MR-4BX Factory arrived !

[Jonathan]

Ive been itching to get a BX so the update seemed like a good time to go for it. Came today from Champ :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/MR-4BXF.jpg

[Bathy]

Nice!!! Can you post some pictures when it's built please?

[AndyM]

ye..can ya? :)

also, where can you get the factory one from?

[johnnyboy]

mmmmmm. I am jealous. Can't wait for mine!

[Southwell]

Nice!!! Can you post some pictures when it's built please?

Great, you got him started again!

[ryan]

How many of them are you going to buy Bathy?:D

[AndyM]

lol...where can ya get them from???

[Jonathan]

It came from RC-Champ in Japan, Ill gladly post some pictures when its done, but I cant promise how soon Ill have it finished !

[cabbynate]

Is this the one with the new body shell and one piece chassis?

[dummy]

Ive been itching to get a BX so the update seemed like a good time to go for it. Came today from Champ :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/MR-4BXF.jpg

can you post the parts list? i'm curious what is different on the factory version.

[Jonathan]

Heres the parts list.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts1.jpg


Cabbynate, Its the kit announced here, released March 30th.

http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/0703/bxf.pdf

Has the new body, but still uses the 2 piece chassis. AFAIK a 1 piece chassis is not available from Yokomo.



(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts2.jpg)

[cabbynate]

Thanks for the info Jonathan. Glad to see it has not changed much from the original kit. Just looks like they added a few extras and a new body style.:cool:

[dummy]

Heres the parts list.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts1.jpg


Cabbynate, Its the kit announced here, released March 30th.

http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/0703/bxf.pdf

Has the new body, but still uses the 2 piece chassis. AFAIK a 1 piece chassis is not available from Yokomo.



(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/Parts2.jpg)

thanks for that.

only things I can see are different are the rear top deck and rear shock shafts. anyone see anything else?

[Jonathan]

I can also see

Pre assembled hardened drive shafts.

Front suspension brace is different.

Front diff is one way.

Rear turnbuckles are a different length.

I saw mention of a rear belt tensioner leading up to release, but I cant see it in the manual ?

[Nick Goodall]

Are there still a load of mods you have to do to these now? I hear they didn't do so well at Tiverton :(

[Lee Martin]

Bathy! calm it!!!

u kno wat ur getting next!

[millzy]

yeah a better golf

[Lee Martin]

lol before that he wants the bubbles!

[millzy]

yeah but he needs to get to the tracks to let the bubbles float around

[Lee Martin]

arr..well hes got enough dolla!

[NeilD]

RC Champ are the best, dirt cheap and mega fast delivery.:)

[jimmy]

Can we keep it on-topic guys?:)

I do like that new shell but it's a bit close to the bj4we shell I have to say.

[NeilD]

I've ordered it from champ along with a few other bit n bobs but they are now closed until the 20th. I'm not sure how good it looks from the pics but it's worth a punt.

[ryan]

I do like that new shell but it's a bit close to the bj4we shell I have to say.

Definetly jimmy, the first time i looked at it i thought cragg was running a BJ4:p lol

[mattym0310]

i have noticed also that the hotbodies shell is based on the bj4we aswell. :D.

[NeilD]

i have noticed also that the hotbodies shell is based on the bj4we aswell. :D.

Isn't the whole car?

[mattym0310]

haha! yeah it is, looks exactly the same, jjust blacker and maybe with abit of purple instead of blue :S i wonder if they drive the same?

anyway back to subject, like jimmy said. anyone taken their BXfactorys out for runs yet?? anyone got piccys??

[dummy]

I can also see

Pre assembled hardened drive shafts.

Front suspension brace is different.

Front diff is one way.

Rear turnbuckles are a different length.

I saw mention of a rear belt tensioner leading up to release, but I cant see it in the manual ?

its on the parts list: BX-RBT

is it the same manual and setup sheet?

[4times]

these pics show the rear shocks mounted behind the rear shock tower and the towers look extra thick....however, masami's car has the rear shocks mounted on the front of his thinner rear shock tower.

anyone have any info on this? which one is included in new kit?

[dummy]

these pics show the rear shocks mounted behind the rear shock tower and the towers look extra thick....however, masami's car has the rear shocks mounted on the front of his thinner rear shock tower.

anyone have any info on this? which one is included in new kit?

masami runs the standard tower which according to the parts list is in the factory version. the other tower is a custom made tower i believe is japanese. the tower is mounted on the front of the bulkhead as they are running a non-standard rear top plate which has the belt going under the plate. the top plate mounts further back on the bulkhead for strength.

well that's how i think it works anyway.

[Jonathan]

its on the parts list: BX-RBT

is it the same manual and setup sheet?

:p thats so weird, I looked at that bloody drawing so hard and couldnt see it, now youv'e said I saw it in about 10 secs ! Cheers.

So it does have the rear belt tensioner.

Heres a pic of the setup sheet.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/jonathan808/MR-4BXFsetup.jpg

Also, as dummy just confirmed, the factory kit uses the standard shock tower with the shocks on the front.

I also noticed Masami running the original shell at Cactus even though they used a new one in his colour scheme on the promo shots. Another discrepancy would also be the anti roll bars on the promo shots, no ARB's in the factory kit.

[NeilD]

Billy Eastons BX has run the belt under the top deck for quite a while now. It seems, initially, quite easy to copy his rear shocks set up? If Masami is running the standard rear set up and the Americans the modified version which was offering the best grip at the Cactus, anyone know?

The set up sheet is the same.

[Jimbo]

Notice also the other two cars have a new upper camber link plate at the front. I saw these on some Japanese cars way back at the worlds warmup. Would like a body off pic, but assume none available?
Those towers are mega thick on the American (?) version(s).
But Masami was still fastest Yokomo with a 'standard' looking factory kit and old shell?
Notice pics of Neil C's car from Tivvy had Bradders parts (chassis, towers etc) but gone back to Yokomo Shocks.
I really wish we could get more factory support of what the heck is going on with the car, whether it is officially better with the rear camber mod, new towers and shock positions etc.
I mean, has it's best result been the Italy worlds where essentially it was a standard setup (from what we can gather), with the rock hard black springs? Cragg looks like he hasn't had too much luck with it since then. And obviously Lee M was not happy about it... What can be said is the Yokomo's perhaps didn't break as much as some other cars, looking at the races cut short by breakages at Cactus.

Rant over, sorry...

I would like to know what parts I should upgrade from the standard original car to make it better, so please let us know what you think of the new version guys.

[dummy]

Notice also the other two cars have a new upper camber link plate at the front. I saw these on some Japanese cars way back at the worlds warmup. Would like a body off pic, but assume none available?
Those towers are mega thick on the American (?) version(s).
But Masami was still fastest Yokomo with a 'standard' looking factory kit and old shell?
Notice pics of Neil C's car from Tivvy had Bradders parts (chassis, towers etc) but gone back to Yokomo Shocks.
I really wish we could get more factory support of what the heck is going on with the car, whether it is officially better with the rear camber mod, new towers and shock positions etc.
I mean, has it's best result been the Italy worlds where essentially it was a standard setup (from what we can gather), with the rock hard black springs? Cragg looks like he hasn't had too much luck with it since then. And obviously Lee M was not happy about it... What can be said is the Yokomo's perhaps didn't break as much as some other cars, looking at the races cut short by breakages at Cactus.

Rant over, sorry...

I would like to know what parts I should upgrade from the standard original car to make it better, so please let us know what you think of the new version guys.


i'm assuming the mega thick rear tower has the same geometry as the original. i think you get a similar effect running longer shafts on the lower holes as running 'bradders' tower with longer shafts on the top outer hole.

[NeilD]

The one piece chassis lowers the rear diff by approximately 3mm. I'm thinking of trying the two piece again for a bit of a comparison.

[NeilD]

The team drivers were instructed to run the Yokomo shocks rather than Associated ones probably because of the upcoming Worlds they want a full Yoke running and not with other manufacturers bits on?

[Bastos]

For the shocks, like other drivers, I've try the two ( asso and yok ).
Naturaly, they are different, the asso are more smoother, I think because of the O rings, shaft and O ring are free...the yok less...I'm sure you have note it on track...
Now, for the choice of UK Yok drivers, I'm sure it's to get the car 100% yokomo...

[NeilD]

The Yoke shocks are as good as the Assoc ones as long as you regularly change the O rings.

[cabbynate]

Billy Eastons BX has run the belt under the top deck for quite a while now. It seems, initially, quite easy to copy his rear shocks set up? If Masami is running the standard rear set up and the Americans the modified version which was offering the best grip at the Cactus, anyone know?

The set up sheet is the same.
Looking at the "new rear shock position" it looks like they mounted a rear shock tower on the back side of the biff housing as well as leaving one on the front, then just mounting the shock tower onto the rear one?

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/tiverton2007national/4wd/thumbs/tn_yok06.jpg (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/tiverton2007national/4wd/imagepages/yok06.html)

[Bastos]

The Yoke shocks are as good as the Assoc ones as long as you regularly change the O rings.

Yes they are good, but they don't have the same size...yok are thicker and their inside diameter is smaller... Try one day with new Yok and Asso Orings with a shaft on hand...:)

[NeilD]

Looking at the "new rear shock position" it looks like they mounted a rear shock tower on the back side of the biff housing as well as leaving one on the front, then just mounting the shock tower onto the rear one?

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/tiverton2007national/4wd/thumbs/tn_yok06.jpg (http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/tiverton2007national/4wd/imagepages/yok06.html)

Thats Neil's car and it looks like as you say they have put the shock tower onto the rear along with the alloy mount. We could do with some detailed information about these mod's and why certain team drivers do them and others don't.

[NeilD]

Yes they are good, but they don't have the same size...yok are thicker and their inside diameter is smaller... Try one day with new Yok and Asso Orings with a shaft on hand...:)


I'll give it a go buddy.:)

[Richard Lowe]

They are trying it to get more weight over the rear apparently, it's nothing to do with Yokomo it's one of Mick's concoctions I think :)

[NeilD]

I've seen one of the cars in the flesh tonight.

[Jimbo]

Hey Neil, did you get ony goss on it?

[NeilD]

Only that it's meant to be better over the ripples, no mention of more rear grip. It was difficult to judge it as it wasn't the best driver piloting it.

[johnnyboy]

Any update on the new car? Pics?

[Jonathan]

Its built but no body yet....


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jmberry/MR-4BXF%20finished.jpg (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jmberry/MR-4BXF%20finished.jpg)

[NeilD]

Looking good any ideas for the shell design?

[Jonathan]

Yes, the shell :)

I had a strong idea on how I wanted it but to try would have meant investing in the airbrush and paint and then as my first attempt how would it turn out ?

So I have dispatched it to a very popular shell painter to work his magic, I cant wait to see how it turns out ! Watch this space.

[cabbynate]

Anyone no the part # for the new body shell?:confused:

[NeilD]

Good idea Jonathan it's the only way i can get a decent looking shell.

The part number for it is BX-101F

[cabbynate]

Good idea Jonathan it's the only way i can get a decent looking shell.

The part number for it is BX-101F
Thanks NeiD!!!:)

[NeilD]

No worries, get it from RC Champ in Japan it will cost you feck all.

[cabbynate]

No worries, get it from RC Champ in Japan it will cost you feck all.

Yes, I sent Masa at RC Champ an email looking for:
1-BX-003RH
1-BX-017
1-BX-018
1-BX-010FH
1-BX-010RH
1-SD-203
1-SD-412
1-ZC-206A
and the New 2007 body shell.
He should get back to me soon with a price....

[4times]

ordered mine today....u.s. doesn't have factory team edition yet, so ordered from japan. will try to post some pics when i get it all together.

[NeilD]

Yes, I sent Masa at RC Champ an email looking for:
1-BX-003RH
1-BX-017
1-BX-018
1-BX-010FH
1-BX-010RH
1-SD-203
1-SD-412
1-ZC-206A
and the New 2007 body shell.
He should get back to me soon with a price....

Masa is a legend i get my stuff in around 5 working days from him.

[cabbynate]

Masa is a legend i get my stuff in around 5 working days from him.
Good to here. I'm still wighting for a response........

[NeilD]

Don't worry mate, Masa usually replies in 24hrs the only time he didn't (it took 48hrs) was because the shop had closed for a week.

[cabbynate]

Don't worry mate, Masa usually replies in 24hrs the only time he didn't (it took 48hrs) was because the shop had closed for a week.
WOW!!!!:) I can't believe the savings. Over $80.00 usd!!!!!!
The same order here in the US from a US supplier would have cost over $200.00!!!!!!! I paid $109.50 Shipped!!!!!!:) ;)
I think the Body shell was $12.00 USD instead of $29.99.
Ya gotta love it Mate....
Thanks again for that part #......
Nate

[NeilD]

Thats a really good price.

[cabbynate]

4 day shipping!!!! Faster than shipping from within the US. The new body shell (BX-101F) comes less the under tray though. Other than that the hole experience was ace!!!!!!!!!!:) Now I just need that rear upper deck and I will have the updated buggy. They did not have that in stock.....

[IndyYokomo]

Is the undertray available separately?

[NeilD]

I think it's the same as the current one?

[cabbynate]

I think it's the same as the current one?
The current one came with the body shell. We would need to see the parts list of the Factory BX to find out.

[Jonathan]

Heres an extract from the BXF parts list.

It shows the new body clear enough, so the undertray could be BX-102 as that isnt on the original BX parts list, no price next to it though ?

[Jonathan]

Ok, I can confirm BX-102 is the undertray and pulley covers, price shown as Y1,380.

[Mitch]

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/
Is that the URL of the RC Champ you guys refering to? Is there an english site? Cant seem to find it:(
Also, just curious...do they have a product list or something?? Cant really read anything from that site:(
Any help would be great! Thank you!

[Jonathan]

This is the only english page they have, no list of parts.

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/Champ_International/International_index.htm

Just follow what it says on there and you cant go wrong

[cabbynate]

Ok, I can confirm BX-102 is the undertray and pulley covers, price shown as Y1,380.

Sweet, thanks Jonathan!!!;)

[dummy]

Is this the one with the new body shell and one piece chassis?

what does the one-piece chassis do? more or less grip?

[NeilD]

It lowers the rear diff down and gives more grip.

[johnnyboy]

The Factory kit has the regular chassis.

[dummy]

It lowers the rear diff down and gives more grip.

but it also raises the batteries relative to the rear diff if you run the same ride height.:wtf:

[bigred5765]

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/
Is that the URL of the RC Champ you guys referring to? Is there an English site? Cant seem to find it:(
Also, just curious...do they have a product list or something?? Cant really read anything from that site:(
Any help would be great! Thank you!

try google language tools works okish
a bit pigeon English but better than original page

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rc-champ.co.jp%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

[cabbynate]

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/
Is that the URL of the RC Champ you guys refering to? Is there an english site? Cant seem to find it:(
Also, just curious...do they have a product list or something?? Cant really read anything from that site:(
Any help would be great! Thank you!
Just send them an email to champ_international@yahoo.co.jp and ask them if they have what you are looking for in English. Add the name brand and part # and they will respond with in a day or two.

[neiloliver]

Were the 'Factory' versions limited edition? Neither 'RC Champ' in Japan or 'RC Model' in Hong Kong have any left, with no idea when they will have stock again. It is not shown on the CML website either, only the original kit.

N

[albertobdq]

Hi guys,

Since now I'm writing with Masa "Japanesse Felipe" :p to order a complete car with a lot of parts I have the complete part list for the BXF

I've prepared an spreadsheet with all MR-4BX references that calculates the cost of the order (without shipping) while you enter the quantities.

I've added 3 new columns to the part list. 1st one is the quantity of every reference, cells turn to blue if you enter some amount in order to find them easily. Column 2 (Price Yen) calculates the price of that reference in Yen, at the end of clolumn 2 you'll find the final price of the order in Yen. Colum 3 converts colum 2 values to Euros, that's for me to get a better idea of the cost.

If any of you wnat to use just let me know.

Jimmy, could you upload an excell document here?

[NeilD]

Alberto, do you order your parts from RC Champ in Japan? They are the cheapest supplier and ship Worldwide.

[albertobdq]

I know RC Champ thanks to Jimmy. Now I'm ordering a BXF and every spare part I could need :p The complete order cost more than 100.000... does anyone want to sponsor me?:cool:

[neiloliver]

My MR4-BX Factory arrived today from RC Champ. I just need to download the English manual now...

Neil

[k£v!n]

How long did it take to arrive and did you have to pay tax?

[cabbynate]

:eh?: ;) :cool: :D !!!!!!!!!

[Micha_MX4]

My MR4-BX Factory arrived today from RC Champ. I just need to download the English manual now...

Neil


Hi Neil,

where can I download the manual? just have the jap version...

www.yokomousa.com -> I got the BX manual, but the factory manual?

Thanks,
Micha

[Buck Heard]

I'm intersted in purchasing one of these kits. Anyone know if they are still available? RC-Champ still the best source?

[DaveG28]

Gonna try and build it in time for the weekend Neil?

[Buck Heard]

I'm interested in purchasing one of these kits. Anyone know if they are still available? RC-Champ still the best source?

[B44&501xRacerEX]

My 501x is the same car....what's the deal did tamiya copy yokomo?
I doubt, but they have had a nice history together.
Back in the 80's someone told me associated and yokomo were together.

This car looks so similar to the 501x I might have to buy the pulleys for it.:thumbsup:

[JohnM]

My 501x is the same car....what's the deal did tamiya copy yokomo?


In a word yes, seems after the 05 Worlds everybody either copied the BJ4, or the BX:bored:

At least Scumacher are doing something different with the SX :thumbsup: