Titchfield Setups

[mikeyscott]

An area to post and discuss set-ups for TORCH.

[niggs98]

hiya all here is the setup on my car from the morning practise

front

3 hole pistons drilled to 55
32.5 wt oil losi
old grey springs
17.5mm ball cup
no limiters inside but o-ring on outside
tower middle
wishbone middle
ride height drive shafts just below level
track 1mm with bw brace for strengh
10 degree hubs with castle removed to lower outer ballstud
10 degree wishbone mount
longest camber link with 0mm washer on inside and no washers outside
10 mm space on steering link
1 degree of camber
0 toe in/out


rear

3 hole 54 pistons
27.5 oil losi
old red/brown springs
ful lenth turnbukle ball cup with non threads showing
no limiters outside or inside
tower middle
wishbone inside (hole replicated on rear of wishbone)
rideheight driveshafts level
wheel base, long (dry) short (wet)
rear bulkhead altered with 2 extra holes drilled directly above the originals, (send me an email addy so i can send you pics)
1mm washer on rear mount
0 on front mount (you will have to dremel the top of the front of the wishbone so it doesnt rub against the purple alloy mount and bind up the suspension)
shocks mounted in kit position the wishbone, ( if monted on the rear, this numbs the car down so you can add more steering to it and makes it better across the bumps)
3 degrees of toe in
camberlink longest inside and middle on hub.
3mm washers on inner plate

aditional info
diffs both in low position
overdrive pulley on front
stiff chassis used
solid 4wd
high speed internal ratios used
5.5 on 22-23/83
40c 5300 lipos
sp gt2.0 pro

any questions feel free to ask

[Randall34]

That is a proper in depth set up, damn i wish i had a Cat SX.

[Matt-h]

Nathan, thats brilliant, thanks for taking the time to do that.

Matt

[Crazy L]

Holy Crap, based purely on Mr Ralls in depth set-up, I may purchase an SX especially :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[niggs98]

Holy Crap, based purely on Mr Ralls in depth set-up, I may purchase an SX especially :lol::lol::lol::lol:

that is the best comment i think i have ever heard about one of my setups :D. if any of you need any further help feel free to ask. i shall be posting other setups on her shortly for x6 etc

[mikeyscott]

that is the best comment i think i have ever heard about one of my setups :D. if any of you need any further help feel free to ask. i shall be posting other setups on her shortly for x6 etc

Awesome and I'll be trying this out pretty soon. Probably not this weekend due to it looking very wet again...

[Randall34]

Cheers Nathan,
Dc has convinced me to try the X-6 again, so a set-up from you would be well worth a drink, if it works for me - the next time you go to TORCH i'll buy you a pint at the cricketers.

[mikeyscott]

Cheers Nathan,
Dc has convinced me to try the X-6 again, so a set-up from you would be well worth a drink, if it works for me - the next time you go to TORCH i'll buy you a pint at the cricketers.

LOL hang on hang on did we say bribery was allowed at TORCH! :p

Neil, will reply to your mail today. Was out last night

[niggs98]

hell its as good a reason as any to post my x6 setup lol. will sort it in the next fewdays for you

[mikeyscott]

hell its as good a reason as any to post my x6 setup lol. will sort it in the next fewdays for you

Tempted to try the Schumacher shocks again instead of the Losi shocks.

Also was it BB spikes - greens or pinks? Pinks I imagine?

Also tempted to run the wishbones the right way round again, but without the holes 4mm higher

[niggs98]

will be a easy try then mike. the rear wishbones as high as you can make then in kit form is a damn good setup with everything else that is above. definatly flip the rear wishbones back the correct way. you will notice the improvment across the bumps straight away

yes it was pink bb spikes ;)

[mikeyscott]

Shocks to the rear or front, that's my current dilema. Wishbones are back as kit.

[niggs98]

front

spring, black
oil 35 losi
piston red
outer hole on wishbone middle on tower
caster block 30 degree
camber link outer and outer hole with 3mm under inner ball stud
hub height low
forward hole in akerman plate

rear
spring, pink
oil 27.5 losi
piston red
inner hole on wishbone, inner on tower
espeed hangers in upper position
outer hole on hub for camberlink
1.2mm roll bar used
long wheel base on hub, long wheel base on wishbone
4 degree rear toe in block
no washers under toe in block.

additional notes.
longer stub axles used in rear for more droop
60g under speedo, 100 behind servo.

