Advice needed!

[Whiskers]

Hi, I am new to the sport of rc car racing and I need some advice like what are the best tyres to use on a 4 wheel drive buggy and what are the best batteries to use. Any other advice to help be become a good racer would be greatly appreaceated. (I have already got a 6.5 turn brushless motor and speed control)

[dave-p]

go to your local club they are a nice set of lads at bury , pm mattb , shanks or tyson on here .

[Si Coe]

Well tyre wise best place to start is Schumacher Yellow Minispikes. They are pretty much the standard tyre, and work well outdoors at Goshen when new, and indoors at Chadderton when worn. They are however pretty hopeless in the wet.
For wet weather most people use either Schumacher green minispikes or Ballistic Buggy green spikes.

Battery wise a single decent lipo is all you'll need. Something in the 4000mAh+ range and 25C or better discharge rating. These (http://demonpowerproducts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=46_142&products_id=4259) are quite good value for money

[madmax]

their is only 3 sets of tyres you need at bury
dry - sch minispike yellow.
wet - ballistic buggy green
indoors - sch yellow mini pin

[Lowie]

also, if you can, trim the ESC (electronic Speed controller) or throttle on your radio a bit down.
In my humble opinion, a 6.5 motor is bit "hot" to start with. You can always spice back up once you master the speed and the buggy completely.

Very often, beginning drivers loose much time, laps, ... by making too many mistakes when driving. It's better (again IMHO) to learn to drive flawless in the beginning.

[Whiskers]

Battery wise a single decent lipo is all you'll need. Something in the 4000mAh+ range and 25C or better discharge rating. These (http://demonpowerproducts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=46_142&products_id=4259) are quite good value for money

Would I need to top up the charge in that battery pack at the track or would it last all day on one charge? Because I don't have a readily available 12v power source as i'm only 15 so i don't have a car to charge it from.

[Si Coe]

Would I need to top up the charge in that battery pack at the track or would it last all day on one charge? Because I don't have a readily available 12v power source as i'm only 15 so i don't have a car to charge it from.

Thats OK, you have options there. There are a few (like 2!) plug sockets located in the cabin under the rostrum so bring a multiplier and you can use a mains charger, or if you prefer you can hook on to someones 12V as we normally have a few around. You'll probably need to use someones table to wrench on too but again that shouldn't be an issue - we are friendly enough lot. Well except for Ty who's a moody git:p

[Whiskers]

Thats OK, you have options there. There are a few (like 2!) plug sockets located in the cabin under the rostrum so bring a multiplier and you can use a mains charger, or if you prefer you can hook on to someones 12V as we normally have a few around. You'll probably need to use someones table to wrench on too but again that shouldn't be an issue - we are friendly enough lot. Well except for Ty who's a moody git:p
Right then i'll get a big extention lead, a lipo charger and that battery when I can afford it. I'll also get a folding table to wrench on. They are only 20 quid.

[mattb]

go to your local club they are a nice set of lads at bury , pm mattb , shanks or tyson on here .for the out door track we all use schumacher mini spike yellow or if its wet ballistic buggy mini spike green mate ps dont bother pm,ing shanks or tyson they are both useless LMAO:lol:

[mattb]

Right then i'll get a big extention lead, a lipo charger and that battery when I can afford it. I'll also get a folding table to wrench on. They are only 20 quid.I BRING A MASSIVE TRUCK BATTERY YOU CAN PLUG ON THAT IF YA WANT PAL

[rob m]

if i were you id get the biggest mah batts i can afford,if using lipo try to get no less then a 30c rating,as for tyers yellow minispikes with medium inserts for the dry,in the wet go for ballistic buggy greens medium inserts.send wOody a pm hel tell you whats what he's been racing at bury since year . .

[Whiskers]

if i were you id get the biggest mah batts i can afford,if using lipo try to get no less then a 30c rating,as for tyers yellow minispikes with medium inserts for the dry,in the wet go for ballistic buggy greens medium inserts.

I've just bought a new battery a ni-mh 4200mah so i'll run with that until i need a lipo.

[rob m]

go to your local club they are a nice set of lads at bury , pm mattb , shanks or tyson on here .
if you decide to pm matt b. all he will tell you is to buy a paint brush for keeping the car clean,like really clean! thats all he is good at doing! his driving is no good:woot: so he cant give any advice on that:p

[Si Coe]

You might want more than 1 NiMH pack as unlike lipos they don't really like being topped up but 4200 should give you a couple of races without even needing to recharge. Your setup will be faster with Lipos, but then again perhaps its a good thing that you are starting with NiMH's then, there is such a thing as too fast (See Johnny for details.....) especially when learning. And it will give you something to upgrade to later.

