I think they must be for the MKII doesn't make sense for them to b anything else.

So this car must have an LAW-11 Upper Deck and a LAW-3 Chassis with the extra holes drilled to work with the LAW-11

[lllyf]

regret that I have one set MKII chassis and upper deck but not sure if they are genius kyosho parts，I have one LAW10 LAW11 header card picture but does not have full view，very confused

[isobarik]

Illyf

Cool never seen the original law10/11 :drool:

awsome find upperdeck looks super.:drool:

I have the HPI upperdeck for the mkI the only one i have seen since the
rccar action magazine.

you dont have anymore goodies like the HPI zxr chassi i know that one here or on rc10talk has one just cant remember who.

mvh isobarik

[isobarik]

I think they must be for the MKII doesn't make sense for them to b anything else.

So this car must have an LAW-11 Upper Deck and a LAW-3 Chassis with the extra holes drilled to work with the LAW-11

Should be correct

Btw i have those battery bars in kyosho carbon got them from ema with my law-3 chassi

damn i got to repost all the pics..

Any one here that has an rb5 ???
mvh isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

Did those battery bars ever get sold by Kyosho?

I'm wondering if there is any carbon you can buy that looks really close to Kyosho Carbon that one could send to Fibrelyte to make some pieces from

Was there ever a company called team weave?

ISO: You have to post pics ASAP!

[HKS_TRD]

regret that I have one set MKII chassis and upper deck but not sure if they are genius kyosho parts，I have one LAW10 LAW11 header card picture but does not have full view，very confused

I'm only guessing here but I think those bits may not be Kyosho because some of the corners are rounded off and I imagine the Kyosho carbon bits would have been the exact same shape as the FRP parts

I'm only guessing here

[Welshy40]

Im unsure on that, possible one is kyosho but quite possible the others HPI. May also be another make like wasp etc etc

[HKS_TRD]

I'm pretty sure its the same parts just turned upside down in one of the pics

[isobarik]

Did those battery bars ever get sold by Kyosho?

I'm wondering if there is any carbon you can buy that looks really close to Kyosho Carbon that one could send to Fibrelyte to make some pieces from

Was there ever a company called team weave?

ISO: You have to post pics ASAP!

Fibre-lyte has some carbon that are not so glossy but dont know how it look likes but i will know in a week or two.

yeah i know i have to ......

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

I'm pretty sure its the same parts just turned upside down in one of the pics

correct ....

mvh Isobarik

[isobarik]

regarding the glossines , sorry cant get the right word for it but any way

fibre-lyte glossy i would put WASP chassis here but any one with the best of both worlds could tell the differance maybe EMA .

HPI semi glossy i have un upperdeck from them so im guessing. i would put the new stuff from kyosho here hard to tell since pics on ebay are semi glossy and jared tebo from the worlds in finland -11 had some special made stuff and they looked like the old stuff.

Kyosho not glossy i have had the TOMS and the law-3 they have the same materiel ok not the same but similar even had the law-9 same stuff....

mvh Isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

Thanks for that ISO, keen to see how your non-glossy stuff from Fibrelyte turns out. I have compared my TOMS chassis to the fibrelyte and there is a huge difference.

I have a rear ZX-R tower that has a pink tinge to it, it came with some other stuff I'm not sure who made it. I'll be selling it when I get off my butt and take some pics

Did I ever mention I have a NIP LAW-2 stabiliser set? I'm not sure what it will go on yet

[isobarik]

Thanks for that ISO, keen to see how your non-glossy stuff from Fibrelyte turns out. I have compared my TOMS chassis to the fibrelyte and there is a huge difference.

I have a rear ZX-R tower that has a pink tinge to it, it came with some other stuff I'm not sure who made it. I'll be selling it when I get off my butt and take some pics

Did I ever mention I have a NIP LAW-2 stabiliser set? I'm not sure what it will go on yet

yeah i have that too.....dont know if i use it dough....

[Welshy40]

Wasp bought from fibre lyte so should at least answer one question. I know this as ComCom and Wasp and another company bought my design chassis from Fibrelyte.

Now as im talking about my chassis, ive some news that you all have been waiting to hear about. Drum roll please.....the first one (mine) will be done by end of July or start of September. Ive laid down the gauntlet as i need it in October so my own hole layout will be the first and then its whatever layout you want on your chassis you can have, even my layout which was never sold to the public or ComCom or Wasp etc etc :p

[HKS_TRD]

Thats great news.
Is the tub shape going to be compatible with the ZX-R or the ZX-S body?
I'd love to have one drilled to take Mid Gearboxes

[isobarik]

Thats great news.
Is the tub shape going to be compatible with the ZX-R or the ZX-S body?
I'd love to have one drilled to take Mid Gearboxes

would say ZXR its my bet ...;)

vh isobarik

[isobarik]

lllyf

now that i do know that you have some special chassi for the lazer show em all i know its in there some where ...:D

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Thats great news.
Is the tub shape going to be compatible with the ZX-R or the ZX-S body?
I'd love to have one drilled to take Mid Gearboxes

Its for the zxr shell so the parma tomcat shell is a perfect fit. The zxs wont fit.

[isobarik]

The bodies are the same. And both these bodies are the same length as a short gold shock.

With the gold shocks and the equalizers short medium and long had increasingly longer bodies and each one had a longer shaft too, however with the newer shocks it seems they are using a short body and a longer shaft to create a medium length shock.

The ZXR-MKI uses medium gold shocks and has a taller front tower than a ZX-R MKII

I am thinking that maybe I could use the 38mm velvets on the rear of either my tub car which will only run on smooth surfaces or the back of the Mid SE-X but the 46mm are too long for any of my buggies, what on earth are they for?

Not sure if its best to just get the 30mm bodies or try and sell the shocks as they are NIP and start again

Its a long shot but would the shafts from the old gold shocks be compatible with these, I know they are compatible with Equalizers


the velvet are tripple caps so the bottom cartridge is very long ....compared to the twincap....

mvh isobarik

[alcyon]

welshy40, I got the layshaft you sent me. thanks

[isobarik]

Just switching the bottom caps to i think 5193 and you will get velvet twincaps ... :thumbsup:

mvh isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

Just switching the bottom caps to i think 5193 and you will get velvet twincaps ... :thumbsup:

mvh isobarik

So you are saying to use the bottom caps from twin cap pro shocks on the velvets?

All these different Kyosho shocks really does my head in

[Welshy40]

welshy40, I got the layshaft you sent me. thanks

Great. It worked well with the b4 slipper attached.

[isobarik]

So you are saying to use the bottom caps from twin cap pro shocks on the velvets?

All these different Kyosho shocks really does my head in

There are special touringcaps for the velvet shocks they are not as deep/high as the tripplecap bottom, so one could call them twincaps velvet since they look like the trippel caps.

Was wrong on the part number here is the right one w5189-03

here are an pic


http://supershafty.com/img/p/115-524-large.jpg


mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Guys anyone got a tub chassis as i need some help.

If you can see if the holes on a mk1 flat chassis are exactly in the same place as the tub you have and let me know. My proto that ive sent to have made again appears to have a couple of differences compared to the original and just need confirmation to see if it was just that or is identical.

I wish i took notes as it was 1990 when i did the first but do know the servo is in a different position as my 9401 futaba wouldnt have fitted, so not too bothered about that, more interested in if the top and bottom holes and top deck/rear mount holes match.

Cheers

[HKS_TRD]

James my tub was drilled to take a MKII upper deck and then had extra holes drilled to work with the MKI upper deck so is probably not of any help to you

[Welshy40]

James my tub was drilled to take a MKII upper deck and then had extra holes drilled to work with the MKI upper deck so is probably not of any help to you

Actually it is. Need to know if the rest of the holes are in the correct place or if they are slightly further in and is like quarter of a mm.

[HKS_TRD]

OK I will check it out tomorrow night

I do remember the holes for the battery strap posts being a bit closer together by a few mm compared to other Kyosho buggies

Are there any other holes in particular you are interested in, gearbox, pivot block or?

[Welshy40]

OK I will check it out tomorrow night

I do remember the holes for the battery strap posts being a bit closer together by a few mm compared to other Kyosho buggies

Are there any other holes in particular you are interested in, gearbox, pivot block or?

Gearbox holes and pivot block and central 3 poles. Also rear top deck mount.

[HKS_TRD]

Hi James

All those holes seem to line up the same as a ZX chassis except the upper deck holes as mine was orignally drilled for a MKII upper deck, the new holes are not quite in the right place but thats an error on the drilling that was done after the tub was made by someone that wanted to go to the other upper deck

[Welshy40]

I think i designed my original tub fractionally longer by roughly 1mm at the front gearbox to take away some of the belts slack. Its driving me crazy as the layout doesnt make sense but the chassis was stunning indoors and also on grass and really rutty tracks as well.

[Crashtest33]

Hi James. Completely off topic but did you by any chance send LA-111 to Kamtec??
Any idea who may have one?
Cheers mo fo

[isobarik]

Hi James. Completely off topic but did you by any chance send LA-111 to Kamtec??
Any idea who may have one?
Cheers mo fo

yeah who might have NIP LA-111 :woot: mohaaa..

who do you have tom humilitae youe self to get one from.:woot:

Welsh i have sent you an email ...

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Hi James. Completely off topic but did you by any chance send LA-111 to Kamtec??
Any idea who may have one?
Cheers mo fo

Nick

Kamtec did a mold but mine that was supplied was a proto so a rough cover. Ive a new one but is the only one ive got and will keep and fit onto my zxs when its had a full rebuild as its being shelved.

I dont have the plastic for the gearboxes but a simple solution is to cut a new wing to size and bend the sides and cut to fit the rear gearbox and also cut and bend one for the front.

If no luck with kamtec i can always sell you a couple of the gear covers for a tenner, that way if you make a mistake you can have another go but be advised the screw section by the rear tower is very tricky to do as the cover is fractionally bigger so is tricky to mount and you need to drill a hole fractionally thru the side wall of the cover.

[Welshy40]

yeah who might have NIP LA-111 :woot: mohaaa..

who do you have tom humilitae youe self to get one from.:woot:

Welsh i have sent you an email ...

mvh Isobarik

Iso how many did you get? He will have to grovel wont he.

I will have a look this weekend and work out the dimensions for you. The reason i didnt do that design was more for strength hence why my original designs were four holed.

[Crashtest33]

Hmmm, I could take a picture of me kissing a cardboard cut-out of you Iso. ? :wub
I would be willing to exchange one for a classic English fry-up Fed-Ex'd to you in Sweden? :drool:
I'll name one of my tropical fish after you... Isobarik the Guppy :thumbsup:

Cheers on the gearbox dust covers James, but I did exactly that. I purchaced some Lexan from Hobbycraft and made them.

[Welshy40]

Hmmm, I could take a picture of me kissing a cardboard cut-out of you Iso. ? :wub
I would be willing to exchange one for a classic English fry-up Fed-Ex'd to you in Sweden? :drool:
I'll name one of my tropical fish after you... Isobarik the Guppy :thumbsup:

Cheers on the gearbox dust covers James, but I did exactly that. I purchaced some Lexan from Hobbycraft and made them.

Isobarik the Guppy :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[kek23k]

Haven't you got a clownfish that we can all call isobarik? :lol:

[HKS_TRD]

Would a ZX-R MK2 come with alloy or plastic ot-16 knuckles? And likewise a MK1? I have that yellow specimen sitting next to my ZX-S now, will post some pics later on

[Welshy40]

Would a ZX-R MK2 come with alloy or plastic ot-16 knuckles? And likewise a MK1? I have that yellow specimen sitting next to my ZX-S now, will post some pics later on

Plastic. Alloy only came on zx.

[HKS_TRD]

Thanks so seems the car came with the correct parts then. It has UJs on the rear as well. I keep forgetting what shocks the RR came with. The gold shocks on this car are mint but I'm tempted to put my new equalzers on it. I find the MK2 front shock tower really ugly I'll put a MK1 tower on it. What I'd really like to do is find some carbon sheet that matches the chassis and top deck and have towers battery straps and motor brace cut for it

[isobarik]

Hmmm, I could take a picture of me kissing a cardboard cut-out of you Iso. ? :wub
I would be willing to exchange one for a classic English fry-up Fed-Ex'd to you in Sweden? :drool:
I'll name one of my tropical fish after you... Isobarik the Guppy :thumbsup:

Cheers on the gearbox dust covers James, but I did exactly that. I purchaced some Lexan from Hobbycraft and made them.

not much really just that you have to wear an t-shirt when racing .That say

isos
bitch

on the back , and youre soul ....

forgott already have that ....mohaaa

Dont have many left shall see..

i mean dont have many tshirts left ...mohaaa.....

mvh isobarik

[kek23k]

Oh boy, I sure hope I never need anything from iso but if I did I'd probably meet his demands lol

[isobarik]

Oh boy, I sure hope I never need anything from iso but if I did I'd probably meet his demands lol

I watching you ....

mvh isobarik :cool:

[Welshy40]

:thumbsup:

In reality your all my bitches including Iso :thumbsup: Still you guys make me laugh out loud :woot:

[kek23k]

I watching you ....

mvh isobarik :cool:


I'm scared *waves at iso* ;)

I really enjoy the fact that we can have a good laugh at the same time as helping each other out (although I am pretty sure Iso's demands are always serious!)

Back on topic! I really want some alloy hingepin holders for my rebuild but I seem to recall people saying the new one's on Ebay are not correct? Can anyone help me find some? I want the ones that are the same as the Kyosho LAW part, not the ugly alloy block ones and ideally in blue (I'd prefer black but I don't think they were ever made)?

[Welshy40]

The ones Paragu sells are crap so dont buy them. They are fractionally too small.

Im unsure if the ebay ones are ok. Im going to have the two inner ones made from a block in the next month or so.

[kek23k]

The ones Paragu sells are crap so dont buy them. They are fractionally too small.

Im unsure if the ebay ones are ok. Im going to have the two inner ones made from a block in the next month or so.

I think it's the Paragu ones on Ebay that I'm referring to, these ones:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/kyosho-lazer-zx-alloy-arm-bracket-set-silver-/330918277594

[HKS_TRD]

I didn't realise there was a Kyosho law pivot block, any more details on that? The front Pargu pivot blocks are OK but the rears are a bit too narrow. They are still useable though. I have three sets (long story) so I'm looking to sell one set

[HKS_TRD]

Hoping someone can help me out here, I have been inspecting the yellow ZX-R and found need a couple things for it.

The attached image is from the ZX-R supplement I need the tapered washer, I have all the other parts in the picture, I actually need two pairs, does anyone have any or know if that part is available new on its own. Its odd that it doesn't come with the kingpin parts

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/TaperedWasher_zps038b9310.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/TaperedWasher_zps038b9310.jpg.html)

The other thing is would anyone have a new or mint rear half of the front gearbox, I know its the front that usually breaks so not sure if anyone has the rear half as on the yellow ZX-R the thread is stripped for the lower right shock tower screw and that one goes into the rear of the gearbox case I believe. I am yet to strip a lazer completely so not as familiar with it as I am with the Mid

James where do you source all your stainless fasteners from?

[oli4ke]

Hi Dan,

I have a spare front gearbox available...

[kek23k]

I didn't realise there was a Kyosho law pivot block, any more details on that? The front Pargu pivot blocks are OK but the rears are a bit too narrow. They are still useable though. I have three sets (long story) so I'm looking to sell one set

I'm not sure of the LAW number but I'm pretty sure they did exist and anodised in Kyosho blue too. How much are you looking to sell a set for and what colours have you got?

[HKS_TRD]

I have two blue sets and one silver set, which color do you prefer?

[Welshy40]

What? Do you mean the screws? If yes the companys gone bust but if you ebay a search for stainless steel 3mm button head screws and go for 5mm, 6, 8, 10, 12 and 14mm then that should be all the sizes you need.

Hoping someone can help me out here, I have been inspecting the yellow ZX-R and found need a couple things for it.

The attached image is from the ZX-R supplement I need the tapered washer, I have all the other parts in the picture, I actually need two pairs, does anyone have any or know if that part is available new on its own. Its odd that it doesn't come with the kingpin parts

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/TaperedWasher_zps038b9310.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/TaperedWasher_zps038b9310.jpg.html)

The other thing is would anyone have a new or mint rear half of the front gearbox, I know its the front that usually breaks so not sure if anyone has the rear half as on the yellow ZX-R the thread is stripped for the lower right shock tower screw and that one goes into the rear of the gearbox case I believe. I am yet to strip a lazer completely so not as familiar with it as I am with the Mid

James where do you source all your stainless fasteners from?

[kek23k]

RPC have a good range and also sponsor oople:

http://rpcracing.co.uk/en/668-metric

Also, I've been wondering if the original ZX-5 upper king pin would make a good replacement for the parts you are looking for (cause I need them as well I think). You can see what they look like in this auction:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Racing-ZX5-17-V2-BU-Aluminum-Blue-Knuckle-Arms-Ver-2-For-Kyosho-Lazer-ZX-5-TF5-/350713106819

[Welshy40]

Personally i prefer the king pin for the zx5 where is a collar with washer end and you screw into it pretty much like the zxrr version. Advantages are you can avoid king pin losses.

[kek23k]

Does that mean the ZX5 ones fit with no problems, James? Do they end up the same height as the original ZXRR config?

[Welshy40]

Does that mean the ZX5 ones fit with no problems, James? Do they end up the same height as the original ZXRR config?

Tbh ive got a pair somewhere but think they do fit ok however you can still buy the zxrr king pin holders, unsure of the part numbers.

[Welshy40]

Iso, so are you now my bitch :woot:

[isobarik]

Iso, so are you now my bitch :woot:

Nope i just means that you of all 6 billions on this planet had the luxury to provide me with an drawing ...:thumbsup:

mvh isobarik

[DanB4]

Before I go ripping my pretty buggies apart can someone tell me if the standard zxr layshaft and slipper could be fitted into my runner Turbo Optima Mid Special?

Worth a try?

[isobarik]

Welsh you have pm


mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Iso ive replied.

[HKS_TRD]

Well my Lazer collection has expanded a little
I will strip it and give it a once over but the yellow car did not dissapoint, it was in better shape than I expected
It has uni joints on the rear, does the MKII or RR come with them on the rear?
I'm actually going to put my MKI tower on the front

You can see the stickers I finally put on the sides and top of the ZX-S wing
I need to put some shocks and wheels on the ZX so I can take a pic of all three Lazers together

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/170520133985_zpsded6b3f9.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/170520133985_zpsded6b3f9.jpg.html)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/180520133986_zps9f1125a9.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/180520133986_zps9f1125a9.jpg.html)

[Welshy40]

Very very nice, your collection is getting more colourful

[Welshy40]

Update - As you all recall the original tub mold went missing years ago and I was gutted, especially when I paid for the mold to be made.

Now ive done it again and from what I am being told the mold is coming along nicely. When done that mold will only be based at fibrelyte until that is no one buys this item anymore (I hope it keeps selling), then when that happens it will be coming home to me.

No one will be able to buy the mold or borrow it but everyone
who has wanted a CF tub chassis will be able to buy one by the end of September this year, obviously once I am happy with the finish on the first one they make. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Looks like happy racing again guys.

[Welshy40]

Before I go ripping my pretty buggies apart can someone tell me if the standard zxr layshaft and slipper could be fitted into my runner Turbo Optima Mid Special?

Worth a try?

Now thats a question, I am unsure. Alcyon may know this as he has one and also he has designed a new layshaft as well.

[Welshy40]

Iso,

Please answer my email or pm. Cheers mate

[kek23k]

Update - As you all recall the original tub mold went missing years ago and I was gutted, especially when I paid for the mold to be made.

Now ive done it again and from what I am being told the mold is coming along nicely. When done that mold will only be based at fibrelyte until that is no one buys this item anymore (I hope it keeps selling), then when that happens it will be coming home to me.

No one will be able to buy the mold or borrow it but everyone
who has wanted a CF tub chassis will be able to buy one by the end of September this year, obviously once I am happy with the finish on the first one they make. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Looks like happy racing again guys.

Excellent news, thanks James :D

[HKS_TRD]

I'm not sure of the LAW number but I'm pretty sure they did exist and anodised in Kyosho blue too. How much are you looking to sell a set for and what colours have you got?

Are you still interested in a set of the pargu pivot blocks?

Ditto IS I had replied to your PM

[Welshy40]

Check this out, my chassis design that com com bought to sell with a car attached to it.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=321136396213&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=87869639863

[kek23k]

Check this out, my chassis design that com com bought to sell with a car attached to it.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=321136396213&index=3&nav=SEARCH&nid=87869639863

I was looking at that auction last night, I wondered if anyone else had spotted it :D

Priced on the high side :(

[isobarik]

I was looking at that auction last night, I wondered if anyone else had spotted it :D

Priced on the high side :(

yeah but still looks good ...

mvh isobarik

[Welshy40]

Yup not bad, but a tad expensive. Cheaper to buy one of the new chassis' later this year.

[HKS_TRD]

I spotted that too

If you look closely at the pictures when you zoom in, the car looks like its led a hard life.

From experience things only look better in pics than in real life

Still a very cool Lazer either way

[Welshy40]

Yup, i forgot about the hing pin protectors. That was going to be on the proto but at the last minute decided against it. Good to have if your doing serious jumps.

[HKS_TRD]

The chassis appears to be the same as mine in that the front and rear extensions are wider than the standard chassis to cover the hinge pins. The only problem is if you run aftermarket hinge pins that sit the pins lower (e.g. the rear RW racing ones) the wishbones foul on the chassis. You can see he has cut the front and rear of the chassis back to clear the wishbones.
How will the new design look in these sections?

[Qimb528]

http://www.shapeways.com/designer/Qimb528

[HKS_TRD]

Wow this looks rather interesting

Have you got any pics of the actual item in royal blue?

Will there be any other future items like a gearbox case or wishbones?

[isobarik]

Wow this looks rather interesting

Have you got any pics of the actual item in royal blue?

Will there be any other future items like a gearbox case or wishbones?

But are the pricing for one ??? 43 euro ???

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

The chassis appears to be the same as mine in that the front and rear extensions are wider than the standard chassis to cover the hinge pins. The only problem is if you run aftermarket hinge pins that sit the pins lower (e.g. the rear RW racing ones) the wishbones foul on the chassis. You can see he has cut the front and rear of the chassis back to clear the wishbones.
How will the new design look in these sections?

My design i decided removing the pivot block protectors so will look the same as a current flat chassis. I did almost go for them but after discussions with some of the top boys in the 90's they were not really a necessity so didnt go on.

[Welshy40]

Wow this looks rather interesting

Have you got any pics of the actual item in royal blue?

Will there be any other future items like a gearbox case or wishbones?

???????

[HKS_TRD]

???????

I was referring to this link which QIMB528 posted on the previous page
http://www.shapeways.com/designer/Qimb528

[isobarik]

I was referring to this link which QIMB528 posted on the previous page
http://www.shapeways.com/designer/Qimb528

Looks awsome and the pink LA-39 should match welshys trousers perfect..:lol:

mvh Isobarik

[Welshy40]

Cheeky git. Looks great, so does this mean 3d modelling and if yes can you modify the rear top deck mount by bringing the mount section for the top deck by 3mm as then you can use 5500 lipo sadles without any issues. I would also raise the front gearbox section as well.

Ive emailed and asked. I would like in a white colour rather than blue.

[HKS_TRD]

I'd love to see some Optima Mid parts like gearboxes and bulkheads

Would also be great to see some Lazer pivot blocks

The possibilities are endless

I am considering buying a front bumper and see how well it turns out

The list of parts available has just grown from his first post

I only just got round to dying my white RPM wishbones blue this weekend and now you can get them blue off the shelf

This all depends on how good the drawings are to see if the parts are a direct match for the originals though

[keithrc]

I'd like to see some chain drive Optima parts 3D printed, mainly the front bumper and the chain guides.


Keith ;)

[Welshy40]

Ive asked if they can do my redesign to the rear top deck mount and mod to the front gearbox so you can run 5500 lipo saddles. Like to see ultima rb type R rear hubs as well as that makes a huge difference to the handling.

[HKS_TRD]

http://www.shapeways.com/designer/Qimb528

Ive asked if they can do my redesign to the rear top deck mount and mod to the front gearbox so you can run 5500 lipo saddles. Like to see ultima rb type R rear hubs as well as that makes a huge difference to the handling.

He posted in here but doesn't seem to be back, I've quoted his post above yours.

Maybe he is working on more stuff before he posts back

[isobarik]

Ive asked if they can do my redesign to the rear top deck mount and mod to the front gearbox so you can run 5500 lipo saddles. Like to see ultima rb type R rear hubs as well as that makes a huge difference to the handling.

regarding the rb hubs aka the sp hubs

la-303 will probbaly exist as long as the zx5 rtr do ...

mvh isobarik

[HKS_TRD]

Well James, ask and ye shall receive!

I'd like to see photos of the finished product, or better yet finished product installed

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1146886/la-31-3mm-higher.html?li=productBox-search

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1146890/la-32-3mm-higher.html?li=productBox-search

[Welshy40]

Superb. Well next month im buying the front gearbox and rear top deck mount thats 3mm higher in white as i prefer it, it just looks unique that way.

Ive asked if a modified gearcover that works with my new layshaft design.

[Qimb528]

I will come here regularly to check any requests for parts. Please list the item numbers. Also, seems like the newest addition to Kyosho's Lazer series not be a belt drive. http://rcinsider.com/?p=49760

[Welshy40]

Pity, the car isnt very good so they start copying others. They need to go back to belt as they are better on high grip surfaces.

[HKS_TRD]

James, theres one part I'm surprised you haven't asked to have made and thats a rear shock tower mount but in the correct shape to work with the CF open gearbox. Though I guess the market would be very limited

[Welshy40]

James, theres one part I'm surprised you haven't asked to have made and thats a rear shock tower mount but in the correct shape to work with the CF open gearbox. Though I guess the market would be very limited

May get that done, but once all else has been sorted. Also had a word with stephen about the L brace and asked him to add to your order.

[HKS_TRD]

May get that done, but once all else has been sorted. Also had a word with stephen about the L brace and asked him to add to your order.

Great, thanks for doing that

[rich420uk]

54899

54900

Hi folks

Dug the ZX-R out of the loft last week after a 15 year hibernation.

I would like to get this going again and have stumbled across this thread. All my batteries are knackered so might as well start again with all new electrics. At the moment I have a 12 turn brushed in it. Electrics have moved on a fair bit and I haven't a clue which lipo's to buy and which brushless motor to go for. Although I had my eye on a Tekin RS esc.

Any help in getting this going again would be much appreciated.

Rich

[Welshy40]

54899

54900

Hi folks

Dug the ZX-R out of the loft last week after a 15 year hibernation.

I would like to get this going again and have stumbled across this thread. All my batteries are knackered so might as well start again with all new electrics. At the moment I have a 12 turn brushed in it. Electrics have moved on a fair bit and I haven't a clue which lipo's to buy and which brushless motor to go for. Although I had my eye on a Tekin RS esc.

Any help in getting this going again would be much appreciated.

Rich

Rich,

Welcome to the club. Ok personally the Tekin RS Pro would be a good one to get as its small and easy to place on the chassis. Servo wise a futaba s9551 is a safe fast servo and always reliable. Motor wise i would advise fitting a lower wind like a 9.5 or 10.5 and would advise not going for LRP as its too agressive. Aim for a £60 motor like HPI or if you can find one a losi excorlin 9.5 as they are really simple and reliable and an easy solder, then again Vampire do one as well.

Ive designed a rear top deck mount which has an extra 3mm height which is on a link within the last few pages and by raising the lugs by 3mm means your cells will fit. Its pricey (i asked if they could redesign it) but should help. The front gearbox has been redesigned as well but you can always space the front by 3mm on either side.

Lipo tray ive designed but need to find the correct design. Batteries i use vampire as they are brilliant and an LRP charger but would advise getting one that charges above 5.5 and also balances.

Also worth mentioning if you buy 5500 lipo saddles you charge a 2C at 5.5

And if you do ever decide to sell or part ex for some items you 410k let me know, as i have a long history using those escs and need one for my shelfer when i build it.

[rich420uk]

Thanks for your advice

Can you tell me where the best place to get the alloy arm brackets from?

Without raising the top deck,what are the largest cells I can fit?

[Welshy40]

Thanks for your advice

Can you tell me where the best place to get the alloy arm brackets from?

Without raising the top deck,what are the largest cells I can fit?

4400 are a really tight fit and youll need demon banana plugs. Alloy pivot blocks are a touchy subject as im not happy with the ones being sold. Im having some machined.

Im doing the maritime winter series this year so you could always pop in and see my car.

[Qimb528]

More items had been posted. Will work on optima parts when I get them.

[Welshy40]

This is superb. Ok in a month or two im getting the steering in white, rear top deck mount with the hole sections which have been raised by 3mm so you can fit lipos in easily, the extension gearcover which is for the proto layshaft with associated VTS slipper clutch and may be tempted to get the front gearbox for my back up car when i build it as well with the raised holes. Things are looking really good.

[kek23k]

If you can't wait for Welshy's new tub:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321145969520

Looks MINT :thumbsup:

[Qimb528]

How much is the tub chassis that is in development?

[keithrc]

More items had been posted. Will work on optima parts when I get them.

Which Optima parts are you thinking of? Chain drives or Mids?


Keith ;)

[Welshy40]

How much is the tub chassis that is in development?

Unsure at the moment. Will update hopefully sometime in July / August when its in my hands. Costs for the first which is mine are going to be very high as im paying for the mold again as well.

[Qimb528]

Which Optima parts are you thinking of? Chain drives or Mids?


Keith ;)

Trying to win an optima mid and chain on ebay. If I win, I will have all parts to replicate.

[keithrc]

Awesome! Hopefully things go to plan then. I've made a thread on RC10talk regarding 3D printed Optima parts, maybe you could keep us updated there?


Keith ;)

[isobarik]

Trying to win an optima mid and chain on ebay. If I win, I will have all parts to replicate.

Do you need parts or do you need an drawing to make an 3D printin copy ??

[Qimb528]

Do you need parts or do you need an drawing to make an 3D printin copy ??

the part or a 3d model

[Qimb528]

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_01291_zps57cdcbb4.jpg http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_01281_zps48f48e55.jpg http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_0127_zps00d00ece.jpg

shipment came. Seem strong and bendable to a degree. It is a hard plastic material. Feels like a fibery plastic.

[Welshy40]

Ok colour suits me big time. Blue for the proto, white for the back up.

[Qimb528]

Do not order parts that are without polish finish. They are unpleasant.

[Welshy40]

Iso ive done it and PMd you.

[alcyon]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/2013-06-22132721_zps49b530c7.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/2013-06-22132721_zps49b530c7.jpg.html)

Welshy, new rear arm mounts, want to try ?

[Welshy40]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/2013-06-22132721_zps49b530c7.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/2013-06-22132721_zps49b530c7.jpg.html)

Welshy, new rear arm mounts, want to try ?

Yes, definately. Looks great.

[rondoolaa]

tub chassis sounds great james, the blue belts that were being made for the lazer, does anyone know the company that made them, looking to get something made for a different project,

[Welshy40]

tub chassis sounds great james, the blue belts that were being made for the lazer, does anyone know the company that made them, looking to get something made for a different project,

Ron, unfortunately no idea. They werent any good to use as all my testing on the first batch they all snapped in the first 30 seconds. I would recommend approaching the belt makers who sell repros on ebay and ask if they could do them in blue.

[Makattkd]

Hi guys, first post here from Australia. I have been slowly going through this thread and have found it very interesting indeed.

Long story short, back when I was a pup I got a ZX-Sport for my birthday and for various reasons I never got it finished. Recently after taking a break for work life I have dragged out the Lazer to get going and have some fun!

Trouble was when I opened the box lots of bits were missing. So I have slowly accumulated the parts required to get it going. Which has conveniently allowed me to upgrade it to 2.4ghz radio, lipo, brushless motor and ESC.

Took it for its first run a couple of days ago and man am I hooked! Broke front drive belt, open diffs suck and tyres rock hard (only good for drifting).

I want to spec it up to Zx-R and beyond.

Dangerously a few scotch and cokes later, an iPad and eBay and I am going to be on a first name basis with the postman!

Few questions:
What parts would I need to upgrade to a slipper clutch setup?
Will 3racing ZX5 shocks fit (I think they will)
Has anyone got a solution for DIY stabilizers (not really keen on the price of OT-54)
Where can I get carbon shock mounts from to change the shock position?
I bought LA245 universals, thinking they are for the front, but from a quick scan of this thread that is wrong, but maybe they will fit the rear? I need the 65mm for the front?

Not sure if the carbon tubs mentioned in this thread will fit the ZX-Sport, so I am going to get a friend who is a master craftsman in carbon etc to make a new chassis (not sure if there would be a market for them?)

Anyway so glad I found this thread, keep the info coming in.
Cheers,
Tim

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f84/skyvia2/image.jpg (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/skyvia2/media/image.jpg.html)

[Welshy40]

Tim,

This will cost you a lot. You will need to replace pretty much the whole car to make it into a zxr. I can sort you out with a rear gearbox with a zxr mk1 slipper clutch attached and spur gear but need to think on a price as some items are rare. I dont have the layshaft pulleys spare so youll need to aquire those from somewhere.

Look up fibrelyte, the links below in my name tag. They do all for the zx and r. I would advise a mk1 chassis so would go for the zx main chassis anda single section top deck. You will also need the L brace. Shock towers i would go for the front semicircular handle type as its the strongest, rear its dowm to what you like. Its expensive but the carbon fibre weave is stronger.

[Makattkd]

Hi Welshy,
Thanks for your reply, I would be very interested in your zx-r rear gearbox. Have a think about price and PM me. So from what I gather all I would need is the LA-11 for the layshaft pulleys?

How goes the progress with the SC10/B4 slipper clutch conversions?

Reason I ask is I am running a 10T Brushless and am concerned the MK1 slipper won't be up to the task :p

[Welshy40]

Hi Welshy,
Thanks for your reply, I would be very interested in your zx-r rear gearbox. Have a think about price and PM me. So from what I gather all I would need is the LA-11 for the layshaft pulleys?

How goes the progress with the SC10/B4 slipper clutch conversions?

Reason I ask is I am running a 10T Brushless and am concerned the MK1 slipper won't be up to the task :p



Ive finally finished tinkering with the layshaft and it is done. Alcyon can supply you with a layshaft but may take time to get made as it took me 2 months to get it but was worth the wait. Ive basically designed it around a vts slipper clutch due to it being easier to set and more beneficial to saving the drive train. It also felt easier to drive and was quicker than a standard B4 slipper.

But im now contimplating asking our new 3d maker to do a modification to the rear gearbox as well but am still looking at the original and comparing to my cf design to work out exactly where the tensioner bearings should be. This may take me some time but aim to get that done soon as well which should be easier to work on. Mind you my cf design is the best out there but does take time to rebuild if a belt does snap. For this buggy it would be nice to have a choice.

Mk1 slipper should be sufficient enough for a 10t brushless just in case your wondering.

Mmm cost for my gearbox is in the air. Need to discuss with Fibrelyte, who do the side plates, motor plate, L brace (my version with tensioner screw section) to get the costs which i will do tomorrow. you will need those to make it.

Youll need to get new screws as well. You need to locate LA112 post set and bearings (3x6mm x 6)

You will need alloy pivot blocks (not the new ones sold on ebay or by Paragu) as well as diff and LA11.

[alcyon]

Ive finally finished tinkering with the layshaft and it is done. Alcyon can supply you with a layshaft but may take time to get made as it took me 2 months to get it but was worth the wait. Ive basically designed it around a vts slipper clutch due to it being easier to set and more beneficial to saving the drive train. It also felt easier to drive and was quicker than a standard B4 slipper.


I should be able to get the next batch done quicker because my machinist seems freer at this time. However I have to get the shaft now made in hard steel because if you don't lock the front one way it will wear out the shaft at that area really quick. I will be waiting for your input welshy40 for any final changes because I do not have VTS parts with me.

[Welshy40]

I should be able to get the next batch done quicker because my machinist seems freer at this time. However I have to get the shaft now made in hard steel because if you don't lock the front one way it will wear out the shaft at that area really quick. I will be waiting for your input welshy40 for any final changes because I do not have VTS parts with me.

Until i get mine back in the next two weeks i will be unable to tell if the extension suits both slippers but will update. To be honest if you dont use the one way then the normal material is good, but if you need a one way then yes hardend steel is needed.

[HKS_TRD]

I just want to run the B4 slipper as I already have one, is there a layshaft available to suit that?

[HKS_TRD]

http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_01291_zps57cdcbb4.jpg http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_01281_zps48f48e55.jpg http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a490/QIMB5287/DSC_0127_zps00d00ece.jpg

shipment came. Seem strong and bendable to a degree. It is a hard plastic material. Feels like a fibery plastic.

Is that the polished finish? How many of those do yo have.
One thing I noticed is the postage prices on the shapeways site are a little steep

[Qimb528]

Is that the polished finish? How many of those do yo have.
One thing I noticed is the postage prices on the shapeways site are a little steep

Polish. Looks rough but quite smooth. I have one. Postage price set by shapeways, nothing I can do.

[Welshy40]

I just want to run the B4 slipper as I already have one, is there a layshaft available to suit that?

Yes Alcyon can do you one but you have to lock the one way up. Ive extended the last design by 2.75mm and believe that should be enough to fit a B4 slipper. In two weeks i will know for definite

[alcyon]

I just want to run the B4 slipper as I already have one, is there a layshaft available to suit that?
Problem is if you want to use the B4 slipper, the VTS parts wont line up, and vice versa. Its best I only make 1 type of layshaft to save cost, so I guess we have to with welshy preference which VTS then I guess I will make only VTS version. For the optima mid however, it will the B4 standard slipper.

[Makattkd]

I will most likely be in for one of the shafts, sorry I am a bit behind the times I am only up to page 150 of this thread. Still digesting all the details!

[alcyon]

I will most likely be in for one of the shafts, sorry I am a bit behind the times I am only up to page 150 of this thread. Still digesting all the details!
Its not your fault, don't fret. We did not finalise the design yet. anyway I have a shaft with me now for the standard B4 clutch. let me test fit it into my ZX to see how it goes.

[Welshy40]

Problem is if you want to use the B4 slipper, the VTS parts wont line up, and vice versa. Its best I only make 1 type of layshaft to save cost, so I guess we have to with welshy preference which VTS then I guess I will make only VTS version. For the optima mid however, it will the B4 standard slipper.

No, by extending the threaded section out by another 2.75 to the end of the last design slipper at the side of the layshaft the B4 slipper should fit perfectly. The VTS slipper is basically based around a B4 slipper so will fit perfectly on this shaft. I should get a definite within two weeks.

My last design was to move the slipper plate closer to the motor plate so the gear cover gave plenty of room for use of the VTS, i did make a mistake in my measurements amd turned out i was 2.75mm too short at the slipper threaded end so was off a bit. My fault but we are at the end of testing and just need confirmation shortly to see if its a perfect fit for both slippers.

[Makattkd]

Went along to my first club race meeting tonight for a look. Excited much? Like a kid in a candy store! Can't wait to get my ZX up and racing!

[HKS_TRD]

Its not your fault, don't fret. We did not finalise the design yet. anyway I have a shaft with me now for the standard B4 clutch. let me test fit it into my ZX to see how it goes.

Would you want to sell this shaft then, it sounds like what I need

[Welshy40]

Would you want to sell this shaft then, it sounds like what I need

Dan, for the gearbox you will fit it into i would advise waiting a little while longer. Its going to be perfect.

[HKS_TRD]

Dan, for the gearbox you will fit it into i would advise waiting a little while longer. Its going to be perfect.

I'm OK to wait I was just getting a little confused in thinking that the final design was only going to work with the VTS slipper

[Welshy40]

Dan,

This is whats happening at the moment. This is the final stage and should suit both slippers. The hardend steel is for me as i use the one way and have it set loose, but the standard version Alcyon will be doing wont be hardend but can be done for more cost. if you dont like the one way then the standard layshaft is fine and as normal with Alcyon the finished product is an art form on its own.

[HKS_TRD]

OK I understand now
How many pieces is it, I thought it was just one but in the drawing you are specifying which sections need to be hardened which implies it is more than one piece.

I'm not sure if I do or don't want the one way but it would be nice to have he option, what are the pros and cons of running it?

On another topic, long story but I somehow now have an ezy-run, how decent are these, I haven't had a chance to even learn what the deal is with LiPo batteries and brushless motors, I'm still stuck in the days of brushed motors and 1200ma SCR cells!

[Welshy40]

OK I understand now
How many pieces is it, I thought it was just one but in the drawing you are specifying which sections need to be hardened which implies it is more than one piece.

I'm not sure if I do or don't want the one way but it would be nice to have he option, what are the pros and cons of running it?

On another topic, long story but I somehow now have an ezy-run, how decent are these, I haven't had a chance to even learn what the deal is with LiPo batteries and brushless motors, I'm still stuck in the days of brushed motors and 1200ma SCR cells!

One piece but the current one is not hardend and decided to send mine off to have the pole sections cut out and hardend steel welded in as i need it quite quickly. I made a mistake with just the threaded end by shortening it too much and didnt want to burden Alcyon with getting it done in time so have a machinist in the uk doing it.

On high grip for my style of driving the one way gives me a second a lap so am slower with a permanent 4wd. It gives me more speed in and out of corners at a tighter line with my tub chassis. But a lot of top guys on lower grip like clay and dirt the one way gets tightend to make the car total 4wd as its better on tracks like that.

Im unsure on the ezrun so cant help you there. Personally go for the HPI / Tekin RS Pro or LRP escs as they are rather good. The HPI has a built in switch so much neater. Motors, i love the losi exorlerin (i think thats how to spell it) or LRP X20 but havent tried anything else. Be warned use a 5.5, 6.5 or 7.5 only if you have built my gearbox as with no tensioners youll snap the rear and front belts.

Lipos unless you have the raised rear top deck mount you have to uses 4400 or less as the top deck mount gets in the way and stops the battery getting in. With the raised section a 5500 lipo saddle will fit but you must use the demon products banana plug for joining the two packs together in the middle as those plugs are lower meaning once the cells are located in the lipo trays and locked in place by the holder the connectors have enough space to avoid touching the top deck, so no shorting.

[HKS_TRD]

Thanks for that info

I need to pick out some shock towers for my tub car
I have your rear tower which looks like the ZX-S one but not sure which one to get for the front, the one you did that looks like the ZX-S one is the obvious choide but I'm not sure how I could use a ZX-R body with that, though I'm not certain what body will go on my tub car yet, its either Tomcat or ZX-R. Do you have pics of your car with the body on from the front?

[Welshy40]

Thanks for that info

I need to pick out some shock towers for my tub car
I have your rear tower which looks like the ZX-S one but not sure which one to get for the front, the one you did that looks like the ZX-S one is the obvious choide but I'm not sure how I could use a ZX-R body with that, though I'm not certain what body will go on my tub car yet, its either Tomcat or ZX-R. Do you have pics of your car with the body on from the front?

I use the semicircular or my zxs design tower with tomcat shell. I will update with a pic later as im unable to due to being at silverstone f1. Im front row on woodcote corner

[kek23k]

I was in the Woodcote stand too! Small world :D

[Welshy40]

Most true. Im burnt big time, what a day.

[Makattkd]

Poms and a hot summers day, Don't mix! Aloe Vera Gel and Asprin will help relieve the pain.

On a side note why don't the pargu alloy arm brackets fit/work? And what is the alternative? Sorry if this has been covered before, still only up to page 165.

[Welshy40]

Poms and a hot summers day, Don't mix! Aloe Vera Gel and Asprin will help relieve the pain.

On a side note why don't the pargu alloy arm brackets fit/work? And what is the alternative? Sorry if this has been covered before, still only up to page 165.

Yes us Poms may not handle the sun but ive drank many an Oz under the table. Boy what a holiday, in a stunning country where you feel safe, the people are tops but its what you dont see can kill you. Ok i was very hammered whilst flicking the ten or so red backs off me whilst waking up in a garden and lucky whilst very drunk not to have been bitten by the funnelweb i happened to pick up. The ozy saved my life by killing it. Still loved it there.

On to cars and paragus are narrower,its like he has made a mold but taken the original out before it sets so when he made more they came out smaller. Its possible he made an error with his measurements on the original he based it on but they are all narrower so means wishbones rub and width is slightly off and it makes a big difference to handling characteristics.

[Welshy40]

i just realised something. Racer mag with replica of Masamis XLS. Firstly the collection of buggies, well my design zxr is dead centre in white. Also page 110 bottom left red towel next to the chaps is my ZXR-S. Then page 109 top right im the one on the left eating my bacon and eggs and look as i felt quite rough.:thumbsup:

[alcyon]

i just realised something. Racer mag with replica of Masamis XLS. Firstly the collection of buggies, well my design zxr is dead centre in white. Also page 110 bottom left red towel next to the chaps is my ZXR-S. Then page 109 top right im the one on the left eating my bacon and eggs and look as i felt quite rough.:thumbsup:
got a scan of it ?

[Welshy40]

Not yet, but the pic of the zx based on my design is on here.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122353&page=2

[alcyon]

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/2013-06-30154316_zps69c5aa2f.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/2013-06-30154316_zps69c5aa2f.jpg.html)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/alcyon2sp/2013-06-30154326_zps879df2c1.jpg (http://s185.photobucket.com/user/alcyon2sp/media/2013-06-30154326_zps879df2c1.jpg.html)

Sorry I just couldn't resist when I saw this at Tesco's...

[Welshy40]

Quality. :woot:

[Welshy40]

Ok here is a picture of the mag pages so apologies for it not being fantastic. First page the Losi guys who work for Horizon were bottom left and I pitted next to them, very nice chaps, you can see my red Kyosho towel and my car sitting in the corner next to my best mate wearing the grey top Mr Nuclear RC David Belsten. Next page top right you can see me eating and apologioes for not having a hair cut, so looked a mess. Dave Belsten next to me and Dave Church just down from him.

[alcyon]

messy hair ? is that you with the glasses? correct me If I am wrong but it seems you have an army crop.

[Welshy40]

messy hair ? is that you with the glasses? correct me If I am wrong but it seems you have an army crop.

No army crop, I decided not to join the Marines. Glasses yes. :thumbsup:

[Qimb528]

anyone try to use shorty on vintage lazer?

[Welshy40]

For me, No as it upsets the balance. But no reason why you cant do a test and update us all.

[Welshy40]

Out of frustration in still not getting my layshaft back from my machinist here in the uk ive just done a rebuild of Oosh123 layshaft. Ok i had issues with it originally so did a rethink on it. Ive thrown the pulley that you lock onto the layshaft and taken the one way pulley and reversed it and put a few spacers in front thus pushing it out to where it should be. Then ive gone and added a zxs oneway in with a flanged bearing which also spaces the pulley to the correct position. Then a few washers and think on how the bearings are held in place by the locking washers on my cf gearbox and its done. Ok ive a little problem and need a worn or used one way plate for the zx or zxr so i can fit it properly but never the less the vts fits with 1mm gap between the back slipper plate and motor plate. Ok you cant use brakes due to the oneways but seeing as i dont use brakes who cares. Now as ive been bored ive started making another car, now just need my tub so that can get fitted to my racer then the chassis from that will go on this and game on

[Welshy40]

Well here are some crappy pics of my new build as I got a bit bored. Im actually contimplating doing a Touring car but am a bit puzzled on wishbones. Ive managed to find an old pair of front wishbones and have started drilling the new castor block holes but the rear wishbone are going to be a bit of a problem. Shock towers will be simple to redesign as I just lower them to account for the smaller shocks and then fit my Ferrari 250 GTO shell on and game on :woot::thumbsup:

[mintzant]

Sorry I'm a little bid confused!
It's zxrr or zxs?
And the slipper?
I'm a lazer zxr fun but I have the classic part LA33 for rear diff and I would like to find all graphite parts like yours...
Help please...

[Naushad]

This looks interesting James...you should dedicate a separate thread for this!

Well here are some crappy pics of my new build as I got a bit bored. Im actually contimplating doing a Touring car but am a bit puzzled on wishbones. Ive managed to find an old pair of front wishbones and have started drilling the new castor block holes but the rear wishbone are going to be a bit of a problem. Shock towers will be simple to redesign as I just lower them to account for the smaller shocks and then fit my Ferrari 250 GTO shell on and game on :woot::thumbsup:

[Welshy40]

Sorry I'm a little bid confused!
It's zxrr or zxs?
And the slipper?
I'm a lazer zxr fun but I have the classic part LA33 for rear diff and I would like to find all graphite parts like yours...
Help please...

Its a mix. Tom from Racer magazine named it a ZXR-S. slipper is still a proto but if you dont mind a permanent 4wd drivetrain then Alcyon will sell the layshaft needed. RW sell my 100t B4 type spur gear in white or black and the Associated VTS slipper and B4 back slipper plate are sold everywhere.

However my gear box is not so easy to make as certain items are very rare so am hopefully within two weeks will come up with a new design for the rear gearbox in plastic and have our friendly 3D maker sell it at a vastly cheaper cost than my cf version. The design is tensioning the rear belt to a specific tension to stop the belt snapping, so has to be set at the exact tension my carbon fibre gearbox has been set to so patience will be needed but will be worth it.

Still if i can locate one item and you can discuss with Alcyon on getting a layshaft (my latest design which he hasnt made yet) plus be prepared to dremel a rear shock tower mount in two ares then i can help you out but its not cheap.

Also the carbon fibre tub chassis will be available again soon so that may tempt you as well

[Welshy40]

This looks interesting James...you should dedicate a separate thread for this!

No need, its hearts a zxr thru and thru :thumbsup: However i may do it, in step by step build. I need to talk to my sponsor to get my Ferrari shell made and game on.

Tubs close to being molded so should have the cf tub hopefully start of August. Then with the gearbox will look stunning. Cf front and rear gearbox sides and chassis i know a lot of people wont want me to race it, but you know me.......:woot:

[Qimb528]

what body would fit the tube chassis?

[HKS_TRD]

Looks stunning James

Any more details on the CF front gearbox sides, sounds interesting

[Welshy40]

what body would fit the tube chassis?

Kamtec (links on bottom here) sell a tomcat shell. Picture is of the very first one made and thats the one im still using (green shell with red dragon on) Dan can confirm how good it looks for a five year old shell that gets usrd regularly. With the tub the shell with last a long time.

[Welshy40]

Looks stunning James

Any more details on the CF front gearbox sides, sounds interesting

No mate, im using Oosh's cf sided metal gearbox with of course my modification. Once ive sorted my gearbox and tub i see no reason why i cant have a think on how to do it.

[HKS_TRD]

I treated the ZX-R to a little something.

Does anyone have any of the 1200mah Sanyo Red SCR cells or even the regular yellow cells?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/RC%20Cars/ZX-RSCE_zpsdb4f936d.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/HKS_TRD/media/RC%20Cars/ZX-RSCE_zpsdb4f936d.jpg.html)

[Welshy40]

Why not lipos?

[Welshy40]

Dan,

As per your email pictures are posted. Have a look at page 157 and you should hopefully work out from that how to do it.

[HKS_TRD]

Just for shelfers wanted to keep electrics period correct

[HKS_TRD]

Dan,

As per your email pictures are posted. Have a look at page 157 and you should hopefully work out from that how to do it.

Thanks that helped. Where did you get the blue pivot blocks in the pics?

[Welshy40]

Thanks that helped. Where did you get the blue pivot blocks in the pics?

Teamline i believe.

[Welshy40]

Just for shelfers wanted to keep electrics period correct

Well we didnt use thise nicads. All were individual cells and i used 1700 scrcs and before that 1700 sce's and before that 1400scr's

[HKS_TRD]

Well we didnt use thise nicads. All were individual cells and i used 1700 scrcs and before that 1700 sce's and before that 1400scr's

The ones I mentioned were individual cells too. I didn't know they went to 1700SCRs the last cells I saw were either 1200SCR or 1700SCE, never saw 1400SCR either. I have alot of lost ground to cover!

[Welshy40]

The ones I mentioned were individual cells too. I didn't know they went to 1700SCRs the last cells I saw were either 1200SCR or 1700SCE, never saw 1400SCR either. I have alot of lost ground to cover!

1400scr's were megga punchy but found you could not crash once if using a 10 double otherwise dump mod and no A final.

1700 sce cells were less punchy but more run time. The scrc's were almost as punchy as the 1400s but you could treat them badly and still get good runs. These were black cells.

[Qimb528]

Since the new buggies of Kyosho have aluminum chassis, wonder how would an aluminum chassis be beneficial to ZX series.

[Welshy40]

Guys need a favour quite quickly.

I need a picture of the tub chassis with a standard size servo fitted, not a smaller one like S9551 futaba, need a big servo like 9401 or standard futaba servo plus all items with exception of the top deck or reciever but still need included all mounts and steering fitted as well. Need it as ive been asked to supply so they can make sure the mold is aligned correctly so they can make my test chassis.

Thanks

[Welshy40]

This ones for Iso. Are you drooling enough yet???? :drool:

[BORMAC]

Just a quick question for those of you who might know, I am driving a modded ZX and have the wider stance up front with the LA-59 'C-Hubs. I have broken one and have thoughts to investigate if there is an alloy version of this revised part. Also are the TEAMLINE hubs standard with the wider stance and increased caster angle?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks- Jason

[Welshy40]

Teamline are identical in every way but are much stronger and ball raced. I used the wider front with those teamline hubs. Yes they did a 5.0 and a 7.5 version (which is .5 more than standard 7) but thats for major grip such as carpet.

[BORMAC]

Thank you Welshy. I don't suppose you know of any of these wider Teamline hubs around for sale (or trade) do you? I would really like to race my Lazer this year and have been told how great these items are.
Cheers-Jason

[HKS_TRD]

I believe Rondoola has some.
I've dyed one set black and another a darker blue but can't remember how many more sets I have, I've started doing a bit of a cleanout here things have gotten out of control

[Welshy40]

Yup my buddy Rondola is a good starting point.

[BORMAC]

Many thanks Welshy. I have sent him a PM.

As per Mr Pargu I am shocked to hear there are some troubles with him. Ok, so I know his delivery times vary greatly but I recently had a special request and he met it and didn't even charge me shipping. I've always received my orders (in the end) and I really like the stuff he sells. I take it you have had some troubles with him...?
I really want a full set of alloy pivot blocks and was thinking of purchasing his. Should I hold off and if so can I purchase these someplace else by chance?

Thanks again- Jason

[Welshy40]

Many thanks Welshy. I have sent him a PM.

As per Mr Pargu I am shocked to hear there are some troubles with him. Ok, so I know his delivery times vary greatly but I recently had a special request and he met it and didn't even charge me shipping. I've always received my orders (in the end) and I really like the stuff he sells. I take it you have had some troubles with him...?
I really want a full set of alloy pivot blocks and was thinking of purchasing his. Should I hold off and if so can I purchase these someplace else by chance?

Thanks again- Jason

He never sent me a replacement for the incorrect pivot blocks i bought off him. He is not trust worthy as he ignored my last few emails. Im unsure if the silver versions ive seen on ebay are made by him or someone else, if not him then may be another alternative.

[Welshy40]

Ok Ive had an estimate so is not confirmation on costs yet but the tub chassis could possibly be around a £120.

As mentioned this is not confirmed for definite yet but if it is that price then I think that this is worth buying several.

What do you guys think?

Also after a discussion with Dan ive amended the screw driver hole to screw on or off the left gear cover and have extended to hole to an oval shape and believe may resolve this once and for all. I also didnt like other things Com Com did to my design such as taking out the oval hole for the servo so put that design back in as per the original proto type as it worked well. Ive also kept the wider rear end as on jimps the wider section gives more strength therefore protecting the chassis more. The bumper end a normal bumper does fit without issues.

[Welshy40]

Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

[Skidrow]

Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

whats the problem with the chassis on the left james?

[Welshy40]

whats the problem with the chassis on the left james?

It was done using the undertray as the base and didnt come out well. Holes were manually drilled so not in the correct place. Its basically no good but had it for fibrelyte to use as a starting point that was until i got my hands on my original chassis on the right

[Skidrow]

I see. Materialwise is it good? Thickness compared to the fibrelyte one?


It was done using the undertray as the base and didnt come out well. Holes were manually drilled so not in the correct place. Its basically no good but had it for fibrelyte to use as a starting point that was until i got my hands on my original chassis on the right

[Welshy40]

I see. Materialwise is it good? Thickness compared to the fibrelyte one?

Not really, it feels rough and brittle but is expected for a home made chassis.

The tub from fibrelyte is perfect however and they are basically the only maker for this car. Yes different names like comcom or wasp but all made in the same place but not with the same cell layout as per my right picture. This is a quality piece of kit, i used my proto chassis for ten years, three club events a week plus a race on the weekend and was still in good nick when i sold it on. The intention for the design was to protect my servo and esc from marshals feet and less flex but didnt realise how good a design it was.

[HKS_TRD]

Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

Great to see progress made on the new tub. I'm definitely in for one.
All this talk of tubs inspired me to mock up some parts on my used tub, I'll post some pics before the weekend is through

[HKS_TRD]

As promised some pics of my tub, along with my current Lazer collection of ZX, ZX-R MKII and ZX-S
Its only a mock up with parts that are meant for the ZX, some anodised bits are still in transit and it needs a strip and all new srews and a thorough clean.
I marked in Red where I need to cut the tub to fit the ZX body, as I am building a second tub I have almost decided to use this tub on the ZX shelfer.
I've already got a genuine clear gear cover on the way, I didn't like the way the repro one fit it was a little tight, probably works fine on a MKII where the front edge needs to be cut off anyway

When I strip it I'll start a new thread for it, sorry for all the pics

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[Welshy40]

Nice, i see they made a design flaw with the steering side sections. My original design was perfect and they tried to make it better. Doh!!! Still never thought the zx shell fitted.

[HKS_TRD]

Hi James

Can you post a pic of the steering section of your original tub?
I'm still at odds about cutting the tub but think I most likely will as its only a small mod

The ZX shell doesn't fit the ZX-R undertray and it turns out that after I have done this mod the ZX shell will probably fit the tub better than the ZX-R shell. The shell of my yellow MKII which is a genuine shell and not a smaller repro is a very tight fit around the front area of the tub

[alcyon]

Hi Welshy40, I have finally got time to run my LWB mid at a newly opened dirt track near where I live, and I find that the car holds up well in the rough stuff, no broken parts, just a few screws holding the shocks came loose. and the slipper works great. However I fond that the car does not handle the bumps so well. The track isn't smooth, with a lot of bumps and ruts, I had my car overturned countless times. of course this track is more suited to the 1/8 buggies. Is there any tips you can give me to make my car not be thrown off so easily when its in it's course. I really have trouble with the back end hopping out. Also , a startling revelation, The old kyosho tyres for the ZX-R, the W-50XX series, they actually grip better than the modern j concepts soft tires! Does kyosho still make those tyres ? I will be starting the new layshaft proto today.

[Welshy40]

Alcyon

I find softening the oil by 5wt on the back and maybe going down a spring strength is a good starting point. Maybe also trying a roll bar. Front oil should be heavier fractionally and also a heavier spring compared to the rear.

[Welshy40]

Who was after a Hyper clutch recently? I can locate a slipper disk where the spur gear attaches to but will be pricey unfortunately.

Also the correct part nunber for the layshaft is LAW12-1Z and you may find this on the japanese ebay.

Two available here. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kyosho-LAW12-1Z-Main-Shaft-Hyper-Clutch-/190828828157?pt=US_Radio_Control_Control_Line&hash=item2c6e48d5fd#ht_1599wt_958

[alcyon]

welshy, i have broken a LA-59 a few months back, and I saw yhis one sold by fireboy125
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARP-LA-03-Aluminum-Front-Hubs-LA-27-Uprgade-Kyosho-Lazer-ZX-ZX-R-Sport-Alpha-/400536360469?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d41d3d615
Have you used this before ? How strong are they? It seems a bearing is only used for the upper side. Any comments ?

[Welshy40]

Its good but ive bent them in the past. You could try Rondola and see if he has any more teamline hubs available. They wont break and come with bearings otherwise the hubs that the 3d maker sells are copies of the teamline but the plastics may be weaker.

[alcyon]

Its good but ive bent them in the past. You could try Rondola and see if he has any more teamline hubs available. They wont break and come with bearings otherwise the hubs that the 3d maker sells are copies of the teamline but the plastics may be weaker.

I have asked rondoola and depending on his answer , i may have to still get the ones fireboy125 sells. For the price of $40, i could buy 3 La-27 from another seller. Do you think i should take my chances and go for several the LA-27s ?

[Welshy40]

Why not just find a standard kit one, get two of them so you will have a spare just in case, though they rarely break. Still if Rondola has some buy one as it wont break. Its up to you mate, as if the alloy one feels right go for it.

[HKS_TRD]

I have a pair of those alloy ones, they have been anodised blue for the ZX shelfer. They are in transit but when they come back I will confirm that they have zero caster so the left and right are identical, which may not be ideal for you

They do take a bearing on the top and bottom, jethobby racing sells then direct and I think they do a version with some caster

[alcyon]

I have a pair of those alloy ones, they have been anodised blue for the ZX shelfer. They are in transit but when they come back I will confirm that they have zero caster so the left and right are identical, which may not be ideal for you

They do take a bearing on the top and bottom, jethobby racing sells then direct and I think they do a version with some caster

Daniel, 0 caster is fine by me, i just want something bullet proof. Also, is there any knuckles that are easier to get than OT-16 and will fit into LA-27 without modifications ?

[HKS_TRD]

I can confirm they are zero degrees caster. For knuckles the 3racing ones only require a small mod. I filed a pair by hand easily.
Where are people sourcing bearings from?

[alcyon]

Anyone know if rondoola is around? Haven't heard from him or some time, and i am itching for some alloy hubs...

[Welshy40]

I can confirm they are zero degrees caster. For knuckles the 3racing ones only require a small mod. I filed a pair by hand easily.
Where are people sourcing bearings from?

Ebay for bearings, if racing get the acer ceramic ones.

[Welshy40]

Anyone know if rondoola is around? Haven't heard from him or some time, and i am itching for some alloy hubs...

He is around, pm him again and ask.