[mw02veg]

Grant’s set-up from TORCH

Front:
40wt / Trish Bits 5 Hole rounded Piston / 3.5 rear Springs / No Limiters (Schumacher oil )
Middle on Tower, outside on the wishbone (s1 front shock tower=2mm lower)
5 Deg Caster Blocks, Reversed Front Arms, Front Ackerman Holes, Axle Low
outer on caster Block /50.5 front plate, 2mm Washer under ball stud
-1 deg camber
Wishbones just below level

Rear:
30wt / Trish Bits 5 Hole rounded Piston / 2.5 Springs / short ball end on shock bottom unwind by 3 turns
middle on Tower, Inner on wishbone,
Std Hubs, Medium Wheelbase, -1 deg Camber, 3 deg Toe in Bar
middle on Hub, 44mm rear Plate, 1mm Washer under ball stud - Plastic Spacer std
3 deg anti squat, standard
24 / 81 on 7.5 with 23/33 internal gears
Soft battery brace
shocks on the front
Drive shafts just below level

Trish Bits Bling Bits

7.5 Nosram Pearl 12mm rotor
Schumacher Blue Mini Spike; rear
Staggered rib cut yellow; front

[simoncrabb]

Interesting setup Grant, a few things for me to try on there.

I'm wondering what the axle low on the castor block does...

And, I didn't realise the S1 front tower was lower!

[KRob]

As requested Mikey :thumbsup:

Associated B44. Not as comprehensive as the set-ups above because it doesn't deviate too much from kit set-up :thumbsup:
(and it was the first time I'd run it - but it will be my starting set-up for the Nat at EPR coming up)

Front camber link kit
No.2 piston, 35wt oil, green spring, 1 droop limiter,
Outside hole on w/bone, inside hole on tower
Driveshafts level

Rear camber link as kit
No.1 piston, 25wt oil, green spring, 2 droop limiters
Inside hole on w/bone, inside hole on tower
Driveshafts level
Long wheelbase

Slipper set quite loose
Worn Schuey yellows all round (with the outside row cut-off the front)

Rudebits battery tray and straps.
Novak 6.5t motor geared at 21/84
Robitronic Speedstar 3.5 speedo

Had moved the rear shocks to the back of the rear w/bones but seems to make pretty much no difference at all.

[spud31]

so if its dry worn yellows are best tyre?

Anyone got a 511 setup for torch ?

thanks

spud

[KRob]

so if its dry worn yellows are best tyre?

Not quite that simple I don't think.
My car was best on yellows when the dust came up a little later in the afternoon. In the morning it was rather edgy at speed.
If I had any blues I would have tried them as I reckon they will probably work better in the morning.
From what I could see and speaking to Grant, the blues allow just a smidge of slide therefore making the car a bit easier to drive over the faster and bumpier sections where the yellows would give a bit too much side grip.

[simoncrabb]

Anyone got a 511 setup for torch ?


I tried Hupo's astro setup (http://trfracing.co.uk/photo02022010032743/1265185391.jpg) and it was generally excellent. Used blue minispikes on the rear, staggered ribs on the front (mounted wide with insert).

Excellent starting point.

[spud31]

Thanks guys

[simoncrabb]

My Durango 410R TORCH setup from Sunday 5th Sep 2010 is at the bottom of this post:

http://rclazy.com/2010/09/10/team-durango-dex-410r-short-term-review/

[wayne]

My Durango 410R TORCH setup from Sunday 5th Sep 2010 is at the bottom of this post:

http://rclazy.com/2010/09/10/team-durango-dex-410r-short-term-review/



hi n thanks ..this will help me sort mine

[MrMagoo]

Here's a link to the set up I ran last weekend (9/1/20) on the Ansmann XPro.

http://mrmagoo-rc.blogspot.com/2011/01/ansmann-xpro-setup-for-torch.html

[simoncrabb]

Another decent Durango DEX410R setup for TORCH

http://rclazy.com/blog/2011/03/21/durango-a-go-go-at-torch/

[Dudders]

Anything on the B4.1 guys :thumbsup:

[mikeyscott]

Please note the setups posted in 2010 were for the OLD track

[hazeandfizz]

I ran my Cougar at TORCH for the 1st time last weekend and ended up the highest placed Cougar. I will post a full setup when I return from holiday but will list the main points for you below.

Shocks, front. 5 hole pistons 35WT oil 4.5 spring.
Rear. 5 hole pistons 30WT oil 2.5 spring.

Tyres, stagger rib fronts. Yellow mini spike rear.
-2.0 Deg camber front and back.
Front wishbones reversed, medium wheel base setting (try running in long wheel base to start with).

As I say when I return from holiday I will post a full setup sheet.

Feel free to PM me any questions,
James.

I recently picked up a Cougar SV from the for sale section on here with the view to getting back into racing after a 14 year break after I realised TORCH was only a few miles up the road from Bishops Waltham where the Mrs lives.

Just wondering would any one be so kind as to point me in the direction of a rough set up I can put on the car before I turn up for the first time???!! Would rather concentrate on my driving and getting back into things first time back rather than messing around changing oil and pistons every round!!! :thumbsup:

[simoncrabb]

What setups are people using on the new track? Shall we get this thread lively again?

22 setup?

[racingben]

Setup is used on ansmann mad monkey. Best so far 11laps 310.5

Front tyre yellow stagger on cut down monkey wheel. No insert.
Shocks. Ansmann xpro alloy body. 2 hole piston. 20wt oil.
Spring. Xpro black(feel very similar to team c hard spring -red)
Mounting - top inner hole on tower , bottom inner hole on wishbone.
Camber -2 degrees
Top link - inner hole on tower. Outer hole on c hub.
5mm between collar and end of shock body

Rear tyre yellow minispike blue insert on STD rat rear wheels
Shocks as above 25 wt oil
Spring as above
Mounting tower inner wbone outer
Camber -2 degrees
Top link inner top outer top outside
6mm pre load on spring.

50 grams lead on servo

Basically kit settings other than shocks and weight.

[saintnitro]

Hi all

just need a little help i'm going to run my madrat this sunday at torch and need a little help with gearing

cheers Ginge

[racingben]

I run 21t pinion with the standard spur - 6.5 motor.

[saintnitro]

cheers mate

6.5:o i'm going to be running 13.5 maybe stick a 10.5 in, looks like i'm going to be at the back of the pack :woot: but never mind i'm still going to have a giggle:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ginge

[sprintir]

Hello all.
This is my first post on this site and new to RC cars and/or my 6 year old son.
A couple of weeks ago you was kind enough to let my son on the track after racing had finished, he had a great time didn't crash too much, the car is standard as it came out the box. The car had tyres issues.
My first question is can you recommend tyres ( front and back) suitable for this surface/track someone did mention Schumacher yellow or blue would these be mini spike?
my 2nd question I tried to set the car up as per the manufactures instruction but I have been told the car is not set up right (not enough toe in) I would be grateful is you can give me a rough guide of what is a good basic set up (if there is such thing a basic setup) toe-in/out camber angle, spring setting, diff , clutch etc. etc. I have seen a set up for a x-pro car but didn’t give information on toe settings
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer
Ian

[Deano577]

Hello all.
This is my first post on this site and new to RC cars and/or my 6 year old son.
A couple of weeks ago you was kind enough to let my son on the track after racing had finished, he had a great time didn't crash too much, the car is standard as it came out the box. The car had tyres issues.
My first question is can you recommend tyres ( front and back) suitable for this surface/track someone did mention Schumacher yellow or blue would these be mini spike?
my 2nd question I tried to set the r up as per the manufactures instruction but I have been told the car is not set up right (not enough toe in) I would be grateful is you can give me a rough guide of what is a good basic set up (if there is such thing a basic setup) toe-in/out camber angle, spring setting, diff , clutch etc. etc. I have seen a set up for a x-pro car but didn’t give information on toe settings
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer
Ian
Check this thred out it will explain all, mini spike yellow rear and staggered slim Schumacher front. My advise would be to get down to torch and ask people this is what I done when I started they are really helpfull and its all about trial and error!!!!!
http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81

[sprintir]

Deano thanks for advice got some Schumacher and gave it a try (should say my son) on Sunday made a big difference :thumbsup:

[jamiekerr14]

My setup from Last sunday If anyone is interested!

In the morning when it was a touch damp I ran Dboots Multibite's (B) compound on rear, then went to Schu Yellows after round 2 I think...

DEX210:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/jamiekerr14/DEX210_EditableSetupSheet-1.jpg

[markatharding]

anyone fancy sharing their set up for a sx3 please ??:confused:

[robelmes]

anyone fancy sharing their set up for a sx3 please ??:confused:

Front:
30wt AE oil, Losi Silver spring, 4 hole piston
7.5 deg front yokes
10 deg front rake
middle hole on wishbone, middle hole on shock tower
1.4 front rollbar
front track washers = 0.5mm rear, 1mm front
1mm washer under front inner ballstud
-2 camber

Rear
25wt AE oil, Losi White spring, 5 hole ghea piston
3 deg toe in
centre hole on rear hub carrier, 4mm washers under inner ballstud
Long Wheelbase
1.2 rollbar
low pivot pin
outer hole on wishbone, inner hole on shock tower
-2 camber
18mm ride height
:thumbsup:

[markatharding]

thank you very much rob shall see you down the track in a few weeks after I've got the last round of chippenham out the way :thumbsup:

[markatharding]

meant to ask what the reason for using loss springs instead the schumacher ones ?:confused:

Front:
30wt AE oil, Losi Silver spring, 4 hole piston
7.5 deg front yokes
10 deg front rake
middle hole on wishbone, middle hole on shock tower
1.4 front rollbar
front track washers = 0.5mm rear, 1mm front
1mm washer under front inner ballstud
-2 camber

Rear
25wt AE oil, Losi White spring, 5 hole ghea piston
3 deg toe in
centre hole on rear hub carrier, 4mm washers under inner ballstud
Long Wheelbase
1.2 rollbar
low pivot pin
outer hole on wishbone, inner hole on shock tower
-2 camber
18mm ride height
:thumbsup:

[robelmes]

more spring rate options and half the price!

[markatharding]

cool liking your work :thumbsup:

[shaun m]

has anyone got any set ups for a cat sx2 , on the new track ??

[chris grainger]

Hi guys

Was asked Sunday at torch about my set ups, so here is my K1 set up from Sunday just gone, and my SV2 set up from the last winter series round.

Chris

[chris grainger]

Oops here is the k1 set up

[Stuweatherman]

So who has a nitrogen pump to help build those emulsion shocks! Nothing like making things easy.

http://www.racetech.com/page/title/G3S%20Shock%20Types

[HOTSHOT III]

My setup from Last sunday If anyone is interested!

In the morning when it was a touch damp I ran Dboots Multibite's (B) compound on rear, then went to Schu Yellows after round 2 I think...

DEX210:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/jamiekerr14/DEX210_EditableSetupSheet-1.jpg

Can anyone tell me how to enlarge this photobucket image so I can read it? On my PC screen it's about 30mm x 50mm.

I tried pasting it onto a word document and enlarging it but it just came out blurred.

Thanks.

[Bernie_W]

Its big enough on my screen.

You can try pressing ctrl + together that will normally enlarge it.

but as I say when I click it, it looks fine

Bernard

[marley]

Can anyone tell me how to enlarge this photobucket image so I can read it? On my PC screen it's about 30mm x 50mm.

I tried pasting it onto a word document and enlarging it but it just came out blurred.

Thanks.

I had the same issue when trying to view this image on my iPhone but when I went to the full website and signed in I could view it in full size.

[HOTSHOT III]

Thanks for the suggestions guys but someone supplied me the link from PetitRC so now it's all printed off and legible, looking forward to actually driving the thing soon I hope...

[Yachty]

I so need to get back into this sport and join TORCH particularly after coming down at the weekend and seeing such an impressive setup.

Anyway I came across this when researching cars I think this is where I would start with a Schumacher K1 Aero setup!

http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Technical_Info/Schumacher/Current%20Cars/CAT%20K1%20Aero/Set%20Up%20Sheets/CAT_K1_AERO_TC_TORCH.pdf