For now, if you can't make our indoor series and are stuck in Bury so can't do Roundabout in Denton, then as Rob suggested your best bet is get practising. The track at Goshen is there all year round, and the fence is quite low so go and have a go. The track markers won't be out, but you'll get the rough idea. Practise the jumps, the hairpin at the end of the straight and get a feel for your car on the surface.
Keep an eye on here because we often have practise sessions with a bunch of us (like last Saturday) so people will be around to lend a hand. Bear in mind on an unofficial practise day we won't have electricity so mains chargers won't work. Charge up before hand and run till you go flat!

[Tyson]

I've just bought a new battery a ni-mh 4200mah so i'll run with that until i need a lipo.

Just come down to the club with what ever you have pal and have a race. You dont need to get geared up to come down and race, plently of advise and different setups to look at trackside.:thumbsup:

*By the way use mattb's MASSIVE ! Battery by all means, but like Zammo used to say "JUST SAY NO" to a ride in his BIG TRUCK!!....... Nowt as queer as folk, but he is a NICE lad really:woot:

[Whiskers]

their is only 3 sets of tyres you need at bury
dry - sch minispike yellow.
wet - ballistic buggy green
indoors - sch yellow mini pin

Please can somebody post some links to where they buy their tyres and rims from. Thanks

[Tyson]

Please can somebody post some links to where they buy their tyres and rims from. Thanks

Closest model shop to you will be JE Spares based in Middleton pal, use the link at the top of the oOple page for phone no and address.
Web site has a live stock on products so you can see if they have it in stock before you go... :thumbsup:

[Si Coe]

Please can somebody post some links to where they buy their tyres and rims from. Thanks

Front wheels (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7122&category_id=1182)

Rear Wheels (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7123&category_id=1182)

(Hot Bodies so should be a direct fit on a Brama)

Tyres page is here (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.browse&category_id=1180) but they are out of stock for Schumacher Yellows.
Ballistic green fronts (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7419&category_id=1180)
Ballistic green rears (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7418&category_id=1180)

You'll also need foam inserts (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.browse&category_id=1212), medium front and rears.

[Whiskers]

Front wheels (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7122&category_id=1182)

Rear Wheels (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7123&category_id=1182)

(Hot Bodies so should be a direct fit on a Brama)

Tyres page is here (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.browse&category_id=1180) but they are out of stock for Schumacher Yellows.
Ballistic green fronts (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7419&category_id=1180)
Ballistic green rears (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7418&category_id=1180)

You'll also need foam inserts (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.browse&category_id=1212), medium front and rears.

Will those tyres need glueing to the rims if so how?

[Si Coe]

Yes.

Really, you need a proper tyre glue like this (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=885&category_id=493) . Its superglue, but very thin and runny. Fit the tyre to the wheel, then pull the sidewall on one side up slightly and add a drop of glue to the rim, before replacing the tyre. Gentle rotate the wheel and the glue should spread around the rim. Repeat on the other side of the tyre.

[Whiskers]

Yes.

Really, you need a proper tyre glue like this (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=885&category_id=493) . Its superglue, but very thin and runny. Fit the tyre to the wheel, then pull the sidewall on one side up slightly and add a drop of glue to the rim, before replacing the tyre. Gentle rotate the wheel and the glue should spread around the rim. Repeat on the other side of the tyre.

Thanks for that and those rims will fit my car.

[Si Coe]

Thanks for that and those rims will fit my car.
Yes - You want HPI, Hot Bodies (which is also HPI) or Kyosho wheels. They all use the same hex fitment. Losi, B44 and Cat wheels are different and won't fit.

[mattb]

if you decide to pm matt b. all he will tell you is to buy a paint brush for keeping the car clean,like really clean! thats all he is good at doing! his driving is no good:woot: so he cant give any advice on that:poh realy mr gob sh*t ill shut you up again on monday night lol i had a load of old lazer parts for you aswell im gonna throw them in the bin now lol

[mattb]

Just come down to the club with what ever you have pal and have a race. You dont need to get geared up to come down and race, plently of advise and different setups to look at trackside.:thumbsup:

*By the way use mattb's MASSIVE ! Battery by all means, but like Zammo used to say "JUST SAY NO" to a ride in his BIG TRUCK!!....... Nowt as queer as folk, but he is a NICE lad really:woot:you loved it in buddas truck you told me:lol:

[rob m]

oh realy mr gob sh*t ill shut you up again on monday night lol i had a load of old lazer parts for you aswell im gonna throw them in the bin now lolyour not guna take your ball home aswell are you? :lol:.ok game on 2wd remember for monday,il use the couger to give you a chance

[mattb]

your not guna take your ball home aswell are you? :lol:.ok game on 2wd remember for monday,il use the couger to give you a chanceyour gonna laugh when you see my b4 now mate i wont say any more i was only gonna race 4wd on monday i dont think there will be enough time to race and charge two cars??????????

[Tyson]

Now now boys stop swingin them handbags and lets be nice to each other:p

[Si Coe]

Just be careful! When Ty offers you his RC Screws service he isn't on about little bits of metal that hold your car together......

[Whiskers]

What is the best servo to use for the stearing or will the stock one be fine?:confused:

[mattb]

What is the best servo to use for the stearing or will the stock one be fine?:confused:get a bluebird 621mg they are about £24 i had one in my 4wd and replaced it with a £60 savox and there is no difference at all

[johnnygibbon]

so i can race 2 classes on monday. oh yeah race on. feelin greedy. b4 and bmax will be there:thumbsup:
also whiskers you can try rossendale models in rawtenstall they have some pre glued wheel sets an stuff. they will also be running a indoor club so it might be easyer for you to get there ( 5 10 min from bury) watch oople for more info .

feelin the retro vibe . project in development, still planning......:confused:

[Whiskers]

What lipo charger is the best or what charger do you use (if you would recommend it).

[Si Coe]

The most common charger is the Core UDC20 (http://www.roundabouttoys.com/store/product/13976/UDC20-Universal-Charger/) or 30 (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=8625&category_id=486). The 30 is replacing the 20 so unless its a killer deal on the 20 buy the 30.

The next most common group are IMAX chargers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IMAX-B6-7-4v-11-1v-14-8v-22-2v-LiPo-RC-Battery-Charger_W0QQitemZ180436705384QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item2a02dda068) (B5 and B6) which are basically the same as the Core UDC's internally but in a different case and available via Ebay for a lot less than a Core.

However even this cheap Fusion (http://www.roundabouttoys.com/store/product/19750/Fusion-Breeze-Plus-LX40-LiPO-Charger---Mains-and-12V/)will work OK. Its not clever, only does Lipos unlike the others (which is partly a good thing as you can never charge on the wrong mode) and at 3A isn't the fastest, but its 12V and Mains and half the price of a Core

[Whiskers]

The next most common group are IMAX chargers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IMAX-B6-7-4v-11-1v-14-8v-22-2v-LiPo-RC-Battery-Charger_W0QQitemZ180436705384QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item2a02dda068) (B5 and B6) which are basically the same as the Core UDC's internally but in a different case and available via Ebay for a lot less than a Core.

Thanks for that but i don't like the look of them ebay sellers. Are they legit?

[Si Coe]

Mostly!

Some also have shop websites too. I've used RCModelland before - they do the IMax (http://www.rcmodelland.com/index.php?p=6&id=618&new=&cat2=0&cat1=48&cat0=10&lang=en) in blue and the Mystery (http://www.rcmodelland.com/index.php?p=6&id=619&new=&cat2=0&cat1=48&cat0=10&lang=en) (same charger in red) for slightly less.

They are all 12V supply. You either need a power pack (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AC-POWER-12v-5A-Adapter-For-MYSTEKY-iMAX-B5-B6-Charger_W0QQitemZ180436412129QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item2a02d926e1) or the AC version (http://www.rcmodelland.com/index.php?p=6&id=1174&new=&cat2=0&cat1=48&cat0=10&lang=en) for mains use. You can buy those in the UK too - this Core (http://www.jespares.com/electric-models?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7239&category_id=488) one also does the B6.

[mattb]

Thanks for that but i don't like the look of them ebay sellers. Are they legit?have a look at modelsport uk they have got loads

[mattb]

Thanks for that but i don't like the look of them ebay sellers. Are they legit?
http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=30776 this is the one id pick if i was you they are a brilliant charger

[Chrislong]

Whatzat about wheels? I got 1 car set of HB wheels for sale. Anyone want them? I'll have them with me at bury on 24th.

[Whiskers]

Whatzat about wheels? I got 1 car set of HB wheels for sale. Anyone want them? I'll have them with me at bury on 24th.

What tyres are on them or are they just rims?

[Si Coe]

Its just the rims, but Chris did have some Schumacher Yellows to match them. Do you still have any?

[Chrislong]

Nah no tyres guys, all the new ones got sold and the rims are new in packet. Si, you want them? :thumbsup: