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Rob
22-04-2007, 07:10 PM
I'm hopefully going to be doing my first national at Kidderminster in a few weeks (I'm quite high on the reserve list). Wanting to sort out my tyres.

I'd guess it will be Schumacher Yellows in the dry, but what will be best in damp conditions and fully wet?
Lee Martin
22-04-2007, 07:13 PM
bb pinks or greens
ashleyb4
22-04-2007, 07:13 PM
Nope Ballistic mini spike green in the dry. And im not sure about the wet.

A
bert digler
22-04-2007, 07:14 PM
I'm hopefully going to be doing my first national at Kidderminster in a few weeks (I'm quite high on the reserve list). Wanting to sort out my tyres.

I'd guess it will be Schumacher Yellows in the dry, but what will be best in damp conditions and fully wet?

ballistic buggy greens or pinks in the wet depends how affluent u are :D
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 07:17 PM
Nope Ballistic mini spike green in the dry. And im not sure about the wet.

A

Greens in the dry..? Greens are used in the wet on most UK multisurface tracks, i can't see them working well in the dry green mini PINS worked well; however.. these are not allowed for this years nat.

I'll personally be using schumy yellows in the dry, and in a good rainfall ballistic green spikes.. i want to stay away from pinks if i can due to the wear rate.. but pink is also an option.
ashleyb4
22-04-2007, 07:21 PM
Me and kevin did some testing at the first round of the winter series at kiddy and yellow's where all over the place. It was uncontrolable. So we went to greens and they where alot better. Yellows are bad around kiddy.

A
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 07:24 PM
That's in the winter though, the national will be in May, and with this months weather already being pretty hot, in the dry with a nice bit of sun, greens wont be on pace imo, yellows will be the ticket from whats been going around.

Although, it's your own preference.
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 07:26 PM
to reprove yellows will be the ticket in the dry..

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/kiddy110307/

Most, if not all cars have yellow schumys on in the last series.
tyreman
22-04-2007, 07:39 PM
Me and kevin did some testing at the first round of the winter series at kiddy and yellow's where all over the place. It was uncontrolable. So we went to greens and they where alot better. Yellows are bad around kiddy.

A

Ashley,
You and Kev knock yourself out on your BB greens, but if it's dry then the only tyre choice is Yellow mini's. You only use BB green SPIKES if it's raining.
Kopite
22-04-2007, 07:42 PM
dry-yellow schumacher mini spikes.
damp-bb green spikes
soaking wet-bb pink spikes.

this seems to be the general view of most people

gonna be an expensive day tyre-wise methinks!!:(
ashleyb4
22-04-2007, 07:45 PM
It was a bit greesy so yellows will proberly work if you think about it in a logical way.

A
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 07:46 PM
keep faith stan, i'm sure it wont be 'too' bad. It depends on the layout and speed of the track.. same for most places really !

If it's wet, then it could go wrong.. but roll on sun!!!!
emzy
22-04-2007, 07:48 PM
*remembers the hail stone of last year*
Kopite
22-04-2007, 07:54 PM
can we make it dog slow then, so we can get away with using schumacher blues? mmm, cheapness....:cool:
Rob
22-04-2007, 07:56 PM
dry-yellow schumacher mini spikes.
damp-bb green spikes
soaking wet-bb pink spikes.

this seems to be the general view of most people

gonna be an expensive day tyre-wise methinks!!:(

Cheers. Out of interest, whats the difference between green and pink compound, is pink softer?

I'm not going to use new set each run. Am probably going to take 3 sets of yellows use them 2 runs each, then can be used afterwards for club racing.
Kopite
22-04-2007, 07:57 PM
yeah, pinks are softer. they won't last long
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 07:58 PM
Pink is softer yeah

I've set my self a limit this year so money dosnt get out of control. 2 pairs of tyres each day on a national, and an extra 2 for when the weather is bad.

It worked very well at tiverton, of all tracks.. the rest of the year should be ok.

I may splash out abit at southport though......
Rob
22-04-2007, 08:02 PM
What about fronts for 2WD, would I need both BB green and pink fronts or could you get away with using bb green fronts for both damp and wet.
Kopite
22-04-2007, 08:06 PM
yellow minis are a good all rounder, although people will use the bb spikes on the front too (massive steering from them though!)

I guess a lot of it is down to personal preference
bert digler
22-04-2007, 08:07 PM
can we make it dog slow then, so we can get away with using schumacher blues? mmm, cheapness....:cool:

youll get a day outa yellows mate;)
PaulRotheram
22-04-2007, 08:19 PM
yellow minis are a good all rounder, although people will use the bb spikes on the front too (massive steering from them though!)

I guess a lot of it is down to personal preference

BB have stopped making 2wd fronts now i belive?
Kopite
22-04-2007, 08:23 PM
i've seen people use the BB 4wd fronts
Richard Lowe
22-04-2007, 08:39 PM
I can't see yellow minispikes not working if it's dry, it's a multisurface track; no different to Batley/Southport....
losixxx
22-04-2007, 08:50 PM
I can't see yellow minispikes not working if it's dry, it's a multisurface track; no different to Batley/Southport....

the astro is different type to both the above. shorter pile
ryan
22-04-2007, 08:55 PM
BB have stopped making 2wd fronts now i belive?
Through the Tiverton winter series we where running 4wd's on the front of the 2wd. Worked really well but not sure if it will do the same for kiddy:o
matdodd
23-04-2007, 12:10 AM
Yellow mini spikes are fine as long as its dry but as soon as the track gets damp the grips very poor:( lets just hope its dry then we can just run loads of yellows :(
_sleigh_
23-04-2007, 07:30 AM
If you use the BB 4wd spike on the front of a 2WD, then cut down the beading and mount them in the same way we did for the Losi Stud at Tiverton.

As for Yellows, they were good at the last Winter Series meeting and you could do 2 runs easy (although it was cooler temp.) Some drivers might even get 3 runs.
tyreman
23-04-2007, 07:36 AM
yellow minis are a good all rounder, although people will use the bb spikes on the front too (massive steering from them though!)

I guess a lot of it is down to personal preference

Not unless you are going to use BB 4wd fronts on a 2wd, as the 2wd fronts have been discontinued so are no longer comercially avalible and not allowed at nationals.

At the last round of the winter series I ran 1 set of yellow mini's all day. The grip was good until the final, when the temperatue dropped and the damp affected the grip levels, other than that it was good.
Rob
23-04-2007, 07:40 AM
Not unless you are going to use BB 4wd fronts on a 2wd, as the 2wd fronts have been discontinued so are no longer comercially avalible and not allowed at nationals.


Can't use the 2WD fronts? More expense then, already had some green 2WD fronts mounted!
Kopite
23-04-2007, 11:14 AM
however much i agree with the expense issue, i think banning tyres that aren't commercially available is the only way to go.

please please let it be sunny!
modelimages
23-04-2007, 11:21 AM
i have 1 pair of TO5 bb 2wd greens left in the shop, so technically they are commercially available
jimmy
23-04-2007, 11:22 AM
I've got about 3/4 sets of fronts- have to keep them for regionals I guess.
Yellow mini spikes are really good and what I ran last year.. when it rained / hailed though it was useless and I had to take the car off the track as I couldn't even drive it.

I think I am way down the reserve list for Kid so I won't have to worry about tyres too much
Rob
23-04-2007, 01:45 PM
So what about 2WD fronts, will Schumacher yellows be ok in both dry and damp conditions, what would be recommend in really wet?
tyreman
23-04-2007, 02:07 PM
Schumacher green mini's
wacattack
23-04-2007, 02:13 PM
Has there never been a national/regional at Kiddy before? Why is there so much ambiguity around which tyres to use?
jimmy
23-04-2007, 02:16 PM
I think they always used ballistic mini pins in recent times ?!? I must have been one of the only ones running mini spikes last year, just because I couldn't be bothered to buy loads of pins.
Kopite
23-04-2007, 02:24 PM
cos bb green pins work in all conditions, whereas it's not quite so cut and dry with spikes.

it's a ball ache:(
emzy
23-04-2007, 02:30 PM
I liked those PHAT tyres we used to use in 4wd if it was really dry... blockheads or sprints or something?

I always thought my car looked HOT with them on.

Yep, I'm a girl, I like pretty things.
Kopite
23-04-2007, 03:10 PM
what the bloody hell are blockheads?:wtf:
emzy
23-04-2007, 03:25 PM
Blockheads - http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/ProdInfo/LOS/450/LOSA7282S-450.jpg
Stu
04-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Sprints.
bigred5765
04-05-2007, 07:48 PM
so do they work in the wet or the dry i have a few pairs
matdodd
05-05-2007, 09:58 AM
The dry, There best when its hot though
bigred5765
05-05-2007, 10:17 AM
nice one thanks for that,
wonder if theyll fit on the 2wd lol a la tivy
super__dan
05-05-2007, 10:30 AM
Not unless you are going to use BB 4wd fronts on a 2wd, as the 2wd fronts have been discontinued so are no longer comercially avalible and not allowed at nationals.
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I believe that to be an opinion and not necesarrily fact based on people using 2wd front spikes at Tivvy. My local shop has them in stock as I bought 2 pairs last week so they are commercially available as far as I'm concerned.

Seems Stu has emailed Paul Worsley (according to that other thread) to get this officially clarified.
losixxx
08-05-2007, 01:56 PM
well it looks like its going to be wet for the weekend so ballistic buggy it is

mark from CDS will be going to cml wednesday/thursday so if you want any ballistic's phone him on 01527 577175 and i will bring them with me friday. payment to mark on phone or me trackside is fine.

remember 15% off for 10 pairs or more

chris
SPRCIAL AGENT
09-05-2007, 02:24 PM
You should be able to run the BB 2wd fronts as they are still in the shops and you can still get hold of them. They don't make them any more but that will not make them illegal. They have been manufactured in mass and they are ok to run if you want. The rule is to stop one off specials for team drivers I think. Last year people ran losi 6 rows at telford in the wet and they have not made them in 5 years or so and that was ok!

run them, they will be fine